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(GoFundMe)   Fundraiser for Jeff Bauman, whose legs were blown off at Boston Marathon, has passed $300K and is aiming for $1 million   (gofundme.com) divider line 144
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2013-04-20 03:24:08 PM
Gotcha.
 
2013-04-20 03:46:55 PM
What kind of un-American biatch pays his medical bills?
 
2013-04-20 03:49:21 PM

Hobodeluxe: leevis: PanicMan: Oooooorrrrrr.......


We could just fund raise for everyone to have health care.  You know, through taxes?

Just what I want, health care brought to me by the same people who gave us social security, unnecessary wars, lax border security, the war on drugs, etc.

you'd rather get it from those who stand to make a buck by denying you coverage


one giant THIS, wtf is wrong with the brainwashed masses in this country? we might have the best medical technology, but if the cost of access is beyond reasonable then we really don't have the best.
 
2013-04-20 03:56:48 PM
why> does someone want this guy to starve to death in the street!?
 
2013-04-20 04:32:02 PM

weasil: Marshmallow Jones:
Having said that, I wish people would stop with this 'He's a True American HeroTM' shiat.    It's so farking overused that it means nothing anymore.  Everyone's a farking hero.  I heard someone calling the race officials heroes because there wasn't more loss of life...that doesnt even make any farking sense.  Stuff your farking 3rd grade platitudes, your flag waving and your farking tear-soaked tissues up your ass.  Grow the fark up.

I know others will give you shiat for saying it, but I'm with you on this. If you lose your legs trying to save someone else, that's heroic. Losing them by being the unlucky sap in the wrong place at the wrong time is not. The heroism awards go to those who step in to help, and you don't need to be an American to be a hero (Carlos Arredondo -- cowboy hat man -- was born in Costa Rica, according to Wikipedia).


Do both you morons realize the hero label isn't for losing his legs but bc upon become conscious he immediately ask for paper so while still unable to speak he could identify one of the bombers since he watched the guy drop the bag that blew off his legs?
 
2013-04-20 04:32:20 PM

Bit'O'Gristle: I've seen this pic, and it was terrible and has been seared into my brain. The image of him holding onto his thighs and obviously in shock, and his legs blown off, bloody rags, was something ill never forget. I hope that his gf remains with him, and gives him the support he needs.


And that after he gets state of the art prosthetics and starts running again he doesn't shoot her while she's cowering in the bathroom.
 
2013-04-20 04:36:03 PM

depmode98: things like this is sort of the exact reason why we should have socialized medicine.


That's what crowdfunding sites are for.  Free market charity at its finest.  If society wants you to get better, it will help you.
 
2013-04-20 04:40:10 PM

ladyfortuna: I'm going to pay forward the TF someone gave me the other night for this, but I have an honest question - would putting it in the name of my business make me look like a tool? I wouldn't be doing it for the tax write off or anything, it's more for accounting purposes and to show that a business (owner) cares...


"Do good by stealth, and blush to find it fame." Samuel Coleridge.
 
2013-04-20 04:40:18 PM

HoratioGates: Bit'O'Gristle: I've seen this pic, and it was terrible and has been seared into my brain. The image of him holding onto his thighs and obviously in shock, and his legs blown off, bloody rags, was something ill never forget. I hope that his gf remains with him, and gives him the support he needs.

And that after he gets state of the art prosthetics and starts running again he doesn't shoot her while she's cowering in the bathroom.


Oscar is innocent until proven guilty even in SA.
 
2013-04-20 04:42:54 PM

itsaidwhat: PanicMan: Oooooorrrrrr.......


We could just fund raise for everyone to have health care.  You know, through taxes?

Govt healthcare = Waste. Inefficiency. Overspending. Ineffective.

One pair of Dr Scholls-like Medicaid-purchased shoes for my dad: $450. Must be the golden fleeced linings. Thank goodness they also provided a $800 mil-spec-shoe horn.


The cost would come down if everyone was required to wear them.
 
2013-04-20 04:44:14 PM

a_real_human_being: bikerbob59: depmode98: things like this is sort of the exact reason why we should have socialized medicine.

