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2013-04-19 10:38:58 PM

DamnYankees: sheep snorter: lest we forget about other acts of domestic terrorism, before everyone got paranoid due to the pRopaganda party
April 19 1995

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And I don't recall us shutting down OKC for the day.


Different terrorists have different modus operandi... Mc Veigh had a govt target.. this guy was tossing bombs out his car window. And may have been setting ieds all over the city.
 
2013-04-19 10:39:05 PM
Oh look, he is out of the hospital already
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2013-04-19 10:39:10 PM

Biological Ali: DamnYankees: by not Mirandizing the guy.

Someone on MSNBC mentioned something about a limited exception for immediate danger, where the cops can ask about things like explosives in the vicinity without having to Mirandize him first. Not sure what the exact legal details are but from what they said it seemed reasonable enough.


Mirandizing is only for information that they can use in trials.  Asking them heat-of-the-moment questions really doesn't qualify as that, because they're using it for an immediate purpose, not a trial.  Not Mirandizing someone just means you can't use anything they say against them or others in a court of law, as the warning explicitly states.
 
2013-04-19 10:39:10 PM

Via Infinito: Do you really not get the difference? People in Texas don't need to do a city-wide manhunt to stop marauding fertilizer plants from exploding.


But you can be damn sure the Texans will try to put one in the electric chair.
 
2013-04-19 10:39:13 PM

Scorpinock: Does anyone know if he had more rhymes than the Bible has psalms?


http://www.youtube.com/w atch?v=ZbbxA8a_M_s
 
2013-04-19 10:39:15 PM

Here's this hour's freeper poutrage:

Obama Refused to deport Muslim Boston Bomber after 2009 criminal conviction violated immigration rules

"Tamerlan Tsarnaev, the 26-year-old killed in a wild shootout with police, was a legal U.S. resident who nevertheless could have been removed from the country after a 2009 domestic violence arrest and conviction, according to a Judicial Watch source."

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2013-04-19 10:39:17 PM
"Tessie, "Nuf Ced" McGreevey shouted
We're not here to mess around
Boston, you know we love you madly
Hear the crowd roar to your sound
Don't blame us if we ever doubt you
You know we couldn't live without you "
 
2013-04-19 10:39:27 PM

DamnYankees: Via Infinito: Do you really not get the difference? People in Texas don't need to do a city-wide manhunt to stop marauding fertilizer plants from exploding.

No, there's no manhunt - but how about inspecting other plants to make sure they don't blow? Would that not be extremely effective at stopping people from actually dying?


Great. More job-killing regulation. Obviously West was an Obama false-flag operation.
 
2013-04-19 10:39:29 PM
This may have been posted earlier, but it's kind of hard to look back and find things.
Supposedly, this is his real twitter.

https://twitter.com/J_tsar
 
2013-04-19 10:39:39 PM
I have the name of the boat, "Slip Away II"
 
2013-04-19 10:39:49 PM

fragMasterFlash: NotoriousFire: Frantic Freddie: They'll take very good care of him now & make sure he gets the best medical treatment they can give him,they want him alive & in good shape so he can be interrogated.

American taxpayer dollars put to use. Super...

How much $ do think has already been spent on the investigation? How much tax revenue lost due to shutting down the greater Boston area? Hint: LOTS.


How many lives does it take to make it a 'worthwhile' option?  Should there be a specific body count before we send in tax funded local and Federal resources?  25 or over?
 
2013-04-19 10:39:56 PM

yukichigai: The feds can legally question him about things which are of an immediate concern to public safety, like say all those damn bombs he and his brother scattered around the place. None of what they ask him can be used in court, and if they stray away from questions concerning public safety the feds can have the crap sued out of them.


Not quite true.  If they ask him about, say, the location of other bombs, and he tells them where there are other bombs, his statements may certainly be used in court (and so can any other devices found based on his statements) - that's the whole reason it's considered an exception to Miranda.  For that matter, if they ask him about the location of other bombs, and he blurts out some unrelated statement/confession about his previous activities (or some other topic that would not, itself, be within the public safety exception), that statement would likely be admissible as well.
 
2013-04-19 10:39:59 PM

DamnYankees: Chief_ Danz153A: But "starving to death" is not something that happens there unless some innocent/guilty prisoner hunger strikes.

