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2013-04-20 01:43:53 AM  

machoprogrammer: The fact they stayed around the area (probably stupidest thing they could've done) makes me think they wanted to go down


Considering they didn't go on the lam immediately after the bombing, I suspect they thought that they got away with it. Going out in a blaze of glory in a shoot-out with the cops looks like a hastily-improvised B plan.

Big bro was a woman-beating, hyper-aggressive psycho with a chip on his shoulder.  Little bro either idolized his big brother and would have followed him anywhere, or was completely dominated by him.  Possibly both.
 
2013-04-20 01:45:07 AM  

ISO15693: Boojum2k: Fubini: Grungehamster: it will be Benghazi all over again that Obama didn't arrest him back then when he could have prevented all this by locking him up back then.

It would be awesome if our president was a crime fighting super hero.

He's a fan of Spider-Man, but I think he'd probably make a pretty good Iron Man given his talent for snark.

Not saying I agree with him often, I don't, but I think he's a good guy.

You have to admit - he's like a good luck charm for the US since he's been elected... averted the financial meltdown, got Bin Laden, got the Boston bomber, got health care reform - it's like everything he's involved with turns out perfectly. Maybe we should seriously think about amending the constitution again to allow more than two terms for this guy. It couldn't hurt.


No, the Constitution works pretty well as a good-luck charm in and of itself, and there was good reason for Washington to set the precedent that he did, as finally solidified in the 22nd amendment. Let him enjoy his two terms as well as he can, and afterwards he can continue to be a spokesman and statesman.
 
2013-04-20 01:45:48 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Fubini: tenpoundsofcheese: The guys at Nuremberg tried that defense too.

Good point

tenpoundsofcheese:It is sick that people buy it and are terrorist apologists.

WTF? Why ruin a perfectly good comment with crap? Do you shiat all over yourself too?

Where is anyone defending terrorism? Or are you the kind of person that can't empathize with people you don't agree with? Are you so emotionally stunted that everything in your entire world is only ever wholly good or wholly evil?

Look at some of the photos of this guy. Prom dates. College student stuff. Run of the mill Facebook and Twitter accounts. Do you really think that this guy is wholly evil? Do you think that every time he tweeted or posted a status update he immediately followed it with thoughts of bloody carnage? When he drove his prom date home, do you think he was contemplating how to bomb innocent kids?

I don't believe that this guy was born with a black heart. Something about the world warped him. It doesn't excuse him of his crimes, just like it didn't excuse the Nazis at Nuremberg. Take a step back and see this guy for who he is: a person, who for most of his life was a normal person just like you and me. Just because I recognize these things doesn't mean I'm condoning his actions.

Lame try in moving the goal posts.
You said you don't have any malice towards him.
That is NOT the same as saying that he is "wholly evil" and your stupid examples of him having terrible thoughts after his prom date.

He can be a wonderful date, have funny tweets, feed his dog on a regular schedule, but if he blows up people and goes on a killing rampage, I will hold a lot of malice towards him.  I won't be a terrorist apologist like you are trying to be by saying that he is a normal person just like you and me, except of course for the killing.


Ted Bundy approves this post.
A++++++++++++++++++++++
 
2013-04-20 01:46:30 AM  

HideAndGoFarkYourself: Not everybody's username is some deep seeded, meaningful thing.


It's "deep-seated."
 
2013-04-20 01:48:02 AM  

clyph: machoprogrammer: The fact they stayed around the area (probably stupidest thing they could've done) makes me think they wanted to go down

Considering they didn't go on the lam immediately after the bombing, I suspect they thought that they got away with it. Going out in a blaze of glory in a shoot-out with the cops looks like a hastily-improvised B plan.

Big bro was a woman-beating, hyper-aggressive psycho with a chip on his shoulder.  Little bro either idolized his big brother and would have followed him anywhere, or was completely dominated by him.  Possibly both.


Or neither.
 