Citation needed.

Scandinavia.


Ha - I've lived in Sweden and almost everyone I knew had supplemental coverage with out o pocket premiums. And that is after being taxed to death. So no.
 
2013-04-20 04:45:17 PM

HoratioGates: shoot her while she's cowering in the bathroom.


OK, I completely give up.

dafuq did I just read?
 
2013-04-20 04:47:32 PM

Madame Ovary: Fano: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: How about the other people that lost limbs?

They bought a ticket, they knew what they were getting into.

Can they sue the Boston Marathon organizers, the city of Boston...someone? I'm sorry, in this case, it seems someone should be responsible for those medical costs.


That would be Mr. Bauman.
 
2013-04-20 04:51:37 PM

Amberleia: So, knowing Jeff, I have to say he's amazing and I wish him all the best in his recovery and I know all of the donations will go a long way in making sure he gets all of the follow-up care he needs.

However, not to take away from Jeff's obvious need for assistance with medical bills, but his friend, Michelle Mahoney, who was standing next to him, is in need of assistance too.  She's the girl in the glasses standing next to him on his gofundme page, and is an upbeat and awesome person who always goes out of her way to help others.  While Jeff will undoubtedly get hundreds of thousands more in donations, Michelle thus far has received less than $15K. While her legs were not amputated, they were shattered, and one of her feet was almost completely severed. They aren't sure, the last I heard, if the re-attachment is going to be successful or not. She's going to need extensive therapy.  It would really help her out a lot if Fark got behind her and got information out about her gofundme site to help bring in donations for her care.

http://www.gofundme.com/theMRMfund


She's raised over $13K of her $!5k goal in 2 days.
 
2013-04-20 04:56:20 PM
I'm gratified to see kindness demonstrated so abundantly.  I'm sure every donor feels better.  The fearful over-analysis of opportunities to be kind is a source of suffering.
 
2013-04-20 05:01:22 PM
Voluntarily donating your own money is truly virtuous.
 
2013-04-20 05:21:21 PM

Giant Clown Shoe: weasil: Marshmallow Jones:
Having said that, I wish people would stop with this 'He's a True American HeroTM' shiat.    It's so farking overused that it means nothing anymore.  Everyone's a farking hero.  I heard someone calling the race officials heroes because there wasn't more loss of life...that doesnt even make any farking sense.  Stuff your farking 3rd grade platitudes, your flag waving and your farking tear-soaked tissues up your ass.  Grow the fark up.

I know others will give you shiat for saying it, but I'm with you on this. If you lose your legs trying to save someone else, that's heroic. Losing them by being the unlucky sap in the wrong place at the wrong time is not. The heroism awards go to those who step in to help, and you don't need to be an American to be a hero (Carlos Arredondo -- cowboy hat man -- was born in Costa Rica, according to Wikipedia).

Do both you morons realize the hero label isn't for losing his legs but bc upon become conscious he immediately ask for paper so while still unable to speak he could identify one of the bombers since he watched the guy drop the bag that blew off his legs?


I'll let you have "morons" for free, since I know your just an ignorant ass-hat, but I still hold with MJ here: the "hero" label is way overused, and gets cheapened when used in this way. Identifying your attacker doesn't qualify as heroic, sorry. Helpful, yes. Heroic, not exactly.

Not being in Boston, I'm having difficulty getting straight news on this, but it sounded like the cops came across the suspects in a robbery, and it all went to hell in a handbasket from there. So, would his identification of them even have been necessary?

/We could devolve into more name-calling, or you could realize we are a) on Fark and b) part of a world where people get to have their own opinions
//Myself, I agree to disagree
 
2013-04-20 05:24:34 PM

Kittypie070: why> does someone want this guy to starve to death in the street!?


That guy is just trying too hard. Kudos to you for not replying to him directly (it only confuses them in the long-run).
 
2013-04-20 05:36:30 PM

a_real_human_being: jack21221: Having insurance is no panacea. My sister had insurance when she was shot in the neck, but she still had $80,000 in medical bills. She otherwise would have owed 1.1 million.

