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2013-04-19 03:53:34 PM  

eddievercetti: bongmiester: godammit - CISPA passed the house

Worse, they used the bombings as a example of why it should be passed.


WUT?
 
2013-04-19 03:53:35 PM  

robsul82: square028: robsul82: A friend said their last conversation was about sports, and that was the day before the bombing.

And if I heard him correctly in that interview, he said the word "chillax."

That he did.


"Just turn yourself in brah!"
 
2013-04-19 03:53:37 PM  

OgreMagi: llachlan: the DC sniper who terrorized that city was also an American, non-Muslim

He was an American and Muslim.  For some reason the news media and law enforcement downplayed that.


Because his group memberhsips didn't really matter.
 
2013-04-19 03:53:50 PM  

sybilkitty: can someone repost the link to the picture of the dead suspect?


img840.imageshack.us
 
2013-04-19 03:54:03 PM  

Rann Xerox: skinink: Police have released a picture of the kid's father:
[img580.imageshack.us image 577x750]

Nah.  This is the kid's father:

[i78.photobucket.com image 500x281]

Let's see if he can dodge bullets like his dear ol' dad.


Why is it always Boris?
 
2013-04-19 03:54:10 PM  

Mr Guy: [img856.imageshack.us image 600x450]
Uploaded with ImageShack.us

I think this woman should play the lottery.


We don't know how far from the time that pic was taken until the bomb went off. That woman could have been blocks away by the time it went off.
 
2013-04-19 03:54:12 PM  
Hypothetically, if this guy made it to Canadia, could he be extradited? I know they have rules about "no death penalty" but I really don't see them wanting to pick this fight.
 
2013-04-19 03:54:25 PM  

TheManofPA: On one hand, longer this goes, the more worried I am that he broke the perimeter.

On the other hand, the semester before the VT shootings, we had a convict escape the hospital, kill a guard and make a break towards the tech campus. They spent hours looking for him following up leads and he was just laying low in the bushes trying not to move for the whole day. I can understand why it could take so long since that took a day and they have a much narrower area to cover.


farkin' Morva.
 
2013-04-19 03:54:29 PM  
This guy is probably no where near Boston right now. He probably slipped away and is just getting into Ohio, so that's punishment enough.
 
2013-04-19 03:54:29 PM  
Open acceptance of martial law.

And so it begins.
 
2013-04-19 03:54:32 PM  
NPR says the kid is still tweeting? What the hell?
 
2013-04-19 03:54:40 PM  

Mietsko: Man, I've been listening to this police scanner for 8 hours, I think I will need to be put on the Boston PD payroll soon.


Wimp!

Talk to us again when its coming up on 16 hours like us idiot diehards!
 
2013-04-19 03:54:45 PM  

Silly Jesus: ColKurtz: I want this to end with snipers shooting both his arms off so he can't detonate his vest

He's probably got a dead man's switch.


Judge Dredd solved that by shooting the suspect, and then throwing her off a 300-story building.

/kinda liked that movie
 
2013-04-19 03:54:58 PM  

Tatsuma: Well clearly he was pushed into doing this by the rhetoric of the Tea Party, so in the end they are the real monsters not him


Graceful transition, artful dodge, AND a solid landing.

Judges?

6/10
5/10
7.5/10
 
2013-04-19 03:54:58 PM  

hobberwickey: To people screaming about the police state. The reason why everyone's cooperating isn't because we like totalitarianism, it's because we want this bastard caught and are happy to sit inside for a day to help make that happen. It's Boston, we're all stocked up on booze.


I'd say ^^THIS^^, except that I don't live anywhere near all of this. I just can't believe the number of people who don't understand this. It's roughly the same amount of people who don't understand why the 1st Amendment doesn't protect them from getting kicked off a message board if they violate the website's TOS.
 
2013-04-19 03:55:11 PM  

Whatever_I_Suppose: sybilkitty: can someone repost the link to the picture of the dead suspect?

[img840.imageshack.us image 300x375]


That picture cracks me up. Every. Damned. Time.
 
