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2013-04-19 11:20:35 PM
They've got photos online of the dead brother in the morgue. He got farked up. Very very graphic. Don't have the link, my girlfriend showed me on her phone.
 
2013-04-19 11:20:37 PM
www.trbimg.com
This made me smile when I saw it
 
2013-04-19 11:20:38 PM

zabadu: A reporter on CNN keeps pronouncing ambulance as AM Boo Lance.


I had some bad psghetti at the libary onect and hads to go in the amboolance.  It was very fustrating!
 
2013-04-19 11:20:45 PM
Mark my words. This event is the end of CNN, and the end of Fark. There is nothing of use in either, any more.
 
2013-04-19 11:20:46 PM
for all the threadshiatting underwearonhead retarded dumbfark who clearly are planning on doing something illegal because they are crapping themselves over the Miranda Warning not being read but have no farking clue what they are talking about.......

i36.photobucket.com

Shouldn't even need to be read aymore
 
2013-04-19 11:20:47 PM

Lionel Mandrake: Mad_Radhu: /Seriously, though, I'm cool with the thought of him spending the next 80 years full of regret and sadness. unable to even kill himself to end his sad life. All he has to look forward to is his body slowly decaying away until he dies alone and unloved, haunted by the thoughts of the life he could have had.

That's always struck me as odd...pro-death penalty opponents (many) seem to think that life in jail is somehow less of a punishment than execution...

Which would you prefer, people?  And if it's death you prefer, you'll still be able to achieve that goal with a life sentence.


I find it amusing when they get mad because a person took the cowards way out and killed themselves before being arrested, and somehow also denied them the satisfaction of seeing them killed.
 
2013-04-19 11:20:51 PM

Lenny_da_Hog: It's just like sports!

It's something I had nothing to do with, doesn't affect me at all, but since it's reported in the media and I rooted for a side, I'm a winner!

Now, show me an ad to convince me to buy some beer!


Chocolate Rambo was better because both sides of that one that fairly loyal fanbases.  I'm not about to go start a fist after the game because my Chechen Death Squad got blown by the Boston IRA.  This is like when you play Duke or something and the entire arena is rooting against them.
 
2013-04-19 11:21:04 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: ongbok: Can't wait for the movie.

Who'll play his prom date?


Kim Kardashian
 
2013-04-19 11:21:10 PM
Hope we're done with this shiat for a while. Tired of people being hateful and ugly. Still can't take ponies, though. Good night to all. have a beer on me.
 
2013-04-19 11:21:18 PM
Justice for Boston!
 
2013-04-19 11:21:19 PM

Olfin Bedwere: Lionel Mandrake: Mad_Radhu: /Seriously, though, I'm cool with the thought of him spending the next 80 years full of regret and sadness. unable to even kill himself to end his sad life. All he has to look forward to is his body slowly decaying away until he dies alone and unloved, haunted by the thoughts of the life he could have had.

That's always struck me as odd...pro-death penalty opponents (many) seem to think that life in jail is somehow less of a punishment than execution...

Which would you prefer, people?  And if it's death you prefer, you'll still be able to achieve that goal with a life sentence.

Life in prison is not a pleasant alternative.


Exactly my point.  Die now?, or spend years or decades in a tiny cage and then die?
 
2013-04-19 11:21:20 PM
Can I get a what what
 
2013-04-19 11:21:35 PM

dennysgod: Clark W Griswald: scottydoesntknow: Clark W Griswald: US. Taking your rights away one nut bag at a time.

What rights were taken away?

Shutting down boston and all the future US cities to come. It's a precedent now and will continue in the future whether you believe it or not.

It was the local cops that SHUT DOWN ANYTHING and local authority shutting down parts, if not all of a town, is nothing new, happens quite often in winter after a major snow storm, or in other areas where other natural and sometime man-made disasters happen.

Hell just a few weeks ago they shut down Duluth because of a snow storm, told everybody to stay indoors and told outsiders to stay out. So no precedent was set today.


THANKS, SNOBAMA!
 
2013-04-19 11:21:56 PM
Anybody else think that the conspiracy types will use the fact that he was taken alive as proof of the conspiracy? I imagine something along the lines of "he couldn't REALLY have eluded the police for that long, they were in on it, they let him stay out there to make the whole thing look real and then got the signal it was okay to capture him and then magically knew where he was. Isn't it awfully convenient that the owner of the boat just happened to step out into his own back yard?

But if he had been killed, I'm sure it would be "well, they had to kill him, they couldn't take the chance of him talking and revealing the conspiracy, the poor patsy had to die."

It what I hate about them. Every single thing is a conspiracy and and every single thing is evidence of the conspiracy.
 
