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2013-04-20 12:36:33 PM

Leashlaw: My brother is hearing impaired and uses CC when we watch TV.  It drives me crazy because half the time the CC reads like a 2nd Grader high on Robotussin is just typing random words in and I can't concentrate on the movie.


On the other side of things, we've been forced to turn on the CC whenever the voodoo swamp lady shows up in the Pirates of the Caribbean movies -- for whatever reason, her dialog always seems unintelligible.
 
2013-04-20 12:44:25 PM

steamingpile: What's even worse is its not fox news but a local company that does this, I guess any reason to try and shiat on fox news.


Somebody is trying very hard to be offended.
 
2013-04-20 12:56:56 PM
I use close captioning all the time, due to difficulty hearing.  Cranking the tv to levels where I'll catch every word is not an option.  I know that live shows can have sometimes awkward transliteration of homophones, and in some cases, just down right 'WHERE the hell did that come from' lobs out of left field.  What grinds my gears is when close captioning on a program presentation (not live) looks like it is typed by Helen Keller on an ether bender, and shutting the tv off and putting it back on does not reset the fubar.  There are times when it looks like somebody IS manually trying to CC a recorded program, and they have their hands shifted over a row of keys and not realize their mistake.

From what I'm given to understand, the CC on scripted shows is exactly that, the script.  As in it's already written out.  How do you fark that up?  Also, IIANM, all new production shows must submit their final scripts for CC purposes.  Only old shows are except, and I have seen some on networks like TVLand that have stepped up to the plate and CC'd shows from the '50s, '60s, et al that predate the ADA (American with Disabilities Act.)  But I still see far too many sloppy, egregious destruction of the written scripts at the hands of CC.

Interestingly enough, the CC on Spanish Language shows is incredibly accurate.  I have (with all due modesty) an extensive vocabulary, deeply rooted in latin after 3 plus years of studying it in jr high, and growing up when public schools actually taught vocabulary and proper spelling.  I may not be able to hear the spoken spanish words fast enough, but I can read them well enough to be able to figure out the gist dialog a surprisingly large percentage of the time.

Which incidentally includes their news and live broadcasts.  Take from that what you will.
 
2013-04-20 01:12:45 PM

fusillade762: Wow, a simulpost of a gif I've never seen before.


Simulpost?
 
2013-04-20 01:19:24 PM

FlyingBacon: If the CC person reading this... I always see your mistake and always goes "WTF" when you make mistake. Some deaf people do read lips and when it doesnt match what it was said on CC, We always  know the CC person farked up. Don't ever think us deaf people  dont see it. Most of us do.I really hope you are fired. On the side, I do know that many media use software to do the CC job and most of the time I can pick that up. Bottom line is this... us deaf people arent stupid like you think we are. Have a nice day...


WHAT?!??!! Can you speak up pls?
 
2013-04-20 01:26:11 PM
It fails so hard, it loops back around for a win! XD
 
2013-04-20 02:01:39 PM
But who will make up the news if everybody is on camera reading crap about Obama's teleprompter from their teleprompters?

And who will change the (Rep.) labels to (Dem.) labels when Republicans are got with their their hands in the Monkey Paw traps of sexual deviancy, adultery and crime?
 
2013-04-20 02:34:41 PM
As someone who studied closed captioning, I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

The thing a lot of people don't know is that, for live captioning at least, a lot of it is done on a machine that uses chorded keystrokes similar to a piano.  It's the same machine used in courtrooms.  Each word is defined by a keystroke or a number of keystrokes, which a software program then "translates" into readable English.  Hopefully.  This is why a misstroked word is often readable but completely nonsensical.

As the program was live, it's likely a human was doing that broadcast.  Therefore it could have been something as simple as the captioner meaning to hit "S-D" on their machine, predefined as the name of the suspect, and they accidentally hit "Z-D", which the software program would have translated as it did (Zooey Deschanel), creating a blooper.  This is why you see things like this pop up in live captions.

Most people also wouldn't have reason to know this, but when 9/11 went down, many of the captioners who happened to be on duty that day went into overdrive, working overtime through the nonstop coverage to ensure that those who had trouble hearing would be able to better understand what was going on.  This was in the days before Twitter, Facebook, et. al., of course.  I always thought that this was pretty cool, especially considering that captioning live is a mentally-challenging task, especially when the material is disturbing and emotions are high.

/The more you know!
 
2013-04-20 03:58:00 PM

Rufus Lee King: You FARK types need to stop this sort of thing.

None of you are better than anyone else.

If anything, the opposite is true.


Please tell me that this is a new Fark meme. Please. If not, I want to be the first to say that I discovered the potential of this gem. It's even better than "I'm getting a kick out of..."
 
2013-04-20 04:45:45 PM

Hyppy: Rufus Lee King: You FARK types need to stop this sort of thing.

None of you are better than anyone else.

If anything, the opposite is true.

