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2013-04-20 01:09:33 AM

4seasons85!: Lee Jackson Beauregard: Glenford: Revek: Crap they took him  alive.

I want this prick to live the rest of his life behind bars. Death is the easy way out.

That, and there's the "72 virgins" factor.  Of course the ones that died are going to find that "paradise" has a much hotter climate than they bargained for, but the idea of martyrdom will still motivate the next idiot who wants to kill some infidels.

Actually there is good evidence that the original words said grapes and somehow it got mistranslated to 72 virgins.


Advertising campaign, it's easier to convince young, frustrated, ignorant young men to blow themselves up with the promise of poon than with dessert.
 
2013-04-20 01:09:58 AM

TheManofPA: Monday was the bombing
Creation of fear, but lots of citizens helping others
Tuesday was Waco
Hellish fireball, but people trying to help again
Friday was the capture
Great way to end the week


When was the ricin mailings?
 
2013-04-20 01:10:02 AM

shifty lookin bleeder: Agarista: Was the boat within the 20-block lockdown area?

No.


Yeah.  Great job of setting a perimeter, bringing in tons of manpower and equipment and making sure everything inside the perimeter was in fact clear... but ProTip for next time, if you're after someone, it helps to set a perimeter that has them inside it. ;)
 
2013-04-20 01:10:26 AM

Aquapope: Kittypie070: Nope, dude's got an ultra low Fark number. Ain't meow.

It's a False Flag.  Meow got a very low number way long time ago, then posted as Meow with a medium old number... just so he could fall back on some kind of legitimacy with his low number later.  Dogs who meow are that kind of crafty.


How the hell does one manage THAT!?
 
2013-04-20 01:11:17 AM

GreatGlavinsGhost: TheManofPA: Monday was the bombing
Creation of fear, but lots of citizens helping others
Tuesday was Waco
Hellish fireball, but people trying to help again
Friday was the capture
Great way to end the week

When was the ricin mailings?


That was evil move number 25.

/should have worked that in somehow.
 
2013-04-20 01:11:30 AM

Pumpernickel bread: al's hat: cybrwzrd: al's hat: Fissile: al's hat: BullBearMS: that bosnian sniper: DamnYankees: To repeat...

...as I was just mentioning when the last thread got kiboshed, considering the media's batting average this week I'm hardly surprised they'd cite it as they did. And, if it's the AG's spouting that crap, I'm genuinely disappointed -- but hardly surprised -- in them they'd continue this Bush-era bullshiat.

The kid is a naturalized citizen. He has rights, deserves his day in court and so does Boston and the rest of the country. We're not frickin' Syria.

After the Madrid bombings in Spain, they caught the criminals gave them an open trial in a real court of law and found them guilty.

After the London bombings, they caught the criminals, gave them a public trial in a real court of law and found them guilty.

After the Mumbai bombings in India, they caught the criminals, gave them a public trial in a real court of law and found them guilty.

How about we not be a bunch of pussies this time, America?

So are you suggesting a stoning in front of the Old State House?

-----------------

I suggesting we turn him over to Putin's goons.  I'd pay to see the look on his face as he's dragged on to the Aeroflot plane.  Bye-bye, and don't forget to write.

Considering the number of American citizens' lives he has affected there are probably a whole bunch of folks who would like to see him face justice here in the good ol' US of A.  I'm glad they got him alive and I hope he spills his guts about who, what, where, why, and when before he gets convicted and sentenced.  If a federal jury sentences him to death and he sits on death row in solitary confinement with no privileges for 20+ years before his appeals are exhausted, so much the better.

Let him lose in federal PMTIA prison for a year or two first, on a deal with the inmates that no one who makes him his biatch kills him.

As a I said upthread a bit, Jeffrey Dahmer didn't die of old age in prison with his life sentence ...


Well, Charley Manson did get lit up a little bit: http://www.nytimes.com/1984/09/26/us/around-the-nation-manson-is-set- a blaze-by-inmate-in-california.html
 
2013-04-20 01:11:49 AM

Epiphany: d3sertion: So then you don't consider people with confederate flags on their pickups Americans, right? Surely you're going to be petitioning the UN to recognize the confederate states as occupied land any day now.