2013-04-19 11:22:06 PM

torquestripe: And I want YOU to pay to house him in prison for the rest of his miserable life. Execution is the fiscally responsible way out.
Please tell me why this shiat stain deserves to live. Please!


Except it isn't. When you calculate in the price of the necessary appeals (and they're necessary) the death penalty is crazy expensive, more than regular prison.

It's not about this guy deserving to live or not, though. Death penalty or not is about whether the state might accidentally execute innocent people, and sadly the answer is "vastly probably yes" and so... it's a fence, to say, don't execute people.

But, this isn't the thread for it, so I'll shut up now.
 
2013-04-19 11:22:20 PM

Silly Jesus: GAT_00: Jesterling: worlddan: High Fives for what? Near as I can tell it was a lot of wasted tax dollars. The police didn't even find him, some guy checking his yard did. Just think, if the police hadn't scared the hell out of everyone and so they stayed inside he would have been found hours ago. Well, more overtime for all the police; I can't wait to see the bill on that. I bet the police union will want a new contract now. For nothing. If these dimwits bombers had even half a brain they never would have been caught be these stooges.

EMBARRASSING

[www.charlock.org image 571x570]

An entire city's police force failed to find a guy hiding in a boat 5 miles away from where they lost him the first time, and that's after taking away the rights of the entire city of Boston.  It's amazing how badly this was handled.

[f.kulfoto.com image 630x473]


Embarrassing as hotlinking and getting caught?
That Jesus, he's so silly.
 
2013-04-19 11:22:24 PM

theknuckler_33: I can NOT believe you are forcing me to agree with goofysavior. Dude... This was handled just about as well as could have possibly been expected. Seriously, what exactly was badly handled?


First, a random person was held on the ground for 15 minutes, allowing this guy to escape in the first place because they let their net collapse.  Then, after running in circles all night, they lost him, so they decided to more or less declare martial law in Boston.  Then, they proceeded to execute warrantless searches of Watertown, which completely failed to find the guy that was 5 miles away from where he was lost and hiding in a boat the entire time, and was found by said boat's owner.  Not one single thing the police did from the time he went to ground until the time he was found by the boat's owner was worth anything.

The only positive in all of this is the BPD didn't kill any random people.
 
2013-04-19 11:22:36 PM

etherknot: [ih1.redbubble.net image 550x547]

Ok. Are we done now? Can we stop these threads? Ok?


You're free to leave. Should I show you the door?
 
2013-04-19 11:22:46 PM

Gyrfalcon: Stone Meadow said in the last thread, "This is the new face of radical Islam...pretend to be well-integrated citizens while you plot to blow up shiat."  I dunno about anyone else, but I thought plotting to blow up shiat was an ingrained part of American culture since time immemorial, so that alone would tend to demonstrate you've integrated well.  (tl;dr: are you a radical Islamist, a redneck, or a patriot? hard to tell)

They may have "integrated well"--but not too wisely. Usually it's better, if you're a radical extremist, to make people aware of your cause FIRST, and THEN blow something up. It's generally counterproductive to blow something up first and only then discover that nobody in your target area has the first clue about "Chechnya? Where the f*ck is Chechnya? Is that part of China?"


Actually, now it turns out that the FBI watched the elder brother for years (Source) as he slowly radicalized himself into a jihadist. Visiting Russia (and likely Chechens there); hanging on forums with them, and spending hours on Skype with them. He was a bomber looking for a place to happen. Because of this event I wouldn't want to be any of the many young disaffected Muslims in America on the FBI's close-watch list. Those guys will no longer get the benefit of the doubt...they'll be getting one-way airline tickets 'home'.
 
2013-04-19 11:23:11 PM

Phins: Novart: Didn't something happen in Texas recently, a guy lost his fertilizer or something?
     
DamnYankees: Exactly - way more death and destruction there. But we dont care as much since there isn't an enemy to label and worry about.

 Via Infinito: Do you really not get the difference? People in Texas don't need to do a city-wide manhunt to stop marauding fertilizer plants from exploding.

The initial explosion was national news but it's really a local story at this point. There's about a 99% chance this was an industrial accident. It really only affects the people nearby and their loved ones. Now if it does turn out that it was a terrorist attack, it's national news again.

I'm in Texas and it's still a major story here and we care very much. People are giving blood and raising money and donating supplies.

The Marathon bombing is a national story. It's a premier sporting event that draws people from around the country and all over the world. This was a terrorist attack on U.S. soil, an attack on the entire U.S. and it affects everyone in the country.


