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2013-04-20 12:26:24 AM  

RelativeEase: When does this guy get offered a professorship?


Oh hey look, another dittohead.
 
2013-04-20 12:26:25 AM  

ha-ha-guy: Well on the police tactics, given that:

1.  The cops apparently did manage to locate all automobiles he could use to escape (the Honda(s)).
2.  They had enough fire power in the area he didn't feel comfortable going for a second car jacking.
3.  They had enough of an impact he felt the need to go ground in the back of a boat despite being injured.
4.  They were close enough to respond to a 911 call and contain him once a third party found him.
5.  They did all this all based on a shooting that occurred last night.
6.  Only 1 dead cop (MIT) and one wounded (Transit), no dead third parties, and they took the guy alive.

This doesn't exactly go down in the annuals of history as a police fail.  Sure we can hindsight their decision the perimeter size, but it did get the job done in the sense of forcing him to ground.


There were also probably 300-400 houses inside their first perimiter, and this is fraking Wata'tahwn.  Many, many 2-3 family residencies.  That's a pretty dense neighborhood and a lot of area to search no matter the manpower.
 
2013-04-20 12:26:27 AM  

Mrtraveler01: Grand_Moff_Joseph: ...and the Boston area mosque has already been vandalized

https://twitter.com/Ezaffar/status/325462951777673217/photo/1

The local Muslim community here in St. Louis had a press conference earlier today to basically denounce what happened in Boston.

But of course that won't stop people from going "HURR DURR RELIGION OF PEACE!!!"


Their religion had as much to do with this as their nationality did.

/That is, nothing, for those of you who need a whole potato to count to it.
 
2013-04-20 12:26:30 AM  

hammer85: Pumpernickel bread: Fubini: Fark It: These guys were amateurs, and they shut down a major city for a day, while we essentially declared martial law.  And the politicians and police are up on their soapboxes beating their chests and suckin' each other's dicks, and you jingoistic morons are eating it up.  They're amateurs, and they won.

You sound awful tough. I've seen it asked before: what would you have done differently?

Well, at the end of the day with all their bombs and guns, they only killed three people.  that crazy Korean at Virginia Tech killed over 30 all by himself with just a couple of handguns - one a .22.  Dude in Colorado got more, again working solo.  These two working together only get three.  Amateurs, but are now infamous because they hit a very high profile event

The bombers also injured/maimed 150+ people, something neither the VT, Aurora, or Newton did.

I feel worse for those people, especially those that lost their limbs, knowing that their lives are forever marked by these assholes


Oh come on, stop with the false justifications and cognitive dissonance. Fact is, these two amateurs did far less damage than a well-armed citizen. But the reaction has been out of all proportion to the results.
 
2013-04-20 12:26:33 AM  

Mrtraveler01: Grand_Moff_Joseph: ...and the Boston area mosque has already been vandalized

https://twitter.com/Ezaffar/status/325462951777673217/photo/1

The local Muslim community here in St. Louis had a press conference earlier today to basically denounce what happened in Boston.

But of course that won't stop people from going "HURR DURR RELIGION OF PEACE!!!"


Or stop people from saying that the Muslim community didn't say anything condemning this.
 
2013-04-20 12:26:52 AM  
The freaking media and their perpetuating nonsense of the law.  Not every person arrested is read their Miranda Warnings.  I have arrested probably 1,000 who have never been read their rights.  The ONLY time you have to read somebody their rights, is if they are 1) in custody/not free to leave and 2) are being questioned.

The damn media and police procedural television shows make it seem like a person is arrested for something as simple as driving on a suspended license, and the police officer ALWAYS stands by the back window and reads them their rights, or he reads them as he's dramatically handcuffing him.  That's simply not the case.  If there's no reason to question the guy, there's no reason to Mirandize him. If he wants to sit in the back of the police car and talk and talk and talk and confess, good, let him.  It's ALL admissible as long as he's not prompted by the police to do so.

