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(Den Of Geek)   The Doctor and Clara are going ghost hunting, and Bonnie Hammer finally thinks Doctor Who is a worthwhile show and is cursing herself for taking it off of Siffy's schedule. It's Doctor Who: 'Hide', 8 PM on BBC America   (denofgeek.com) divider line 124
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2013-04-20 09:20:53 AM  
Is Clara an actual character yet or is she still just a macguffin?
 
2013-04-20 10:15:02 AM  
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2013-04-20 01:33:31 PM  

unlikely: Is Clara an actual character yet or is she still just a macguffin?


Not yet and not yet. She was a far better character in the Christmas special and the last season premiere, but so far she's been... well. Not much more than eye candy, really. She hasn't stood out in this season much at all except to look cute.

She hasn't been much of a macguffin so far this season. Looked like it was going to be that way in the premiere, but then she's settled back into just a plain old Companion. This is probably going to change, if the previews are anything to go by.

All in all, this season has been rather disappointing so far. The good news is that it probably can only go up.
 
2013-04-20 01:41:02 PM  

Nefarious: [i189.photobucket.com image 457x236]


Puppet show?

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2013-04-20 02:07:50 PM  

Uisce Beatha: Nefarious: [i189.photobucket.com image 457x236]

Puppet show?

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Never forget.  Bonnie Hammer cancelled it twice.
 
2013-04-20 02:11:24 PM  
www.yourprops.com

shrug, I don;t like Dr Who, but evidently it's about a time traveling Doc and a woman named Clara.
 
2013-04-20 02:47:54 PM  
A much better episode than the last two. Very spooky. And again with the "the Tardis doesn't like me" angle. Though the Tardis did seem to change her mind to save the Doctor, it could be she has reservations about who/what Clara is.
 
2013-04-20 03:21:46 PM  
Bonnie Hammer's dead to me.
 
2013-04-20 03:55:37 PM  

Flint Ironstag: A much better episode than the last two. Very spooky. And again with the "the Tardis doesn't like me" angle. Though the Tardis did seem to change her mind to save the Doctor, it could be she has reservations about who/what Clara is.


Hell I hope it's better. the submarine one looked like an expensive episode to make with all those sets and didn't deliver any real bang for its buck.
The rings of whatever episode looked like an expensive episode to make with all those sets and didn't deliver any real bang for its buck.
The Bells of St John was just sort of stupid, but fun. I liked the antigravity motorcycle bit.

Clara was much more fun in The Snowmen and Asylum. This new one is kinda ... uhhhhhh... well she's pretty.
I'm sure the whole thing is some sort of trap for the Doctor.

/I hope the final episode isn't some bullshiat. Every Moffat season has had this "something big will happen at the end of the season" and then the last episode is gibberish ("The Wedding of River Song") or doesn't make any sense whatsoever (how the Doctor gets out of the Pandorica to rescue himself is a paradox, and somehow blows up the universe except earth?). Even Jesus Doctor 10 was better than that.
 
2013-04-20 05:24:24 PM  
God I hate her more than ever now....11th most disgusting thing ever indeed........
 
2013-04-20 06:02:48 PM  
BEst episode in quite some time.
 
2013-04-20 07:25:40 PM  

MadSkillz: Flint Ironstag: A much better episode than the last two. Very spooky. And again with the "the Tardis doesn't like me" angle. Though the Tardis did seem to change her mind to save the Doctor, it could be she has reservations about who/what Clara is.

Hell I hope it's better. the submarine one looked like an expensive episode to make with all those sets and didn't deliver any real bang for its buck.
The rings of whatever episode looked like an expensive episode to make with all those sets and didn't deliver any real bang for its buck.
The Bells of St John was just sort of stupid, but fun. I liked the antigravity motorcycle bit.

Clara was much more fun in The Snowmen and Asylum. This new one is kinda ... uhhhhhh... well she's pretty.
I'm sure the whole thing is some sort of trap for the Doctor.

/I hope the final episode isn't some bullshiat. Every Moffat season has had this "something big will happen at the end of the season" and then the last episode is gibberish ("The Wedding of River Song") or doesn't make any sense whatsoever (how the Doctor gets out of the Pandorica to rescue himself is a paradox, and somehow blows up the universe except earth?). Even Jesus Doctor 10 was better than that.




Wedding of River Song was brilliant, I've seen no weakness there- His escape from Pandorica is easy to explain: Amy was the anchor of reality because she lived with the crack energy bleeding. The Doctor had to seal the rift from the other side- but implanted a memory of him in Amy. As long as there was a memory, it could be brought back. (Set up when Rory was "killed")

On an interesting note, when she was interviewed for the Nerdist Podcast, Coleman said the original plan was to have the Victorian version to travel with the doctor.

