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(Slate)   Chechen President Ramzan Kadyrov on Boston bombing suspects: "They grew up in the United States; their attitudes and beliefs were formed there. It is necessary to seek the root of this evil in America"   (slate.com) divider line 57
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2013-04-19 12:14:59 PM
Want one of them quoted saying they have no American friends because they don't understand them?
 
2013-04-19 12:15:34 PM
I was going to blame the Russians, although I guess for a Chechan President that's probably a good way to end up committing suicide via ten gunshot wounds to the back of the head.
 
2013-04-19 12:16:01 PM
One of them grew up here. The other I want to see what he learned before he came here.

Or the ultimate muddying: they both were radicalized by watching Chechen videos on the Internet.
 
2013-04-19 12:18:08 PM
Supposedly the younger one - the one now on the loose - is a pothead. His friends said "how could be be a terrorist? he's such a stoner."
 
2013-04-19 12:18:26 PM
Go read about this guy. He's a psycho killer, crazier than the bombers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramzan_Kadyrov
 
2013-04-19 12:20:26 PM
I wonder if this is going to be a "crazy big brother convinced little brother" situation.
 
2013-04-19 12:20:27 PM
according to all the reports i'm hearing/reading, the family barely lived in chechnya at all due to (early on) being part of a mass forced exodus, and (later on) the beginnings of the first chechnyan war, which a family member has said they wanted no part of, having spent almost no time in chechnya to begin with

so, it's looking like they have more to do with kyrgystan (sp?) and usa than they do with chechnya
 
2013-04-19 12:21:16 PM
Oh please. A large segment of the American public cannot deal with the idea that a Black President born in Hawaii is a "Real American." Do you really think they're going to buy that a Muslim born in Chechnya who attacked Boston is an "American?" Pardon me for being cynical, but biatch, please.
 
2013-04-19 12:21:51 PM

vernonFL: Supposedly the younger one - the one now on the loose - is a pothead. His friends said "how could be be a terrorist? he's such a stoner."


BAN pot!  Pot heads turn into muslim child killing rapist bombers.
 
2013-04-19 12:22:26 PM
fark you kadyrov, no one was blaming your country so why dont you shut your pie hole.
 
2013-04-19 12:22:53 PM
These men were 19 and 26 and came to the US 8 or 9 years ago from what I've heard reported.  As they were already 11 and 18 and continued to live in a Chechen community, I think their values are totally Chechen, President Kadyrov.
 
2013-04-19 12:23:10 PM

Voiceofreason01: I was going to blame the Russians, although I guess for a Chechan President that's probably a good way to end up committing suicide via ten gunshot wounds to the back of the head.


Hardly. Pooty-poot will simply have him over for tea so they can discuss their differences.
 
2013-04-19 12:23:25 PM

Blues_X: I wonder if this is going to be a "crazy big brother convinced little brother" situation.


seems that way

vernonFL: Supposedly the younger one - the one now on the loose - is a pothead. His friends said "how could be be a terrorist? he's such a stoner."


at my 2nd job i work with a lot of people (mostly younger...late-teens, early-20s) from many other countries...middle eastern, some eastern european, asian, african...many of whom are apparent potheads. some of them look the part of your stereotypical middle eastern terrorist...but act like normal american stoners. i would not suspect them in anything.
 
2013-04-19 12:24:58 PM
Thanks Captain Obvious.

I was at Orange Leaf, a frozen yogurt place, yesterday.  They staff nothing but snotty seventeen year old kids who think customer service has something to do with them receiving tips.  Anyway, this little biatch with black eye make-up and her uniform shiat tied in a not to show her belly button was working the register.  I brought up my typical 55 ounce waffle cone, half peanut butter, half mint chocolate chip.  She was a skinny little thing, so she looked at me and my ailing thyroid like I'd crawled out of the sea.  I wanted to scream at her about how I walked on the treadmill for almost twenty minutes - EARNING MY TREAT - but I knew the concept of working to earn something meant nothing to her.  Then disaster struck - while reaching for my wallet, I lost my balance, nearly toppled over backward, and simultaneously dropped my entire beautiful cone on the floor.  I'd spent a lot of time making it perfect, a little pride in my work - another concept foreign to this little twit.