There is literally zero difference to her whether she owes 80k or 1100k. She will never pay either amount back.

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Oh my god. How does that happen? If they covered 1.03 million, why would they leave 80k for her? And where the fark does 1.1 million come from?

I think it's a shame that in the U.S. the overwhelming support for strangers who, through no fault of their own, have come on hard times (in instances like this) doesn't persist outside of these dramatic crises. That being said, you can even see the mindset of blaming the victim in situations like these, where people will say he should have known it was a bomb and ran away, etc.


I really don't know the gory details about the insurance policy. The high dollar amount comes from the fact that the bullet hit her spinal cord, so she was in the ICU for a month, and then in inpatient rehab for over a month. They actually tried denying her coverage altogether, because a couple months prior she was late on a payment. Her credit card was stolen, so she had to miss a month and make a double payment once all that was cleared up. They even sent a letter stating that everything was fine and her policy was up to date. So, at a time less than 24 hours after she was shot, and we didn't know if she was going to live or die, my mother had to go home and find that letter they sent that stated the policy was up to date, and fax it over to the insurance company.

Since my sister is a high level quadriplegic, she cannot work, and is just on social security disability. The hospital sued my sister anyway, and her legal advice was to ignore it, because they can't garnish social security disability payments.

The problem is what happens years down the line. My sister's old wheelchair van was starting to fall apart. It was a cheap one to begin with, but it was completely undriveable at one point. We had to throw a fundraiser for her to buy her a new van. I'm sure it's not the last fundraiser we'll need to have for her.

I suspect these bombing victims are going to have a lot of issues like this down the road. It's not enough to pay their medical bills now. They are going to have related costs for the rest of their lives.
 
2013-04-20 05:55:17 PM

a_real_human_being: jack21221: Having insurance is no panacea. My sister had insurance when she was shot in the neck, but she still had $80,000 in medical bills. She otherwise would have owed 1.1 million.

There is literally zero difference to her whether she owes 80k or 1100k. She will never pay either amount back.

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Oh my god. How does that happen? If they covered 1.03 million, why would they leave 80k for her? And where the fark does 1.1 million come from?

I think it's a shame that in the U.S. the overwhelming support for strangers who, through no fault of their own, have come on hard times (in instances like this) doesn't persist outside of these dramatic crises. That being said, you can even see the mindset of blaming the victim in situations like these, where people will say he should have known it was a bomb and ran away, etc.




Because fark you, thats why.
 
2013-04-20 06:08:20 PM

Molavian: Fark: Where everything turns into partisan douchebaggery.


Yeah, this thread is shiat. Way to go, Farkers.
 
2013-04-20 06:21:41 PM

Madame Ovary: Can they sue the Boston Marathon organizers, the city of Boston...someone? I'm sorry, in this case, it seems someone should be responsible for those medical costs.


How about the sacks of shiat (or their estates) whose purposely-placed explosive devices caused all the injuries in the first place?

/yeah, I know, good luck with that, etc....
 
2013-04-20 07:02:00 PM
Could he and the others not recoup some of the medical bills in a civil suit against the bombers?

From what I understand, they owned a sweet green Honda Civic and designer baseball caps, which smells like $$$ to me.
 
2013-04-20 07:17:59 PM
relcec:  he was voluntarily uninsured. he lives in a place called Massachusetts where if you can not afford insurance it is provided for you.
he's simply an idiot who refused to pay a few bucks a day to insure against an unlikely but catastrophic event.
he could be the poster boy for reckless disregard for others.
the system didn't fail him, he failed the community.

he lived in massachussetttes. he wasn't uninsured because he worked at a Costco, he was uninsured because he actively avoided getting it.


You might want to read your insurance policy Mr. Smug. Most policies have a clause specifying that injuries due to war or acts of terrorism are NOT COVERED. So having health insurance wouldn't have helped him.

I would imagine that in this case the insurance companies will cover the costs because it's a lot cheaper than the bad publicity they would get for not covering people.
 
