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(Some Guy)   Czech ambassador would like to inform you that "the Czech Republic and Chechnya are two very different entities"   (mzv.cz) divider line 146
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2013-04-20 02:56:24 AM
 
2013-04-20 03:54:05 AM
Too be fair the nation/states being discussed have less population than some individual U.S. states, less land area than flyover states, and aren't exactly in the international spotlight much.  I'm wondering how many random Czech youth posting on twitland could point out Idaho and Iowa on an unlabeled globe and discuss their cultural and economic differences.  Exact same thing.  Small part of a large continent.

Yes, I know I would fit in better with the cool crowd here if I simply said "OMFG weur soo stooped.  Durr!"
 
2013-04-20 04:02:44 AM

ThrobblefootSpectre: Too be fair the nation/states being discussed have less population than some individual U.S. states, less land area than flyover states, and aren't exactly in the international spotlight much.


You haven't paid much attention to the news since 1994 have you? Chechnya has fought a revolution, been invaded twice, had a couple of major terrorist incidents and massacres, has been the center of a (depending on who you ask) genocide, been a major concern with nuclear proliferation in the wake of the fall of the Soviet Union, been a major concern in the growth of Islamic militants in Eurasia.

It's a pretty big deal internationally.
 
2013-04-20 04:05:03 AM
The way he phrased it is the best part. We are central Europeans and this is Russia's fault, as always.

The Czech Republic and Chechnya are two very different entities - the Czech Republic is a Central European country; Chechnya is a part of the Russian Federation.

ThrobblefootSpectre: I'm wondering how many random Czech youth posting on twitland could point out Idaho and Iowa on an unlabeled globe and discuss their cultural and economic differences. Exact same thing


I can tell you for certain it's very very few. But they do know Slipknot is from Iowa, so there's that.


Also please, the plural of Kolac becomes Kolacky
/and Budvar sucks
 
2013-04-20 04:07:25 AM

Snapper Carr: You haven't paid much attention to the news since 1994 have you?


Lol.  Most of the twitter kids confusing the two were probably either not alive or 4 years old in 1994.  Sorry.
 
2013-04-20 04:07:34 AM

Your Average Witty Fark User: Czech Republic jails musicians for the acts of security.


Say what?
 
2013-04-20 04:19:56 AM
i3.cn.cz
link

From the front page of one of the major Czech news sites. Stereotypes are a two way street
 
2013-04-20 04:41:03 AM

Cajnik: [i3.cn.cz image 600x449]
link

From the front page of one of the major Czech news sites. Stereotypes are a two way street


What does that have to do with stereotypes? Overstretching much?
 
2013-04-20 05:01:56 AM

Snapper Carr: ThrobblefootSpectre: Too be fair the nation/states being discussed have less population than some individual U.S. states, less land area than flyover states, and aren't exactly in the international spotlight much.

You haven't paid much attention to the news since 1994 have you? Chechnya has fought a revolution, been invaded twice, had a couple of major terrorist incidents and massacres, has been the center of a (depending on who you ask) genocide, been a major concern with nuclear proliferation in the wake of the fall of the Soviet Union, been a major concern in the growth of Islamic militants in Eurasia.

It's a pretty big deal internationally.


This. More evidence our schools are failing our children. There has been a lot of history being made in that part of the world in the last 20 years. If you were to ask your average college freshman how many hours he spent learning about Chechnya or any country bordering Chechnya: I'll bet the answer would be "zero". I'd be interested in knowing how many hours Russia / USSR get during high school. 3? 4? I'll bet that's even exaggerating it.
 
2013-04-20 05:03:26 AM
And I mean: How many hours do they spend studying Russia/USSR?
 
2013-04-20 05:15:13 AM

ArcadianRefugee: signedlongint: This is unsurprising. I had a geography teacher in 2009 during high school that thought that the Czech Republic was Czechoslovakia.

Mostly because the Czech Republic was Czechoslovakia.


The Czech Republic was, in fact, half of Czechoslovakia. The other half is Slovakia.

While I am on the subject do let me remind you that Scotland IS NOT England, nor is it a part of England. And neither is Wales. Great Britain is an island that contains all three countries and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is a political entity that is, well, exactly what it says on the tin.
 
2013-04-20 05:43:22 AM

maggoo: What does that have to do with stereotypes?


I find it funny that of all of the photos they could have gone with showing American reactions, they go with the drunk, overly patriotic Americans.
 
2013-04-20 06:10:21 AM
 
2013-04-20 06:11:47 AM

Brick-House: Czech Republic has some very hot women... Chechnya, not so much.


newsimg.bbc.co.uk
Disagrees
 
2013-04-20 06:19:01 AM

Cajnik: maggoo: What does that have to do with stereotypes?