I'm not even going to begin to list all the things wrong with this stupid farking comparison.


That's because you're not very bright.  It's okay though, you've demonstrated that well enough.
If you're going to try and call people stupid on the basis of a hyper technicality, you should really at least be technically right.  You're just loud wrong.
 
2013-04-20 01:11:53 AM

TheManofPA: GreatGlavinsGhost: TheManofPA: Monday was the bombing
Creation of fear, but lots of citizens helping others
Tuesday was Waco
Hellish fireball, but people trying to help again
Friday was the capture
Great way to end the week

When was the ricin mailings?

That was evil move number 25.

/should have worked that in somehow.


Sorry, didn't mean to crap on your poem, i just couldn't remember.
 
2013-04-20 01:11:57 AM

Epiphany: CNN now reporting that the same people who tried to save white hats brothers life are the ones working on him now.

So he probably is already dead.


No, they need to keep this one alive. Find out if more are involved.
 
2013-04-20 01:12:21 AM

PistolGripPump: Moss-covered three-handled prison shank gredunza.


lol  I'm going to sponsor you for epic timing failure
 
2013-04-20 01:12:29 AM

4seasons85!: Lee Jackson Beauregard: Glenford: Revek: Crap they took him  alive.

I want this prick to live the rest of his life behind bars. Death is the easy way out.

That, and there's the "72 virgins" factor.  Of course the ones that died are going to find that "paradise" has a much hotter climate than they bargained for, but the idea of martyrdom will still motivate the next idiot who wants to kill some infidels.

Actually there is good evidence that the original words said grapes and somehow it got mistranslated to 72 virgins.

If serious that would be tragically hilarious,
 
2013-04-20 01:13:00 AM
Mixed feelings on seeing people cheer the police.
 
2013-04-20 01:13:13 AM

dbirchall: shifty lookin bleeder: Agarista: Was the boat within the 20-block lockdown area?

No.

Yeah.  Great job of setting a perimeter, bringing in tons of manpower and equipment and making sure everything inside the perimeter was in fact clear... but ProTip for next time, if you're after someone, it helps to set a perimeter that has them inside it. ;)


How dare you question our heroes in blue!  Armchair quarterback, terrorist sympathizer!
 
2013-04-20 01:13:41 AM

muck4doo: Epiphany: CNN now reporting that the same people who tried to save white hats brothers life are the ones working on him now.

So he probably is already dead.

No, they need to keep this one alive. Find out if more are involved.


Yeah, and why the hell did they do it.
 
2013-04-20 01:13:48 AM

dark brew: cretinbob: The picture upthread shows a King airway being inserted. Yes, he's unconscious.

No, it doesn't.  That is your very generous interpretation of a single photo.  All I see is a non-rebreather, which is supported by the other photo which I posted still showing the NRB in place after he is loaded into the ambulance.


look again and post the second pic.


 i36.photobucket.com

Note he's holding it above the proximal cuff between two fingers. You can see the stylet. The distal cuff is just about to go in.
Maybe the attempt was unsuccesful and they switched to an NRB, but that's a King.

NRB
www.sharinginhealth.ca

King

www.kingsystems.com
 
2013-04-20 01:14:00 AM

Fubini: I don't believe that this guy was born with a black heart. Something about the world warped him. It doesn't excuse him of his crimes, just like it didn't excuse the Nazis at Nuremberg. Take a step back and see this guy for who he is: a person, who for most of his life was a normal person just like you and me. Just because I recognize these things doesn't mean I'm condoning his actions.


You know what I see in this kid? My kids. One 18 and one 22. And my nephew who's 23. I'm not excusing anything he or his brother did but I also understand that they are both still kids in many respects. And for that reason alone deserve some empathy on my part. White, black or brown doesn't matter either because they were still trying to form their opinions and their lives. They farked up and one paid the ultimate price but I'm willing to let the law handle it and let shiat fall where it may for the other. We all learn some valuable lessons before we're through and they both learned one as well. There's a line that you draw and if you go over it you'll pay for it in the end. Sooner or later we all learn that lesson.
 
