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2013-04-19 03:44:07 PM
godammit - CISPA passed the house
 
2013-04-19 03:44:19 PM

ShawnDoc: When are they going to send these guys in?

[blogs.coventrytelegraph.net image 850x612]


You mean the criminals?
 
2013-04-19 03:44:23 PM

TheManofPA: pdkl95: Wow. Such a charlie-foxtrot. Way to give in in to terrorism, America. Now everybody is going to copycat this mess, now that they've seen how easy it is to scare us into shutting down our own city.

It's from earlier in the week, but I highly recommend t">this essay by noted security expert Bruce Schneier on how important it is to refuse to be terrorized. Or, as Douglass Adams put it... "Don't Panic".

Easy for you to say, you didn't leave home without your towel


Thanks for reminding me. I wanted to make some Pan-Galactic Gargle-Blasters for the open mic drinking game.
 
2013-04-19 03:44:26 PM

ThatGuyGreg: TravelingRetard: Amtrak service between Boston & NYC has been shut down until further notice.

@maddow - 11:41 AM - 19 Apr 13
On a northbound train into NYC. Conductor: "For those of you wondering about beyond New Haven? There is no beyond New Haven."


She posted that 4 hrs ago.  Service got suspended about 20 minutes ago.
 
2013-04-19 03:44:28 PM
Why the hell would you walk around without your damn wallet?  I mean, that's where you carry your money and cards right?  Why do you not have your driver's license in there as well?
Also, god damn BPD, radio discipline you lack.  Good luck out there though!
 
2013-04-19 03:44:41 PM

Centerpoint: It was staged.....

http://club937.com/alex-jones-claims-he-has-proof-that-the-boston-mar a thon-attack-was-staged-video/">http://club937.com/alex-jones-claims-h e-has-proof-that-the-boston-mara thon-attack-was-staged-video/


Of course he does.  With Alex Jones EVERYTHING is a conspiricy.
 
2013-04-19 03:44:44 PM

4tehsnowflakes: Someone just sent me a purported photo of the older brother on a slab with his wounds exposed.  If real, I am outraged at the violation of his post-mortem right to privacy?


PLEASE don't post the link! Its only been done 100 times here already and the mods keep deleting them..which screws up all of us hitting refresh!
 
2013-04-19 03:44:49 PM

pdkl95: Wow. Such a charlie-foxtrot. Way to give in in to terrorism, America. Now everybody is going to copycat this mess, now that they've seen how easy it is to scare us into shutting down our own city.

It's from earlier in the week, but I highly recommend t">this essay by noted security expert Bruce Schneier on how important it is to refuse to be terrorized. Or, as Douglass Adams put it... "Don't Panic".


I lived in Boston for 14 years and have a bunch of friends there now. I get the sense from none of them that they're giving in to terrorism or fear. They are simply, willfully complying with authorities in an attempt to bring this suspect to justice.
 
2013-04-19 03:44:50 PM
Epic law enforcement fail!
 
2013-04-19 03:44:51 PM

hutchkc: Abzzstain: So the police get a free pass to barge in without a search warrant and toss every farking house in Boston if they want. If you're not home they'll let themselves in.

I realize they've got to find the guy, but this seems like overkill and not exactly constitutional. I suspect police all over the country will be using this convenient tactic now whenever there's a fugitive.

If they are searching house to house, they knock on the door and ask to search.  The people are allowing it.  The cop casually walks through your house just to see if there is someone there.  Had that happen a couple times.  They spend all of like 2 minutes in your house.  Not unconstitutional and they don't care about jack shiat except the person they are looking for.  The first time it happened I was at my neighbors and his roommate was smoking a bowel when they went through.  Not a word about it.


Ew.
 
2013-04-19 03:44:52 PM
Will the farking 'WAAAH IT WAS STAGED' idiots shut the fark up already?
 
2013-04-19 03:44:57 PM

JusticeandIndependence: Who is Bob Owens?


I think he used to run the used Chrysler dealership on route 12, you know, the one where two customers got e. coli from the coffee pot?
 
2013-04-19 03:45:09 PM

bongmiester: godammit - CISPA passed the house


Worse, they used the bombings as a example of why it should be passed.
 
2013-04-19 03:45:10 PM
posted this in the other thread (which seems dead)

we've reached available news saturation -- listening to the canadian aunt is not news.

hunkered down with social networking for updates, skype for business meetings and a home cooked lunch -- this is not the end of the world.

but i did just walk around the block all businesses are indeed closed and the streets are empty save one fire engine on Harvard Ave that is getting coffee from a local diner.