All true, but if several hundred children had been killed in that school a few hundred feet away from the plant we'd be hearing a lot more about the West explosion, predictable accident or not.  It's all about what they can sensationalize.
 
2013-04-19 11:23:23 PM

Lionel Mandrake: Olfin Bedwere: Lionel Mandrake: Mad_Radhu: /Seriously, though, I'm cool with the thought of him spending the next 80 years full of regret and sadness. unable to even kill himself to end his sad life. All he has to look forward to is his body slowly decaying away until he dies alone and unloved, haunted by the thoughts of the life he could have had.

That's always struck me as odd...pro-death penalty opponents (many) seem to think that life in jail is somehow less of a punishment than execution...

Which would you prefer, people?  And if it's death you prefer, you'll still be able to achieve that goal with a life sentence.

Life in prison is not a pleasant alternative.

Exactly my point.  Die now?, or spend years or decades in a tiny cage and then die?


Well most people say they don't want to spend the tax dollars keeping them alive (next someone will post a graphic showing it costs more to execute, that's not my point). I'd like to see him rot in prison, too. No voice to the outside, no contact. Just having to constantly watch his back because everyone at the Supermax will know what he did.
 
2013-04-19 11:23:33 PM

Bonanza Jellybean: I hope dude's totes adorbs kitty is okay (from his twitter):

[pbs.twimg.com image 448x600][pbs.twimg.com image 448x600]


I'd adopt that kitty in a hearbeat.  I wouldn't even rename it something crass like Pipebomb.

/Probably go for Ariadne
 
2013-04-19 11:23:35 PM

silgryphon: Can I get a what what


What what?
 
2013-04-19 11:23:40 PM

worlddan: theknuckler_33:
What is your criteria for this? You didn't exactly offer any justification in your post.

Well, first there is the question of how the hell did the suspect escape from the first shootout to begin with? They have the guy pinned down with live fire! That is bumbling. Period.


Oh... glad to know you were there. I guess the fact that they were tossing bombs out the window didn't hinder the pursuit at all.

Second, we also need to look at their tactical response. They have a wounded suspect, mostly likely on foot, who has been leaving a blood trail and their response is to shut the whole area down. That is panic.Pure and simple. It reflected no logic, no use of tactical intelligence, and was massive overkill for a guy who spent all day passed out in a boat. Their solution was simply brutish. Worse, as it turns out, the whole lock down backfired because if the citizen had felt free to roan his property sooner the suspect would have been found sooner. Again, massive bumbling.

All day passed out in a boat? Where'd you get that from?

All well that ends well. But the fact is that should give one a sense of relief, not jumping for joy with ponies.

Basically, you know nothing about how things went down.
 
2013-04-19 11:23:44 PM

John Paul Jones: Mark my words. This event is the end of CNN, and the end of Fark. There is nothing of use in either, any more.


Fertilizer truck explosion dad does not approve.
 
2013-04-19 11:24:01 PM

GAT_00: The only positive in all of this is the BPD didn't kill any random people.


Today.
 
2013-04-19 11:24:02 PM

IlGreven: You're a little off tonight, GAT. he didn't say that at all. In fact, he said just the opposite.


He said Miranda isn't necessary to be read because the rights exist in the first place.  If that's the case, what exactly is the reason Miranda exists?  It exists to be sure you know your rights.  To not read them defeats the entire point.
 
2013-04-19 11:24:12 PM

John Paul Jones: Mark my words. This event is the end of CNN, and the end of Fark. There is nothing of use in either, any more.


bie?

eip
 
2013-04-19 11:24:18 PM

Shyla: Maximer: So... on an aside... My wife is Russian and she is royally pissed that the media is saying the Chechens are Russians. Whether you agree or not, the Russian people want nothing to do with these people (the bombers) or the Chechens in general.

Except when Chechnya broke apart from Russia and Russia re-invaded them to take control of them. Sounds like *someone* in Russia wants a part of them.

============

There's nothing much of value in Chechnya.   The entire place is an ass-backward clusterfark.  The Russians refer to the Chechens, and most everyone else in the Caucasuses,  as "black asses".   The Russians don't want to lose any territory, even if it is worthless, because it sets a bad example, and there are places near Chechnya that have oil.........lots of it.  They don;t want anyone else to get any ideas.
 
2013-04-19 11:24:33 PM

ongbok: Can't wait for the movie.


Starring Ben Afleck and Matt Damon.
Serious kudos to LEO for apprehending the scumbag alive.
GOOD JORB!
 
2013-04-19 11:24:41 PM

GAT_00: theknuckler_33: I can NOT believe you are forcing me to agree with goofysavior. Dude... This was handled just about as well as could have possibly been expected. Seriously, what exactly was badly handled?