2013-04-20 01:14:54 AM
It's amazing Alex Jones is still labeling this guy a Patsy and this entire thing was a false flag operation.

Michael Bay couldn't have written this script if given 5 years..
 
2013-04-20 01:15:00 AM

GreatGlavinsGhost: TheManofPA: GreatGlavinsGhost: TheManofPA: Monday was the bombing
Creation of fear, but lots of citizens helping others
Tuesday was Waco
Hellish fireball, but people trying to help again
Friday was the capture
Great way to end the week

When was the ricin mailings?

That was evil move number 25.

/should have worked that in somehow.

Sorry, didn't mean to crap on your poem, i just couldn't remember.


I'm pro the constructive Idea. I was trying to think of the whole week. I think Ricin was Tuesday/Wednesday.
 
2013-04-20 01:15:27 AM

Noam Chimpsky: Kittypie070: Fark It 2013-04-20 12:01:43 AM

I posted this in a redlit thread regarding the "public safety" exception to Miranda rights:

"IMO, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaah I'd wather passersby had been shot, undeclared martial law....

[farm4.staticflickr.com image 221x240]


Now that I think about it, I don't think there is anywhere else in the US where you could have done something like this. Imagine them trying this "shelter in place" command in a city with Republicans living in it.  Or blacks, for that matter.


So, you're saying that you think that had this happened in some place with Republicans or blacks in it that they would have done, what, exactly?
 
2013-04-20 01:15:34 AM

torquestripe: 4seasons85!: Lee Jackson Beauregard: Glenford: Revek: Crap they took him  alive.

I want this prick to live the rest of his life behind bars. Death is the easy way out.

That, and there's the "72 virgins" factor.  Of course the ones that died are going to find that "paradise" has a much hotter climate than they bargained for, but the idea of martyrdom will still motivate the next idiot who wants to kill some infidels.

Actually there is good evidence that the original words said grapes and somehow it got mistranslated to 72 virgins.
If serious that would be tragically hilarious,


Irshad Manji says 72 grapes is what it actually means.
 
2013-04-20 01:16:02 AM

r1niceboy: I'm astonished by how little the media in this country know about the ethnic Chechen nationalists. By the time the information about the survivor's political and religious beliefs are known and available, people won't care and will be back to wondering what Kim Kardashian will name her crotch fruit. I'm glad they got him alive, and am curious to see how someone who came to the US when they were a child could become radicalized.

This would be a good opportunity to learn why some people feel they must become a terrorist. We won't learn it though if there's something shiny to look at elsewhere.


There are 1001 reasons why someone would be motivated to do this and I'm not even counting insanity. Out of those 1001, 999 of them there is absolutely nothing we can mitigate to prevent their motivations. SO it is all for moot. The dead bro said he felt Americans are weird and he has not a single American friend. Seems to be that is crying out for help. That is true.

But to be fair how many HS kids or even college kids would 'friend' a foreign student who speaks with an accent, doesn't really party or knows who Beavis and Butthead or Kim Kardashian is?
 
2013-04-20 01:17:17 AM

dbirchall: shifty lookin bleeder: Agarista: Was the boat within the 20-block lockdown area?

No.

Yeah.  Great job of setting a perimeter, bringing in tons of manpower and equipment and making sure everything inside the perimeter was in fact clear... but ProTip for next time, if you're after someone, it helps to set a perimeter that has them inside it. ;)


Actually yes, it was
 
2013-04-20 01:18:01 AM
I feel grateful the violence has stopped.  The perps are examples of communication failures.  As well as delusional thoughts about identity  You are a human or an animal, it is your choice.  You pay for the decision in different ways.
 
2013-04-20 01:18:11 AM

saturn badger: machoprogrammer: And the funny part is all the feds and police wouldn't have caught them if they hadn't been stupid and hightailed it the fark out of there before anyone knew who they were.