2013-04-19 03:55:20 PM  

Shyla: pretzel_chic: Random Name Generator: pretzel_chic: Shyla: TMZ says reddit has a 100% authentic picture of the deceased suspect. I tried to find it on reddit but I can never find anything on that mess of a website.

Here ya go:
http://www.reddit.com/r/gore

Al Gore has his own subreddit?

*clicks*

AHHHHHH AHHHHHHH

Oops, I meant to say NSFW.
;)

Got it. And it's really not that bad. I worked in the E.R. for a long time.


Well it does reference gore in context, so if you are dumb enough to click on it wt work.....

Anyway, after seeing a few other examples, it looks like the IED caused the wound on his left side.
 
2013-04-19 03:55:22 PM  

August11: NPR says the kid is still tweeting? What the hell?


Someone set up a troll account.
 
2013-04-19 03:55:32 PM  

netweavr: Hypothetically, if this guy made it to Canadia, could he be extradited? I know they have rules about "no death penalty" but I really don't see them wanting to pick this fight.


Yes. We have no issue returning criminals to the US.
 
2013-04-19 03:55:33 PM  

specialk111: JusticeandIndependence: Centerpoint: It was staged.....

http://club937.com/alex-jones-claims-he-has-proof-that-the-boston-mar a thon-attack-was-staged-video/">http://club937.com/alex-jones-claims-h e-has-proof-that-the-boston-mara thon-attack-was-staged-video/

Of course he does.  With Alex Jones EVERYTHING is a conspiricy.

Hell, some people believe that Alex Jones is working for the feds/lizard overlords as a disinformation mouthpiece.  That he's intentionally putting shiatty info out there to cover up the  REAL news that "they" don't want reported.

/don't get it
//steer clear of those people


So, it is basically a three person stand-off like this:

encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com
 
2013-04-19 03:55:35 PM  

netweavr: Hypothetically, if this guy made it to Canadia, could he be extradited? I know they have rules about "no death penalty" but I really don't see them wanting to pick this fight.


For starters, he's not a citizen, so it's irrelevant. Second, Canada refusing to hand him over would create such an international incident and massive shiatstorm there is no way that would happen unless like, possibly the NDP had a majority government and they legalized crack.
 
2013-04-19 03:55:36 PM  

what_now: I'm boooored. :(


This isn't interesting, nothing is happening, but I can't stop and watch a west wing marathon incase something happens.


tips to make it more entertaining.

1) post a rumour
2) wild speculation
3) troll someone
4) link the subject to an issue of interest to you (abortion, gun control, the middle-east)
 
2013-04-19 03:55:43 PM  
I think constantly refreshing these pages is beginning to give the wrong impression to Google:

i35.tinypic.com

/Metal Health will drive ya mad
 
2013-04-19 03:55:43 PM  
I say we nuke Chechnya.
 
2013-04-19 03:55:47 PM  

mrshowrules: nickerj1: Subject face down at hazel and howe, waiting for tac team to approach.

Holy shiat if true.  Bad dog, bad, bad, dog. if not.


Should be taken with a grain of salt.  Every 15 minutes they've got a white male face down and waiting to search.
 
2013-04-19 03:55:49 PM  

from my blood: Open acceptance of martial law.

And so it begins.


Wrong thread.
 
2013-04-19 03:55:52 PM  
So is the consensus in the thread that he broke the perimeter a long time ago?
 
2013-04-19 03:55:55 PM  

MaliFinn: OgreMagi: llachlan: the DC sniper who terrorized that city was also an American, non-Muslim

He was an American and Muslim.  For some reason the news media and law enforcement downplayed that.

Because his group memberhsips didn't really matter.


To "Real 'Mericans!" like good ole OgreMagi it matters!
 
2013-04-19 03:56:11 PM  
They have no clue where he is. They're totally floundering.
 
2013-04-19 03:56:11 PM  
Dare I say it, but has anyone questioned the legality of locking down Boston?

Obviously I don't want to see anyone else get hurt and I want this guy caught as soon as possible, but the carte blanche we're giving law enforcement is how we ended up with things like the Patriot Act, warrantless wiretapping, etc.