So far, I've been enjoying this season, just the doctor and the companion getting into trouble. Won't see latest one till later tonight when I tunes real eases it.
 
2013-04-20 07:34:05 PM  
This was a much better episode than they have been lately, and I usually loathe the haunted house episodes. Even so, this still felt like they wrote it for an old 4-part serial, then trimmed it back down to fit within its timeslot. As a result, ghost-girl's reveal falls flat in a kind of stupid way. And do they just leave her there?
 
2013-04-20 07:41:52 PM  
To me, it seemed like they realized the episode was running short and there was no bad guy, so hey, let's add a misunderstood monster!  Take out the monster and it would still have been a good story and there would have been more room for character development, especially for the lost time traveler.

Still, it was spooky, had great acting and great character moments. It's my favorite of the season, so far.

/whiskey is NOT disgusting!
 
2013-04-20 07:45:14 PM  

melewen: Take out the monster and it would still have been a good story and there would have been more room for character development, especially for the lost time traveler.


Storywise, the monster was weak. Visually, it was incredible, at least until the final close-up. Such wonderfully creepy movement. The monster could have added tension. Heck, rewrite it so that the monster was a sort of timeline antibody thing- not evil, just trying to keep the universe tidy, have the destruction of the pocket universe return it to its alterself in the real universe, cut the whole "love" bit, and voila- the episode is stronger.
 
2013-04-20 07:56:50 PM  

Nefarious: [i189.photobucket.com image 457x236]


What is that, some kind of animatronic catcher's mitt?
 
2013-04-20 07:57:20 PM  

t3knomanser: Heck, rewrite it so that the monster was a sort of timeline antibody thing- not evil, just trying to keep the universe tidy, have the destruction of the pocket universe return it to its alterself in the real universe, cut the whole "love" bit, and voila- the episode is stronger.


That would have been so much better.
 
2013-04-20 07:59:55 PM  

melewen: t3knomanser: Heck, rewrite it so that the monster was a sort of timeline antibody thing- not evil, just trying to keep the universe tidy, have the destruction of the pocket universe return it to its alterself in the real universe, cut the whole "love" bit, and voila- the episode is stronger.

That would have been so much better.


Oddly enough, it seems that most people really don't like the whole "Love conquers all" thing that's been running through the Moffat years.

/remember, kids, love for Stormageddon will magically reverse a mind and emotion wipe.
 
2013-04-20 08:02:53 PM  
I rather liked this episode.  The characters of Ex-Badass Researcher and Empath Girl were rather undeveloped (as evident to the fact that I watched it two hours ago and couldn't remember their names to save my life), which I thought was a bit of a shame.  The time was, however, not entirely wasted with the development of wibbly-wobbly technobabble (that I liked) and a little of "oh right, the tardis is actually alive AND intelligent, I forgot" (which I loved).  The episode confirmed my guess that the whole trip was the Doctor researching Clara, and the Tardis actually speaking directly to her (something that she's never even done with the Doctor, not intentionally) is certainly an interesting development.

I think that the next episode is going to be a highlight one, because I've been waiting years and years for more material inside of the Tardis.
 
2013-04-20 08:04:14 PM  

OniExpress: I rather liked this episode.  The characters of Ex-Badass Researcher and Empath Girl were rather undeveloped (as evident to the fact that I watched it two hours ago and couldn't remember their names to save my life), which I thought was a bit of a shame.  The time was, however, not entirely wasted with the development of wibbly-wobbly technobabble (that I liked) and a little of "oh right, the tardis is actually alive AND intelligent, I forgot" (which I loved).  The episode confirmed my guess that the whole trip was the Doctor researching Clara, and the Tardis actually speaking directly to her (something that she's never even done with the Doctor, not intentionally) is certainly an interesting development.

I think that the next episode is going to be a highlight one, because I've been waiting years and years for more material inside of the Tardis.


Eww yeah, all that icky  "love" stuff.  I hear they even have girls and kissing on the show now. Gross!
 
2013-04-20 08:06:16 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: it seems that most people really don't like the whole "Love conquers all" thing that's been running through the Moffat years.


It's such a tired cliche. And in this case, it was wedged into the monsters for no good reason. The romantic subplot in this episode was fine, and even felt somewhat believable. But slapping the same pattern on the monsters was just... ugh.
 