The guy in the hospital fingered them first and then someone who knew who #2 was called the FBI. They may have gotten out but they were doomed from the minute that pic was published. There was no escaping this one.


Had they left the country Monday, they could've gotten away. They could have gotten a flight to Egypt or some other country (out of say, NYC). The fact they stayed around the area (probably stupidest thing they could've done) makes me think they wanted to go down, and not get away
 
2013-04-20 01:18:11 AM

styckx: It's amazing Alex Jones is still labeling this guy a Patsy and this entire thing was a false flag operation.

Michael Bay couldn't have written this script if given 5 years..


I'm pretty sure he wrote the 12:30-2:30 portion
EXPLOSION
FIREFIGHT
EXPLOSION
FIREFIGHT
GOOD GUYS TAKE THE LEAD...BUT THE VILLAIN ESCAPES FOR THE SEQUAL
EXPLOSION!

That was scary as hell to listen to for a while.
 
2013-04-20 01:18:24 AM

TheManofPA: GreatGlavinsGhost: TheManofPA: GreatGlavinsGhost: TheManofPA: Monday was the bombing
Creation of fear, but lots of citizens helping others
Tuesday was Waco
Hellish fireball, but people trying to help again
Friday was the capture
Great way to end the week

When was the ricin mailings?

That was evil move number 25.

/should have worked that in somehow.

Sorry, didn't mean to crap on your poem, i just couldn't remember.

I'm pro the constructive Idea. I was trying to think of the whole week. I think Ricin was Tuesday/Wednesday.


Messed-up week nonetheless.
 
2013-04-20 01:18:26 AM
SuperNinjaToad:

(...)

But to be fair how many HS kids or even college kids would 'friend' a foreign student who speaks with an accent, doesn't really party or knows who Beavis and Butthead or Kim Kardashian is?


is that foreign student female and hot? I think we'll need to know..
 
2013-04-20 01:18:29 AM

andychrist420: No one is arguing against Mirandizing this guy


There's been a constant stream of excuses in this thread.

My favorite was that he might not have been fully conscious, as if you couldn't possibly read them to him again later.

Stop making excuses for extrajudicial behavior. America shouldn't behave like a bunch of pants wetting pussies who can't be bothered to follow their own laws when the word terrorism is mentioned.
 
2013-04-20 01:18:43 AM

Fark It: Lee Harvey Oswald was a Marine and shot the president. He was captured in an hour, without cell phones, FLIR, helicopters, or tanks roaming the streets, and he wasn't lying in a pool of his own blood.


Yeah, well, shooting the president is kind of a big deal. There is no aftermath of injured you have to take care of. It was a lone shot or two from one building, not a two minute get away from the bombs. One can cover a lot of ground in two minutes. And then good ole Jack Ruby took care of the pool of blood on his own.

I'm not sure how your post relates nor why my response does.
 
2013-04-20 01:19:36 AM
I'm just curious as to what problem these Muslim kids were using the 2nd Amendment to solve.
 
2013-04-20 01:19:43 AM
 
2013-04-20 01:19:57 AM

chewielouie: What, the suspect's injuries require double leg amputations? Well, if you say so doc.


No, no, no.  Double leg and double arm.  It's the sort of medical care this guy really deserves.
 
2013-04-20 01:20:18 AM

TheManofPA: GreatGlavinsGhost: TheManofPA: GreatGlavinsGhost: TheManofPA: Monday was the bombing
Creation of fear, but lots of citizens helping others
Tuesday was Waco
Hellish fireball, but people trying to help again
Friday was the capture
Great way to end the week

When was the ricin mailings?

That was evil move number 25.

/should have worked that in somehow.

Sorry, didn't mean to crap on your poem, i just couldn't remember.

I'm pro the constructive Idea. I was trying to think of the whole week. I think Ricin was Tuesday/Wednesday.


www.slate.com

Sundays

/if it ever freakin' comes back
 
2013-04-20 01:20:40 AM

illannoyin: Anyone else enjoying the irony that he's being treated at Beth Israel hospital?