/brookline: http://goo.gl/maps/rZifb
 
2013-04-19 03:45:13 PM

star_topology: Explosive Ordnance Disposal


+1 for proper spelling of "ordnance"
 
2013-04-19 03:45:16 PM

Centerpoint: It was staged.....

http://club937.com/alex-jones-claims-he-has-proof-that-the-boston-mar a thon-attack-was-staged-video/">http://club937.com/alex-jones-claims-h e-has-proof-that-the-boston-mara thon-attack-was-staged-video/


Seems legit. Those guys couldn't possibly have already been confirmed to be event security.
 
2013-04-19 03:45:19 PM
Anyone ever buy a Wraptastic?
 
2013-04-19 03:45:26 PM

Boojum2k: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Boojum2k: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Boojum2k: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Boojum2k: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: drdstny: CygnusDarius: @JohnFugelsang 16m

Reminder - 45 Senators just voted to let Dzhokhar Tsarnaev buy weapons at gun shows w/no inconvenient background checks.

LAST TIME, people: Background checks are not permission, they are rejection.  Put another way: a background check would not stop an immigrant with a state-provided ID, but a law-abiding citizen named John Wilkes Booth would be told to wait 7 days while they look into it further.

There's nothing WRONG with a background check, but it's not magic, either.  It's still not enough to stop a first-time buyer with no criminal record who never reported the side-effects of a recent Cymbalta prescription.

According to the website spotcrime.com, Tamerlan was arrested for domestic violence in July 2009 after assaulting his girlfriend.

Okay, presuming it resulted in a conviction, that would probably prevent him from passing a background check. Now how about his brother?

His NINETEEN year old brother?

Age 18 for a long gun in Massachusetts.

Is that what he has?

Per the cops last night, yes. Until they killed a cop and took his gun.

I guess we'll find out where he got it.

Yep. But last week, he was just a guy. He could have bought it legally in Massachusetts with a full background check. So the "background check would have stopped this" claim is dead on arrival, not to mention they have homemade bombs.


So you think Tamerlan should have been allowed to buy?
 
2013-04-19 03:45:27 PM

Walker: ModernPrimitive01: can they arrest someone for just being out on the street?

Sure. And strip them naked in front of the whole neighborhood and news crews.
[pbs.twimg.com image 567x374]


Well they did say something about debriefing any suspicious-looking males.
 
2013-04-19 03:45:36 PM

antiFodder: Regarding the "autopsy" photo... does anyone know what the toothpicks stuck in his chest are for?


Those are 14 ga angio caths placed into his chest to treat what is called a tension pneumothorax. It lets the air that has built up in the chest around the lung and making it collapse escape, letting the lung re-expand.

So a resuscitation attempt was made in the field at the very least.

Not sure what the large wound on his side is all about, but it may be the result of being run over vs. a hastily made surgical wound. The shoulder and face appear to be burns vs abrasions (road rash). I can count one GSW in the left arm and one in his lateral left abdomen, but they both line up so probably same projectile

That's not an autopsy photo though.
 
2013-04-19 03:45:39 PM

Bullseyed: Rwa2play: Truther: I'll say it again, hope no one else is killed - including the alleged bomber...

This; If he's alive, the authorities will find out what the hell's in his head that made him and his brother do this.

They already know. It's ISLAM. They were crazy murderous Muslims. Just like 95% of all terrorists.


And yet, the worst act of terrorism on American soil before 9/11 was committed by white, middle class, native son Americans, who decided planting a bomb that would concentrate the blast at a daycare was a good idea. Crazy, yes. Muslim no.  In fact, it seems to me that the last few mass killings in the US were not committed by Muslims - and that a mosque was actually a target of an attack - committed by - you guessed it - a white American. IIRC, the DC sniper who terrorized that city was also an American, non-Muslim.

Considering the sheer population count of Muslims vs everyone else, there is no way you can say that 95% of terroristic acts have muslims to blame. Fanatics come in all colours and creeds. Well, except Navaho - they seem pretty chill.
 
2013-04-19 03:45:45 PM

Hobodeluxe: OregonVet: I would like the hair splitters for their insight as to the "this isn't marshal law!" reasoning.

it isn't marshall law

but it might be martial law.


Wake me up when it's "Canterbury's Law" or "Harry's Law".
 
2013-04-19 03:45:52 PM

Tatsuma: CygnusDarius: Well, if I tried that, I'd get a beatdown.

... that's the point. It's a real teenage 'FARK U, DAD' mentality to think that in the middle of a huge manhunt for a man with explosives and assault rifles ready to kill anyone in his path that to tell people to stay indoors and if they have to go out, to carry ID on them is somewhat reminiscent of Nazi Germany.


