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2013-04-19 12:30:56 PM

GoldSpider: muck4doo: Atheists also governed during Stalin, Pol Pot, and Mao. How did those regimes turn out?

His point wasn't that only religion-governed states cause all the problems.


Like I said before, I'm against the idea that religion was the reason for the problem. There have been tons of religious people that have led their countries in the past that never did the things Stalin, Pol Pot, and Mao did, and led their nations well. If you don't want to blame atheism for those atrocities of those three, don't do the same when it comes to those who don't hold the same beliefs as you.
 
2013-04-19 12:31:17 PM

Agarista: monoski: Agarista: The dumb fark is probably bleeding out in some basement.  Get to him before he kicks it.

It would be nice to know why they did this. If they both die it will just be ridiculous speculation.

Exactly.  Get to him!


If they don't find him soon he my turn and begin the zombie panic.
 
2013-04-19 12:31:24 PM

Caffandtranqs: The father was interviewed and said in reference to the still alive, "If they kill him, all hell will break loose."


Of course. Bostonians want their revenge. Death is too kind for the bombers. And they only have one chance left to get their revenge.
 
2013-04-19 12:31:45 PM
I personally don't care who they are. I'm just glad they got the assholes. I really did appreciate the uncles candor though. I heard the presser earlier. The part I'm not necessarily buying is the part where he never saw the close up photos until the conference. Then he says yeah, thats them. Those pictures were everywhere. I can't believe that he hadn't seen them before.
 
2013-04-19 12:31:58 PM

cameroncrazy1984: the lord god: You see the world far to different than I do.

Yes, much like a black and white tv looks different from 1080p HD.


Ok wont just take the win. Well....nevermind.
 
2013-04-19 12:33:19 PM

muck4doo: GoldSpider: muck4doo: Atheists also governed during Stalin, Pol Pot, and Mao. How did those regimes turn out?

His point wasn't that only religion-governed states cause all the problems.

Like I said before, I'm against the idea that religion was the reason for the problem. There have been tons of religious people that have led their countries in the past that never did the things Stalin, Pol Pot, and Mao did, and led their nations well. If you don't want to blame atheism for those atrocities of those three, don't do the same when it comes to those who don't hold the same beliefs as you.


What I'm confused by is why you think those regimes used atheism as a reason for their atrocities?

The point is that Christians in government cite their religion as the motivation for passing these types of anti-gay and anti-abortion legislation. I don't remember ever reading Stalin saying that he'd send political enemies to the gulag because there is no god.
 
2013-04-19 12:33:39 PM

cameroncrazy1984: muck4doo: The thing I'm against is the thought that the religion was behind the problem.

You're saying that religion is not the problem with anti-gay and anti-abortion laws in Kansas?


GoldSpider: cameroncrazy1984: Right, only that the religious people cause problems only when they try to govern.

We seldom agree, but in this we do.

muck4doo: The thing I'm against is the thought that the religion was behind the problem.

Then you haven't been paying attention to the entire (pre)history of the human race.


The atheists in Russia, Cambodia, and China were such understanding people of those who were "different", weren't they? Just like you are understanding of those who are "different" now. You are tribals and don't even know it.
 
2013-04-19 12:34:12 PM

the lord god: cameroncrazy1984: the lord god: You see the world far to different than I do.

Yes, much like a black and white tv looks different from 1080p HD.

Ok wont just take the win. Well....nevermind.


No, you're great fun to play with. Well, aside from the fact that once you run out of points you start talking about who's "winning" and "losing"
 
2013-04-19 12:34:52 PM

muck4doo: The atheists in Russia, Cambodia, and China were such understanding people of those who were "different", weren't they? Just like you are understanding of those who are "different" now. You are tribals and don't even know it.


That's not the point. The point is that people like Sam Brownback are using Christianity to advance hateful legislation, and that is a problem.
 
2013-04-19 12:35:17 PM

cameroncrazy1984: muck4doo: GoldSpider: muck4doo: Atheists also governed during Stalin, Pol Pot, and Mao. How did those regimes turn out?

His point wasn't that only religion-governed states cause all the problems.

Like I said before, I'm against the idea that religion was the reason for the problem. There have been tons of religious people that have led their countries in the past that never did the things Stalin, Pol Pot, and Mao did, and led their nations well. If you don't want to blame atheism for those atrocities of those three, don't do the same when it comes to those who don't hold the same beliefs as you.

What I'm confused by is why you think those regimes used atheism as a reason for their atrocities?