2013-04-20 01:48:03 AM  

Fark It: zabadu: Well, bye then. Enjoy the training. And the fully covered women.

Are you trolling or are you actually retarded?


I larfed.

Kittypie070: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Sooo, do we have any farking idea what the scope of these guy's plans were, or what their motivation was?

Why sure, he's been absolutely singing like a canary since he was brought into (perhaps) the ICU in a state of probable semiconsciousness, with tubes shoved in everywhere, and the P-12's have gotten a whole terabyte drive filled with audio recordings of the interrogations by now.

My gods you are stupid.


I know! What's UP with that apostrophe?!!?

Also:

"We are now a nation of experts, with millions of people who know the meaning of everything that they haven't actually experienced."

It's like he's looking into the soul of this website:  http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2013/04/dzhokhar-tsarn a ev-is-found.html?mobify=0
 
2013-04-20 01:48:23 AM  

muck4doo: We aren't a democracy, and you are mad at this administration.


I am mad at the United States throwing it's own laws aside.

Your guy explicitly decided to torture people and disappear them into prisons without charges.

The current guy promised to put an end to that sort of bullshiat and has instead continued and expanded it.

I opposed it under Bush and I'll damn sure continue to oppose extrajudicial behavior under Obama.
 
2013-04-20 01:48:28 AM  

muck4doo: roblem is these guys killed three, and maimed many others. Have you not watched the news this week?


Four.  They shot a campus police officer to death also.
 
2013-04-20 01:48:52 AM  

muck4doo: It's okay. New England style is worth the extra effort.


www.campbellsoup.comwww.campbellsoup.com

Huh?  They've BOTH got pull-rings!
 
2013-04-20 01:48:52 AM  

ISO15693: Maybe we should seriously think about amending the constitution again to allow more than two terms for this guy. It couldn't hurt.


kairoswarriors.files.wordpress.com

You don't know about the OH GOD THE FACE EATING MONKEYS ARE GOING TO STEAL ALL THE CRYING SPARKLY EAGLE NEMATODE BIBLESS IN OUR LAWNS hysteria swirling around the concept of "Obama Third Term"?

Go on, toss the phrase into Google.
 
2013-04-20 01:48:59 AM  

clyph: machoprogrammer: The fact they stayed around the area (probably stupidest thing they could've done) makes me think they wanted to go down

Considering they didn't go on the lam immediately after the bombing, I suspect they thought that they got away with it. Going out in a blaze of glory in a shoot-out with the cops looks like a hastily-improvised B plan.

Big bro was a woman-beating, hyper-aggressive psycho with a chip on his shoulder.  Little bro either idolized his big brother and would have followed him anywhere, or was completely dominated by him.  Possibly both.


I think there's something solid to your analysis, but keep in mind they had multiple other explosive devices, and those aren't something you just keep around on the shelf until you need them (unless you're the U.S. Armed Forces). Homemade bombs get kinda touchy, and it's safer answering your girlfriend as to whether her dress makes her look fat than having an IED in your toolshed. They had plans for more attacks, I'm wondering if the release of their faces set them off early without being able to thoroughly place their next wave.
 
2013-04-20 01:49:02 AM  

Fubini: draa: You know what I see in this kid? My kids. One 18 and one 22. And my nephew who's 23. I'm not excusing anything he or his brother did but I also understand that they are both still kids in many respects.

Seriously- I work on a college campus and both of these guys would fit right in. Idiot kids with their whole lives ahead of them and not a drop of experience in the way of the world.


Seriously, how much farking experience do you need to have to know that blowing people up and killing cops is a bad thing?

More terrorist apologist rationalization for those "crazy kids doing goofy things".
 
2013-04-20 01:49:33 AM  

thisisyourbrainonFark: Fark It: zabadu: Well, bye then. Enjoy the training. And the fully covered women.

Are you trolling or are you actually retarded?

I larfed.

Kittypie070: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Sooo, do we have any farking idea what the scope of these guy's plans were, or what their motivation was?