This guy was likely unconscious, or at the least, debilitated to the point where he couldn't understand/waive his rights anyway when arrested.  It's not like he gets to walk out of the hospital because they didn't immediately Mirandize him.  Rest assured, if he's questioned, he'll be read his rights.

The Public Safety Exception is there to allow officers, facing an imminent threat (like a bomb going off, or a dying person) to forego Miranda in the interest of the greater good.  If the suspect is going to be spending hours or days in the hospital, that exception would not apply.
 
2013-04-20 12:27:05 AM  

worlddan: High Fives for what? Near as I can tell it was a lot of wasted tax dollars. The police didn't even find him, some guy checking his yard did. Just think, if the police hadn't scared the hell out of everyone and so they stayed inside he would have been found hours ago. Well, more overtime for all the police; I can't wait to see the bill on that. I bet the police union will want a new contract now. For nothing. If these dimwits bombers had even half a brain they never would have been caught be these stooges.

EMBARRASSING


Dude, guins and martial arts do not help you to catch a criminal, or anyone for that matter. Patience and investigation help you to catch somone who is trying to hide. the reason for cops to run around is to stop any other terroists from popping up in the meatime.

I think Boston did everything right.
 
2013-04-20 12:27:17 AM  

Fubini: tenpoundsofcheese: You don't feel malice towards a guy who puts a bomb directly in back of a kid and kills him and blows the legs off of his sister
and kills a cop, gets into a fire fight with police?

WTF does someone have to do for you to feel malice towards them?

This guy seems like he was caught up with bad company and a bad situation. He's certainly a bad guy, but I don't feel like he's terrorist-evil, more naive. But that's just my read on the situation, none of us really know what's going through the guy's head.


The guys at Nuremberg tried that defense too.
It is sick that people buy it and are terrorist apologists.
 
2013-04-20 12:27:29 AM  

Tommy Moo: Pretty much. I have never understood why the left in this country is the group that defense these shiatbirds


The left is defending the bombers?

Oh wait, no they're not.

You mean Muslims? Defending them as in "they're not all terrorists."

Yeah, it's about the deference between individuals and groups.
 
2013-04-20 12:27:29 AM  

philotech: Tommy Moo: philotech: Tommy Moo: GoldSpider: And how can we call this "terrorism" without knowing the bombers' motive?

They were radical Muslims who grew to hate this country because we tolerate homosexuality and female sexuality. Next?

Citation please.

Here's two for you:

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/459179/20130419/tamerlan-tsarnaev- bo xer-boston-marathon.htm

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/459253/20130419/feiz-mohammad-tame rl an-tsarnaev-boston-marathon.htm

Try again, neither link contains political statements by either suspect.


I'd be willing to bet he did not like women at all, as him beating his girlfriend in 2009 is supposed to be the main reason he was denied citizenship and therefore unable to join the US Olympic Boxing team.

However, he was said also to have a sharper temperament than the "puppyish" Dzhokhar, and was arrested for assault and battery after a complaint of domestic violence against his girlfriend in 2009.

Tamerlan is believed to have been denied citizenship after his arrest, which is also thought to have disqualified him from competing for a place in the US Olympic team.


Telegraph
 
2013-04-20 12:27:56 AM  

Tommy Moo: Pretty much. I have never understood why the left in this country is the group that defense these shiatbirds. Everything about Islam fundamentalist Christianity is regressive and right winged. They hate women and homosexuals, view science and modern medicine as human arrogance, and believe that apostasy carries a death sentence.

And that's the "moderate" ones. The only difference between moderate and fundamentalist Muslims is that moderate ones just believe abhorrent, right-winged horseshiat quietly, and aren't actively trying to murder us to spread it.


Yeah, the problem is fundamentalism, not which magic book you read.
 