It's funny, I always carry my ID with me because that's what you need in Mexico to get a drink in a bar.
 
2013-04-19 03:45:53 PM
You know we're in an ADD society when listening a live police feed of a hunt for a terrorist murderer just... isn't as exciting as it was a few hours ago.  Let's have some action!

I want this to end with snipers shooting both his arms off so he can't detonate his vest, then waterboard him right away to see if there was anyone else involved.
 
2013-04-19 03:46:05 PM
City on lockdown. I wonder what's gonna happen 9 months from now.
 
2013-04-19 03:46:13 PM

rufus-t-firefly: Grobbley: And every single time, people get mad.  If it were just "stupid bullshiat" why not simply dismiss it as such and move on?  Do you know how much "stupid bullshiat" gets posted and reposted on FARK every single day?  Generally people don't get so pissed off about it.  The emotional responses to this "stupid bullshiat" would indicate to me that they feel their view of reality is threatened by it.  People don't want to face the potential of their reality being wrong, so anything that conflicts with their reality is immediately a threat to be attacked or suppressed, regardless of how absurd it is.

/I don't personally believe any of the shiat from the image, but I do find the responses to be humorous and illuminating

Oh, so you're just trolling - posting something you don't believe because you enjoy making people mad.

The faux-psychology explanation is your own attempt to justify your trolling. It's more likely people get mad because they know exactly what you're doing.


i2.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-04-19 03:46:22 PM

The Life Of Brian: eddievercetti: Who's Joe and why should I care about him?

Scanner joke...Listen or be left out


Any escape might help to smooth the unattractive truth, but the suburbs have no charms to soothe the restless dreams of youth...
 
2013-04-19 03:46:35 PM

ShawnDoc: Tatsuma: Just read on WCVB live feed that they have military hell cops on the scene, shiat is getting real

hell cops?


i28.tinypic.com
 
2013-04-19 03:46:43 PM
Troopah Sully can you repeat yo-ah ho-ahs?
 
2013-04-19 03:46:49 PM

hutchkc: The first time it happened I was at my neighbors and his roommate was smoking a bowel when they went through.


You know that whole jenkem thing was just a hoax, right? ;)
 
2013-04-19 03:46:51 PM

Hobodeluxe: OregonVet: I would like the hair splitters for their insight as to the "this isn't marshal law!" reasoning.

it isn't marshall law

but it might be martial law.


Or maybe Marsha law.
Marsha Marsha Marsha!
 
2013-04-19 03:46:52 PM
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I think this woman should play the lottery.
 
2013-04-19 03:46:55 PM

hutchkc: Abzzstain: So the police get a free pass to barge in without a search warrant and toss every farking house in Boston if they want. If you're not home they'll let themselves in.

I realize they've got to find the guy, but this seems like overkill and not exactly constitutional. I suspect police all over the country will be using this convenient tactic now whenever there's a fugitive.

If they are searching house to house, they knock on the door and ask to search.  The people are allowing it.  The cop casually walks through your house just to see if there is someone there.  Had that happen a couple times.  They spend all of like 2 minutes in your house.  Not unconstitutional and they don't care about jack shiat except the person they are looking for.  The first time it happened I was at my neighbors and his roommate was smoking a <b>bowel</b> when they went through.  Not a word about it.


Hands-down nastiest thing I've heard in the last hour
 
2013-04-19 03:46:58 PM
Seth Mnookin  @sethmnookin
Neither rain nor sleet nor a region-wide, "shelter-in-place" dragnet: Somehow, our mail got delivered today.
 
2013-04-19 03:47:06 PM

vento: Nana's Vibrator: vento: serpent_sky: vento: Why in the heck are people in Boston, and in the area in question, out walking around?  And in hoodies and/or with backpacks?

I almost always have a hoodie on, and my normal every day bag is a backpack. A stuffed animal backpack, but still, a backpack. They might just be doing normal things.

And I would hope that today of all days, you would be intelligent enough to stay in the house.  And if you do have to go outside, you would dress as opposite of this guy as possible - meaning no hoodie and no backpack.  There have been a lot of clueless idiots wasting a lot of resources.

F*ck all of that.  I'm inside and I'll be eating grilled cheese on crust tonight.  CRUST!
sucks worse for some, as marisyana mentioned earlier about people needing meds and other important things.

Crust?!?!  Your sacrifices are noted.  I agree about the people needind meds.  They should call the police non-emergency number for options.  Others that don't have food?  How in the heck do you not have a day or two worth of food in your house?


If you live on a very tight budget, and only shop on a specific day.  Not everyone can afford to stock up on the off-chance of terror-crazy-mayhem breaking out.
 