First thing she says, lips snarled, "You still have to pay for that, you know."

Ok, fine.  I dropped it.  My bad.  But don't you think you might say, "Oh, I'm so sorry your beautiful cone fell on the floor.  That could really mess up your day.  It's like you got eyelid cancer and the only cure is removing them.  Not mortal, but boy, that sure stings.  I'M SORRY."

Instead I get, "You still have to pay."

I almost stormed out, but my blood sugar was so low from exercising all morning that I had to bear her judging glare as I lowered myself to the ground and used just my lips and mouth to eat the part of the yogurt that wasn't touching the ground.  I didn't even bother cleaning up the few millimeter barrier; instead, I went and made myself a decent cone and paid for them both.  I guess you could say that I showed her!
 
2013-04-19 12:26:32 PM

Derek Force:

Uhhh...  Plenty of people have been blaming Muslims and Chechnya.

 
2013-04-19 12:28:01 PM

vernonFL: Supposedly the younger one - the one now on the loose - is a pothead. His friends said "how could be be a terrorist? he's such a stoner."


If anything, the subsequent shooting and carjacking shows the elder one is incredibly stupid.  I wouldn't be surprised if the younger would have never done anything sans his older brother.

Not that it absolves him of any guilt in any way.  But maybe this guy would have been just another lazy stoner if the older brother never existed.  Too bad though.  Now we got a handful of people dead and lots brutally injured.  And this guy is going to FPMITA prison for a long long time.  If he's captured alive, you can bet that people will howl for him to go to gitmo and then be executed.
 
2013-04-19 12:29:20 PM

Somacandra: Oh please. A large segment of the American public cannot deal with the idea that a Black President born in Hawaii is a "Real American." Do you really think they're going to buy that a Muslim born in Chechnya who attacked Boston is an "American?" Pardon me for being cynical, but biatch, please.


truth.
these "birthers" obviously are stupid and/or ignorant enough to believe that there aren't extensive background checks performed on folks who hold high offices in our country. heck, i work for the gov't...just a lowly entry-level worker bee...and they did a thorough background check on me, including contacting people i know to gain info about me. to accuse the usa of allowing someone who was not born in the usa to become president is just asinine.
truth: obama was born in hawaii
truth: he has family in, and has lived himself in, kenya
he is by far not the first american to have family in, nor to live in, another country outside the usa
 
2013-04-19 12:30:59 PM

spentmiles: Thanks Captain Obvious.


Is this some new copypasta?
 
2013-04-19 12:33:17 PM

bungle_jr: so, it's looking like they have more to do with kyrgystan (sp?) and usa than they do with chechnya


Maybe they're getting ready to demand another shipment of vowels?
 
2013-04-19 12:33:59 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Derek Force:Uhhh...  Plenty of people have been blaming Muslims and Chechnya.


I blame Massachusetts, wrestlers and stoners.
 
2013-04-19 12:35:11 PM

Derek Force: fark you kadyrov, no one was blaming your country so why dont you shut your pie hole.


I was. Sorry, my bad. Should I not have done that?
I'm the CNN of blame
 
2013-04-19 12:39:25 PM
muslims
 
2013-04-19 12:39:42 PM

spentmiles: Thanks Captain Obvious.

I was at Orange Leaf, a frozen yogurt place, yesterday.  They staff nothing but snotty seventeen year old kids who think customer service has something to do with them receiving tips.  Anyway, this little biatch with black eye make-up and her uniform shiat tied in a not to show her belly button was working the register.  I brought up my typical 55 ounce waffle cone, half peanut butter, half mint chocolate chip...



Peanut butter and mint chip? You are history's greatest monster.
 
2013-04-19 12:44:25 PM
Well, the president is right. The root of evil is in America. If nothing else the response the last 12 hours proves that. The only way we know how to respond to an over-the-top action is with an even more over-he-top reaction. Whatever happened to," stay calm. breathe"? We "lock down" an entire city in the search for one man; people at the bus stops were told to go home and they went; that is the a cavern capitulation to evil. Yesterday a bomb blast in an Iraqi cafe killed 27 people. Life went on.

Only when we stop the drama will the drama stop.
 
2013-04-19 12:47:18 PM

Walker: Go read about this guy. He's a psycho killer, crazier than the bombers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramzan_Kadyrov


Wow, supports honor killings and makes prisoners masterbate while he has sex in front of them. Quite a combo.
 