2013-04-20 12:28:00 AM  

Fark It: farkinglizardking: That being said, this situation could upset that whole notion. But let's not forget that Lincoln is regularly voted the greatest president ever and he suspended habeus corpus for most of his tenure

Lincoln actually face a legitimate threat to the Republic, there was an open, unlawful rebellion.  The Constitution allows for such extreme circumstances.  This kid is a criminal.  He was never a threat to our Republic.  Lives and property?  Of course.


I wholeheartedly agree. I was not clear enough in my articulation; the speed these threads progress forced me to submit my first draft.

I was arguing against the people who were screaming on my FB page today, saying that having LE ask you to stay indoors because there was a notorious criminal on the loose is a violation of their civil rights. It might possibly be, but if one of these people were taken hostage or injured by said fugitive there is no doubt the family would sue for millions upon millions.

Personally, I may have fractured a law or two in my time. But if I was in Boston (And I almost nearly was, should be living there if not for a last minute college decision) I would allow the heavily armed tactical teams to perform a quick sweep of my home to determine that I wasn't harboring a terrorist (alleged). Given the circumstances, I'm assuming they'd overlook the passed out hippie on my couch and the funny looking vase on my kitchen table.

It's pointless to say now, but we need to wait until all facts are in and then decide if the LE made the right decision. There's so much information and disinformation floating around on social media and MSM that it's horribly difficult to know what was done correctly.

/Even I forgot the point I was vehemently arguing...
 
2013-04-20 12:28:17 AM  
 
2013-04-20 12:28:31 AM  

derpy: Grand_Moff_Joseph: ...and the Boston area mosque has already been vandalized

https://twitter.com/Ezaffar/status/325462951777673217/photo/1

"Graffiti at Cambridge, MA Mosque"

Google "Graffiti at Cambridge, MA Mosque"

Whar mosque? Whar?

/I smell cow poopie


I was friends with several muslims in Arlington TX and attended their mosque several times. It was in an old strip mall- the only part of the building still in use. They were trying to raise money to build a nice mosque, but that was still in the fundraising stage.
 
2013-04-20 12:28:41 AM  

Mrtraveler01: Grand_Moff_Joseph: ...and the Boston area mosque has already been vandalized

https://twitter.com/Ezaffar/status/325462951777673217/photo/1

The local Muslim community here in St. Louis had a press conference earlier today to basically denounce what happened in Boston.

But of course that won't stop people from going "HURR DURR RELIGION OF PEACE!!!"


Nothing they can say will ever get people over their hatred. Have Christians, Gays, or Blacks ever said anything to get their haters to overcome their hate? Getting over hate comes with personal interaction.
 
2013-04-20 12:28:52 AM  

shower_in_my_socks: doglover: shower_in_my_socks: Maybe you can share with us your professional law enforcement background that makes you such a great judge about whether the ATF, FBI, and police and SWAT in a major US city, were all "amateurs."

He was talking about the terrorists, not the cops, in the sentence you posted.


Fine, but the sentiment of his post was the same. He thinks the law enforcement was "an embarrassment." Well fark him. I'm a bleeding heart liberal, but this what the law enforcement pulled off in Boston these past 24 hours was farking incredible. And playing it down like it was just some "teenager" -- f*ck, man. That d!ckhead maimed 200 farking people, killed a cop, and seriously wounded another one. It's not like they were teenieboppers throwing rocks at windows.


Lee Harvey Oswald was a Marine and shot the president.  He was captured in an hour, without cell phones, FLIR, helicopters, or tanks roaming the streets, and he wasn't lying in a pool of his own blood.
 
2013-04-20 12:29:17 AM  

cretinbob: Tommy Moo: Pretty much. I have never understood why the left in this country is the group that defense these shiatbirds. Everything about Islam fundamentalist Christianity is regressive and right winged. They hate women and homosexuals, view science and modern medicine as human arrogance, and believe that apostasy carries a death sentence.

And that's the "moderate" ones. The only difference between moderate and fundamentalist Muslims is that moderate ones just believe abhorrent, right-winged horseshiat quietly, and aren't actively trying to murder us to spread it.

Yeah, the problem is fundamentalism, not which magic book you read.