Why sure, he's been absolutely singing like a canary since he was brought into (perhaps) the ICU in a state of probable semiconsciousness, with tubes shoved in everywhere, and the P-12's have gotten a whole terabyte drive filled with audio recordings of the interrogations by now.

My gods you are stupid.

I know! What's UP with that apostrophe?!!?

Also:

"We are now a nation of experts, with millions of people who know the meaning of everything that they haven't actually experienced."

It's like he's looking into the soul of this website:  http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2013/04/dzhokhar-tsarn a ev-is-found.html?mobify=0


(Fark, not The New Yorker)
 
kab
2013-04-20 01:49:41 AM  

Epoch_Zero: Anyone have definitive proof that he did yet? If he did, he deserves to be on the ground bleeding. But if he didn't....


Unsurprisingly, it's not something that many folks seem to be asking.
 
2013-04-20 01:50:06 AM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: shower_in_my_socks: If there is a bomb-throwing, homicidal maniac carjacking his way through my neighborhood, the cops can come the fark into my house if it saves lives.

And that's your choice to allow them to do so. My concern is with the people who chose not to surrender their rights in the face of danger, those who would not trade essential liberty for temporary security, whose homes were ransacked regardless. What was done at the Boston Marathon was horrific, but if we so quickly abandon what it means to be American in the aftermath, then we really are nothing more than the hollow caricatures that our enemies portray us as.


You have no proof that any of that happened. You are speaking out of your ass. If you thought maybe a mass murderer was hiding somewhere in your property you would want the cops to search it instead of doing so yourself. I have seen no one in Boston say their rights were violated.
 
2013-04-20 01:50:06 AM  

Epiphany: CNN now reporting that the same people who tried to save white hats brothers life are the ones working on him now.

So he probably is already dead.


And we are still trusting CNN? Since when?
 
2013-04-20 01:51:08 AM  

Silly Jesus: d3sertion: HideAndGoFarkYourself: Not everybody's username is some deep seeded, meaningful thing.

It's "deep-seated."

I deep seeded your mom last night.


Touche.
 
2013-04-20 01:52:12 AM  

BullBearMS: andychrist420: I've read the thread, and reading someone his rights when he's not fully conscious is a waste of time.

So what? Read them again later, if you like.

Seriously, why are so many people acting like reading him his rights is a bad thing?


They're not.  Whether he's read them now or later is irrelevant, given the current situation.  I've explained this multiple times, yet you quote part of my reply and make the same idiotic statement.  Typical troll behavior.  I'm not wasting any more time with you, as you're obviously unable to comprehend basic english, let alone logic.

/go back to the politics tab with your ignorance
 
2013-04-20 01:52:49 AM  

draa: if people wanted to compalin


I saw a p0rno like this once.
 
2013-04-20 01:54:18 AM  

muck4doo: You have no proof that any of that happened. You are speaking out of your ass. If you thought maybe a mass murderer was hiding somewhere in your property you would want the cops to search it instead of doing so yourself. I have seen no one in Boston say their rights were violated.


You're arguing with a person who thinks its illegal for the police to enter your house if you say "no", like he has never heard of a farking warrant before.
 
2013-04-20 01:54:33 AM  

torquestripe: andychrist420: BullBearMS: andychrist420: No one is arguing against Mirandizing this guy

There's been a constant stream of excuses in this thread.

My favorite was that he might not have been fully conscious, as if you couldn't possibly read them to him again later.

Stop making excuses for extrajudicial behavior. America shouldn't behave like a bunch of pants wetting pussies who can't be bothered to follow their own laws when the word terrorism is mentioned.

I've read the thread, and reading someone his rights when he's not fully conscious is a waste of time.  The law says he has to acknowledge his rights anyway.  Nobody is arguing against reading Miranda, but until he's being questioned concerning the crime, they aren't necessary.  One such instance would be, say, he's in critical condition in the hospital.  Once released, he'll be arrested, Mirandized, and taken to jail.  Just like a drunk driver would.  There is no extra-judicial behavior.  Stop making false comparisons.

