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(Apple Insider)   "Siri, what is 'respecting the privacy of users?' *beep*Beep* "hell if I know, boss"   (appleinsider.com) divider line 32
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2013-04-19 01:33:06 PM  
Yes, anonymized data kept for a period to improve services before deletion IS a huge concern. I should give many farks about this.

/nah
 
2013-04-19 01:33:32 PM  
Newsflash. Data is collected when you reference outside sources for information.
 
2013-04-19 01:38:37 PM  

LasersHurt: Yes, anonymized data kept for a period to improve services before deletion IS a huge concern. I should give many farks about this.

/nah


Unless you have a notable voice.

"Gawker has obtained audio recordings of Lidnsey Lohan asking Siri where to find cocaine. You may find them, along with our annotated history of every upskirt photo of Lindsey Lohan ever taken at http://www.gawker.com/upskirt "
 
2013-04-19 01:39:09 PM  
Siri, please listen in on this highly confidential board meeting to calibrate your microphone for background noise.
 
2013-04-19 01:40:23 PM  
You mean if I give Apple access to my information, Apple will have access to my information?
 
2013-04-19 01:43:19 PM  

LasersHurt: Yes, anonymized data kept for a period to improve services before deletion IS a huge concern. I should give many farks about this.

/nah


keeping data, particular recordings of people's voice without their explicit permission is very problematic.  Yes they claim to anonymize it, but de-indentification is a difficult and complex subject (I have to deal with it professionally a lot) you'd be suprised what experts can do to identify people from seemingly disparate pieces of innocous data.  One has advised us that simply knowing a person;s zipcode, if 20,000 people or less live in that zipcode, combined with one other semi-biographical piece of information (say the price of thier house, their favorite resturant, how many kids they have) is sufficent to potentially identify them
 
2013-04-19 01:47:58 PM  

fluffy2097: LasersHurt: Yes, anonymized data kept for a period to improve services before deletion IS a huge concern. I should give many farks about this.

/nah

Unless you have a notable voice.

"Gawker has obtained audio recordings of Lidnsey Lohan asking Siri where to find cocaine. You may find them, along with our annotated history of every upskirt photo of Lindsey Lohan ever taken at http://www.gawker.com/upskirt "


Magorn: LasersHurt: Yes, anonymized data kept for a period to improve services before deletion IS a huge concern. I should give many farks about this.

/nah

keeping data, particular recordings of people's voice without their explicit permission is very problematic.  Yes they claim to anonymize it, but de-indentification is a difficult and complex subject (I have to deal with it professionally a lot) you'd be suprised what experts can do to identify people from seemingly disparate pieces of innocous data.  One has advised us that simply knowing a person;s zipcode, if 20,000 people or less live in that zipcode, combined with one other semi-biographical piece of information (say the price of thier house, their favorite resturant, how many kids they have) is sufficent to potentially identify them


Right, but is it worth getting your panties entirely twisted on the off chance that someone hacks, steals, re-identified, and then... bothers you with your Siri usage?

Acknowledging and going "hmm." is one thing. Saying "Hey Apple, precisely what are you doing to keep this safe?" is fair too. shiatting ones britches (a la "omg privacies" in the headline) is just foolish.
 
2013-04-19 01:52:53 PM  
I'm pretty anti Apple and pro HTC but from what TFA says I don't really see a problem.
 
2013-04-19 01:57:11 PM  

LasersHurt: fluffy2097: LasersHurt: Yes, anonymized data kept for a period to improve services before deletion IS a huge concern. I should give many farks about this.

/nah

Unless you have a notable voice.

"Gawker has obtained audio recordings of Lidnsey Lohan asking Siri where to find cocaine. You may find them, along with our annotated history of every upskirt photo of Lindsey Lohan ever taken at http://www.gawker.com/upskirt "

Magorn: LasersHurt: Yes, anonymized data kept for a period to improve services before deletion IS a huge concern. I should give many farks about this.

/nah

keeping data, particular recordings of people's voice without their explicit permission is very problematic.  Yes they claim to anonymize it, but de-indentification is a difficult and complex subject (I have to deal with it professionally a lot) you'd be suprised what experts can do to identify people from seemingly disparate pieces of innocous data.  One has advised us that simply knowing a person;s zipcode, if 20,000 people or less live in that zipcode, combined with one other semi-biographical piece of information (say the price of thier house, their favorite resturant, how many kids they have) is sufficent to potentially identify them

Right, but is it worth getting your panties entirely twisted on the off chance that someone hacks, steals, re-identified, and then... bothers you with your Siri usage?

Acknowledging and going "hmm." is one thing. Saying "Hey Apple, precisely what are you doing to keep this safe?" is fair too. shiatting ones britches (a la "omg privacies" in the headline) is just foolish.


I'm less ocncerned about what a hacker might do with the data and more concernd with what Apple itself might do with it beyond improving Siri.  I dislaike large very rich corporations have access to data mines like these.  yes you could say the same thing about Google, but I've met Sergey and he seemed like a pretty decent human being and not a remorseless psychopath like Steve Jobs so I trust a little more the corporate cultrue he helped create and the people he surrounded himself with
 
2013-04-19 01:58:00 PM  
Siri, what does "anonymised" mean?
 
2013-04-19 02:00:13 PM  

Magorn: I'm less ocncerned about what a hacker might do with the data and more concernd with what Apple itself might do with it beyond improving Siri.  I dislaike large very rich corporations have access to data mines like these.  yes you could say the same thing about Google, but I've met Sergey and he seemed like a pretty decent human being and not a remorseless psychopath like Steve Jobs so I trust a little more the corporate cultrue he helped create and the people he surrounded himself with


I guess if you feel that way, just don't use Apple products then?
 