Circle gets the square.
 
2013-04-20 12:29:26 AM  

torquestripe: Peki: UNC_Samurai: mikaloyd: Can somebody go back into Mondays thread and name and shame all the idiots who were wrong about these bombers' races, religions,nationalities, and political affiliations? Then quote them here? Because that'd be fun to see. And help with ignore lists.

All right, I'll apologize.  I jumped the gun, and pegged the bomber as a State of Franklin neo-separatist.  I admit, it was bigoted and illogical to paint everyone living in the area south of the Cumberland Gap as radical militants who wanted nothing more than to divest themselves from North Carolina and Tennessee.  I'm sure many people living in the mountains are hard-working folk who just want micro-regional representation.  I will endeavor from this day forth to work towards improving attitudes in society towards Franklin-Americans.

I'll join this train. My stance was always that I hoped it was white guys so that the collateral damage from possible resulting xenophobic racism would be minimal. Totally blew me away that they were Russian. This really seems like one of those instances where you get a whole bunch of adjectives together that seem to not fit, and yet exist anyway. Everyone wins, and everyone lost. I do hope the remaining suspect is treated with the dignity and respect an American citizen deserves. I'd really like to turn our reputation with the rest of the world around a little bit.

Now, the fallout. Popcorn time.

President Obama committed a drone strike on American citizens, killing them.  What dignity and respect were they extended by our government?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anwar_al-Awlaki


Apples =/= Oranges
 
2013-04-20 12:29:30 AM  

itazurakko: If they're citizens there's not much they can do - after all, plenty of US-born people also get radicalized by the interwebs.

But perhaps if people didn't end up having these identity crises, some of it can be avoided.

Though immigrating at 16 is probably a really shiatty age. The younger kids have enough school left that they are forced to adapt, have sufficient TIME to adapt, and end up "1.5 gen." Older immigrants are fully "1st gen" with a firm identity, I'm from country X and now living in country Y as an expat, hooked into normal expat circles.

But this guy, he came to the US at 16 but after having spent time in a bunch of places, not enough school left to get socialized American after arrival, not enough record in any specific one country previous to be firm in "I'm a guy from XXX now coming in as a foreign student" or whatever either, feeling "hey I'm ethnically X!!! Hey!!!" (i.e. Chechen) but hasn't lived in Chechnya during any kind of conscious age enough for actual Chechens to actually view him as a local "real" Chechen guy either no doubt, so... identity issues.

So maybe he thinks, well, to be a true Chechen patriot, I need to do X Y and Z, and it's all about the Chechen conflict (and they lived in Dagestan too where that stuff is very much alive) so he decides, hey, I'll support you from here, look! See!

...though still I'd love to know just how he thinks bombing in BOSTON of all places is gonna do anything for Chechnya issues, but I suppose he could have rationalized it out to "well, I can do a more general jihad thing."

All this though, I'd love to hear the younger brother take on it. He probably knows something about the older brother thought process.


Good points. I too would love to hear about the older brothers thought process. From what it sounds like he is also a victim.

Nice to see some sanity in this thread. There have been a few good posts.
 
2013-04-20 12:29:38 AM  

Nadie_AZ: derpy: Grand_Moff_Joseph: ...and the Boston area mosque has already been vandalized

https://twitter.com/Ezaffar/status/325462951777673217/photo/1

"Graffiti at Cambridge, MA Mosque"

Google "Graffiti at Cambridge, MA Mosque"

Whar mosque? Whar?

/I smell cow poopie

I was friends with several muslims in Arlington TX and attended their mosque several times. It was in an old strip mall- the only part of the building still in use. They were trying to raise money to build a nice mosque, but that was still in the fundraising stage.


To add, as a kid, when we lived in Western NY, we attended our mormon church at an old Granger building. They hadn't raised money to build one of those, then, either.

So a non-churchy looking building can still be a church.
 
2013-04-20 12:29:47 AM  

muck4doo: Kittypie070: muck, I think that paulseta dude is smoking it up somethin' early.