Besides, unless these Farkers are Federal Judges (highly unlikely) their opinion means the same as yours.  Jack shiat.

But as a LEO to CYA always mirandize, no matter what the circumstance.


I am a LEO, and WHY?!  There's literally NO reason to always Mirandize a person.  If I see a person drive drunk, I have no reason to question him.  Ergo, I have no reason to read him his Miranda rights.  Like I said in a previous post, if he wants to sit in the back of the car and cry and talk about how he drank too much, let him.  If he wants to offer evidence without being prompted, that's his fault.

There is literally no reason to ALWAYS Mirandize a person.  None.
 
2013-04-20 01:54:55 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: He can be a wonderful date, have funny tweets, feed his dog on a regular schedule, but if he blows up people and goes on a killing rampage, I will hold a lot of malice towards him.  I won't be a terrorist apologist like you are trying to be by saying that he is a normal person just like you and me, except of course for the killing.


You apparently don't know what apologist means. The way that you're using it, you're implying that I am defending the actions of these bombers, or the bombing itself. I am not, and no one in this thread is arguing their defense. No one has suggested that they should not be held accountable for what they have done.

This guy was a normal person once. He's barely an adult by our standards, not even old enough to buy alcohol. This elicits sympathy from a lot of people, myself included. It's not sympathy in the "shouldn't be held accountable" sense, but rather the "what a waste for this guy to throw his life away" sense. This is amplified by reports that this whole thing wasn't really his idea.
 
2013-04-20 01:54:59 AM  

Silly Jesus: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: shower_in_my_socks: If there is a bomb-throwing, homicidal maniac carjacking his way through my neighborhood, the cops can come the fark into my house if it saves lives.

And that's your choice to allow them to do so. My concern is with the people who chose not to surrender their rights in the face of danger, those who would not trade essential liberty for temporary security, whose homes were ransacked regardless. What was done at the Boston Marathon was horrific, but if we so quickly abandon what it means to be American in the aftermath, then we really are nothing more than the hollow caricatures that our enemies portray us as.

[encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com image 197x256]


LOL!

ThrobblefootSpectre: muck4doo: roblem is these guys killed three, and maimed many others. Have you not watched the news this week?

Four.  They shot a campus police officer to death also.


Indeed.

BullBearMS: muck4doo: We aren't a democracy, and you are mad at this administration.

I am mad at the United States throwing it's own laws aside.

Your guy explicitly decided to torture people and disappear them into prisons without charges.

The current guy promised to put an end to that sort of bullshiat and has instead continued and expanded it.

I opposed it under Bush and I'll damn sure continue to oppose extrajudicial behavior under Obama.


WTF? What does Bush or Obama have to do with the Boston PD? Stop being an angry young man throwing rocks at trees. The people of Boston aren't going to Gitmo.
 
2013-04-20 01:55:31 AM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: shower_in_my_socks: If there is a bomb-throwing, homicidal maniac carjacking his way through my neighborhood, the cops can come the fark into my house if it saves lives.

And that's your choice to allow them to do so. My concern is with the people who chose not to surrender their rights in the face of danger, those who would not trade essential liberty for temporary security, whose homes were ransacked regardless. What was done at the Boston Marathon was horrific, but if we so quickly abandon what it means to be American in the aftermath, then we really are nothing more than the hollow caricatures that our enemies portray us as.


i718.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-20 01:55:44 AM  

BullBearMS: muck4doo: We aren't a democracy, and you are mad at this administration.

I am mad at the United States throwing it's own laws aside.

Your guy explicitly decided to torture people and disappear them into prisons without charges.

The current guy promised to put an end to that sort of bullshiat and has instead continued and expanded it.

I opposed it under Bush and I'll damn sure continue to oppose extrajudicial behavior under Obama.