2013-04-20 08:07:29 PM  

Flint Ironstag: A much better episode than the last two. Very spooky. And again with the "the Tardis doesn't like me" angle. Though the Tardis did seem to change her mind to save the Doctor, it could be she has reservations about who/what Clara is.


Screenshot from "The Rings of Akenhaten

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1) It's a coincidence of camera angle and wardrobe and means nothing
2) SM is having a laugh
3) ??
 
2013-04-20 08:11:46 PM  

Snapper Carr: It's a coincidence of camera angle and wardrobe and means nothing


I used to have a sense that the details mattered in the Moffat era. Then I learned better.
 
2013-04-20 08:12:18 PM  

Snapper Carr: 2) SM is having a laugh


That one.
 
2013-04-20 08:15:44 PM  

t3knomanser: Snapper Carr: It's a coincidence of camera angle and wardrobe and means nothing

I used to have a sense that the details mattered in the Moffat era. Then I learned better.


People seem to be desperate for there to be some big, deeper meaning behind everything in the Moffat era.

What, "Movie Poster Ideas" aren't enough?
 
2013-04-20 08:22:47 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: t3knomanser: Snapper Carr: It's a coincidence of camera angle and wardrobe and means nothing

I used to have a sense that the details mattered in the Moffat era. Then I learned better.

People seem to be desperate for there to be some big, deeper meaning behind everything in the Moffat era.

What, "Movie Poster Ideas" aren't enough?


He does do plots where little details from previous episodes come into play, so when people catch on to that, they start guessing at the meaning of every detail that strikes them as suspicious to try and unravel the whole thing. Of course, most of them are red herrings Moffat throws in to amuse himself and drive the fans bananas, while he hides the real stuff in plain sight.
 
2013-04-20 08:35:07 PM  
Bonnie Hammer is evil and stupidity incarnate.
 
2013-04-20 08:58:59 PM  
Who the fark is Bonnie Hammer and what is Siffy and why should I give a rat's ass?
 
2013-04-20 09:04:59 PM  
Ah, the blue crystal from Metebelis III... the reason for the Doctor's regeneration from 3 to 4.
 
2013-04-20 09:06:04 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: Who the fark is Bonnie Hammer and what is Siffy and why should I give a rat's ass?


Bonnie Hammer is the reason The SciFi Channel became SyFy and started showing Wrestling and really bad disaster movies.

Of course BBCA shows Dr. Who, ST:TNG, and Battlestar Galactica, so that's at least 3x as much SF as SyFy.
 
2013-04-20 09:09:22 PM  
Well, clearly the power of love is the overarching theme for this season.
 
2013-04-20 09:11:20 PM  

rynthetyn: Well, clearly the power of love is the overarching theme for this season.


I hear that the power of love is a curious thing
 
2013-04-20 09:20:09 PM  

Old enough to know better: Eww yeah, all that icky  "love" stuff.  I hear they even have girls and kissing on the show now. Gross!


Wrong quote there, Sparky.
 
2013-04-20 09:20:52 PM  

technomuse: Satanic_Hamster: Who the fark is Bonnie Hammer and what is Siffy and why should I give a rat's ass?

Bonnie Hammer is the reason The SciFi Channel became SyFy and started showing Wrestling and really bad disaster movies.

Of course BBCA shows Dr. Who, ST:TNG, and Battlestar Galactica, so that's at least 3x as much SF as SyFy.


However, it is much less BBC than they should be showing.
 
2013-04-20 09:23:55 PM  
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2013-04-20 09:27:08 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: technomuse: Satanic_Hamster: Who the fark is Bonnie Hammer and what is Siffy and why should I give a rat's ass?

Bonnie Hammer is the reason The SciFi Channel became SyFy and started showing Wrestling and really bad disaster movies.

Of course BBCA shows Dr. Who, ST:TNG, and Battlestar Galactica, so that's at least 3x as much SF as SyFy.

However, it is much less BBC than they should be showing.


BBC America have a problem. The BBC is not allowed to use any British licence fee money on overseas service, so BBCA has to be self financing. They can't even get BBC shows cheap. And lots of BBC stuff is not made by the BBC but by indie production companies who own the rights, and they can choose to sell to whoever will give them the best price. Great BBC shows like Sherlock, Life On Mars, Merlin, QI, HIGNFY are all made by indie production companies. The BBC doesn't own them.
 
2013-04-20 09:28:56 PM  
Speaking of Siffy: did anyone watch "Defiance"? The reviews were poor but I thought it was OK. I see potential there. And hopefully since they've got a videogame tied to it they might not be so quick to cancel it if the ratings aren't spectacular.
 