It is 4/20. :)

I've had some stashed for months, but won't touch it while I'm job hunting.

/Got laid off months ago.


I think that's coming down the pike for me.  Pretty sure the healthcare system I work for is either joining or being overtaken by another health system.
/Anyway, for now, I got your back for 4/20.  It is after midnight EDT.
 
2013-04-20 12:30:09 AM  
I am on my fourth bottle of Abita Abbey Ale, and I want you all to know that I love you all.  Even the trolls.  You know who you are.

beerandamovie.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-04-20 12:30:23 AM  
Wow. I leave right after the press conference and they capture the dude.
 
2013-04-20 12:30:24 AM  

al's hat: cretinbob: BuckTurgidson: walkerhound: From Reddit:

[i.imgur.com image 850x531]

What's a "reddit"?

It's a thing that wishes it were Fark, but SSSSSUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKS

I chuckled...thank you!


Sadly, no. I so love Fark. But the upvote and comment sorting are but two features that give Reddit the lead.

Yet I am still drawn to you sweet sweet Fark. What ARE your powers over me?
 
2013-04-20 12:30:36 AM  
Anyone else enjoying the irony that he's being treated at Beth Israel hospital?

Also, large breasted prom date as requested...

i.imgur.com
 
2013-04-20 12:30:49 AM  

theotherles: Something I wrote in 1995:


You haven't got any less wrong since then. What's your point?
NRA = good. Criminals = bad. And never the twain shall meet? But you're ignoring the link between unrestricted gun ownership and gun deaths.
 
2013-04-20 12:31:06 AM  

Pumpernickel bread: I must say, I'm a little bummed that's this guys reward for this is a lifetime of free food, clothing, shelter, and medical care at our expense.   He hates America and he really got over on us.


There's more to living than mere biological existence.

He F'ed up seriously.
 
2013-04-20 12:31:18 AM  

HideAndGoFarkYourself: The freaking media and their perpetuating nonsense of the law.  Not every person arrested is read their Miranda Warnings.  I have arrested probably 1,000 who have never been read their rights.  The ONLY time you have to read somebody their rights, is if they are 1) in custody/not free to leave and 2) are being questioned.

The damn media and police procedural television shows make it seem like a person is arrested for something as simple as driving on a suspended license, and the police officer ALWAYS stands by the back window and reads them their rights, or he reads them as he's dramatically handcuffing him.  That's simply not the case.  If there's no reason to question the guy, there's no reason to Mirandize him. If he wants to sit in the back of the police car and talk and talk and talk and confess, good, let him.  It's ALL admissible as long as he's not prompted by the police to do so.

This guy was likely unconscious, or at the least, debilitated to the point where he couldn't understand/waive his rights anyway when arrested.  It's not like he gets to walk out of the hospital because they didn't immediately Mirandize him.  Rest assured, if he's questioned, he'll be read his rights.

The Public Safety Exception is there to allow officers, facing an imminent threat (like a bomb going off, or a dying person) to forego Miranda in the interest of the greater good.  If the suspect is going to be spending hours or days in the hospital, that exception would not apply.


What an interesting handle for an LEO.  I must say, it certainly plays into the stereotype of cops held on this site.  Something along the lines of:


24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-04-20 12:31:19 AM  

cretinbob: So yeah, right wing conservatives


And all it took for this to become a talking point was a couple bombs and a few threads! I also want to give an honorable mention to Sam Harris and Richard Dawkins for making it ok for white men to criticize Islam. Them and these two "white rightwingers" from Boston.

And by the way: Atheism is a religion!
 
2013-04-20 12:31:28 AM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: ...and the Boston area mosque has already been vandalized

https://twitter.com/Ezaffar/status/325462951777673217/photo/1


Did they blow the legs off of the mosque?
Link is farked.
 