You do realize Miranda changed the law in 1966.  The Supreme Court Threw aside hundreds of years of American law in order to give more protections to those accused of crimes.  There is nothing more American than changing the law.  Or would you rather we allow ourselves to be guided by the words of dead men from another time.  Isn't that exactly why so many people detest Islamic fundamentalists?
 
2013-04-20 01:56:12 AM  

cretinbob: Note he's holding it above the proximal cuff between two fingers. You can see the stylet. The distal cuff is just about to go in.
Maybe the attempt was unsuccesful and they switched to an NRB, but that's a King.


There is no stylet with a King airway.  Also, you have to fark up pretty bad to not successfully use the King.  You are seeing things in that photo that simply aren't there.  Could the King LT have been used?  Absolutely, but there isn't enough evidence in that one photo for you to claim that it is certainly being inserted by that ATF agent.
 
2013-04-20 01:56:15 AM  

illannoyin: Anyone else enjoying the irony that he's being treated at Beth Israel hospital?

Also, large breasted prom date as requested...

[i.imgur.com image 625x838]


What is the irony?
 
2013-04-20 01:56:36 AM  

andychrist420: They're not. Whether he's read them now or later is irrelevant, given the current situation.


How is that an excuse for not doing something that takes all of a a few seconds?

Bullshiat excuse is bullshiat.
 
2013-04-20 01:56:53 AM  
What gets me is why anyone would have thought the Indian and brown-colored missing Brown U student that the Interweb was convinced last night was the bomber, looked anything like the super white Chechen guy in the FBI photos.
 
2013-04-20 01:56:56 AM  

d3sertion: HideAndGoFarkYourself: Not everybody's username is some deep seeded, meaningful thing.

It's "deep-seated."


It's "drunk."
 
2013-04-20 01:57:03 AM  
Hurray!

Let's jump on that comfy bandwagon that says these two idiots caused it all!

Epoch_Zero: derpy: Novart: Therion: Here's this hour's freeper poutrage:

Obama Refused to deport Muslim Boston Bomber after 2009 criminal conviction violated immigration rules

"Tamerlan Tsarnaev, the 26-year-old killed in a wild shootout with police, was a legal U.S. resident who nevertheless could have been removed from the country after a 2009 domestic violence arrest and conviction, according to a Judicial Watch source."

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If true, is that not outrageous?

It's outrageous that Judicial Watch is still around, with out Bill Clinton to harass.

Truly? Truly outrageous?
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I love you and I love Jem.

/laughing at the false flags yer all so werked up over.
 
2013-04-20 01:57:59 AM  

illannoyin: Anyone else enjoying the irony that he's being treated at Beth Israel hospital?

Also, large breasted prom date as requested...

[i.imgur.com image 625x838]


i.imgur.com
 
2013-04-20 01:58:00 AM  

Epiphany: muck4doo: You have no proof that any of that happened. You are speaking out of your ass. If you thought maybe a mass murderer was hiding somewhere in your property you would want the cops to search it instead of doing so yourself. I have seen no one in Boston say their rights were violated.

You're arguing with a person who thinks its illegal for the police to enter your house if you say "no", like he has never heard of a farking warrant before.


Understood.
 
2013-04-20 01:58:34 AM  

thisisyourbrainonFark: draa: if people wanted to compalin

I saw a p0rno like this once.


Wow! Great catch on that typo. And can you get me the link to that while you're at it.
 
2013-04-20 01:59:01 AM  

m3000: What gets me is why anyone would have thought the Indian and brown-colored missing Brown U student that the Interweb was convinced last night was the bomber, looked anything like the super white Chechen guy in the FBI photos.


Wasn't that the "detective" work of some other website?
 
2013-04-20 01:59:10 AM  

muck4doo: Boston PD and all the law enforcement did a great job here


The sad thing is you probably really believe that.