The point is that Christians in government cite their religion as the motivation for passing these types of anti-gay and anti-abortion legislation. I don't remember ever reading Stalin saying that he'd send political enemies to the gulag because there is no god.


Read more history then. That is exactly what happened, and it wasn't the first time. Read about what happened during the French Revolution too.
 
2013-04-19 12:36:11 PM
Its a pity that the uncle can't drown his sorrows and disappointments in Vodka. Family reunions are gonna be awkward...
 
2013-04-19 12:36:34 PM

ninotchka: Myria: Sadly, the bombers are Muslims.  Cue another round of Islam-bashing by the American far right.  They'll mostly avoid talking about one of their own trying to commit murder-by-mail, of course.

The uncle seems like a decent person who is really pissed off right now by his nephews and the media.

Try marrying into a Muslim family. Live in a Muslim neighborhood. I have. I do not trust most of them ESPECIALLY Salafis. I am a whore Christian anyways in their eyes. My in-laws call me a dog and a prostitute. They ignore my kids because they are "half-breeds". SOmetimes I wish I never studied Russian because I would rather be ignorant and think Muslims are so peaceful except for a few crazies. I so wish I could go back to ignorance.


Why wouldn't you stand up for yourself? I'm an atheist living in sin with a Mormon girl. They tried just once to give me a hard time and after I had said my piece and walked out of their 'family' gathering my common law wife said her bit and walked out right behind me. They may not like me but they damn well respect me and quite a few of them had privately congratulated me. It turns out that they weren't such a united front after all. It just took one person to call them on their bullshiat.
 
2013-04-19 12:37:32 PM
Winnebago or "wanna bagel"? The scanner traffic has me confused.
 
2013-04-19 12:37:47 PM

cameroncrazy1984: muck4doo: The atheists in Russia, Cambodia, and China were such understanding people of those who were "different", weren't they? Just like you are understanding of those who are "different" now. You are tribals and don't even know it.

That's not the point. The point is that people like Sam Brownback are using Christianity to advance hateful legislation, and that is a problem.


And you can call him a tribal. Don't go being a tribal yourself. I like and respect you Cameron. I'm not trying to insult you, but think you are wrong on this. This is how we get people wanting to attack Muslims. You just picked a wider group to hate on. The religious.
 
2013-04-19 12:37:49 PM

Anastacya: Its a pity that the uncle can't drown his sorrows and disappointments in Vodka. Family reunions are gonna be awkward...


Awkward, hell. This is the kind of thing that stops future family reunions from happening at all.
 
2013-04-19 12:37:52 PM
Fun Fact: Dzhokhar became a US citizen on Sept. 11, 2012
 
2013-04-19 12:37:58 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Aaaand Muslims. Goddammit.


... Yeah.  THAT's the worst part of all this.

o_O
 
2013-04-19 12:38:29 PM

Captain Steroid: Well, THIS is one hell of a way to spend my birthday. :/


1995 was probably a fun one for you, too...

//HEPPEH BERFDEY!
 
2013-04-19 12:38:53 PM

cameroncrazy1984: the lord god: cameroncrazy1984: the lord god: You see the world far to different than I do.

Yes, much like a black and white tv looks different from 1080p HD.

Ok wont just take the win. Well....nevermind.

No, you're great fun to play with. Well, aside from the fact that once you run out of points you start talking about who's "winning" and "losing"


Live my life sometime. Then we will see what you think of brown skinned folk.
 
2013-04-19 12:38:59 PM
Suspect #2's Twitter Account (confirmed by two classmates of his)
 
2013-04-19 12:39:16 PM

Myria: T-Servo: Myria: T-Servo: Please try telling that to my dad. He doesn't think immigrants can ever be Americans, despite the irony in that statement.
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No, my dad has a retort to that, too. "They have casinos now, so they should STFU and GBTW."

Every year I ask for overseas assignments around Thanksgiving.

Does he believe that children of immigrants can be Americans?  If so, by mathematical induction, he is not an American.  It'd take epic moral derptitude to resolve that doublethink.


It's much simpler than that. My wife is an immigrant, but she's white and English is her native language. So that's ok.

Dark and speak another language = not ok.
 
2013-04-19 12:39:23 PM

Myria: Sadly, the bombers are Muslims.  Cue another round of Islam-bashing by the American far right.  They'll mostly avoid talking about one of their own trying to commit murder-by-mail, of course.

The uncle seems like a decent person who is really pissed off right now by his nephews and the media.