2013-04-20 12:31:43 AM  

theotherles: utah dude: GoldSpider: I think we'll all be a little disappointed if they police don't find an AR-15 among the suspects' possessions.

uh? an AK-15 or an AR-47 ? they're from the 'Russian assault rifle' crowd, bro.

That's a pussy weapon.  I have a semi-auto SA-58, an Austrian clone of the FAL.


LOL!
 
2013-04-20 12:31:51 AM  

illannoyin: Also, large breasted prom date as requested...


Is that Snookie?
 
2013-04-20 12:31:54 AM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: ..and the Boston area mosque has already been vandalized

https://twitter.com/Ezaffar/status/325462951777673217/photo/1



And in the past 2 months several christian churches in that area have been vandalized.

http://www.boston.com/metrodesk/2013/02/03/three-wilmington-churches -v andalized-police-say/tqnjRUEGG2p7WTXuX4eBnN/story.html

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/03/15/westport-church-offers-r ew ard-find-vandals/UGPePreRGluhYaTJd85nvJ/story.html

Not that anyone cares, or that they will be called a "hate crimes", or cause any hand wringing (or even be noticed at all) by the sensitive enlightened crowd.  *Shrug*
 
2013-04-20 12:32:02 AM  

Kittypie070: Fark It 2013-04-20 12:01:43 AM

I posted this in a redlit thread regarding the "public safety" exception to Miranda rights:

"IMO, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaah I'd wather passersby had been shot, undeclared martial law....

[farm4.staticflickr.com image 221x240]



Now that I think about it, I don't think there is anywhere else in the US where you could have done something like this. Imagine them trying this "shelter in place" command in a city with Republicans living in it.  Or blacks, for that matter.
 
2013-04-20 12:32:28 AM  

s2s2s2: And by the way: Atheism is a religion


Yes, and not collecting stamps is a hobby.
 
2013-04-20 12:33:04 AM  
Nice work, guys. Thank you.

img.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-20 12:33:15 AM  

Nadie_AZ: Nadie_AZ: derpy: Grand_Moff_Joseph: ...and the Boston area mosque has already been vandalized

https://twitter.com/Ezaffar/status/325462951777673217/photo/1

"Graffiti at Cambridge, MA Mosque"

Google "Graffiti at Cambridge, MA Mosque"

Whar mosque? Whar?

/I smell cow poopie

I was friends with several muslims in Arlington TX and attended their mosque several times. It was in an old strip mall- the only part of the building still in use. They were trying to raise money to build a nice mosque, but that was still in the fundraising stage.

To add, as a kid, when we lived in Western NY, we attended our mormon church at an old Granger building. They hadn't raised money to build one of those, then, either.

So a non-churchy looking building can still be a church.


Doesn't change the fact that Google knows nothing about a Cambridge mosque.
 
2013-04-20 12:33:15 AM  

Fark It: shower_in_my_socks: doglover: shower_in_my_socks: Maybe you can share with us your professional law enforcement background that makes you such a great judge about whether the ATF, FBI, and police and SWAT in a major US city, were all "amateurs."

He was talking about the terrorists, not the cops, in the sentence you posted.


Fine, but the sentiment of his post was the same. He thinks the law enforcement was "an embarrassment." Well fark him. I'm a bleeding heart liberal, but this what the law enforcement pulled off in Boston these past 24 hours was farking incredible. And playing it down like it was just some "teenager" -- f*ck, man. That d!ckhead maimed 200 farking people, killed a cop, and seriously wounded another one. It's not like they were teenieboppers throwing rocks at windows.

Lee Harvey Oswald was a Marine and shot the president.  He was captured in an hour, without cell phones, FLIR, helicopters, or tanks roaming the streets, and he wasn't lying in a pool of his own blood.


That's only impressive if the situations are exactly the same, they're not.
 
2013-04-20 12:33:26 AM  

illannoyin: Anyone else enjoying the irony that he's being treated at Beth Israel hospital?

Also, large breasted prom date as requested...

[i.imgur.com image 625x838]


Very nice!
 