2013-04-19 03:47:12 PM

Tommy Moo: No more stories about how these two were "good kids" or how it's "so shocking" that these "peaceful" young men could commit such a strange act. There's no longer any ambiguity. These are two more people poisoned by their religion to commit the exact kind of evil that is consistent with the teachings of their holy text. They grew to hate this country because of our tolerance of homosexuality and female sexuality. They terrorized us as a favor, to scare us onto a path of righteousness that they believed would point us toward salvation. This is your brain on Islam.


For someone raised to hate this country and our tolerance of female sexuality, he sure has his hands pretty far up that girl's torso on the prom pic going around.
 
2013-04-19 03:47:24 PM

ColKurtz: then waterboard him right away to see if there was anyone else involved.


They could waterboard him with the blood from his gushing stumps.
 
2013-04-19 03:47:33 PM

The Life Of Brian: 4tehsnowflakes: Someone just sent me a purported photo of the older brother on a slab with his wounds exposed.  If real, I am outraged at the violation of his post-mortem right to privacy?

PLEASE don't post the link! Its only been done 100 times here already and the mods keep deleting them..which screws up all of us hitting refresh!


OK, I had no intention of posting it.  Impossible to keep up with this thread without sacrificing everything else, attention-wise.
 
2013-04-19 03:47:40 PM
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2013-04-19 03:47:46 PM

CygnusDarius: It's funny, I always carry my ID with me because that's what you need in Mexico to get a drink in a bar.


Yeah exactly, 'WAH I AINT CARRYING ID DURING A MANHUNT' is so farking childish
 
2013-04-19 03:47:49 PM

Loaf's Tray: The Life Of Brian: eddievercetti: Who's Joe and why should I care about him?

Scanner joke...Listen or be left out

Any escape might help to smooth the unattractive truth, but the suburbs have no charms to soothe the restless dreams of youth...


let's not rush to judgement.
 
2013-04-19 03:47:50 PM

ExpressPork: Attn DUMBFARK reporters.  You are interviewing someone who can barely speak English.  Tell him to answer is his native language and translate it later.  How did none of them think of this?  He clearly doesn't understand English.


SPEAK MERRICAN! YOU SOME KIND OF TERRRIST??
 
2013-04-19 03:47:53 PM
It's going to be dark in about 4 hours... How did a 19 year old slip away like this?
 
2013-04-19 03:47:57 PM

Russ1642: City on lockdown. I wonder what's gonna happen 9 months from now.


shiat load of gay marriages??

/we can only hope
//and dream
///erotic! <Ahhhhhhh>
 
2013-04-19 03:48:00 PM

quizzical: ColKurtz: SultanofSchwing: styckx: JusticeandIndependence: styckx: How can these guys go door to door entering peoples homes at will and you're not allowed to refuse? People are basically locked in their homes.. It's martial law without being martial law

I don't think are just entering people's homes at will.

So far it's just a request to stay in your home.  There is no mandate.

CNN said if these guys knock on your door and you're not home they have ways of entering

I was wondering this too.  Completely out of my arse, but I'm guessing there's a judge in the command-post or something who is signing off on blanket warrants, or maybe whole batches of them in one warrant, and would be allowed in terrorist-style situations at least.

Exigent circumstances do not require a warrant. A city-wide manhunt qualifies.


Um no. Exigent circumstances are basically something even more than probable cause that allow you to go into a house.  Like a gunshot inside.  "We know he is somewhere in the city" is not exigent circumstances to go into a house.
 
2013-04-19 03:48:03 PM

Centerpoint: It was staged.....

http://club937.com/alex-jones-claims-he-has-proof-that-the-boston-ma ra thon-attack-was-staged-video/


Can we PLEASE strap him to a rocket and launch it directly into the Sun?
 
2013-04-19 03:48:06 PM

ariseatex: For someone raised to hate this country and our tolerance of female sexuality, he sure has his hands pretty far up that girl's torso on the prom pic going around.


I'm pretty sure he doesn't mind the two huge piles of female sexuality right there, no.
 
2013-04-19 03:48:09 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: muck4doo: I'm gonna get out of here. What i don't understand is how evil people sacrifice our young people for their ideals. Kids who haven't had time to weigh things out in their own minds. We do it today, and we have done it for thousands of years. The elders make the cause for death and murder, then make the young carry it out while keeping themselves out of the battle.

Lanza?


Just convinced that for kids who do these kinds of things there are older adults that trained them to think that way, and then slink away in the background like cowards and let the kids fight for their fantasies.
 
2013-04-19 03:48:24 PM
quartus.net
R.I.P.
 
2013-04-19 03:48:39 PM
havin a hard time listenin to officer Skips-a-lot
 
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