2013-04-20 07:35:17 PM

BarkingUnicorn: ladyfortuna: I'm going to pay forward the TF someone gave me the other night for this, but I have an honest question - would putting it in the name of my business make me look like a tool? I wouldn't be doing it for the tax write off or anything, it's more for accounting purposes and to show that a business (owner) cares...

"Do good by stealth, and blush to find it fame." Samuel Coleridge.


Thank you for answering, I was thinking no one would.
 
2013-04-20 07:49:56 PM

Phins: relcec:  he was voluntarily uninsured. he lives in a place called Massachusetts where if you can not afford insurance it is provided for you.
he's simply an idiot who refused to pay a few bucks a day to insure against an unlikely but catastrophic event.
he could be the poster boy for reckless disregard for others.
the system didn't fail him, he failed the community.

he lived in massachussetttes. he wasn't uninsured because he worked at a Costco, he was uninsured because he actively avoided getting it.

You might want to read your insurance policy Mr. Smug. Most policies have a clause specifying that injuries due to war or acts of terrorism are NOT COVERED. So having health insurance wouldn't have helped him.

I would imagine that in this case the insurance companies will cover the costs because it's a lot cheaper than the bad publicity they would get for not covering people.


What does an act of war or terrorism have to do with a crime?
 
2013-04-20 08:23:45 PM
Apik0r0s:  What does an act of war or terrorism have to do with a crime?

First, there are plenty of companies that will not cover injuries to a crime victim, because the injuries are the result of an intentional action (even though it wasn't the victim's intentional action). They'll tell you to file with the perpetrator's insurance or a victim compensation fund.

The insurance company gets to decide what they call it. The police and government might call it a crime, but they can still decide that they see it as an act of terrorism and it's not covered.

Your policy doesn't cover experimental treatments or any health care that you might need as a result of experimental treatments and they decide what qualifies as experimental. And if it's an expensive treatment, it will remain "experimental" for a long, long time.
 
2013-04-20 08:35:17 PM

ladyfortuna: BarkingUnicorn: ladyfortuna: I'm going to pay forward the TF someone gave me the other night for this, but I have an honest question - would putting it in the name of my business make me look like a tool? I wouldn't be doing it for the tax write off or anything, it's more for accounting purposes and to show that a business (owner) cares...

"Do good by stealth, and blush to find it fame." Samuel Coleridge.

Thank you for answering, I was thinking no one would.


If you just do what feels good and keep quiet about it, you will not suffer the insufferability of being told you could have done it better. :-)
 
2013-04-20 09:08:36 PM
Well said.
 
2013-04-20 10:19:40 PM
DHS has been spouting off about this "See Something, Say Something" campaign for a few years.  Why didn't anyone say anything when they saw some guy drop a bag and walk off?  I'm sure the bombers didn't casually drop the bags, but set them down with a purpose.  If the bomber made eye contact with this victim, wouldn't that have added to the weirdness of the act?  Hindsight is 20/20 and we weren't there, and this guy was probably really excited to see his girlfriend cross the finish line standing with their friends cheering for her.  I can't imagine that surreal roller coaster of emotions going from excitement, to panic and fear, to a realization of what happened...all within seconds.

I can't imagine surviving something like this.  He certainly has a tough road ahead of him.  It's just pathetic that medical bills have to even be an issue.  We're better than this America.  Only here can a person get their legs blown off while just minding their own business, and have to worry about the cost of getting better.
 
2013-04-20 11:29:10 PM

Phins: You might want to read your insurance policy Mr. Smug. Most policies have a clause specifying that injuries due to war or acts of terrorism are NOT COVERED.


Phins: First, there are plenty of companies that will not cover injuries to a crime victim, because the injuries are the result of an intentional action (even though it wasn't the victim's intentional action). They'll tell you to file with the perpetrator's insurance or a victim compensation fund.

The insurance company gets to decide what they call it. The police and government might call it a crime, but they can still decide that they see it as an act of terrorism and it's not covered.