2013-04-20 12:33:31 AM  

Smirky the Wonder Chimp: I am on my fourth bottle of Abita Abbey Ale, and I want you all to know that I love you all.  Even the trolls.  You know who you are.

[beerandamovie.files.wordpress.com image 333x500]


*burble*
 
2013-04-20 12:33:47 AM  

Fark It: I posted this in a redlit thread regarding the "public safety" exception to Miranda rights:


"IMO, we've suffered enough abuses today, with the undeclared martial law being enforced in the city of Boston and the warrantless house to house searches that were conducted in a 20-block area, when this untrained teenager with serious gunshot wounds hid for 18 hours a couple of blocks from where he ditched his car.
All I hear from Boston and Washington is a bunch of back-slapping and hero worship of the police and DHS.  This was an embarrassment from a law enforcement perspective, if these were actual operatives or people with military training they'd be long gone or would have taken out a lot more people.
A 19-year old college student with no formal training and serious wounds was able to successfully hide from thousands of highly-trained law enforcement "professionals," with their sniffer dogs, helicopters, robots, tanks, and tactical bullshiat for almost a whole day?  Shameful."

These guys were amateurs, and they shut down a major city for a day, while we essentially declared martial law.  And the politicians and police are up on their soapboxes beating their chests and suckin' each other's dicks, and you jingoistic morons are eating it up.  They're amateurs, and they won.

USA! USA! USA!  WE'RE #1


I hear they have a few vacancies in the Czech republic.  Why don't you move there and teach them all your brilliant ideas?
 
2013-04-20 12:34:02 AM  

derpy: Nadie_AZ: Nadie_AZ: derpy: Grand_Moff_Joseph: ...and the Boston area mosque has already been vandalized

https://twitter.com/Ezaffar/status/325462951777673217/photo/1

"Graffiti at Cambridge, MA Mosque"

Google "Graffiti at Cambridge, MA Mosque"

Whar mosque? Whar?

/I smell cow poopie

I was friends with several muslims in Arlington TX and attended their mosque several times. It was in an old strip mall- the only part of the building still in use. They were trying to raise money to build a nice mosque, but that was still in the fundraising stage.

To add, as a kid, when we lived in Western NY, we attended our mormon church at an old Granger building. They hadn't raised money to build one of those, then, either.

So a non-churchy looking building can still be a church.

Doesn't change the fact that Google knows nothing about a Cambridge mosque.


No, no that wouldn't.
 
2013-04-20 12:34:12 AM  

HideAndGoFarkYourself: The freaking media and their perpetuating nonsense of the law.  Not every person arrested is read their Miranda Warnings.  I have arrested probably 1,000 who have never been read their rights.  The ONLY time you have to read somebody their rights, is if they are 1) in custody/not free to leave and 2) are being questioned.

The damn media and police procedural television shows make it seem like a person is arrested for something as simple as driving on a suspended license, and the police officer ALWAYS stands by the back window and reads them their rights, or he reads them as he's dramatically handcuffing him.  That's simply not the case.  If there's no reason to question the guy, there's no reason to Mirandize him. If he wants to sit in the back of the police car and talk and talk and talk and confess, good, let him.  It's ALL admissible as long as he's not prompted by the police to do so.

This guy was likely unconscious, or at the least, debilitated to the point where he couldn't understand/waive his rights anyway when arrested.  It's not like he gets to walk out of the hospital because they didn't immediately Mirandize him.  Rest assured, if he's questioned, he'll be read his rights.

The Public Safety Exception is there to allow officers, facing an imminent threat (like a bomb going off, or a dying person) to forego Miranda in the interest of the greater good.  If the suspect is going to be spending hours or days in the hospital, that exception would not apply.


Yeah, don't get too upset with the morons.  Most of us do know that reading Miranda rights to someone who is at best barely conscious means as little as reading them to someone who is unconscious.  When he is lucid and capable of answering questions he will be read his Miranda rights before any serious questioning begins.
 