I find it funny that of all of the photos they could have gone with showing American reactions, they go with the drunk, overly patriotic Americans.


Please go take a look at a Boston thread. I'm sure some of the posters are drunk, too.
 
2013-04-20 06:53:04 AM
blogs.citypages.com
www.themotelwest.com

Admittedly this is a ridiculously small sample.

But it doesn't appear too off the wall to imagine that these unhappy folks might accidentally
the difference between Chechen and Czechoslovakia once in a while.

Sorry for pointing it out, since plainly someone's overlooked the concept that Fark is
a place for snark the infrequent bit of genteel joking.
 
2013-04-20 07:06:47 AM

Your Average Witty Fark User: Who gives a shiat? Chechnya is full of terrorists, Czech Republic jails musicians for the acts of security. They can both go eat a dick.


Hell hath no fury like a metalhead scorned
 
2013-04-20 07:21:47 AM
I hope so.....I will be visiting the former in September.
 
2013-04-20 07:34:12 AM

skullkrusher: wow we are so farking stupid


Speak for yourself.
 
2013-04-20 08:59:33 AM
Question, the earlier threads said the brothers were originally from NEAR Chechnya.
Now people are saying that they were indeed originally FROM Chechnya.
Is this a correction? Or is it near enough to there that it doesn't matter?
 
2013-04-20 09:17:26 AM

serialsuicidebomber: [ X ] Don't speak English as primary language M.F.'r?
[ X ] Some sort of republic in that country called Eurasia?
[ X ] Well within bombing distance of that one last airbase in Germany?


..... the votes are in, and YUP, they gonna be next!


I believe we have always been at war with Eurasia.
 
2013-04-20 09:20:54 AM

flaminio: Is that anywhere near Georgia?


Thank god for smart people pointing out the obvious to the world's blathering ignoramuses. If all smart people stopped helping complete numb-nuts, all the said numb-nuts would starve to death. Or choke on a fork. Or try to drink rubbing alcohol. At first this seems great. A world without drooling morons. The same drooling morons who bought useless crap like "the snuggie" and anything else advertised. The same idiots who stuffed their faces with Doritos Tacos, something no human being was meant to eat. The same dumbfarks who made twilight, transformers, and countless other stupid movies. The same bone brains who gleefully watched "honey boo boo", "the kardashians", and anything the history channel has recently made. Without the impulse purchases of 10 million pinheads, the world's economy would collapse!
 
2013-04-20 09:30:24 AM

Brick-House: Czech Republic has some very hot women... Chechnya, not so much.


I married a Czech. You are right.

BTW she had to correct TWO people at work who were all like, "Do you, like, KNOW these guys?".

/turns out their aunt lives near us, but still...
 
2013-04-20 10:49:20 AM
It's good to stress the point. I mean, Americans be wagin' war for no reason at all. I'm still trying to figure out what that whole Grenada thing was for.
 
2013-04-20 10:56:28 AM
 ThrobblefootSpectre: Too be fair the nation/states being discussed have less population than some individual U.S. states, less land area than flyover states, and aren't exactly in the international spotlight much.

You haven't paid much attention to the news since 1994 have you? Chechnya has fought a revolution, been invaded twice, had a couple of major terrorist incidents and massacres, has been the center of a (depending on who you ask) genocide, been a major concern with nuclear proliferation in the wake of the fall of the Soviet Union, been a major concern in the growth of Islamic militants in Eurasia.

It's a pretty big deal internationally.



Yup, it's all in Wikipedia...... you could Czech on it there.
 
2013-04-20 11:24:46 AM

sporkme: Two bear scientists, one from Chechnya and one from the Czech Republic, go into the wilderness to study a pair of grizzlies, one of each sex.  When they fail to return, two rangers investigating their disappearance find the female bear eating the last bits of the Chechen scientist.  One ranger turns to the other, and asks, "Do you realize what this means?"

"The Czech is in the male."


4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-04-20 11:45:27 AM
I wonder if he was still in West, TX when he released that statement?  He apparently left DC to visit the town since many residents still have family in the motherland.
 
2013-04-20 12:30:02 PM

Feral_and_Preposterous: Snapper Carr: ThrobblefootSpectre: Too be fair the nation/states being discussed have less population than some individual U.S. states, less land area than flyover states, and aren't exactly in the international spotlight much.