I bet you'd have gotten all hot and bothered if it had been some sort of christian right winger. Lord now I'm getting into the partisan hackery. As for the elvis impersonator, he had so much tinfoil on his head that he could have been reynolds biggest customer.

I agree with your last statement about the uncle thoguh.
 
2013-04-19 12:44:11 PM

muck4doo: There have been tons of religious people that have led their countries in the past that never did the things Stalin, Pol Pot, and Mao did, and led their nations well.


The problems always start when said religious leaders used their position of power to prosthelytize. Fascism and warmongering don't REQUIRE religion (see your examples) but history demonstrates time and again religion is a frequent catalyst.
 
2013-04-19 12:47:06 PM
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2013-04-19 12:47:09 PM

muck4doo: The atheists in Russia, Cambodia, and China were such understanding people of those who were "different", weren't they?


That those particular leaders were secular does not somehow negate past oppressive and aggressive theocracies.
 
2013-04-19 12:48:02 PM
any updates on the robot 4 way?
 
2013-04-19 12:49:45 PM

supershaft: any updates on the robot 4 way?


gadgethim.com
 
2013-04-19 12:51:08 PM

fluffy2097: monoski: It would be nice to know why they did this. If they both die it will just be ridiculous speculation.

Which is great for passing that sweeping legislation you wanted.

Monitoring Guns, internet, your phone, whatever you want, you can push it through the government right now with no scrutiny.


Are you in the wrong thread? I am not supporter of any such legislation.
 
2013-04-19 12:52:46 PM

GoldSpider: muck4doo: There have been tons of religious people that have led their countries in the past that never did the things Stalin, Pol Pot, and Mao did, and led their nations well.

The problems always start when said religious leaders used their position of power to prosthelytize. Fascism and warmongering don't REQUIRE religion (see your examples) but history demonstrates time and again religion is a frequent catalyst.


There was a new proselytizing going on in those nations. They don't bother you though, because they were shouting and preaching your ideals.
 
2013-04-19 12:52:52 PM
Regarding the asshole senator from Arkansas, his bosses in the Senate are:   @Sen_Lamoureux and @eddiejoe4senate

I'd let them know what you think about Mr. Bell's asinine comments.
 
2013-04-19 12:52:56 PM
555 Mt Auburn has a suspicious LADDER!
 
2013-04-19 12:53:56 PM

muck4doo: They don't bother you though, because they were shouting and preaching your ideals.


You presume to know much about my ideals.
 
2013-04-19 12:55:17 PM

Egoy3k: ninotchka: Myria: Sadly, the bombers are Muslims.  Cue another round of Islam-bashing by the American far right.  They'll mostly avoid talking about one of their own trying to commit murder-by-mail, of course.

The uncle seems like a decent person who is really pissed off right now by his nephews and the media.

Try marrying into a Muslim family. Live in a Muslim neighborhood. I have. I do not trust most of them ESPECIALLY Salafis. I am a whore Christian anyways in their eyes. My in-laws call me a dog and a prostitute. They ignore my kids because they are "half-breeds". SOmetimes I wish I never studied Russian because I would rather be ignorant and think Muslims are so peaceful except for a few crazies. I so wish I could go back to ignorance.

Why wouldn't you stand up for yourself? I'm an atheist living in sin with a Mormon girl. They tried just once to give me a hard time and after I had said my piece and walked out of their 'family' gathering my common law wife said her bit and walked out right behind me. They may not like me but they damn well respect me and quite a few of them had privately congratulated me. It turns out that they weren't such a united front after all. It just took one person to call them on their bullshiat.


Mormons aren't Muslims, for starters. Pardon my theorizing, but as an atheist, I don't think you really appreciate that the superficial similarities between religions don't remotely approach the different reality inherent in each, particularly when they are fresh from the old world. Were ninotchka to do something like that, her situation would become worse, not better.

My sympathies, ninotchka. One of my cousins went ahead and married a Muslim. The wedding was done Islamic style. We, her Catholic relatives, were obliged to listen to an offensive parable about a man looking to marry off his daughter. The part that stuck out was that the man openly stated that "if you want to marry for wealth, marry her to a Jew. If you want to marry her for beauty, marry her to a Christian. But if you want to marry her to to virtue, marry her to a Muslim."

So, in their eyes, all we're good for is looking pretty. Didn't take me long to walk out.

/farking wedding started two hours late
//Muslims and Catholics were segregated
///it rained on her wedding day
 
2013-04-19 12:57:07 PM
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2013-04-19 12:57:35 PM

Yomoxu: Egoy3k: ninotchka: Myria: Sadly, the bombers are Muslims.  Cue another round of Islam-bashing by the American far right.  They'll mostly avoid talking about one of their own trying to commit murder-by-mail, of course.