Please tell me that this is a new Fark meme. Please. If not, I want to be the first to say that I discovered the potential of this gem. It's even better than "I'm getting a kick out of..."


This doesn't have potential.

If anything, the opposite is true.
 
2013-04-20 05:20:00 PM

trappedspirit: fusillade762: Wow, a simulpost of a gif I've never seen before.

Simulpost?


Never mind. I was drunk. That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it.
 
2013-04-20 09:44:05 PM

fusillade762: Never mind. I was drunk. That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it.


My god, this is another simulpost, isn't it?!?!!!
 
2013-04-20 09:49:59 PM
I'm a stenographer/court reporter.  Typically live news broadcasts, sports, talk shows, etc are done by us.

I understand exactly how this could have happened.  It's just a funny mistranslation.
 
2013-04-20 09:52:44 PM

balancing act: Ooohh, a CC thread.
CSS
My sister and I often use the CCs, especially when watching things with a lot of accents or jargon.  Of course, thats fairly hit or miss.
One night, we are watching a Dr. Who episode, and the CC was completely farked, now accurate, now gibberish.
We kept seeing "  pe eful m  ic" pop up.  WTF ??
a later viewing revealed it was a hash of "suspenseful music".
But in our lexicon CC mistakes will forever be... peeful mic.
/CSS


I'm not entirely sure why this happens.  It has nothing to do with the stenographer writing but something to do with the transmission.  Sometimes when I turn on the hair dryer it will go all garbled.

I've never done captioning myself although I do have a friend who does a lot of it.  I know a lot about the steno side of it, but very little about the tech involved.  I do have the license to the software if I ever get brave enough to do it :)
 
2013-04-20 09:58:08 PM

FlyingBacon: gweilo8888: FlyingBacon: Bottom line is this... us deaf people arent stupid like you think we are. Have a nice day...

...but some of you are assholes who don't appreciate the person that gave themselves carpal tunnel -- most likely at a pittance -- to provide you with a valuable service.

Seriously, if you are giving us a valuable service, dont farked it up! I do understand you guys are about few seconds or so behind (which is "normal") but we are watching. Your jobs is to do it RIGHT (by law). I am farking serious here. I can report you to FCC. You are to do best you can. I do over see your mistake(s) but sometime its just too much. If you just making too many  farking mistakes you are fired.

I always laugh at your services when you farked up. You got no business doing it. Its a requirement to get every farking words correct.(Try it at court level) I know the farking law. I hope to sue  you or your company someday since I do make a living out of it.

I do understand about the carpal tunnel thing but we are Deaf and dont blame it on us when you picked the job to do the typing for us.

Also, I like to add that movies or tv shows are way easier to do. Live shows are the hardest of all. When Obama is speaking, the CC is really really good. I am sure the news media picked the best of all to do it.


We stenographers only do live shows.  The captioning for pre-recorded TV is done by who knows how else.  Almost all live shows though will be done by a live stenographer.

And if you're going to pick on us for how bad it is, I'll defend it to the death because you clearly have NO IDEA how hard it is.  I'm a very experienced reporter.  I've been doing realtime (live translation) for quite a while now, and I won't even touch TV captioning.  It's just not worth the extreme stress.

And now I'll go back into my lurking hidey-hole.  I probably haven't commented on fark this much cumulatively in years :)
 
2013-04-21 12:00:32 AM
Peekoo: We stenographers only do live shows.  The captioning for pre-recorded TV is done by who knows how else.

I believe it's often simply a copy of the show's script, because regularly you will see things in the captioning that is clearly an earlier version of the dialogue for a particular scene, with characters saying totally different things that don't sound even remotely similar.

Makes perfect sense, you already have the dialogue written ddown, why pay somebody to rewrite the wheel as it were?
 
2013-04-21 12:58:11 AM

FlyingBacon: If the CC person reading this... I always see your mistake and always goes "WTF" when you make mistake. Some deaf people do read lips and when it doesnt match what it was said on CC, We always  know the CC person farked up. Don't ever think us deaf people  dont see it. Most of us do.I really hope you are fired. On the side, I do know that many media use software to do the CC job and most of the time I can pick that up. Bottom line is this... us deaf people arent stupid like you think we are. Have a nice day...


Sadly there are probably people who think that deaf means mentally handicapped. What I find odd is the people that raise their voice for the blind or otherwise handicapped. I see it with an alarming frequency, I have no idea what motivates it.
 
2013-04-21 06:51:42 AM

FlyingBacon: If the CC person reading this... I always see your mistake and always goes "WTF" when you make mistake. Some deaf people do read lips and when it doesnt match what it was said on CC, We always  know the CC person farked up. Don't ever think us deaf people  dont see it. Most of us do.I really hope you are fired. On the side, I do know that many media use software to do the CC job and most of the time I can pick that up. Bottom line is this... us deaf people arent stupid like you think we are. Have a nice day...


This act was clearly a malicious attack on the Deaf Community, tantamount to hate crime, and he should be punished accordingly.
 
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