Your policy doesn't cover experimental treatments or any health care that you might need as a result of experimental treatments and they decide what qualifies as experimental. And if it's an expensive treatment, it will remain "experimental" for a long, long time.


To both of these notions... I can only... it's just...

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EmmaLou: He certainly has a tough road ahead of him.  It's just pathetic that medical bills have to even be an issue.  We're better than this America.  Only here can a person get their legs blown off while just minding their own business, and have to worry about the cost of getting better.


I'm not sure if you're the only Western country where that would be an issue (an interesting question). Nevertheless, I certainly agree with your sentiment.
 
2013-04-21 12:22:27 AM
On 9/11, the victims families got millions despite the only expenses being funerals and the government having allegedly done nothing wrong. Meanwhile, the 9/11 responders, so many of which are now gravely ill from breathing asbestos and other toxins, have huge medical bills and got nothing from the government, which lied to them that the air was safe. In WWII, Korea, Vietnam, your child was drafted, thrown in harm's way and if he died, your compensation was a burial plot a tombstone and a flag. It will be interesting to see how the government responds to any calls for compensation on this Boston bombing.
 
2013-04-21 12:36:22 AM
Maybe a national lottery could create a fund for such occasions.  These days, they seem to arise as often as the needs for education and national parks.
 
2013-04-21 02:04:00 AM
I understand those thinking that the word hero is overused, but he isn't being called a superhero, just a hero. Hero: a person of distinguished courage or ability. Tons of people are heroes every day. Not let's-make-a-movie-about-that-guy-because-his-whole-life's-story-is-am azing heroes, but whoa-he-did-something-that-most-people-in-his-situation-couldn't-have- done heroes. This guy woke up in a hospital, with no legs, and instead of going all "DAFuq! My legs!" he was like "YO I SAW THE DUDE." The fact that he had the ability to wake up and not be immediately in shock or overcome with pain/meds, and gathered the clarity of mind to make his message known when he couldn't speak--that makes him a hero in my book when it comes to this situation.

And to people who think he should have known something was up with the backpack, I'm gonna out myself as naive here because if I saw that good-looking (to me) and not suspicious-looking (again, to me) young (unfortunately, to me too) kid put a giant-ass backpack down, I would probably think something along the lines of "oh, that cute kid is kind of a douche and wants to save that spot with his giant-ass bagso he can come back in a minute and watch the runners. Must be going to get a coffee or something. I bet he has a crapload of homework to do after he watches the run. Probably goes to MIT. And I bet his friends are right around here so they'll make sure nobody steals it."
Or not think anything of it because I'm focusing on my friends in the race and am not on any kind of heightened alert just having fun and feeling the great energy of the crowd.

In hindsight, sure I could say "hey that seems suspicious" but a 20-looking kid with with a big backpack just screams MIT or Harvard or Northeastern to me, not terrorist bomber-guy. And those things hurt your back.

Guns have been on everyone's mind recently, not bombs. So nobody noticed, and I don't see how anyone can blame them. But, people always like to think they'd have been smarter/faster/better/more intuitive in any bad situation than the people who were there.
 
2013-04-21 04:16:09 AM
The fact he needs a fundraiser to pay for his legs being blown off makes me rage. This guy should be having a 1,000,400 fundraiser for a hotel, booze and two chicks at the same time.

America absolutely doesn't care about individual people if you get a bill for terrorist related medical help. Fundraiser or not...
 
2013-04-21 05:24:12 AM
I'd warn everyone against feeling smug that you have insurance. Insurance companies are pretty adept at having exemptions, since not having to pay helps their bottom line, which is what they are all about after all. They wouldn't make profits if they paid all the bills from all the claims. Instead they pay lawyers to write some legitimate way of weaselling out of paying claims into their contracts.
 
2013-04-21 09:41:54 AM

Nidiot: I'd warn everyone against feeling smug that you have insurance. Insurance companies are pretty adept at having exemptions, since not having to pay helps their bottom line, which is what they are all about after all. They wouldn't make profits if they paid all the bills from all the claims. Instead they pay lawyers to write some legitimate way of weaselling out of paying claims into their contracts.