The uncle seems like a decent person who is really pissed off right now by his nephews and the media.

Try marrying into a Muslim family. Live in a Muslim neighborhood. I have. I do not trust most of them ESPECIALLY Salafis. I am a whore Christian anyways in their eyes. My in-laws call me a dog and a prostitute. They ignore my kids because they are "half-breeds". SOmetimes I wish I never studied Russian because I would rather be ignorant and think Muslims are so peaceful except for a few crazies. I so wish I could go back to ignorance.

Why wouldn't you stand up for yourself? I'm an atheist living in sin with a Mormon girl. They tried just once to give me a hard time and after I had said my piece and walked out of their 'family' gathering my common law wife said her bit and walked out right behind me. They may not like me but they damn well respect me and quite a few of them had privately congratulated me. It turns out that they weren't such a united front after all. It just took one person to call them on their bullshiat.

Mormons aren't Muslims, for starters. Pardon my theorizing, but as an atheist, I don't think you really appreciate that the superficial similarities between religions don't remotely approach the different reality inherent in each, particularly when they are fresh from the old world. Were ninotchka to do something like that, her situation would become worse, not better.

My sympathies, ninotchka. One of my cousins went ahead and married a Muslim. The wedding was done Islamic style. We, her Catholic relatives, were obliged to listen to an offensive parable about a man looking to marry off his daughter. The part that stuck out was that the man openly stated that "if you want to marry for wealth, marry her to a Jew. If you want to marr ...


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2013-04-19 12:57:36 PM

Yomoxu: Egoy3k: ninotchka: Myria: Sadly, the bombers are Muslims.  Cue another round of Islam-bashing by the American far right.  They'll mostly avoid talking about one of their own trying to commit murder-by-mail, of course.

The uncle seems like a decent person who is really pissed off right now by his nephews and the media.

Try marrying into a Muslim family. Live in a Muslim neighborhood. I have. I do not trust most of them ESPECIALLY Salafis. I am a whore Christian anyways in their eyes. My in-laws call me a dog and a prostitute. They ignore my kids because they are "half-breeds". SOmetimes I wish I never studied Russian because I would rather be ignorant and think Muslims are so peaceful except for a few crazies. I so wish I could go back to ignorance.

Why wouldn't you stand up for yourself? I'm an atheist living in sin with a Mormon girl. They tried just once to give me a hard time and after I had said my piece and walked out of their 'family' gathering my common law wife said her bit and walked out right behind me. They may not like me but they damn well respect me and quite a few of them had privately congratulated me. It turns out that they weren't such a united front after all. It just took one person to call them on their bullshiat.

Mormons aren't Muslims, for starters. Pardon my theorizing, but as an atheist, I don't think you really appreciate that the superficial similarities between religions don't remotely approach the different reality inherent in each, particularly when they are fresh from the old world. Were ninotchka to do something like that, her situation would become worse, not better.

My sympathies, ninotchka. One of my cousins went ahead and married a Muslim. The wedding was done Islamic style. We, her Catholic relatives, were obliged to listen to an offensive parable about a man looking to marry off his daughter. The part that stuck out was that the man openly stated that "if you want to marry for wealth, marry her to a Jew. If you want to marr ...


Yikes, that must be some very awkward family gatherings now...
 
2013-04-19 12:59:05 PM
Some chatter about a mom saying daughter texting her that man is holding her at gunpoint.  No idea where or if related to bomber.
 
2013-04-19 12:59:43 PM

Random Name Generator: Suspect #2's Twitter Account (confirmed by two classmates of his)


Anyone who wants to call this an foreign act of terrorism needs to read this. This kid quotes Rent. When was the last time a foreign terrorist used the word, "homie?" He as American as Clint Eastwood.
 
2013-04-19 01:00:12 PM

soup: I mean using AOL in this day and age is pretty dumb, but saying those users deserve to die? That's pretty harsh.


After working a job in tech support and dealing with many AOL users, yes they deserve to die.
 
2013-04-19 01:03:24 PM

ColKurtz: NEW SCANNER FEED FOR THOSE WHOSE AREN'T WORKING.

Compliments of Anonymous

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Holy shiat there are almost 70,000 people on that link right now.
 
2013-04-19 01:04:14 PM

Publikwerks: 555 Mt Auburn has a suspicious LADDER!