Also, large breasted prom date as requested...

[i.imgur.com image 625x838]


I'm not sure he is the date. If it is he had really long arms.
 
2013-04-20 01:21:23 AM

BullBearMS: andychrist420: No one is arguing against Mirandizing this guy

There's been a constant stream of excuses in this thread.

My favorite was that he might not have been fully conscious, as if you couldn't possibly read them to him again later.

Stop making excuses for extrajudicial behavior. America shouldn't behave like a bunch of pants wetting pussies who can't be bothered to follow their own laws when the word terrorism is mentioned.


It was a great victory tonight, and we got the bad guys. Stop pissing all over it. I'm sure he'll be read his rights. Stop finding any excuse to be mad at this country.
 
2013-04-20 01:21:36 AM
Hate to bring the partisan politics in, but I'm predicting right now: if the Washington Post's story that the FBI interviewed the older brother 2 years ago is true, it will be Benghazi all over again that Obama didn't arrest him back then when he could have prevented all this by locking him up back then. It won't matter if he actually was planning/actively linked to any terrorist groups back then will be irrelevant: this will be an outrage for a few months at least.
 
2013-04-20 01:21:48 AM

dugitman: PistolGripPump: Moss-covered three-handled prison shank gredunza.

lol  I'm going to sponsor you for epic timing failure


BAH GAWD, PgP is now on TF!
 
2013-04-20 01:22:22 AM

cretinbob: dark brew: cretinbob: The picture upthread shows a King airway being inserted. Yes, he's unconscious.

No, it doesn't.  That is your very generous interpretation of a single photo.  All I see is a non-rebreather, which is supported by the other photo which I posted still showing the NRB in place after he is loaded into the ambulance.

look again and post the second pic.


 [i36.photobucket.com image 441x348]

Note he's holding it above the proximal cuff between two fingers. You can see the stylet. The distal cuff is just about to go in.
Maybe the attempt was unsuccesful and they switched to an NRB, but that's a King.

NRB
[www.sharinginhealth.ca image 350x494]

King

[www.kingsystems.com image 480x280]


But this is small shiat compared to a/an THOROCOTOMY!

Thank you FARK for expanding my vocabulary.
 
2013-04-20 01:22:59 AM

styckx: It's amazing Alex Jones is still labeling this guy a Patsy and this entire thing was a false flag operation.

Michael Bay couldn't have written this script if given 5 years..


As a writer I concede to the wingnuts on a nearly daily basis.

Nothing I could come up with rivals some of the theories Jones and Glen Beck have managed to orchestrate in their minds.  It's breathtaking.

But it's also terrifying.  These are the same people that go out into the world and order in an IHOP and are trusted to complete the transaction without an incident.
 
2013-04-20 01:23:04 AM

Boojum2k: 4seasons85!: Lee Jackson Beauregard: Glenford: Revek: Crap they took him  alive.

I want this prick to live the rest of his life behind bars. Death is the easy way out.

That, and there's the "72 virgins" factor.  Of course the ones that died are going to find that "paradise" has a much hotter climate than they bargained for, but the idea of martyrdom will still motivate the next idiot who wants to kill some infidels.

Actually there is good evidence that the original words said grapes and somehow it got mistranslated to 72 virgins.

Advertising campaign, it's easier to convince young, frustrated, ignorant young men to blow themselves up with the promise of poon than with dessert.


I dunno, how good is this dessert?

/Not so young anymore
 
2013-04-20 01:23:08 AM
Move over Alex Jones - Glenn Beck has you beat by a mile here:  http://bit.ly/ZyLgbO

"Beck gives Feds until Monday to come clean on Marathon cover-up"
 
2013-04-20 01:23:08 AM

djkutch: I'm just curious as to what problem these Muslim kids were using the 2nd Amendment to solve.


2nd Amendment doesn't say you have a right to explode bombs on innocent people. Don't be a douche.
 
2013-04-20 01:23:13 AM

BullBearMS: andychrist420: No one is arguing against Mirandizing this guy

There's been a constant stream of excuses in this thread.