Insurance companies SUCK. Doesn't matter what type--car, home, health, etc. They can all EAGBOD.
 
2013-04-21 10:43:38 AM

ficklefkrfark: relcec: a_real_human_being: A guy gets his legs blown off in a cowardly terrorist attack... and has to worry about paying the medical bills.

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/what I find really sad about the story
//'Murica!

he was voluntarily uninsured. he lives in a place called Massachusetts where if you can not afford insurance it is provided for you.
he's simply an idiot who refused to pay a few bucks a day to insure against an unlikely but catastrophic event.
he could be the poster boy for reckless disregard for others.
the system didn't fail him, he failed the community.

Yo bootstrap! He's from New Hampshire...therefore not eligible for the mass health care. But you obviously already knew that, as you seem like the type that thinks they know everything.

/self righteous pig farker


he's from mass, he works across state lines because they have no sales tax there. he's eligible for reasonable health insurance. it's actually mandated. in fact he probably has been paying a fine as pittance for avoiding procuring it.
/self righteous moron


But now, news has surfaced that the 27-year-old is without health insurance to pay for his care, an online funding campaign has been set up in his honor. According to
http://mashable.com/2013/04/19/boston-bomb-jeff-bauman-donate/


Phins: First, there are plenty of companies that will not cover injuries to a crime victim, because the injuries are the result of an intentional action (even though it wasn't the victim's intentional action). They'll tell you to file with the perpetrator's insurance or a victim compensation fund.


this is straight up nonsense. there's no f*cking exception for victims of crime for health insurance. you are a complete idiot.
 
2013-04-21 10:45:06 AM
repentance
 
2013-04-21 10:50:31 AM
and why on earth do you think there is an exception for medical claims incurred do to the commission of a crime? I know you've never heard of this is your entire life, why would you walk around hoping against reason that such a weird exception exists? are you thinking of a life insurance policy that would deny benefits for  a non accidental death? it has absolutely farking nothing to do with health insurance. I can't even fathom how many of you farkers manage to navigate through the world on a daily basis when you assume you know so much and are instead some of the dumbest f*cks on the planet.
 
2013-04-21 12:22:32 PM

trappedspirit: depmode98: things like this is sort of the exact reason why we should have socialized medicine.

Then the terrorists would have won.


Well it's a moral hazard isn't it? Terrorists blow people up, and because everybody is insured, they're all going to get better - free of charge! We can't have that - it would mean that terrorists could go on and on blowing people up. Without repercussion.
 
2013-04-21 02:24:15 PM

Phins: First, there are plenty of companies that will not cover injuries to a crime victim, because the injuries are the result of an intentional action (even though it wasn't the victim's intentional action). They'll tell you to file with the perpetrator's insurance or a victim compensation fund.


I'd be interested in an example of that.  Should be easy to find but I'm coming up empty.  What really happens is that the perp's insurance denies a claim because it doesn't cover liabilities incurred while committing a crime.
 
2013-04-21 07:55:54 PM

Chach: Molavian: Fark: Where everything turns into partisan douchebaggery.

Yeah, this thread is shiat. Way to go, Farkers.


I thought I was dick enough with the Airplane quote. Who knew that would be one of the least offensive things said?
 
2013-04-21 08:12:14 PM

relcec: and why on earth do you think there is an exception for medical claims incurred do to the commission of a crime? I know you've never heard of this is your entire life, why would you walk around hoping against reason that such a weird exception exists? are you thinking of a life insurance policy that would deny benefits for  a non accidental death? it has absolutely farking nothing to do with health insurance. I can't even fathom how many of you farkers manage to navigate through the world on a daily basis when you assume you know so much and are instead some of the dumbest f*cks on the planet.


And that's why I buy my insurance from Corleone, Inc. My policy includes the following clause: "We are a superstitious company. And if some unlucky accident should befall our client, if he should be shot in the head by a police officer, or if should hang himself in his jail cell, or if he's struck by a bolt of lightning... *then we are going to blame some people and pay out restitution generously and punishment gratuitously for any causative factors, real or imagined."
 
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