There is currently a hunger strike at Gitmo. Were you not aware of that?


I commend them on their freedom of choice.  Hunger strikes come and go.  Honestly I could care less.  Why?  It is not your captor's fault that you don't pick up the damn spoon and eat.  What I do care about, and what is actually important about that whole shindig is:

1.  lengthy imprisonment without charge or trial.
2.  Me clearly taking that trollbait you hung out there, and chomping down on it so hard, I break my own teeth.

Meh.  Don't care.  The found (a very guilty-acting) "Suspect #2."  *AND* They got him alive.  That checks two of my "happy-as-hell" boxes.

It will hopefully sate my curiosity as to "Why?" as well as hopefully producing (surely too lengthy of a process of) justice.  Out legal system is terrible... which is worth than death as far as I am concerned.
 
2013-04-19 10:40:00 PM
So glad we found these assholes, even if one is dead and we didnt' have togo through that chasing around bullshiat like we did with that ex cop gone pshyco in California earlier this year.

Now we really sadly have to bury the dead of those poor people and fireman in texas. What a shiatty week this has been for us all.....
 
2013-04-19 10:40:12 PM
That's right, muthafarka, it's ovah!

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2013-04-19 10:40:17 PM

Novart: r1niceboy: I'm astonished by how little the media in this country know about the ethnic Chechen nationalists. By the time the information about the survivor's political and religious beliefs are known and available, people won't care and will be back to wondering what Kim Kardashian will name her crotch fruit. I'm glad they got him alive, and am curious to see how someone who came to the US when they were a child could become radicalized.

This would be a good opportunity to learn why some people feel they must become a terrorist. We won't learn it though if there's something shiny to look at elsewhere.

You know what's really sad about the Chechen rebels?

They were secular. All they wanted was freedom for their people.Russia denied them this, and in their midst the jihadis took over the cause.

There's a lesson to be learned there on both sides.


I remember the BBC  doing a story about the radical Chechen separatists. Most of the Chechens went to learn from the former Mujahadeen about how to fight the Russians. They were welcomed by the Islamic radicals and taught to use Islam as a carrot to lure and motivate fighters. They use jihad tactics, in the same way that during the 70's socialist and marxist terror groups used hijacking airliners. The terrorism university curriculum varies from group to group.
 
2013-04-19 10:40:23 PM

catmandu: Can you imagine being the man who found the guy? He saw blood in the driveway near the boat, went and peaked under the tarp and saw a bloody man, and called police.


The guy on the CBSBoston news feed I was watching said that that was probably how he was going to be found. He said that he was probably wounded and bleeding under somebodies porch or in their bushes, and since everybody was advised to stay in their houses, nobody was out to notice it. He said as soon as the police clear some areas and people start coming out, somebody is going to notice some blood and find this guy curled up in some corner hiding. And that is basically what happened.
 
2013-04-19 10:40:32 PM

Stoj: Turns out no Miranda rights after all.

Thanks Obama!


Where the fark does this "right to remain silent" bullshiat come from in the first place? I ain't finding it in the 5th Amendment or anywhere else in the Constitution.
 
2013-04-19 10:40:37 PM

AkaranD: http://www.abc6.com/story/22028344/report-3-arrested-in-new-bedford-i n -connection-to-bombing-suspect 

Anyone able to confirm this?

"
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Neighbors say three have been arrested in New Bedford in connection with the Boston Bombing suspect.
Police apprehended suspects from the Hidden Brook Apartments on Carriage Drive in New Bedford. Neighbors say they think that the girlfriend of 19-year-old Dzhokhar Tsarnaev may have lived in the complex and they have seen him in the area as recently as yesterday.
Dzhokhar is a student at the nearby University of Massachusetts Dartmouth. Earlier on Friday his brother, also a suspect in the Boston Marathon bombing, was killed in a gun fight with police.
 "


Variations of that story have been going around all day, some say she was arrested, others say detained to make sure he didn't crash her place and use her as a human shield, and others say she was just brought in for questioning and to help with building a profile on him.
 
2013-04-19 10:40:44 PM

TeddyRooseveltsMustache: They tried to make us pay their taxes...

[revolutionbuddies.weebly.com image 378x236]

...And they failed.

They tried to beat us at a sport they were dominant at & keep our losing streak going...

[cdn-2-service.phanfare.com image 575x431]

...And they failed...