2013-04-19 12:48:15 PM

i_got_no_strings: spentmiles: Thanks Captain Obvious.

I was at Orange Leaf, a frozen yogurt place, yesterday.  They staff nothing but snotty seventeen year old kids who think customer service has something to do with them receiving tips.  Anyway, this little biatch with black eye make-up and her uniform shiat tied in a not to show her belly button was working the register.  I brought up my typical 55 ounce waffle cone, half peanut butter, half mint chocolate chip...


Peanut butter and mint chip? You are history's greatest monster.


I thought that was Joel Schumacher
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-04-19 12:49:01 PM
No shiat asshole.
 
2013-04-19 12:50:05 PM
You can take the trash out of the trailer but you can't take the trailer out of the trash
 
2013-04-19 12:51:31 PM
This has sent me scrambling to update my historical and geopolitical comprehension of the region.

/So, Who really is the President of Uz-becky-becky-becky-Stan?
 
2013-04-19 12:54:45 PM

Blues_X: I wonder if this is going to be a "crazy big brother convinced little brother" situation.



I keep hearing that but think about it: how do you "convince" someone to become a murdering psychopath? If your sibling said "let's go blow some people up", even if they built up to it gradually, how many people would go along with it? I would hope almost nobody.
 
2013-04-19 12:55:29 PM

bungle_jr: Somacandra: Oh please. A large segment of the American public cannot deal with the idea that a Black President born in Hawaii is a "Real American." Do you really think they're going to buy that a Muslim born in Chechnya who attacked Boston is an "American?" Pardon me for being cynical, but biatch, please.

truth.
these "birthers" obviously are stupid and/or ignorant enough to believe that there aren't extensive background checks performed on folks who hold high offices in our country. heck, i work for the gov't...just a lowly entry-level worker bee...and they did a thorough background check on me, including contacting people i know to gain info about me. to accuse the usa of allowing someone who was not born in the usa to become president is just asinine.
truth: obama was born in hawaii
truth: he has family in, and has lived himself in, kenya
he is by far not the first american to have family in, nor to live in, another country outside the usa


I've tried that.  "Uh, you know Obama's got a Level 5 NATO ATOMAL security clearance, right?  There isn't a person on the planet with a higher clearance than Barry."

"SEKRET MUSLIM KENYA IMCPEEEH!"

Birthers are like dropping your car keys in molten lava.  Just let em go man, they're gone.
 
2013-04-19 01:00:34 PM
Ah, in other words he agrees with Rev Wright, president Barry, and some of the libs running the administration?  Well, good to know.
 
2013-04-19 01:11:30 PM
I was going to cut the dude some slack, as the media did go full deep on the whole "Checznya!" thing...but then I realized that people in glass houses really shouldn't walk around naked.
 
2013-04-19 01:13:17 PM
it could be just a translation thing, and what he was saying (and hoping) is that these are not Chechen terrorists, but rather terrorists who happened to be born in Chechnya.
 
2013-04-19 01:14:56 PM

vernonFL: Supposedly the younger one - the one now on the loose - is a pothead. His friends said "how could be be a terrorist? he's such a stoner."


I don't know which one is on the run, but it is easy to picture a stoner being a paranoid sheep.

On a somewhat unrelated note, doesn't "The Anarchist's Cookbook" extoll the virtues of marijuana?
 
2013-04-19 01:40:10 PM

CoonAce: vernonFL: Supposedly the younger one - the one now on the loose - is a pothead. His friends said "how could be be a terrorist? he's such a stoner."

I don't know which one is on the run, but it is easy to picture a stoner being a paranoid sheep.

On a somewhat unrelated note, doesn't "The Anarchist's Cookbook" extoll the virtues of marijuana?


So does all the documentation which allowed various states to pass Medical Marijuana laws...
 
2013-04-19 01:44:18 PM
if only they had been raised in Germany. No one who speaks German can be evil
 
2013-04-19 02:00:36 PM

SoupJohnB: This has sent me scrambling to update my historical and geopolitical comprehension of the region.

/So, Who really is the President of Uz-becky-becky-becky-Stan?


To be fair nobody can really comprehend what goes on in that region.
 