First, a random person was held on the ground for 15 minutes, allowing this guy to escape in the first place because they let their net collapse.  Then, after running in circles all night, they lost him, so they decided to more or less declare martial law in Boston.  Then, they proceeded to execute warrantless searches of Watertown, which completely failed to find the guy that was 5 miles away from where he was lost and hiding in a boat the entire time, and was found by said boat's owner.  Not one single thing the police did from the time he went to ground until the time he was found by the boat's owner was worth anything.

The only positive in all of this is the BPD didn't kill any random people.


notsureifpotato.jpg
 
2013-04-19 11:24:45 PM
I just had to call the Boston Police over a domestic dispute next door. Woman was cryscreaming something about "you just hit me for the fourth farking time" or something. Cop had the look on his face when he showed up of "looks like we're back to this shiat again," like he'd rather be hunting terrorists.
 
2013-04-19 11:24:51 PM

itazurakko: Well, good. Hopefully he recovers fully and can answer at least part of "WTF??? were you thinking????"

I suspect his brother was "born again" and hatched some plan (likely alone, but who knows) and sucked little brother into it, but hopefully however it turns out to have been, we find out.


We'll never know for sure. He'll probably say big bro sucked him in, but big bro ain't around to offer his version. This one gets the needle and the truth dies with him.
 
2013-04-19 11:24:59 PM

GAT_00: Gyrfalcon: GAT_00: Gyrfalcon: Long answer: Yes, because Miranda is only to ADVISE you of your rights. Your rights are guaranteed in the constitution. The Miranda warning is only given because (based on the case) some people are unaware of their rights, or not aware they have them, or not given the option to exercise them--but you always have them, because the 5th and 6th Amendment are always in play. If this kid wakes up from surgery and they start talking to him and he says "STFU, go away, I want a lawyer," then even if they haven't read his rights, they have to STFU and go away. They don't get to say "Ha ha! You don't have any rights yet because we didn't read them to you!"

I like how you went to "you have rights, and Miranda is there to make sure you know them" to "that's why nobody has to tell you your rights with Miranda!"

Don't you have to go tell the Joint Chiefs of Staff how to run a war or something? Or direct cleanup operations in West, TX? We don't need you here.

You're being a douchebag, why?

Your logic is inconsistent.  Just because you have rights, does not mean you are necessarily aware of them.  That's why you get read them, to make SURE you know you have them.


To answer your juvenile question, nobody has to GIVE you your rights, because rights cannot be given. They exist. Miranda rights are read to make sure you "know" them, but if your rights are not "read" to you does  not mean that you don't have them. Police cannot refuse to give you a lawyer, or stop questioning you when you demand, because they haven't read you your rights.

Now, do you understand the distinction I am making here, which is that regardless of whether our suspect has had his Miranda rights read or not, he still has the right to terminate questioning if he so chooses? The reason they are opting not to read him his rights now is so that they can talk to him and hopefully get some actionable intel out of him, with the full knowledge it won't be usable in court--but that doesn't mean he can't stop talking if he wants to.

As to why I'm being unpleasant, well, you can figure that out on your own too.
 
2013-04-19 11:25:15 PM

Lionel Mandrake: Olfin Bedwere: Lionel Mandrake: Mad_Radhu: /Seriously, though, I'm cool with the thought of him spending the next 80 years full of regret and sadness. unable to even kill himself to end his sad life. All he has to look forward to is his body slowly decaying away until he dies alone and unloved, haunted by the thoughts of the life he could have had.

That's always struck me as odd...pro-death penalty opponents (many) seem to think that life in jail is somehow less of a punishment than execution...

Which would you prefer, people?  And if it's death you prefer, you'll still be able to achieve that goal with a life sentence.

Life in prison is not a pleasant alternative.

Exactly my point.  Die now?, or spend years or decades in a tiny cage and then die?


It's a hard call. I've dealt with life-term inmates who don't even remember committing their crimes. There's no easy decision there at all.
 
2013-04-19 11:25:18 PM
I think we'll all be a little disappointed if they police don't find an AR-15 among the suspects' possessions.
 
2013-04-19 11:25:20 PM

BullBearMS: skullkrusher: his farkhead - HOLY CRAP IT'S GONNA BE DIFF... nah, it'll be a real court of law trial

Just like all those people in Gitmo and our much larger political prison in Afghanistan got?


Who are all these American citizens who committed crimes on American soil that in in Gitmo and Afghanistan?  Go away troll.
 
2013-04-19 11:25:34 PM

thisisyourbrainonFark: Goddamn, Boston is partying! Last MSNBC segment was hilarious, couldn't hear the reporter at all.


maddow is coming back at midnight for more live partying coverage.
 