They tried to kill our spirit, and to make us afraid to live our lives...

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...And they failed.

Boston: the city of resilience, the city of champions.


is this satire?
 
2013-04-19 10:40:44 PM
I wonder if the "playing possum" press conference lulled the suspect into a sense of comfort.
 
2013-04-19 10:40:49 PM

Therion: Here's this hour's freeper poutrage:

Obama Refused to deport Muslim Boston Bomber after 2009 criminal conviction violated immigration rules

"Tamerlan Tsarnaev, the 26-year-old killed in a wild shootout with police, was a legal U.S. resident who nevertheless could have been removed from the country after a 2009 domestic violence arrest and conviction, according to a Judicial Watch source."

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If true, is that not outrageous?
 
2013-04-19 10:41:03 PM

that bosnian sniper: Via Infinito: Do you really not get the difference? People in Texas don't need to do a city-wide manhunt to stop marauding fertilizer plants from exploding.

But you can be damn sure the Texans will try to put one in the electric chair.


only if it is a mentally disabled fertilizer plant
 
2013-04-19 10:41:10 PM
According to the NY Daily News, bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was in a boatload of trouble. What kind of trouble would have he been in if he had hid out in a port-a-potty?
 
2013-04-19 10:41:13 PM

skullkrusher: theknuckler_33: DamnYankees: To repeat,  Obama saying terrorists failed because Boston refused to be intimidated and we refused to be terrorized.

Give me a farking break. We cowered,

Bullshiat. Clearing the way for the police and investigators to do their job... and, by the way, identify and find the guys within 4 days with the help of the public... is not 'cowering'. It is supporting the effort to get the assholes who did it. Now that those who did it are taken care of, if the community still cowers, you might have a point, but I suspect, just like Obama suggested, that on Monday, life will go on like normal. Expecting people to act the very next moment as if nothing happened is preposterous. People acted just like you would expect anywhere. At least anywhere where such acts are not a daily occurrence. If you think people in, say, Iraq don't 'cower' in the face of terrorism, it is only because they don't farking do a goddamn thing to stop terrorism.

Boston: "Everyone should stay home today to ensure their safety and assist the police in finding the suspect"
Bosses: "OK guys, we're shutting down today. Be safe."
Bostonians: "Oh, gee... DamnYankees on Fark might accuse us of cowering so we should really go to work but sitting home and drinking all day and watching this shiat unfold on TV sounds better, plus that guy is a ninny."


Basically. I'm usually on his side on most things, but not this time.
 
2013-04-19 10:41:13 PM

DamnYankees: bobbette: Shutting down the city was  smart.  It kept people out of harm's way and out of the way of the cops trying to do their jobs.  It also eliminated the possibility of people trying to take out "terrorists" themselves.  "Stay the fark home, Boston" was a good call.

And this is different from any other dangerous criminal how? Should we shut cities down whenever there's someone armed and dangerous being looked for? Because that's like 90% of the time in some major city in this country.


That's rather fatuous.

There's a rather clear difference between a team of people setting off IEDs at a crowded sporting event and going on a shooting rampage for over a day, and your run-of-the-mill carjacker with a gun.  One of those differences is that  these guys killed and wounded over a hundred people and had a clear intention to inflict civilian casualties for the hell of it. One would hope that point was obvious, but perhaps it isn't.

The run-of-the-mill carjacker with a gun is not setting out to kill as many people as possible and create a climate of fear.  In able to protect the public and perhaps more importantly, allow the public to  feel safe, capturing the terrorists as quickly as possible was necessary.  Not only because of their past crimes but because of the potential for them to commit additional crimes with high casualty counts.
 
2013-04-19 10:41:17 PM

that bosnian sniper: Via Infinito: Do you really not get the difference? People in Texas don't need to do a city-wide manhunt to stop marauding fertilizer plants from exploding.

But you can be damn sure the Texans will try to put one in the electric chair.


Only if it's retarded.
 
2013-04-19 10:41:26 PM

DamnYankees: bobbette: Shutting down the city was  smart.  It kept people out of harm's way and out of the way of the cops trying to do their jobs.  It also eliminated the possibility of people trying to take out "terrorists" themselves.  "Stay the fark home, Boston" was a good call.

And this is different from any other dangerous criminal how? Should we shut cities down whenever there's someone armed and dangerous being looked for? Because that's like 90% of the time in some major city in this country.