2013-04-20 09:30:35 PM  

clintster: [i107.photobucket.com image 600x676]


Earlier in the thread when serial_crusher beat you to it.
 
2013-04-20 09:35:32 PM  

Flint Ironstag: so BBCA has to be self financing


Speaking of BBCA, has anybody else been catching "Orphan Black"? It's been showing some promise.
 
2013-04-20 09:37:12 PM  

t3knomanser: Flint Ironstag: so BBCA has to be self financing

Speaking of BBCA, has anybody else been catching "Orphan Black"? It's been showing some promise.


Yes, there is potential there, I'm enjoying it so far.
 
2013-04-20 09:39:34 PM  

Nefarious: Yes, there is potential there, I'm enjoying it so far.


The lead actress does an amazing job. Her German accent was a little goofy, but I  never get the feeling that all of the clones are actually the same person. They all feel convincingly different. That's a pretty amazing feat.
 
2013-04-20 09:40:27 PM  

t3knomanser: Flint Ironstag: so BBCA has to be self financing

Speaking of BBCA, has anybody else been catching "Orphan Black"? It's been showing some promise.


Y'know, I just don't trust shows from BBC America yet, considering how they've traditionally treated Doctor Who.

Plus, it's BBC America. Whenever America sticks their nose into BBC shows, bad things happen.

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sciencefiction.com

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L4dJ8n64HE
 
2013-04-20 09:42:23 PM  
Haven't seen the episode yet and I scrolled down this thread quick to avoid any spoilers, but this came to mind:

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2013-04-20 09:43:40 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: t3knomanser: Flint Ironstag: so BBCA has to be self financing

Speaking of BBCA, has anybody else been catching "Orphan Black"? It's been showing some promise.

Y'know, I just don't trust shows from BBC America yet, considering how they've traditionally treated Doctor Who.

Plus, it's BBC America. Whenever America sticks their nose into BBC shows, bad things happen.





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L4dJ8n64HE


Can we add Top Gear America to that list, too?
 
2013-04-20 09:46:38 PM  

technomuse: FirstNationalBastard: t3knomanser: Flint Ironstag: so BBCA has to be self financing

Speaking of BBCA, has anybody else been catching "Orphan Black"? It's been showing some promise.

Y'know, I just don't trust shows from BBC America yet, considering how they've traditionally treated Doctor Who.

Plus, it's BBC America. Whenever America sticks their nose into BBC shows, bad things happen.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L4dJ8n64HE

Can we add Top Gear America to that list, too?


Okay.

And let's not forget

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2013-04-20 09:46:42 PM  

fusillade762: Speaking of Siffy: did anyone watch "Defiance"? The reviews were poor but I thought it was OK. I see potential there. And hopefully since they've got a videogame tied to it they might not be so quick to cancel it if the ratings aren't spectacular.


I thought the pilot was alright, but not great. Of course, for sci-fi shows, a not-great pilot is still pretty damn good. I'll certainly be watching the show for a bit to see where it goes.

I'm not sure about the video game tie-in. I guess we'll have to wait and see how closely the two end up connected in the long-term and how much someone who doesn't play the game ends up missing in terms of plot/mythology information.
 
2013-04-20 09:51:21 PM  

technomuse: Bonnie Hammer is the reason The SciFi Channel became SyFy and started showing Wrestling and really bad disaster movies.


AH, so someone who doesn't know anything about science fiction and actively hates it and tries to destroy it.
 
2013-04-20 09:53:21 PM  
I wanted to like this episode a lot more than I actually did. There was no real explanation of why the lost girl was trapped in the pocket universe, no explanation of who she was and no information about what was going to.happen to her after the rescue.

I'm not sure Clara is going to live up to the hype. I thought she was supposed to be feisty like Donna Noble. I'm not seeing it yet. But then again, I still think that Donna was the best of the NuWho companions.
 
2013-04-20 09:54:12 PM  
That episode was basically a Poltergeist rip-off.
 
2013-04-20 09:56:37 PM  

t3knomanser: Nefarious: Yes, there is potential there, I'm enjoying it so far.

The lead actress does an amazing job. Her German accent was a little goofy, but I  never get the feeling that all of the clones are actually the same person. They all feel convincingly different. That's a pretty amazing feat.


So far it's a better than average mystery, I'll be interested in seeing how it develops.

The show I really enjoyed was Channel 4's new show Utopia. I haven't really heard of people in the US getting into it but I think it has the potential to get a cult following.
 
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