2013-04-19 02:05:26 PM

Derek Force: fark you kadyrov, no one was blaming your country so why dont you shut your pie hole.


And take off that pussy hat...
 
2013-04-19 02:07:35 PM

mr_a: it could be just a translation thing, and what he was saying (and hoping) is that these are not Chechen terrorists, but rather terrorists who happened to be born in Chechnya.


No, he was deflecting and blaming. There's a difference. He's well aware of the active ties between Chechen groups and Al Qaeda, for example. Even the Council on Foreign Relations admits to such interaction.
 
2013-04-19 02:13:21 PM
Who is this Stan guy and why are so many countries named after him?
 
2013-04-19 02:28:40 PM

bungle_jr: Somacandra: Oh please. A large segment of the American public cannot deal with the idea that a Black President born in Hawaii is a "Real American." Do you really think they're going to buy that a Muslim born in Chechnya who attacked Boston is an "American?" Pardon me for being cynical, but biatch, please.

truth.
these "birthers" obviously are stupid and/or ignorant enough to believe that there aren't extensive background checks performed on folks who hold high offices in our country. heck, i work for the gov't...just a lowly entry-level worker bee...and they did a thorough background check on me, including contacting people i know to gain info about me. to accuse the usa of allowing someone who was not born in the usa to become president is just asinine.
truth: obama was born in hawaii
truth: he has family in, and has lived himself in, kenya
he is by far not the first american to have family in, nor to live in, another country outside the usa


Thank God for Democrats.  Without them, I'd  honestly never have any idea there was a question about whether or not Obama was an "American".
 
2013-04-19 02:31:46 PM

worlddan: Well, the president is right. The root of evil is in America. If nothing else the response the last 12 hours proves that. The only way we know how to respond to an over-the-top action is with an even more over-he-top reaction. Whatever happened to," stay calm. breathe"? We "lock down" an entire city in the search for one man; people at the bus stops were told to go home and they went; that is the a cavern capitulation to evil. Yesterday a bomb blast in an Iraqi cafe killed 27 people. Life went on.

Only when we stop the drama will the drama stop.


Enjoy your stay in Gitmo. We'll have none of that terrorist sympathizing nonsense around here.
 
2013-04-19 02:40:01 PM
Really!?
Going to the Nationalism Card for  EVIL/CRAZY SOCIOPATHS seems it's own special self serving hypocrisy.
 
2013-04-19 02:45:40 PM

hasty ambush: SoupJohnB: This has sent me scrambling to update my historical and geopolitical comprehension of the region.

/So, Who really is the President of Uz-becky-becky-becky-Stan?

To be fair nobody can really comprehend what goes on in that region.


I tried to locate Chechnya on a (paper) World Map, from Doctors w/o Borders.  According to this Rand McNally version, it did not exist - there were no borders or other lines of delineation and demarcation to indicate such a nation state.

Decided that either this was the point of the Doctors, or Rand McNally just gave up on trying to keep it current.
 
2013-04-19 02:57:38 PM
That danged Yankee cowboy Josef Stalin and his genocidal mass deportations.
 
2013-04-19 03:05:40 PM
graphics8.nytimes.com
oi34.tinypic.com
 
2013-04-19 03:12:13 PM

kbronsito: if only they had been raised in Germany. No one who speaks German can be evil


Please.  Everyone knows that british accent means that there's a hoodie covered wrinkled man with red eyes ordering a damaged man in a life support suit around
 
2013-04-19 03:18:42 PM

Walker: Go read about this guy. He's a psycho killer, crazier than the bombers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramzan_Kadyrov


He's a horrible, evil person.

Who also looks so much like an ex of mine that his pics skeeve me out.

/ex was a fairly nice guy.
//until he dumped me via text.
 
2013-04-19 03:43:46 PM
older bro was quite possibly an abducted child soldier for chechnian rebels, the guys who did that theater in russia

his dad is CLEARLY schitz, so maybe he was too.
 
2013-04-19 03:57:19 PM

Walker: Go read about this guy. He's a psycho killer, crazier than the bombers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramzan_Kadyrov


Qu'est-ce que c'est?
 
2013-04-19 04:07:36 PM

spentmiles: Thanks Captain Obvious.