2013-04-19 02:02:54 PM  
If things like this bother you, you should probably move to a remote mountain with zero technology and eat grubs and roots, because someone somewhere is storing all sorts of shiat about you every farking day.
 
jvl
2013-04-19 02:12:20 PM  

gwowen: Siri, what does "anonymised" mean?


It means they keep the audio in a database and have no link to the original account/ipaddr/location it came from.
 
2013-04-19 02:19:42 PM  
www.thesmokingjacket.com

Siri, do you think we could have some privacy?
 
2013-04-19 02:28:41 PM  
Subby needs to read up on what information Google is harvesting from Android phones.
 
2013-04-19 02:35:25 PM  

LasersHurt: Magorn: I'm less ocncerned about what a hacker might do with the data and more concernd with what Apple itself might do with it beyond improving Siri.  I dislaike large very rich corporations have access to data mines like these.  yes you could say the same thing about Google, but I've met Sergey and he seemed like a pretty decent human being and not a remorseless psychopath like Steve Jobs so I trust a little more the corporate cultrue he helped create and the people he surrounded himself with

I guess if you feel that way, just don't use Apple products then?


generally no, I had an Ipod but only because I found it an was uncessful in finding its orignal owner, and that's been gatheriing dust since I got my Nexus tablet...but honestly not so much for principle but because I've never understood why you would pay thier prices when you can get equivalent functionality for half as much
 
2013-04-19 02:45:20 PM  

Magorn: LasersHurt: Magorn: I'm less ocncerned about what a hacker might do with the data and more concernd with what Apple itself might do with it beyond improving Siri.  I dislaike large very rich corporations have access to data mines like these.  yes you could say the same thing about Google, but I've met Sergey and he seemed like a pretty decent human being and not a remorseless psychopath like Steve Jobs so I trust a little more the corporate cultrue he helped create and the people he surrounded himself with

I guess if you feel that way, just don't use Apple products then?

generally no, I had an Ipod but only because I found it an was uncessful in finding its orignal owner, and that's been gatheriing dust since I got my Nexus tablet...but honestly not so much for principle but because I've never understood why you would pay thier prices when you can get equivalent functionality for half as much


I have the advantage of using lots of stuff without having to buy it, and I'll say that for a couple of years I would have chosen the iOS device. For my money, Android was a pain in my ass until at least 4.0. I have a Droid X with 2.3.4 on my desk that I hate. iOS has been smooth and reliable, if "limited".

Now, tides are turning for me. Lots of really slick Android devices out, iOS is looking dated, and BB and MS are getting into things (with... varied levels of success).

More on topic, I wouldn't really trust any of them with too much of my data, but I'm also not too paranoid if they say it's anonymized.
 
2013-04-19 03:14:31 PM  
Oh no, Apple is going to use all those times I asked for weather info and to set at timer against me!
 
2013-04-19 03:30:29 PM  
LasersHurt: Right, but is it worth getting your panties entirely twisted on the off chance that someone hacks, steals, re-identified, and then... bothers you with your Siri usage?

You don't want to know what's possible with large amounts of data (even anon data).

You get some anon data from here, some anon data from there, and soon enough, you have enough data to piece things together.

// I've seen some ridiculous/scary tech demos, and the only real limitation on some of this stuff was the storage requirements.
 
2013-04-19 03:35:56 PM  
Nonrepeating Rotating Binary:
If things like this bother you, you should probably move to a remote mountain with zero technology and eat grubs and roots, because someone somewhere is storing all sorts of shiat about you every farking day.

That doesn't make it right.  The correct response, notwithstanding how delicious grubs may be, is to demand that your elected representatives pass laws protecting your privacy from corporations that will otherwise use information about you in whatever way profits them the most.

(This of course presumes that your elected representatives give a fark about what you think about anything.)
 
2013-04-19 04:08:12 PM  
it's best to be legal in all subjects especially internet.

la cena del señor
 
2013-04-19 04:24:28 PM  

LasersHurt: Yes, anonymized data kept for a period to improve services before deletion IS a huge concern. I should give many farks about this.

/nah




I can't wait until we are able to do that with voice-call recordings. For service improvement of course.
 
2013-04-19 04:31:42 PM  

StoPPeRmobile: LasersHurt: Yes, anonymized data kept for a period to improve services before deletion IS a huge concern. I should give many farks about this.

/nah

I can't wait until we are able to do that with voice-call recordings. For service improvement of course.


So, every time I use Siri it's going to have to remind me that "this interaction may be recorded for quality assurance purposes"?  That's going to decrease its usability.
 
2013-04-19 05:04:02 PM  
Flamewar
 
2013-04-19 06:24:34 PM  
Protip: Siri only stores the information YOU give her.
 
2013-04-19 07:33:05 PM  
mentalitymagazine.com

This is the only Siri I would give two farks about.  All two of them.
 
2013-04-19 09:20:49 PM  
Raise your hand if you've ever asked Siri anything so personal you'd care if anyone ever heard it yourselves?
 
2013-04-19 09:46:44 PM  
your personal super secret personal private information = a sample of your voice?

*cockpunch* for stubby and modmin
 
2013-04-20 02:06:12 AM  
Dear everything keeping tabs on me: The answer is no, I'm not buying your shiat. Not even if you swear to never do another commercial with that stupid talking pig.
 
2013-04-20 07:41:19 AM  
my siri calls me daddy
 
2013-04-20 11:15:09 AM  

saintstryfe: Raise your hand if you've ever asked Siri anything so personal you'd care if anyone ever heard it yourselves?


Day 1: Hey this Siri thing is pretty cool!
Day 2 - 500: Siri? Oh yeah, I always forget about that...
 
2013-04-20 12:53:37 PM  
 
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