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2013-04-19 03:16:30 PM

Jake Havechek: What did I say here many times before?

Don't trust Russians!

See what happens?


Frank Stallone, is that you?
 
2013-04-19 03:16:35 PM

fatalvenom: What happens now, play two games in one day now??!?!?


That doesn't happen.
 
2013-04-19 03:16:39 PM

Silly Jesus: Nana's Vibrator: find anyone discussing race/ethnicity and politics and ban them until this is over.

So don't discuss the topic at hand?


ONLY discuss the topic at hand.  There's a murderer on the loose.  That's it.  That's all.
 
2013-04-19 03:16:51 PM

CygnusDarius: @JohnFugelsang 16m

Reminder - 45 Senators just voted to let Dzhokhar Tsarnaev buy weapons at gun shows w/no inconvenient background checks.


LAST TIME, people: Background checks are not permission, they are rejection.  Put another way: a background check would not stop an immigrant with a state-provided ID, but a law-abiding citizen named John Wilkes Booth would be told to wait 7 days while they look into it further.

There's nothing WRONG with a background check, but it's not magic, either.  It's still not enough to stop a first-time buyer with no criminal record who never reported the side-effects of a recent Cymbalta prescription.
 
2013-04-19 03:16:54 PM

Russ1642: So it's 2013 and law enforcement can't figure out how not to have all their communications intercepted by scanners and posted online. I assume that a 19 year old suspect knows how to use the internet.


Well to be fair, as I mentioned in one of the other threads, trying to coordinate multiple agencies and departments to all have the same encryption and same channels is a nightmare. When things get to the scale they are in Boston where multiple cities, agencies and so forth are all trying to coordinate, an unencrypted analog channel is about the only thing that will work worth a damn. I can't speak for the Boston area, but throughout most of my state the only agencies that use digital channels, trunking channels or encryption are County Sheriff departments and state troopers. Fire and EMS departments here typically won't even use digital or trunking channels, and won't use encryption. Hell it took 9/11 happening to get to the point where putting together mutual aid frequencies for use through an entire state was even conceived.
 
2013-04-19 03:16:56 PM

r0Be: Treygreen13: The dad was just on CNN blaming the police for his son's death.

Who's dad?  The MIT officer's?


Oh, I see, the Terrorist's dad.  Pfff...   Don't care.
 
2013-04-19 03:17:02 PM

soporific: Treygreen13: soporific: If that's true, why did they wait so long? Why not leave the country hours after it happened before the authorities know it's you?

I imagine one of the first things they do to find suspects is check the flight logs of all flights out of the country immediately after the bombing from the nearest airport.

But no one knew who they were on Monday, and it would be pretty easy to simply have plane tickets ready at an airport in a nearby city. Simply get in a car, drive 100 miles, and get on a plane. Of course, it might be a little suspicious that someone from Boston is leaving from another city, so perhaps that plan might not work. Since I'm not a mass murdering psychopath, I've never really looked into it.


You can walk through the woods to Canada pretty much anywhere between Lake Champlain in Vermont to Caribou in Maine. These guys either wanted to go out like this or they are the stupidest people on the planet.
 
2013-04-19 03:17:08 PM

soporific: Treygreen13: soporific: If that's true, why did they wait so long? Why not leave the country hours after it happened before the authorities know it's you?

I imagine one of the first things they do to find suspects is check the flight logs of all flights out of the country immediately after the bombing from the nearest airport.

But no one knew who they were on Monday, and it would be pretty easy to simply have plane tickets ready at an airport in a nearby city. Simply get in a car, drive 100 miles, and get on a plane. Of course, it might be a little suspicious that someone from Boston is leaving from another city, so perhaps that plan might not work. Since I'm not a mass murdering psychopath, I've never really looked into it.


Well I'm thinking if you want to book a flight out, you have to give your information. The FBI (or whoever is checking this) would probably take flight logs from every flight out of Boston  from that day. Then the next day. They'd keep looking... for a while. If you wait a week or so (and don't plan on them picking you out of that massive crowd with surveillance cameras) that really increases the number of flights they have to watch. Instead of being one of 500 people flying out of Boston that day, you're one of 5,000 people flying out of Boston.
 
2013-04-19 03:17:13 PM

Shyla: TMZ says reddit has a 100% authentic picture of the deceased suspect. I tried to find it on reddit but I can never find anything on that mess of a website.


Here ya go:
http://www.reddit.com/r/gore
 
2013-04-19 03:17:16 PM

Jake Havechek: What did I say here many times before?

Don't trust Russians!

See what happens?


Chechnya is a former Soviet bloc. Not quite Ivan enough.

But, your point still stands.
 
2013-04-19 03:17:21 PM

Coco LaFemme: It's incredibly surreal to see photos of armored vehicles rolling down the street, gunner perched at the machine gun on top.


I had to go to WRAMC quite a bit after 9/11, had a HUMVEE with a guy leaning on a .50 on top at the gate all the time.  You get used to it.
 
2013-04-19 03:17:26 PM

Satanic_Hamster: MadlockSatanic_Hamster: Hmmm.  Quote button is only not working in Firefox.  Works fine in IE.