There's "nut running around with a gun" dangerous, and then there's "nut planting bombs around the place" dangerous.  This was the latter.  And that is not represented in 90% of the crimes in the nation, major city or otherwise.  You (try to) make the emergency response proportional to the threat at hand.  This was not a usual threat.

If this had simply been a shooting at the Marathon, no, I doubt you'd have seen this kind of response.
 
2013-04-19 10:41:42 PM
Did sheep snorter really say we forgot about OKC because of the GOP propaganda machine?  Yeah, the Atlanta Olympics, USS Cole, 9-11, Benghazi, the London Bombings, etc.. had nothing to do with it.  Or the natural tendency of people to move on with their lives.

It was all Karl Rove and his propaganda.  And his damn chins.  Good Lord, we need to popularize terms like fundamentalist liberal and fundamentalist conservative for this kind of brain dead crap.
 
2013-04-19 10:41:43 PM
Media circlejerk = guy did it. Gotcha.

Anyone have definitive proof that he did yet? If he did, he deserves to be on the ground bleeding. But if he didn't....
 
2013-04-19 10:41:45 PM

Silverstaff: Stoj: Turns out no Miranda rights after all.

Thanks Obama!

You don't need to Mirandize somebody the moment you arrest them.  That's a Hollywood lie.

You only need to notify them of their Miranda rights when you begin formal interrogation of them, and in addition to the verbal notice they are presented with a written notice of it to sign, to acknowledge that they were notified.

Just because you didn't see a Hollywood-style "You have the right to remain silent. . ." while they were leading him off, like you'd see on a TV cop show, doesn't mean proper real-world procedure wasn't being followed.

This guy will get his farking Miranda rights at the right time.


Perhaps, when he his conscious.

How farking sad is that there are already Mirandize concern trolls?
 
2013-04-19 10:41:47 PM
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2013-04-19 10:41:49 PM

Shyla: [pbs.twimg.com image 600x800]


Jesus. He's so damn tiny. He really is just a kid.

Fark, kid, where did you go wrong?
 
2013-04-19 10:41:50 PM

xnecron: http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/law-enforcement-bullet i n/february2011/legal_digest

Please read this before maundering about Miranda, public safety exemptions, and the death of the Republic.


Shhhhhh!  Your facts are getting in the way of the butthurt.
 
2013-04-19 10:41:52 PM

WhoopAssWayne: Last time we had a major media crisis, Obama exploited dead first graders to try and strip away centuries old rights, just like Bush before him. There's no way he's letting low-hanging fruit like this go by. What can we expect to lose this time?


Obamaphones?

/Got nothing to feed the troll
 
2013-04-19 10:41:54 PM

xnecron: http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/law-enforcement-bullet i n/february2011/legal_digest

Please read this before maundering about Miranda, public safety exemptions, and the death of the Republic.


While I don't necessarily disagree, I wouldn't necessarily recommend getting information about your legal rights from the very agency that is most likely to want to abuse those rights. The scope of the Quarles exception to MIranda is unclear; however, in cases like this it will hardly matter. Even if they can't use those statements against him, I am sure there will be more then ample evidence to support giving him a needle if that's what you want.
 
2013-04-19 10:42:01 PM

Fubar: Best songs about American greatness...

1) Born in the USA
2) Fortunate Son
3) America, fark Yeah


4) Pink Houses
 
2013-04-19 10:42:01 PM

GAT_00: Myria: I hope the U.S. Attorney in the press conference meant that Dzhokar won't be Mirandized right now.  In a crazy situation like this, Miranda warnings can wait for a short while until he's out of medical danger and inside a jail cell.

And I hope someone does that to you one day soon for saying that.  I promise, you'll deserve it.


I don't understand the hate in your comment.  The purpose of Miranda is to avoid coercion or intimidation leading to self-incrimination.  If they're not going to ask case-relevant questions, and there are more important matters pressing, Miranda isn't necessary.  Also, "are there any other bombs?" is more important.  The rules say that answers given to pre-Miranda questioning cannot be used in court.
 
2013-04-19 10:42:46 PM

mekki: Shyla: [pbs.twimg.com image 600x800]

Jesus. He's so damn tiny. He really is just a kid.

Fark, kid, where did you go wrong?