Boston PD's response was half keystone kops, half gestapo -  simultaneously heavy handed and comically incompetent.   Every break in the case came from private citizens; NONE of BPD's high-tech stormtrooper tactics bore any fruit whatsoever.  It's like a baseball team saying they got the out because some guy in the stands caught the ball.
 
2013-04-20 01:59:18 AM  

Fubini: Grungehamster: it will be Benghazi all over again that Obama didn't arrest him back then when he could have prevented all this by locking him up back then.

It would be awesome if our president was a crime fighting super hero.


Funny, with the time machine and all, I've basically pictured him more like Dr Who.
 
2013-04-20 02:00:25 AM  

Fubini: Heh- I've thought about printing up Obama 2016 bumper stickers just for lulz.


Go all-in. "Michelle Obama 2016".
 
2013-04-20 02:01:10 AM  

HideAndGoFarkYourself: torquestripe: andychrist420: BullBearMS: andychrist420: No one is arguing against Mirandizing this guy

There's been a constant stream of excuses in this thread.

My favorite was that he might not have been fully conscious, as if you couldn't possibly read them to him again later.

Stop making excuses for extrajudicial behavior. America shouldn't behave like a bunch of pants wetting pussies who can't be bothered to follow their own laws when the word terrorism is mentioned.

I've read the thread, and reading someone his rights when he's not fully conscious is a waste of time.  The law says he has to acknowledge his rights anyway.  Nobody is arguing against reading Miranda, but until he's being questioned concerning the crime, they aren't necessary.  One such instance would be, say, he's in critical condition in the hospital.  Once released, he'll be arrested, Mirandized, and taken to jail.  Just like a drunk driver would.  There is no extra-judicial behavior.  Stop making false comparisons.

Besides, unless these Farkers are Federal Judges (highly unlikely) their opinion means the same as yours.  Jack shiat.

But as a LEO to CYA always mirandize, no matter what the circumstance.

I am a LEO, and WHY?!  There's literally NO reason to always Mirandize a person.  If I see a person drive drunk, I have no reason to question him.  Ergo, I have no reason to read him his Miranda rights.  Like I said in a previous post, if he wants to sit in the back of the car and cry and talk about how he drank too much, let him.  If he wants to offer evidence without being prompted, that's his fault.

There is literally no reason to ALWAYS Mirandize a person.  None.


You will see why in the coming months, concerning this terrorist. Just wait and see.
 
2013-04-20 02:02:45 AM  

muck4doo: WTF? What does Bush or Obama have to do with the Boston PD? Stop being an angry young man throwing rocks at trees.


The Obama administration has issued new guidance on use of the Miranda warning in interrogations of terrorism suspects, potentially chipping away at the rule that bars the government from using information in court if it was gathered before a suspect was informed of his right to remain silent and to an attorney.

As I've said quite a few times, the word "terrorism" comes up and we rush to throw the rule of law out the window.
 
2013-04-20 02:04:21 AM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Is that your ass in your profile pic, or did you actually manage to wrap a pair of Bugle Boys around a holstein calf?


encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com

That? That's your best shot?
 
2013-04-20 02:05:00 AM  

muck4doo: Epiphany: muck4doo: You have no proof that any of that happened. You are speaking out of your ass. If you thought maybe a mass murderer was hiding somewhere in your property you would want the cops to search it instead of doing so yourself. I have seen no one in Boston say their rights were violated.

You're arguing with a person who thinks its illegal for the police to enter your house if you say "no", like he has never heard of a farking warrant before.

Understood.


I would simply like to see the warrants issued or the recorded acceptance of search that apparently every household in this entire town agreed to without any coercion.
 
2013-04-20 02:05:32 AM  

muck4doo: Epiphany: muck4doo: You have no proof that any of that happened. You are speaking out of your ass. If you thought maybe a mass murderer was hiding somewhere in your property you would want the cops to search it instead of doing so yourself. I have seen no one in Boston say their rights were violated.

You're arguing with a person who thinks its illegal for the police to enter your house if you say "no", like he has never heard of a farking warrant before.

Understood.