I was at Orange Leaf, a frozen yogurt place, yesterday.  They staff nothing but snotty seventeen year old kids who think customer service has something to do with them receiving tips.  Anyway, this little biatch with black eye make-up and her uniform shiat tied in a not to show her belly button was working the register.  I brought up my typical 55 ounce waffle cone, half peanut butter, half mint chocolate chip.  She was a skinny little thing, so she looked at me and my ailing thyroid like I'd crawled out of the sea.  I wanted to scream at her about how I walked on the treadmill for almost twenty minutes - EARNING MY TREAT - but I knew the concept of working to earn something meant nothing to her.  Then disaster struck - while reaching for my wallet, I lost my balance, nearly toppled over backward, and simultaneously dropped my entire beautiful cone on the floor.  I'd spent a lot of time making it perfect, a little pride in my work - another concept foreign to this little twit.

First thing she says, lips snarled, "You still have to pay for that, you know."

Ok, fine.  I dropped it.  My bad.  But don't you think you might say, "Oh, I'm so sorry your beautiful cone fell on the floor.  That could really mess up your day.  It's like you got eyelid cancer and the only cure is removing them.  Not mortal, but boy, that sure stings.  I'M SORRY."

Instead I get, "You still have to pay."

I almost stormed out, but my blood sugar was so low from exercising all morning that I had to bear her judging glare as I lowered myself to the ground and used just my lips and mouth to eat the part of the yogurt that wasn't touching the ground.  I didn't even bother cleaning up the few millimeter barrier; instead, I went and made myself a decent cone and paid for them both.  I guess you could say that I showed her!



I applaud your effort. You most assuredly have a extra dense skeleton as well, given your obvious thyroid disorder. The labor you invested in salvaging some of that frozen yogurt was probably wasted on the self-absorbed twit.
 
2013-04-19 04:08:13 PM

spentmiles: Thanks Captain Obvious.
'

Wow spentmiles- you're working up to the level of PocketNinja- you'll definitely get some nibbles from the peanutbutter and mint remark
(ughhhh... shuddering from that)
 
2013-04-19 05:13:20 PM
photo.parismatch.com
 
2013-04-19 07:05:39 PM

worlddan: Well, the president is right. The root of evil is in America. If nothing else the response the last 12 hours proves that. The only way we know how to respond to an over-the-top action is with an even more over-he-top reaction. Whatever happened to," stay calm. breathe"? We "lock down" an entire city in the search for one man; people at the bus stops were told to go home and they went; that is the a cavern capitulation to evil. Yesterday a bomb blast in an Iraqi cafe killed 27 people. Life went on.

Only when we stop the drama will the drama stop.


Very insightful post. The idea that we should continue on living through terror and violence has ended all strife in countries like Israel, Palestine, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, Iran, Iraq, Somalia, Sudan, India, Pakistan, Mexico, Columbia, Mali, Algeria, Morocco, Chad... Eff this. You get my point.


/in case you didn't
/My point is that you're an under informed moron making gross generalizations about the nature if conflict around the world.
 
2013-04-19 07:31:14 PM

bungle_jr: Somacandra: Oh please. A large segment of the American public cannot deal with the idea that a Black President born in Hawaii is a "Real American." Do you really think they're going to buy that a Muslim born in Chechnya who attacked Boston is an "American?" Pardon me for being cynical, but biatch, please.

truth.
these "birthers" obviously are stupid and/or ignorant enough to believe that there aren't extensive background checks performed on folks who hold high offices in our country. heck, i work for the gov't...just a lowly entry-level worker bee...and they did a thorough background check on me, including contacting people i know to gain info about me. to accuse the usa of allowing someone who was not born in the usa to become president is just asinine.
truth: obama was born in hawaii
truth: he has family in, and has lived himself in, kenya
he is by far not the first american to have family in, nor to live in, another country outside the usa


But this does raise a question about why the left is so gung ho about background checking Americans who want to buy a gun but do not want back ground checks done on people that want to come here to live.
 
2013-04-20 03:29:27 AM
The kid is named after Tamerlane; the sword of Islam and the man responsible for the complete destruction of Christianity in Asia, and an historical that is hated even in much of the arab world because of the atrocities he carried out. I wonder what kind of values his parents brought him up with.
 
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