Ironically, the police response to capturing this guy is allowing him to hold the whole city hostage without actually doing anything.
 
2013-04-19 03:56:14 PM  
The aunt that is yelling "prove to me these pictures are my nephews" - if we prove it to her, will she leave the country?
 
2013-04-19 03:56:15 PM  
Death photo?

NSFW
 
2013-04-19 03:56:17 PM  

TheManofPA: On one hand, longer this goes, the more worried I am that he broke the perimeter.

On the other hand, the semester before the VT shootings, we had a convict escape the hospital, kill a guard and make a break towards the tech campus. They spent hours looking for him following up leads and he was just laying low in the bushes trying not to move for the whole day. I can understand why it could take so long since that took a day and they have a much narrower area to cover.


if I remember right from this morning, they were tracking a guy in a black hoodie and all of a sudden a cop spotted the actual suspect in an industrial building outside of the secured/surrounded area.

By the time they got manpower to search the building, suspect was gone.
 
2013-04-19 03:56:17 PM  

bowtiesheep: hutchkc: Abzzstain: So the police get a free pass to barge in without a search warrant and toss every farking house in Boston if they want. If you're not home they'll let themselves in.

I realize they've got to find the guy, but this seems like overkill and not exactly constitutional. I suspect police all over the country will be using this convenient tactic now whenever there's a fugitive.

If they are searching house to house, they knock on the door and ask to search.  The people are allowing it.  The cop casually walks through your house just to see if there is someone there.  Had that happen a couple times.  They spend all of like 2 minutes in your house.  Not unconstitutional and they don't care about jack shiat except the person they are looking for.  The first time it happened I was at my neighbors and his roommate was smoking a <b>bowel</b> when they went through.  Not a word about it.

Hands-down nastiest thing I've heard in the last hour


What if you say "no"?
 
2013-04-19 03:56:29 PM  

Walker: Mr Guy: [img856.imageshack.us image 600x450]
Uploaded with ImageShack.us

I think this woman should play the lottery.

We don't know how far from the time that pic was taken until the bomb went off. That woman could have been blocks away by the time it went off.


Doesn't make it any luckier from her perspective that she was in that place, watching at the same time right next to the kid, and chose to relocate.
 
2013-04-19 03:56:35 PM  

from my blood: Open acceptance of martial law.

And so it begins.


www.questionablecontent.net
 
2013-04-19 03:56:37 PM  

from my blood: Open acceptance of martial law.

And so it begins.



What do you think is beginning?
 
2013-04-19 03:56:37 PM  

Tatsuma: netweavr: Hypothetically, if this guy made it to Canadia, could he be extradited? I know they have rules about "no death penalty" but I really don't see them wanting to pick this fight.

For starters, he's not a citizen, so it's irrelevant. Second, Canada refusing to hand him over would create such an international incident and massive shiatstorm there is no way that would happen unless like, possibly the NDP had a majority government and they legalized crack.


He's a citizen.
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/04/19/marathon-bombing-suspect-becam e- u-s-citizen-on-september-11/
 
2013-04-19 03:56:42 PM  

ColSanders: Robert1966: Add me to the list of people who think the kid is dead somewhere and hasn't been stumbled upon yet.

Either that or he's well outside the perimeter and getting farther away by the minute.


Don't worry. If he IS outside the perimiter, he'll be robbing a 7-11 any minute now, and they'll be hot on his trail.
 
2013-04-19 03:56:50 PM  

Tommy Moo: No more stories about how these two were "good kids" or how it's "so shocking" that these "peaceful" young men could commit such a strange act. There's no longer any ambiguity. These are two more people poisoned by their religion to commit the exact kind of evil that is consistent with the teachings of their holy text. They grew to hate this country because of our tolerance of homosexuality and female sexuality. They terrorized us as a favor, to scare us onto a path of righteousness that they believed would point us toward salvation. This is your brain on Islam.


You know, just this month an American bomb in Afghanistan killed 20 people including 12 children. Not exactly a shocking or out of the ordinary event either.

But I'm sure Muslims are just mad about how free we are. I know that I surely fell compelled to mass violence whenever I hear about societies that are organized somewhat differently than my own.
 