2013-04-19 11:25:49 PM

SubBass49: zabadu: A reporter on CNN keeps pronouncing ambulance as AM Boo Lance.

AMBER LAMPS!!!  Call tha AMBER LAMPS!!!


Assbulance?
 
2013-04-19 11:25:55 PM
so it was Islam, then?
 
2013-04-19 11:26:00 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-04-19 11:26:01 PM

Sgt Oddball: Hope we're done with this shiat for a while. Tired of people being hateful and ugly. Still can't take ponies, though. Good night to all. have a beer on me.


Fark is full of cop and government haters and people who complain if an official anything asks them to do something.

Have a great night, and come back tomorrow for more ponies.
 
2013-04-19 11:26:09 PM

Agarista: Was the boat within the 20-block lockdown area?


No.
 
2013-04-19 11:26:10 PM

dennysgod: Clark W Griswald: scottydoesntknow: Clark W Griswald: US. Taking your rights away one nut bag at a time.

What rights were taken away?

Shutting down boston and all the future US cities to come. It's a precedent now and will continue in the future whether you believe it or not.

It was the local cops that SHUT DOWN ANYTHING and local authority shutting down parts, if not all of a town, is nothing new, happens quite often in winter after a major snow storm, or in other areas where other natural and sometime man-made disasters happen.

Hell just a few weeks ago they shut down Duluth because of a snow storm, told everybody to stay indoors and told outsiders to stay out. So no precedent was set today.


Wasn't even the Boston.  It was Watertown that shut down.  Boston was open, except for the 15 block crime scene.  It was dead because the MBTA coordinated with state officials and shut down to limit the suspects options to leave Watertown.

Boston?  Anyone who wanted to could drive in.  Some people still went to work, but most said "fark it 3 day weekend" and watching this interesting thing on TV.

Charlestown, North End, Southie, Dot, Roxie?  All bumping today and BAU.  Same with Someville and Medford.  Places with lots of offices were dead, cause everyone took the day off, not because they were locked inside.

Here's a hint folks, the media probably isn't reporting right on the places they're not.  They can barley get it right on the places they in and focused on!
 
2013-04-19 11:26:25 PM
Now we can move on to the Mike Mulugeta lawsuits.  These should be fun, I hope he destroys a few careers.
 
2013-04-19 11:26:40 PM

Yes please: Phins: Novart: Didn't something happen in Texas recently, a guy lost his fertilizer or something?

DamnYankees: Exactly - way more death and destruction there. But we dont care as much since there isn't an enemy to label and worry about.

 Via Infinito: Do you really not get the difference? People in Texas don't need to do a city-wide manhunt to stop marauding fertilizer plants from exploding.

The initial explosion was national news but it's really a local story at this point. There's about a 99% chance this was an industrial accident. It really only affects the people nearby and their loved ones. Now if it does turn out that it was a terrorist attack, it's national news again.

I'm in Texas and it's still a major story here and we care very much. People are giving blood and raising money and donating supplies.

The Marathon bombing is a national story. It's a premier sporting event that draws people from around the country and all over the world. This was a terrorist attack on U.S. soil, an attack on the entire U.S. and it affects everyone in the country.

All true, but if several hundred children had been killed in that school a few hundred feet away from the plant we'd be hearing a lot more about the West explosion, predictable accident or not.  It's all about what they can sensationalize.


If this Boston incident wasn't going on. The West explosion would've been the only thing the media talked about all week.

This was the one week where they weren't the lead story.
 
2013-04-19 11:26:55 PM

John Paul Jones: Mark my words. This event is the end of CNN, and the end of Fark. There is nothing of use in either, any more.


CNN *is* going to have a hard time living this down.

/Reliable Sources might actually be interesting this weekend
 
2013-04-19 11:26:56 PM

torquestripe: Glenford: Revek: Crap they took him  alive.

I want this prick to live the rest of his life behind bars. Death is the easy way out.

And I want YOU to pay to house him in prison for the rest of his miserable life. Execution is the fiscally responsible way out.
Please tell me why this shiat stain deserves to live. Please!


I can't be bothered to find a citation but I've heard/read multiple times that a person sentenced to life in prison is significantly less expensive than the process involved in a death sentence and execution.  Besides, sometimes a life sentence ends up being pretty short...just ask Jeffery Dahmer...oh wait, you can't.
 
2013-04-19 11:26:59 PM
i hope they cut his legs off so he can see how it feels to live without legs the rest of his long long life.
 
2013-04-19 11:27:09 PM
Good speech by Obama so far.
 
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