Works for me... restart the browser maybe?

Wait ten minutes for the next Firefox update...
Tried that...  Have had Firefox and Java updates today, wondering which one messed things up...


I haven't updated firefox. Probably mozilla breaking it again.
 
2013-04-19 03:17:27 PM

mrshowrules: fatalvenom: What happens now, play two games in one day now??!?!?

That doesn't happen.


Shouldn't it?

Hockey doubleheader!
 
2013-04-19 03:17:36 PM

yookaloco: Knockb


I'm picking the Knicks over them.. your offense is too strong.

Also- i don't want the fake bandwagon support and sympathy from actual real life.. to bleed over into sports.
not like this.. not from this.
 
2013-04-19 03:17:39 PM
"open mic" - DRINK!
 
2013-04-19 03:17:48 PM

miss diminutive: atomicmask: miss diminutive: atomicmask: You are leaving out he part where they were taken over by arabs, then mongols, that typically results in the population getting bred with arab or mongol blood. Hence why they look like arabs and have arab features.

By that logic (I use the term loosely) that would make Spanish, Hungarian, Chinese, Serbian, Lithuanian, Ukrainian, Polish and countless other people "Arabs".

Also, still mum about the Newton father being a paid actor and his daughter's death being staged? Or does your selective bullshiat memory not go back that far?

Yes, it does. When the people of those countries and cultures desplay arabic features, such as longer noses light tan skin and black curly hair.

and yes I still think the newton shiat was staged, deal with it.

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Yup, the fact that you think a mass murder of children and teachers was entirely staged pretty much lets us know how much value to place in your reasoning. I'm not even going to touch your "arabic features" comment, especially since Mongoloid features are generally associated with straight hair and flatter noses. But you keep herping that derp.

Aaaaaaanyway, moving on.


/golfclap
 
2013-04-19 03:17:51 PM

Danger Avoid Death: WTF are "Muslim style shoes?"

/from the scanner.


www.nightmarefactory.com
 
2013-04-19 03:17:52 PM
Father going full derp

Uncle going full Sheik

Aunt going full biatch
 
2013-04-19 03:17:53 PM

Shyla: TMZ says reddit has a 100% authentic picture of the deceased suspect. I tried to find it on reddit but I can never find anything on that mess of a website.


I located a direct link. Authentic or not, the image is very graphic; the body shows an injury inconsistent with a bullet wound (in addition to several consistent with a bullet wound).
 
2013-04-19 03:18:04 PM

mrshowrules: fatalvenom: What happens now, play two games in one day now??!?!?

That doesn't happen.



No shiat.
 
2013-04-19 03:18:08 PM

eddievercetti: robsul82: CNN just announced the Honda thing.

Knowing CNN, they reported it as a Toyota.


Yes, of course, the green Toyota Civic.
 
2013-04-19 03:18:11 PM

Russ1642: Their father has gone full retard now.


I guess it's hard to look in the mirror and realize you raised two monsters. This 'full retard' moment is probably a form of self defence for his psyche.
 
2013-04-19 03:18:12 PM
Russian women are okay.

Good card players, but I wouldn't give them the time of day.
 
2013-04-19 03:18:14 PM

LawPD: been sitting here at work watching the feed from CNN with the cops all mulling around on the street. Wish Anderson would just wander over there and tell that one blond cop that he's been itching his nuts on national TV for like the last 5 minutes.


Anderson will scratch it for him ... with his tonsils.
 
2013-04-19 03:18:14 PM

atomicmask: Chechens are not white. The first use of the word Chechen comes from arabic to describe the village of Chechen-al. They are a mixture of russian and arab. They are also muslim.


Ready to apologize ultra libs? Remember how you said these where two white frat boys? Remember how you said I was crazy because I said they had arab features?

Damn it must suck to be so god damn wrong all the time. But fark should be used to that.


Congratulations! You're a racist profiler level one. Step up and collect your prize.
 
2013-04-19 03:18:22 PM

pretzel_chic: Shyla: TMZ says reddit has a 100% authentic picture of the deceased suspect. I tried to find it on reddit but I can never find anything on that mess of a website.

Here ya go:
http://www.reddit.com/r/gore


Al Gore has his own subreddit?

*clicks*

AHHHHHH AHHHHHHH
 
2013-04-19 03:18:25 PM

r0Be: Treygreen13: The dad was just on CNN blaming the police for his son's death.

Who's dad?  The MIT officer's?


The father of these two bombers.
 
2013-04-19 03:18:26 PM

styckx: The father thinks we set up his kids.. Oh dear lord


i.imgur.com
 
2013-04-19 03:18:31 PM

YoungSwedishBlonde: So someone needs to explain this to me.

With the entirety of the USA looking for you having bombed the Boston Marathon, why would you go knock off a 7/11?


Munchies.
 
2013-04-19 03:18:34 PM
i306.photobucket.com

They were set up!

/nut
//sounds like Rosie Perez
 
2013-04-19 03:18:36 PM

wjllope: "open mic" - DRINK!