2013-04-20 12:34:14 AM  

cretinbob: Tommy Moo: Pretty much. I have never understood why the left in this country is the group that defense these shiatbirds. Everything about Islam fundamentalist Christianity is regressive and right winged. They hate women and homosexuals, view science and modern medicine as human arrogance, and believe that apostasy carries a death sentence.

And that's the "moderate" ones. The only difference between moderate and fundamentalist Muslims is that moderate ones just believe abhorrent, right-winged horseshiat quietly, and aren't actively trying to murder us to spread it.

Yeah, the problem is fundamentalism, not which magic book you read.


"The distinction between 'fundamentalists' and 'moderates' has not really emerged in the Muslim world. Most Muslims are 'fundamentalist' in the sense that they really appear to believe that the Koran is the literal and inerrant word of God. In any case, Islamic fundamentalism is only a problem for us because the fundamentals of Islam are a problem for us. There is a pervasive piece of wishful thinking circulating among religious moderates, and it could get a lot of us killed. The idea is that all religions, at their core, teach the same thing. This is myth. The principal tenet of Jainism is non-harming. Observant Jains will literally not harm a fly. Fundamentalist Jainism and fundamentalist Islam do not have the same consequences, neither logically nor behaviorally. Read the Koran. Osama bin Laden is playing it more or less by the book. Anyone who says that there is no basis for his worldview in the doctrine of Islam is either dangerously ignorant or just dangerous.

"We must hope that the Muslim world is full of moderates who abhor the worldview of Osama bin Laden. But where are they? We cannot just assume that they exist. And the horrible truth is that if they do exist, they will be easily marginalized by their coreligionists."

-Sam Harris
 
2013-04-20 12:34:28 AM  

Yes please: thisisyourbrainonFark: Let us not talk falsely now because the hour is getting late.

/how drunk is Boston?

Let's see, told not to go to work, locked up in the house all day with the apartment, Friday night, Boston, the Sawx and Brooons both had their games postponed, Boston, Friday night, Boston...


Bostonians get hammered with a particular flair. I was up there for a couple days not too long ago. Walking back to hotel, maybe 10pm on a friday. A guy in his 20's wobbles out of a bar, wearing a good-quality suit and tie. Steps precisely to the curb, toes perched just over the edge of the sidewalk. Uses one hand to hold his tie in place, extends the other hand to the side - for balance, I presume - bends forward with the practiced confidence of an executive in Tokyo, and power-barfs into the street. Stands up, straightens jacket, wipes lip with handkerchief, spins, honor-guard style, on his heel, and marches back into the bar.
 
2013-04-20 12:34:36 AM  

Peki: Totally blew me away that they were Russian


Chechen Muslims aren't Russians. Seriously, this thread is full of retards.
 
2013-04-20 12:34:56 AM  

RelativeEase: When does this guy get offered a professorship?


He has to first say that he should have done more.

That seems to be the path.
 
2013-04-20 12:35:08 AM  

xnecron: Please read this before maundering about Miranda, public safety exemptions, and the death of the Republic.


You don't need a Miranda warning to keep your biscuit trap shut.

Knowing how to resist torture is another matter.
 
2013-04-20 12:35:11 AM  

al's hat: Manson is just plain crazy so maybe he's happy but ask the whole "et al" how they feel about life in prison.


Manson may not be all that crazy but is definitely a PR person. I know someone who was an art teacher in Vacaville when Manson was there. He told me he was just a normal person until the cameras rolled or was interviewed.
 
2013-04-20 12:35:22 AM  

HideAndGoFarkYourself: This guy was likely unconscious, or at the least, debilitated to the point where he couldn't understand/waive his rights anyway when arrested


The picture upthread shows a King airway being inserted. Yes, he's unconscious.

One can also be take into custody and not arrested, only to be arrested later and then have the Miranda warning read to them, especially if they have to go to the hospital.

At this point however, who doesn't know the fifth amendment, which is what the Miranda warning addresses.
 
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