You haven't paid much attention to the news since 1994 have you? Chechnya has fought a revolution, been invaded twice, had a couple of major terrorist incidents and massacres, has been the center of a (depending on who you ask) genocide, been a major concern with nuclear proliferation in the wake of the fall of the Soviet Union, been a major concern in the growth of Islamic militants in Eurasia.

It's a pretty big deal internationally.

This. More evidence our schools are failing our children. There has been a lot of history being made in that part of the world in the last 20 years. If you were to ask your average college freshman how many hours he spent learning about Chechnya or any country bordering Chechnya: I'll bet the answer would be "zero". I'd be interested in knowing how many hours Russia / USSR get during high school. 3? 4? I'll bet that's even exaggerating it.


One of the coolest things our gr. 12 history class did was each kid had to research one current 'history' subject (this is back in '88 and '89), so one researched Tito, another did <a data-cke-saved-href="<a href=" href="<a href=" http:="" en.wikipedia.org="" wiki="" nicolae_ceau%c5%9fescu"="" target="_blank">Ceauşescu, etc.. The timing couldn't have been more perfect!
 
2013-04-20 12:35:18 PM

ongbok: [upload.wikimedia.org image 250x156]
Not to them



Ha!

/One of the best episodes, IMHO.
 
2013-04-20 05:05:08 PM
Close enough. Both places are jam-packed with Russian tourists. The only difference is that the ones in Chechnya wear uniforms and have tanks.
 
2013-04-20 05:32:43 PM

ThrobblefootSpectre: Too be fair the nation/states being discussed have less population than some individual U.S. states, less land area than flyover states, and aren't exactly in the international spotlight much.  I'm wondering how many random Czech youth posting on twitland could point out Idaho and Iowa on an unlabeled globe and discuss their cultural and economic differences.  Exact same thing.  Small part of a large continent.

Yes, I know I would fit in better with the cool crowd here if I simply said "OMFG weur soo stooped.  Durr!"


Maybe if Idaho and Iowa had split from the United States and formed their own countries, and one of them experienced a lot of bloodshed afterwards that made the international news, your analogy would suck less.

But hey, you managed to thumb your nose at the "cool crowd," so you've got that going for you.  Which is nice.
 
2013-04-20 05:48:21 PM

HighOnCraic: But hey, you managed to thumb your nose at the "cool crowd," so you've got that going for you.  Which is nice.


As opposed to thumbing your nose at the 300+ million population of a nation, calling them all stupid based on their geographic location.  Yep, your so cool and enlightened.  Lol.  *eyeroll*
 
2013-04-20 06:05:32 PM

Snapper Carr: ThrobblefootSpectre: Too be fair the nation/states being discussed have less population than some individual U.S. states, less land area than flyover states, and aren't exactly in the international spotlight much.

You haven't paid much attention to the news since 1994 have you? Chechnya has fought a revolution, been invaded twice, had a couple of major terrorist incidents and massacres, has been the center of a (depending on who you ask) genocide, been a major concern with nuclear proliferation in the wake of the fall of the Soviet Union, been a major concern in the growth of Islamic militants in Eurasia.

It's a pretty big deal internationally.


So, you're saying they export more history than they can consume domestically?

/party like it's 1913
 
2013-04-20 06:07:53 PM

ThrobblefootSpectre: HighOnCraic: But hey, you managed to thumb your nose at the "cool crowd," so you've got that going for you.  Which is nice.

As opposed to thumbing your nose at the 300+ million population of a nation, calling them all stupid based on their geographic location.  Yep, your so cool and enlightened.  Lol.  *eyeroll*


"As more information on the origin of the alleged perpetrators is coming to light, I am concerned to note in the social media a most unfortunate misunderstanding in this respect. The Czech Republic and Chechnya are two very different entities - the Czech Republic is a Central European country; Chechnya is a part of the Russian Federation."

He was thumbing his nose at people who had made comments in which they demonstrated their confusion about the two countries.  Why is that so bad?

http://www.rferl.org/content/boston-chechen-czech-twitter-marathon-b om bing-suspects/24963035.html
 
2013-04-20 06:24:43 PM

HighOnCraic: He was thumbing his nose at people who had made comments in which they demonstrated their confusion about the two countries.  Why is that so bad?


I wasn't referring to the Czech ambassador, i was referring to those here pretending that a few kids on twitter are representative of the entire U.S. population.
 
2013-04-20 06:33:35 PM
I had a conversation with  a grown adult(50+) at work last month who insisted Mali was in the Middle East...and he was a 12 year navy veteran.  I mean you kind of expect that here in the southern States, but not from people who have actually been outside the U.S. and bopped around the planet.  Another guy(in his 50s) thought Mozambique was a french speaking island in the Caribbean.
 