Holy shait, I'd be dead in two hours
 
2013-04-19 03:18:48 PM

Shyla: TeddyRooseveltsMustache: Shyla: TMZ says reddit has a 100% authentic picture of the deceased suspect. I tried to find it on reddit but I can never find anything on that mess of a website.

It's not pretty. You don't wanna see it.

Yes I do. I'm twisted like that.


Try two threads back, CTRL-F'ing for  0U0ozqt.jpg
 
2013-04-19 03:18:58 PM
Is it bed that I am so tired, that I just yeled atthe scanner.. "Just blow everything up already so I can go to ed!!!!!)
 
2013-04-19 03:19:11 PM

rufus-t-firefly: Bullseyed: ourbigdumbmouth: In before the white person deniers show up.

They're one country north of Arabia, so suddenly they're white.

Actually, Chechnya is north of Iran, which is not Arabic. Between Chechnya and Iran are Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan - none of which are Arabic. Oh, and they're also NE of Turkey, which is also not Arabic.

But other than those little details, you're spot-on.

And, as a bonus,  Chechnya contains part of the Caucasus Mountains.

"Caucasus" is where we get the word "Caucasian."

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So what you're saying is these two guys were Arabic Muslims?  KNEW IT
 
2013-04-19 03:19:16 PM

CygnusDarius: Boojum2k: CygnusDarius: @JohnFugelsang 16m

Reminder - 45 Senators just voted to let Dzhokhar Tsarnaev buy weapons at gun shows w/no inconvenient background checks.

I'm wondering, before the bombing, what about him would have caused him to fail a background check? The Islamic thing? Immigrant?

From my understanding -I may be wrong- but gun shows don't have background checks like you would have in a store, am I right?.


Not my question. Rewind one week, what about this guy would have caused him to fail a background check at a store?
 
2013-04-19 03:19:20 PM

Danger Avoid Death: FrancoFile: Really important question here:


Do we have a drinking game for this yet?

You drink a shot every time someone says "Honda".


That's "hawn-der"
 
2013-04-19 03:19:26 PM

muck4doo: muck4doo: Amos Quito: muck4doo: Can't get over this. A 19 year old kid gets himself into this position. Meanwhile his elder teachers keep living on with no shame.

Yeah, reminds me of how it's old fart politicians START the wars, but they always send gullible young kids off to fight and die for King and Country.

Same psychology, I presume.

I hate it. Sacrificing the children of others for the win I suppose.

Are we really that different from Carthage?


Personally, I don't have nearly as many elephants.
 
2013-04-19 03:19:29 PM

darth_badger: One cop was just debriefed and relieved. Does that mean he took his underwear down and pooped?


ok I just LOL'ed so hard....
 
2013-04-19 03:19:32 PM

r0Be: Treygreen13: The dad was just on CNN blaming the police for his son's death.

Who's dad?  The MIT officer's?


The father of the bombers. He also said that the sons were "being framed".
 
2013-04-19 03:19:33 PM
I cant even type any more. FML
 
2013-04-19 03:19:37 PM
Go ahead, get high on 4/20.  I dare you.pbs.twimg.com
 
2013-04-19 03:19:38 PM
This is a false flag operation to take attention off the Gosnell trial. Liberals will do anything to cover up the murder of 500 million babies in the last week.

/Channeling Glenn Beck.
 
2013-04-19 03:19:46 PM

Dingleberry Dickwad: Russ1642: So it's 2013 and law enforcement can't figure out how not to have all their communications intercepted by scanners and posted online. I assume that a 19 year old suspect knows how to use the internet.

Well to be fair, as I mentioned in one of the other threads, trying to coordinate multiple agencies and departments to all have the same encryption and same channels is a nightmare. When things get to the scale they are in Boston where multiple cities, agencies and so forth are all trying to coordinate, an unencrypted analog channel is about the only thing that will work worth a damn. I can't speak for the Boston area, but throughout most of my state the only agencies that use digital channels, trunking channels or encryption are County Sheriff departments and state troopers. Fire and EMS departments here typically won't even use digital or trunking channels, and won't use encryption. Hell it took 9/11 happening to get to the point where putting together mutual aid frequencies for use through an entire state was even conceived.


So they suck at communicating. They know it's a major issue but they don't fix it.
 
2013-04-19 03:19:54 PM
 
2013-04-19 03:19:57 PM
s3-ec.buzzfed.com
The bombs in question?
 
2013-04-19 03:20:01 PM

Danger Avoid Death: Cappalotti: Whoa, that one cop sounded like a drunk Cajun with a mouth full of marbles.

Leave my family out of this.


www.palookavillepost.com
 
2013-04-19 03:20:02 PM
moss covered epic six thread gredunza
 
2013-04-19 03:20:10 PM
Needs more news flash.

/can't wait to go back to not-caring about Boston.
 
2013-04-19 03:20:13 PM
he's definitely hiding under someone's moss covered three handled family gredunza. those things have a lot of space.
 
2013-04-19 03:20:14 PM

ckayser: Is it bed that I am so tired, that I just yeled atthe scanner.. "Just blow everything up already so I can go to ed!!!!!)


Ed's here. He says don't worry about it, tomorrow's fine too.
 
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