irishman4: liberals piss me off.
mainstreet62: *offer not valid when the Patriots play the New York Giants in the Super Bowl.
Lee Jackson Beauregard: Glenford: Revek: Crap they took him alive.I want this prick to live the rest of his life behind bars. Death is the easy way out.That, and there's the "72 virgins" factor. Of course the ones that died are going to find that "paradise" has a much hotter climate than they bargained for, but the idea of martyrdom will still motivate the next idiot who wants to kill some infidels.
Kittypie070: VAW-116 Hawkeye Squadron's video of Outkast's Hey YaDJ Kittypie here with....a party tune from the recent past, going out this evening to the Boston Police Department, the citizens of the city of Boston, the great state of Massachusets, the runners of the Boston Marathon, the FBI, and lastly, in the final position of honour, to the students, staff and police force of the Massachusets Institute of Technology. Y'all know who I'm talkin' about.Let the grieving find strength in knowing that joy will return in its proper time.Let the joyous celebrate mightily.Let the fools wonder WTF is going on....and....Let the light of justice ennoble the land.
thisisyourbrainonFark: TommyymmoT: skinink: One of my heroes for today:[img607.imageshack.us image 800x742]Absolutely!Seconded.
wombatsrus: [c.o0bg.com image 425x637]I blame the hipsters.
skullkrusher: Via Infinito: skullkrusher: BullBearMS: skullkrusher: his farkhead - HOLY CRAP IT'S GONNA BE DIFF... nah, it'll be a real court of law trialJust like all those people in Gitmo and our much larger political prison in Afghanistan got?I wonder if there's a difference. Maybe you can help me out. What's different between the cases I listed and people in Gitmo? Do we flip a coin to decide if they get US civilian courts or Gitmo or is there some different mechanism at work?OOH I know!!!! *raises hand* PICK ME!!!!yes, Miss Infinito?
lowrez: He has probably lost a lot of blood. They should consider surgically removing his arms & legs to save his life.
megalynn44: As someone who has been out all evening and is unaware of any details other that "we got him", can someone please sum up what has happened?How did they figure out he was in the boat?Did he surrender or was he caught? I though I saw a snipet of video showing a flag waved from a boat but have no context of it.Did he start shooting at them/ Why did they have to shoot him in order to arrest him?Other than the fact that he is in serious condition do we know anything else?Did he speak with police at any time before they apprehended him?
Bonanza Jellybean: mainstreet62: *offer not valid when the Patriots play the New York Giants in the Super Bowl.Ha ha. That is never getting old./Giants fan
Gyrfalcon: Long answer: Yes, because Miranda is only to ADVISE you of your rights. Your rights are guaranteed in the constitution. The Miranda warning is only given because (based on the case) some people are unaware of their rights, or not aware they have them, or not given the option to exercise them--but you always have them, because the 5th and 6th Amendment are always in play. If this kid wakes up from surgery and they start talking to him and he says "STFU, go away, I want a lawyer," then even if they haven't read his rights, they have to STFU and go away. They don't get to say "Ha ha! You don't have any rights yet because we didn't read them to you!"
Mrtraveler01: Awesome, now that this is done, my local news is telling me that the rivers near me (Mississippi River) are about to flood.
Clark W Griswald: scottydoesntknow: Clark W Griswald: US. Taking your rights away one nut bag at a time.What rights were taken away?Shutting down boston and all the future US cities to come. It's a precedent now and will continue in the future whether you believe it or not.
TommyymmoT: skinink: One of my heroes for today:[img607.imageshack.us image 800x742]Absolutely!
SundaesChild: Bonanza Jellybean: I hope dude's totes adorbs kitty is okay (from his twitter):[pbs.twimg.com image 448x600][pbs.twimg.com image 448x600]It that really his cat? I want it. It doesn't look like a terrorist.
Mad_Radhu: /Seriously, though, I'm cool with the thought of him spending the next 80 years full of regret and sadness. unable to even kill himself to end his sad life. All he has to look forward to is his body slowly decaying away until he dies alone and unloved, haunted by the thoughts of the life he could have had.
Lerxst2k: This was the best season of '24' ever!/seriously, I'm glad they got this guy alive; hope he can still talk
GAT_00: Gyrfalcon: Long answer: Yes, because Miranda is only to ADVISE you of your rights. Your rights are guaranteed in the constitution. The Miranda warning is only given because (based on the case) some people are unaware of their rights, or not aware they have them, or not given the option to exercise them--but you always have them, because the 5th and 6th Amendment are always in play. If this kid wakes up from surgery and they start talking to him and he says "STFU, go away, I want a lawyer," then even if they haven't read his rights, they have to STFU and go away. They don't get to say "Ha ha! You don't have any rights yet because we didn't read them to you!"I like how you went to "you have rights, and Miranda is there to make sure you know them" to "that's why nobody has to tell you your rights with Miranda!"
RenownedCurator: Short answer: oil. The whole situation is a longstanding clusterfark. But it's true that there's a big ethnic and cultural gap there; I'm pretty sure these guys (well, the one remaining guy) wouldn't be happy to be described as Russian either.
jaylectricity: I wonder if the "playing possum" press conference lulled the suspect into a sense of comfort.
scottydoesntknow: Clark W Griswald: scottydoesntknow: Clark W Griswald: US. Taking your rights away one nut bag at a time.What rights were taken away?Shutting down boston and all the future US cities to come. It's a precedent now and will continue in the future whether you believe it or not.Seriously? Who else is biatching about the actions taken besides you? You don't even live here, why's it such a concern?