My favorite was that he might not have been fully conscious, as if you couldn't possibly read them to him again later.

Stop making excuses for extrajudicial behavior. America shouldn't behave like a bunch of pants wetting pussies who can't be bothered to follow their own laws when the word terrorism is mentioned.


Have you ever Mirandized someone? I have. The last part is kind of important too, where you ask someone if they understand these rights as they have been read to them. Stop spouting Hollywood style nonsense, this guy is going to be Mirandized and processed entirely in accordance with applicable Federal law, they aren't going to let a single thing that could give a halfway competent lawyer a fighting chance. He deserves a fair trial, but that does not mean he necessarily has or should have a chance of being found not guilty in one.
 
2013-04-20 01:23:24 AM

Grungehamster: Hate to bring the partisan politics in, but I'm predicting right now: if the Washington Post's story that the FBI interviewed the older brother 2 years ago is true, it will be Benghazi all over again that Obama didn't arrest him back then when he could have prevented all this by locking him up back then. It won't matter if he actually was planning/actively linked to any terrorist groups back then will be irrelevant: this will be an outrage for a few months at least.


As it should be.
 
2013-04-20 01:23:34 AM

Tommy Moo: impaler: Tommy Moo: Pretty much. I have never understood why the left in this country is the group that defense these shiatbirds

The left is defending the bombers?

Oh wait, no they're not.

You mean Muslims? Defending them as in "they're not all terrorists."

Yeah, it's about the deference between individuals and groups.

I do mean Muslims. Did you read my post? I wasn't just talking about terrorists. I can't believe that liberals in this country defend Muslims. Whether they are actively killing people or not, they still believe that women are the dominion of men, that science is evil and arrogant, that homosexuals should suffer extreme castigation, and that anyone who is not part of their blood cult will be tortured in hell for all of eternity. Liberals love to hate on Christianity, but for some reason (white guilt comes to mind) they can't express disfavor of Islam, in spite of the fact that it's the exact same farking religion. Every Muslim in the world pretty much believes all the same shiat as Pat Robertson and Mike Huckabee.


The weird thing is, I'm a liberal atheist, and the level of ignorance on display here actually causes me physical distress. I've got a close relative who is muslim, who is so used to this level of asshattery, that she barely even rolls her eyes when some impotent so-called patriot does it in front of her.

"White guilt" probably isn't the term you're looking for. I'm sure every middle-aged guy with an arab name has a similar reaction to mine when some self-appointed spokesman for one sixth of the world's population pushes a button and leaves a messy stain as their only contribution to the human race. Maybe it's "concern over the gene pool needing some chlorine tabs"?
 
2013-04-20 01:23:43 AM

rev. dave: I feel grateful the violence has stopped.  The perps are examples of communication failures.  As well as delusional thoughts about identity  You are a human or an animal, it is your choice.  You pay for the decision in different ways.


The violence is chugging right along just like it always has.  It is part of the human condition.  Just today in the U.S. murders accounted for more than 10 times the body count of these two clowns.  Granted, the high profile terroristic murders have paused for a while, but we'll see it again before long.
 
2013-04-20 01:23:57 AM
Sooo, do we have any farking idea what the scope of these guy's plans were, or what their motivation was?
 
2013-04-20 01:24:29 AM
Dudewithmissinglegs.jpeg. Fark anyone feeling sorry for these farks. I was glad to see the older guy missing his torso.
 
2013-04-20 01:24:29 AM
muck4doo: It was a great victory tonight, and we got the bad guys. Stop pissing all over it. I'm sure he'll be read his rights. Stop finding any excuse to be mad at this country.

I was hoping we could be a United States again, but some people just don't want that. Odd that they are the oes who cream the loudest that they are the best , most patriotic Americans, isn't it.
 
2013-04-20 01:24:36 AM

Grungehamster: it will be Benghazi all over again that Obama didn't arrest him back then when he could have prevented all this by locking him up back then.


It would be awesome if our president was a crime fighting super hero.
 
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