2013-04-20 06:36:47 PM

ThrobblefootSpectre: HighOnCraic: He was thumbing his nose at people who had made comments in which they demonstrated their confusion about the two countries.  Why is that so bad?

I wasn't referring to the Czech ambassador, i was referring to those here pretending that a few kids on twitter are representative of the entire U.S. population.


Nonetheless, you would agree that the statement was necessary, simply to avoid that already existing confusion, right?  I mean, we can disagree on how widespread the confusion was, but it was, you know, a real thing that happened.
 
2013-04-20 06:38:34 PM

ThrobblefootSpectre: HighOnCraic: He was thumbing his nose at people who had made comments in which they demonstrated their confusion about the two countries.  Why is that so bad?

I wasn't referring to the Czech ambassador, i was referring to those here pretending that a few kids on twitter are representative of the entire U.S. population.


Maybe you could argue that the Americans who mistook the Czech Republic for Chechnya are no true Scotsmen. . .
 
2013-04-20 06:49:35 PM

HighOnCraic: Maybe you could argue that the Americans who mistook the Czech Republic for Chechnya are no true Scotsmen. .


I understand that you want to argue that you yourself (being in the U.S.) are ignorant.  I can understand that, and accept your admission.  It seems consistent with what I have seen.  You probably shouldn't project your ignorance on others though.
 
2013-04-20 06:55:46 PM

karst: I had a conversation with  a grown adult(50+) at work last month who insisted Mali was in the Middle East...and he was a 12 year navy veteran.  I mean you kind of expect that here in the southern States, but not from people who have actually been outside the U.S. and bopped around the planet.  Another guy(in his 50s) thought Mozambique was a french speaking island in the Caribbean.


Mozambique - Martinique is not that much of a stretch.
 
2013-04-20 07:07:34 PM

ThrobblefootSpectre: HighOnCraic: Maybe you could argue that the Americans who mistook the Czech Republic for Chechnya are no true Scotsmen. .

I understand that you want to argue that you yourself (being in the U.S.) are ignorant.  I can understand that, and accept your admission.  It seems consistent with what I have seen.  You probably shouldn't project your ignorance on others though.


You are so smrt that you can't see a distinction between the Americans who made the stupid mistake and those who didn't.  I'm not claiming that every American made the stupid mistake; it was just a few, but enough to make the ambassador nervous.

I've spent enough time outside of America (hence the Gaelic part of my fark handle) to know a thing or two about maps and such.  I even stayed in a hostel for several months with a bunch of Czech and Polish guys when I lived in Dublin.

/Maybe you're just pretending to be stupid to get attention.
//In that case, you've won.
///Congratulations, I guess.
 
2013-04-20 07:14:23 PM
HighOnCraic:

You've already convinced me how ignorant some certain U.S. residents can be.  You don't have to keep trying so hard.
 
2013-04-20 07:20:08 PM

ThrobblefootSpectre: HighOnCraic:

You've already convinced me how ignorant some certain U.S. residents can be.  You don't have to keep trying so hard.


One more try:
Nonetheless, you would agree that the statement was necessary, simply to avoid that already existing confusion, right?  I mean, we can disagree on how widespread the confusion was, but it was, you know, a real thing that happened, even though it was just a small segment of twitter people.
 
2013-04-20 07:23:06 PM

HighOnCraic: One more try:
Nonetheless, you would agree that the statement was necessary, simply to avoid that already existing confusion, right?


One more try:
2013-04-20 06:24:43 PM 

ThrobblefootSpectre: I wasn't referring to the Czech ambassador, i was referring to those here pretending that a few kids on twitter are representative of the entire U.S. population.

 
2013-04-20 07:32:51 PM

ThrobblefootSpectre: HighOnCraic: One more try:
Nonetheless, you would agree that the statement was necessary, simply to avoid that already existing confusion, right?

One more try:
2013-04-20 06:24:43 PM ThrobblefootSpectre: I wasn't referring to the Czech ambassador, i was referring to those here pretending that a few kids on twitter are representative of the entire U.S. population.


I'll have to recheck the thread, 'cause I don't recall anyone arguing that those kids on twitter are representative of the entire U.S. population.

/Meh, it's not worth it.  If you wanna claim you "won," be my guest.
 
2013-04-21 05:26:25 AM

Cajnik: I find it funny that of all of the photos they could have gone with showing American reactions, they go with the drunk, overly patriotic Americans.


But that photo
Was it from real life or was it just fantasy?
If it was taken in Boston then there's no escape from reality.
 
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