DamnYankees: To repeat, Obama saying terrorists failed because Boston refused to be intimidated and we refused to be terrorized.Give me a farking break. We cowered, just like we do at the mere thought of all terrorism. 2 kids set of a couple bombs and we competely shut down a major city, divert the national attention, deploy insane amounts of resources and top it all off by not Mirandizing the guy.I'm honestly sickened right now and the 'celebrating' all this crap.I wish I had more confidence, but we're knowingly letting innocent people starve to death in Gitmo and we not only don't help them, but a majority of AMericans probably are happy to see them die even though the US government has officially proclaimed them innocent.Label someone a terrorist in this country and I have zero confidence in our rule of law.
Lionel Mandrake: Mad_Radhu: /Seriously, though, I'm cool with the thought of him spending the next 80 years full of regret and sadness. unable to even kill himself to end his sad life. All he has to look forward to is his body slowly decaying away until he dies alone and unloved, haunted by the thoughts of the life he could have had.That's always struck me as odd...pro-death penalty opponents (many) seem to think that life in jail is somehow less of a punishment than execution...Which would you prefer, people? And if it's death you prefer, you'll still be able to achieve that goal with a life sentence.
worlddan: theknuckler_33:What is your criteria for this? You didn't exactly offer any justification in your post.Well, first there is the question of how the hell did the suspect escape from the first shootout to begin with? They have the guy pinned down with live fire! That is bumbling. Period. Second, we also need to look at their tactical response. They have a wounded suspect, mostly likely on foot, who has been leaving a blood trail and their response is to shut the whole area down. That is panic. Pure and simple. It reflected no logic, no use of tactical intelligence, and was massive overkill for a guy who spent all day passed out in a boat. Their solution was simply brutish. Worse, as it turns out, the whole lock down backfired because if the citizen had felt free to roan his property sooner the suspect would have been found sooner. Again, massive bumbling.All well that ends well. But the fact is that should give one a sense of relief, not jumping for joy with ponies.
al's hat: BullBearMS: al's hat: So are you suggesting a stoning in front of the Old State House?I'm suggesting we follow our own laws. We've shown a disturbing unwillingness to do that under Bush and now Obama.We're on the same page I think. Arrest, try, hopefully convict, and then sentence. It's possible that there is some confusion in replies to parent comments going on. I've seen a few odd things when trying to reply to comments this evening.
GAT_00: Jesterling: worlddan: High Fives for what? Near as I can tell it was a lot of wasted tax dollars. The police didn't even find him, some guy checking his yard did. Just think, if the police hadn't scared the hell out of everyone and so they stayed inside he would have been found hours ago. Well, more overtime for all the police; I can't wait to see the bill on that. I bet the police union will want a new contract now. For nothing. If these dimwits bombers had even half a brain they never would have been caught be these stooges.EMBARRASSING[www.charlock.org image 571x570]An entire city's police force failed to find a guy hiding in a boat 5 miles away from where they lost him the first time, and that's after taking away the rights of the entire city of Boston. It's amazing how badly this was handled.
Glenford: Revek: Crap they took him alive.I want this prick to live the rest of his life behind bars. Death is the easy way out.
DamnYankees: Novart: Didn't something happen in Texas recently, a guy lost his fertilizer or something?Exactly - way more death and destruction there. But we dont care as much since there isn't an enemy to label and worry about.
Lenny_da_Hog: It's just like sports!It's something I had nothing to do with, doesn't affect me at all, but since it's reported in the media and I rooted for a side, I'm a winner!Now, show me an ad to convince me to buy some beer!
ha-ha-guy: firefly212: ha-ha-guy: firefly212: I still say we should extradite him to China and let them try him for killing a Chinese national (and he can serve out his sentence) before coming back here to be tried for his crimes against US citizens. It'd be a show of good will on our part, and a demonstration by China that wherever their citizens are, the Chinese government will protect them as much as possible under the law.Unless that girl was the daughter of some official, quite possible given she was able to come overseas for education, the Chinese government gives roughly zero shiats about this, aside from using it as domestic PR about how America is still the wild west and barely civilized.They give two shiats about looking serious about being a superpower, and being able to protect their citizens even when they're abroad.They want global influence, and I think this would be a nice way to give them some.If he falls into their hands, they'll put a bullet in his head, but they're not going to make some spectacle out of it. You talk about how they want status and all that, they'd just talk about how we didn't have the balls to give the the guy the needle, so they had to do it for us and flex their muscles. They'd see zero gain from killing him over one dead and one wounded Chinese girl. Just some perks from making us look pussy whipped./I mean they bury the train cars on sight to hide how many people died, human life is seen as cheap in China
Phins: There's about a 99% chance this [West, Texas fertilizer plant explosion] was an industrial accident.
J. Frank Parnell: thatboyoverthere: and is on tape dropping the bomb is more then enough.Has anyone actually seen this tape of them dropping off the bombs? Do you think we ever will?
ongbok: Can't wait for the movie.
zabadu: A reporter on CNN keeps pronouncing ambulance as AM Boo Lance.
Phins: Novart: Didn't something happen in Texas recently, a guy lost his fertilizer or something?DamnYankees: Exactly - way more death and destruction there. But we dont care as much since there isn't an enemy to label and worry about. Via Infinito: Do you really not get the difference? People in Texas don't need to do a city-wide manhunt to stop marauding fertilizer plants from exploding.The initial explosion was national news but it's really a local story at this point. There's about a 99% chance this was an industrial accident. It really only affects the people nearby and their loved ones. Now if it does turn out that it was a terrorist attack, it's national news again.I'm in Texas and it's still a major story here and we care very much. People are giving blood and raising money and donating supplies.The Marathon bombing is a national story. It's a premier sporting event that draws people from around the country and all over the world. This was a terrorist attack on U.S. soil, an attack on the entire U.S. and it affects everyone in the country.
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