And delicious falafel and schwarma! LEO lunch break.
 
2013-04-19 01:04:44 PM

mekki: Random Name Generator: Suspect #2's Twitter Account (confirmed by two classmates of his)

Anyone who wants to call this an foreign act of terrorism needs to read this. This kid quotes Rent. When was the last time a foreign terrorist used the word, "homie?" He as American as Clint Eastwood.


I'm surprised the authorities weren't on to him sooner.
 
2013-04-19 01:06:20 PM

Yomoxu: Mormons aren't Muslims, for starters. Pardon my theorizing, but as an atheist, I don't think you really appreciate that the superficial similarities between religions don't remotely approach the different reality inherent in each, particularly when they are fresh from the old world. Were ninotchka to do something like that, her situation would become worse, not better.

My sympathies, ninotchka. One of my cousins went ahead and married a Muslim. The wedding was done Islamic style. We, her Catholic relatives, were obliged to listen to an offensive parable about a man looking to marry off his daughter. The part that stuck out was that the man openly stated that "if you want to marry for wealth, marry her to a Jew. If you want to marry her for beauty, marry her to a Christian. But if you want to marry her to to virtue, marry her to a Muslim."

So, in their eyes, all we're good for is looking pretty. Didn't take me long to walk out.

/farking wedding started two hours late
//Muslims and Catholics were segregated
///it rained on her wedding day


Bullshiat. Some of the most decent people I know are Muslim. Clearly she thinks her partner is a pretty decent person otherwise why get married? If her partner is backing her up then nothing worse than severing all ties to the assholes can be a result of a confrontation. If her partner isn't backing her up then they shouldn't be together and she should remove herself from the situation.  I'm a very liberal and open minded person but you can't claim cultural differences give anyone a free pass to uncivilized behavior.

I wouldn't let anyone talk to me like that and I sure as hell wouldn't allow them to speak to my wife like that. If your wife or husband is willing to allow their family to act in an uncivilized manner towards you then they don't deserve your love.

Adult who are afraid of their parents are pathetic.
 
2013-04-19 01:06:47 PM

cameroncrazy1984: vygramul: KarmicDisaster: vygramul: "...can only be described as a suicide vest. Or whatever." - Wolf Blitzer

I thought that they took Wolf into custody yesterday for crimes against journalism. Is he out on bail?

RoR.

Are you sure he has his own recognizance?


I thought he was an asian guy that got amused.
 
2013-04-19 01:10:43 PM

groppet: brandent: the lord god: The uncle rocks. Because they are losers!!!

The live press conference  that he just gave in front of his house was very good .  I was glad he spoke.  The questions were moronic.

I was waiting for a "What did you have for breakfast" or "How do you think Bieber/Gaga/Lohan will react to this?" type questions.


"Who are you wearing?"
 
2013-04-19 01:12:04 PM
Line change!

...this would be a better line if I actually knew the names of anyone on the Bruins. Or anyone in the NHL aside from Crosby and Ovechkin.
 
2013-04-19 01:12:24 PM

give me doughnuts: groppet: brandent: the lord god: The uncle rocks. Because they are losers!!!

The live press conference  that he just gave in front of his house was very good .  I was glad he spoke.  The questions were moronic.

I was waiting for a "What did you have for breakfast" or "How do you think Bieber/Gaga/Lohan will react to this?" type questions.

"Who are you wearing?"


khakees?

25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-04-19 01:14:07 PM

muck4doo: Someone posted last thread that the older brother has a baby. Saw this movie "Inheritance" on Netflix not long ago. The poor kid is going to grow up with that same guilt. Movie is a documentary about Amon Goeth's duaghter, who didn't really know who her father was till her teens. For those that don't know he was that evil bastard in Schindler's List. She met with the real Helen from Schindler's List, and was just overcome with guilt, but still trying to make out that maybe her father wasn't such a bad guy. This baby s also going to have to live with that.


That was one powerful documentary. The way the real Helen told her story of her interactions with goeth and all she saw was enough to make you tear up.
 
2013-04-19 01:14:31 PM

cameroncrazy1984: the lord god: If you think its only the far right you are very wrong. Lots of us are sick of their shiat.

If you think Islam is the source of the problem, you are likely on the American far-right.


Definitely not a member of the far right, but I do believe a lot of problems related to Islam are because unlike the crazy Christians, most Islamic folk are still operating on their version of the old testament.
 
2013-04-19 01:24:19 PM
I dunno, subby.  You're the one who submitted a Huff Post article.
 
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