2013-04-19 03:56:59 PM  

from my blood: Open acceptance of martial law.

And so it begins.


You have no concept of what martial law actually is.
 
2013-04-19 03:57:03 PM  

JerseyTim: This guy is probably no where near Boston right now. He probably slipped away and is just getting into Ohio, so that's punishment enough.


Probably hunkered down wherever him and his brother tested their batches of explosives or bomb designs.
 
2013-04-19 03:57:09 PM  
NORM!
 
2013-04-19 03:57:15 PM  

drdstny: The gun show loophole essentially amounts to private citizens doing PPT / P2P (private party / person to person) transactions. You see these all the time at gun shows: people "wear" their guns with a sign on it that says what they want (cash or trade). Since there's nothing stopping one consenting party from looking the other way while another consenting party hands over money, THAT is the loophole. THAT is the problem. Responsible gun dealers won't look the other way, if for no other reason than to account for the serial number of the gun being sold.



There is also nothing stopping gun dealers (not random people wearing their guns with a sign) from looking the other way.  THAT also is the loophole.  Yes, "responsible" gun dealers won't look the other way.  Duh, by definition you called them "responsible."  There are also plenty of "irresponsible" gun dealers who don't even bother asking if you're even from that state, let alone whether you're allowed to purchase guns, are a felon, what your name is to track purchases with the serial number and so on.
 
2013-04-19 03:57:16 PM  

ACunningPlan: vento: Nana's Vibrator: vento: serpent_sky: vento: Why in the heck are people in Boston, and in the area in question, out walking around?  And in hoodies and/or with backpacks?

I almost always have a hoodie on, and my normal every day bag is a backpack. A stuffed animal backpack, but still, a backpack. They might just be doing normal things.

And I would hope that today of all days, you would be intelligent enough to stay in the house.  And if you do have to go outside, you would dress as opposite of this guy as possible - meaning no hoodie and no backpack.  There have been a lot of clueless idiots wasting a lot of resources.

F*ck all of that.  I'm inside and I'll be eating grilled cheese on crust tonight.  CRUST!
sucks worse for some, as marisyana mentioned earlier about people needing meds and other important things.

Crust?!?!  Your sacrifices are noted.  I agree about the people needind meds.  They should call the police non-emergency number for options.  Others that don't have food?  How in the heck do you not have a day or two worth of food in your house?

If you live on a very tight budget, and only shop on a specific day.  Not everyone can afford to stock up on the off-chance of terror-crazy-mayhem breaking out.


I, for one, am running out of booze, thanks to this open mic drinknubianme trhead .
 
2013-04-19 03:57:22 PM  
Didn't these guys STEAL the firearm they were using? Is there any evidence that they already had a firearm?
 
2013-04-19 03:57:33 PM  

LeadFootSpiderMonkey: havin a hard time listenin to officer Skips-a-lot


This is --- going west --- sausages --- hand --- over.
 
2013-04-19 03:57:41 PM  

Tatsuma: ShawnDoc: The original containment zone was only 2 blocks in each direction, and then they expanded to 4. So as long as he ran straight, he was well out of the zone by the time they actually got it setup, and they delayed setting it up because they were busy making that one guy get naked in the middle of the road.

Pretty much, I think that at this point he might be just three four states away


If he makes it to Cincinnati no one will find him for 20yrs.
 
2013-04-19 03:57:41 PM  

netweavr: August11: NPR says the kid is still tweeting? What the hell?

Someone set up a troll account.


There are four fake accounts that I saw. His real one hasn't been active for two days.
 
2013-04-19 03:57:43 PM  

Tatsuma: netweavr: Hypothetically, if this guy made it to Canadia, could he be extradited? I know they have rules about "no death penalty" but I really don't see them wanting to pick this fight.

For starters, he's not a citizen, so it's irrelevant. Second, Canada refusing to hand him over would create such an international incident and massive shiatstorm there is no way that would happen unless like, possibly the NDP had a majority government and they legalized crack.


You ok Tat's? You're sounding very irrational these last few pages of this thread..

NOT a citizen? You better re-check your facts on that!
 
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