I'm sure you two won't have any problem pointing to an example where I say anything of the sort.

Unless you're derpy enough to claim opposing warrantless searches is the same thing.
 
2013-04-20 02:06:44 AM  

libranoelrose: i.imgur.com


That 'shoop is bad and you should feel bad for posting it.
 
2013-04-20 02:07:06 AM  

torquestripe: 4seasons85!: Lee Jackson Beauregard: Glenford: Revek: Crap they took him  alive.

I want this prick to live the rest of his life behind bars. Death is the easy way out.

That, and there's the "72 virgins" factor.  Of course the ones that died are going to find that "paradise" has a much hotter climate than they bargained for, but the idea of martyrdom will still motivate the next idiot who wants to kill some infidels.

Actually there is good evidence that the original words said grapes and somehow it got mistranslated to 72 virgins.
If serious that would be tragically hilarious,


It was theorized by a professor of linguistics. I saw it on a documentary which I am sorry but I do not remember.
 
2013-04-20 02:08:23 AM  

andychrist420: BullBearMS: How is that an excuse for not doing something that takes all of a a few seconds?


Well, you can always Mirandize someone later, you may only have a few seconds to save their life.  Go away idiot, your troll is weak.


Because it wasn't possible to take a few seconds while the kid was being taken on the stretcher to the ambulance? It was impossible during the ride to the hospital?

Honestly, just stop.

This is an intentional new policy that was reported on months ago. It has nothing whatsoever to do with the facts on the ground.
 
2013-04-20 02:08:35 AM  

clyph: half keystone kops, half gestapo -  simultaneously heavy handed and comically incompetent.


Aww. Is widdle clyph sad that his holy criminal killer heros got apprehended by the dirty pigs?
 
2013-04-20 02:08:40 AM  

clyph: muck4doo: Boston PD and all the law enforcement did a great job here

The sad thing is you probably really believe that.

Boston PD's response was half keystone kops, half gestapo -  simultaneously heavy handed and comically incompetent.   Every break in the case came from private citizens; NONE of BPD's high-tech stormtrooper tactics bore any fruit whatsoever.  It's like a baseball team saying they got the out because some guy in the stands caught the ball.


Guns do not find people. Patience and observation find people! No matter what the police did, they were not particularly equipped to solve this. It's just that they were the ones who we expect to get in harm's way. Damn, reading this thread makes it look like Americans can only think of Chuck norris, when the real tools for the job would belong to Sherrlock Holmes. The police did just fine. So did the citizens. You should just enjoy the victory.

And instead of blaming the police for reality, you should also accept this as proof that more police, and more soldiers, cannot stop terrorists. Observant citizens stop terrorists and soldiers and police must respond to the citizens' lead.
 
2013-04-20 02:09:41 AM  

Boojum2k: 4seasons85!: Lee Jackson Beauregard: Glenford: Revek: Crap they took him  alive.

I want this prick to live the rest of his life behind bars. Death is the easy way out.

That, and there's the "72 virgins" factor.  Of course the ones that died are going to find that "paradise" has a much hotter climate than they bargained for, but the idea of martyrdom will still motivate the next idiot who wants to kill some infidels.

Actually there is good evidence that the original words said grapes and somehow it got mistranslated to 72 virgins.

Advertising campaign, it's easier to convince young, frustrated, ignorant young men to blow themselves up with the promise of poon than with dessert.


Well according to the linguist who looked at it, he thinks some of the dots placed over some of the words were written wrong so I don't think it was a campaign. Though other investigators say it makes sense because wine was a very important drink (as it is now) back when written. So the concept that you will drink with God makes more sense.
 
2013-04-20 02:10:55 AM  

muck4doo: Most breaks come from private citizens in every case in every town you dumbass. Were you thinking they should be wizards?


No, I'm thinking the police should have their high-tech military toys taken away and be prohibited from playing soldier in innocent people's living rooms without a warrant, and punished accordingly when they do.
 
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