It's supposed to be brisket, not ball bearings, in the pressure cooker.
 
2013-04-19 10:43:05 PM

Novart: Therion: Here's this hour's freeper poutrage:

Obama Refused to deport Muslim Boston Bomber after 2009 criminal conviction violated immigration rules

"Tamerlan Tsarnaev, the 26-year-old killed in a wild shootout with police, was a legal U.S. resident who nevertheless could have been removed from the country after a 2009 domestic violence arrest and conviction, according to a Judicial Watch source."

[www.majhost.com image 600x368]

[i3.kym-cdn.com image 165x115]

If true, is that not outrageous?


Yes, the INS tried to deport him but Obama personally called them up and said "No, I want you to keep this guy here in case he's an actual terrorist"
 
2013-04-19 10:43:08 PM
Ayah, Lawr Enfahcement did theyah jarbs, gud wehhk.
 
2013-04-19 10:43:10 PM

DamnYankees: bobbette: Shutting down the city was  smart.  It kept people out of harm's way and out of the way of the cops trying to do their jobs.  It also eliminated the possibility of people trying to take out "terrorists" themselves.  "Stay the fark home, Boston" was a good call.

And this is different from any other dangerous criminal how? Should we shut cities down whenever there's someone armed and dangerous being looked for? Because that's like 90% of the time in some major city in this country.


I can't believe I'm biting but:

When there are five dead, including a cop assassinated, AND 200+ rounds being exchanged, AND explosives, yeah.

I think it's a good idea.

When it's not safe to go out, like during a blizzard or a hurricane or when a psycho the likes of which your city has never seen is on a known indiscriminate killing rampage, yes.  Stay indoors.
 
2013-04-19 10:43:24 PM
Everyone needs to calm down about Miranda. It is not a requirement to read Miranda at the time of arrest, that is television detective BS. Miranda can be advised prior to interrogation and doesn't need to be brought up prior to that.
 
2013-04-19 10:43:26 PM
liberals piss me off.
 
2013-04-19 10:43:36 PM
 
2013-04-19 10:43:46 PM

Wasteland: There's "nut running around with a gun" dangerous, and then there's "nut planting bombs around the place" dangerous.  This was the latter.


You know what this is fair, and if it turns out that this dude and his brother did booby-trap the entire farking city like Bane then yes, this was a justified thing.

But my inclination is that that's not actually what happened, because these guys aren't supervillains, and its in fact the inclination to treat terrorists like supervillains, and react to them as though they are going to destroy a whole city, which is what makes terrorism work. They make you fear them way out of proportion to their actual ability to hurt you.
 
2013-04-19 10:43:59 PM

skullkrusher: that bosnian sniper: Via Infinito: Do you really not get the difference? People in Texas don't need to do a city-wide manhunt to stop marauding fertilizer plants from exploding.

But you can be damn sure the Texans will try to put one in the electric chair.

only if it is a mentally disabled fertilizer plant


especially an adolescent mentally disabled fertilizer plant, particularly if hispanic or black
 
2013-04-19 10:44:01 PM

USP .45: TeddyRooseveltsMustache: They tried to make us pay their taxes...

[revolutionbuddies.weebly.com image 378x236]

...And they failed.

They tried to beat us at a sport they were dominant at & keep our losing streak going...

[cdn-2-service.phanfare.com image 575x431]

...And they failed...

They tried to kill our spirit, and to make us afraid to live our lives...

[media.komonews.com image 660x471]

...And they failed.

Boston: the city of resilience, the city of champions.

is this satire?


Usually Boston's cockiness if off-putting. But damn it, after all they went through this week, they deserve to gloat and be cocky a little bit.
 
2013-04-19 10:44:04 PM
When I went in to work this morning, I had to have a conversation about the overnight events with my boss. After he blathered on a while, I said about the bomber at large, "He was probably shot in the gunfight that killed his brother. He's holed up in a backyard somewhere, under a tarp or in a shed, slowly bleeding to death."

Sucks to be right all the time.
 
2013-04-19 10:44:07 PM

DamnYankees: Novart: Didn't something happen in Texas recently, a guy lost his fertilizer or something?

Exactly - way more death and destruction there. But we dont care as much since there isn't an enemy to label and worry about.


Would you like a manhunt in search of Prometheus?

What would be the appropriate reaction?
 
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