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(NewsBusters)   Even NPR isn't immune from the godawful reporting over the past week: All Things Considered says that Hitler is a prominent figure of the anti-government crowd. Yup, because when you think "fascism," you think less government control   (newsbusters.org) divider line 21
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2013-04-19 09:42:11 AM  
7 votes:

jake_lex: Dinki: Funny how the anti-government crowd only gets vocal when a Democrat is in office. Especially if he's blah.

The same people who are clinging onto their guns saying they need "Second Amendment Solutions" to encroaching fascism are the ones who cheered on George W. Bush as he set up this massive surveillance structure.

This article is dumb even by Potato Buster's standards.


No, they weren't.  Many of the same people who talk about resisting a tyrannical government were pissed off about the PATRIOT Act *BECAUSE* it gave too much surveillance power to the government:


A year ago,  Gun Owners of  America [GOA] -- together with a wide range of organizations on all sides of the ideological spectrum -- warned that the so-called "P.A.T.R.I.O.T. Act's" overly broad definition of terrorism could allow the federal government to spy on -- and potentially shut down -- groups like GOA.

(that's from 2003).
You just didn't notice them saying so back then, because it didn't fit your world view.
2013-04-19 08:38:41 AM  
4 votes:
Pretty sure the Weimar Republic he helped get rid of was Government, so...
2013-04-19 10:17:19 AM  
3 votes:

Dinki: Funny how the anti-government crowd only gets vocal when a Democrat is in office. Especially if he's blah.


It seems fair.  The left only cares about Guantanamo when a Republican is in office.  Drone strikes and renditions too, for that matter.
2013-04-19 09:42:42 AM  
3 votes:
Most American right-wingers are not pro-Hitler

Only because they know so little about history. If they knew what Hitler stood for, they would love him. Or hate themselves. It's hard to say how the dissonance would resolve itself.
2013-04-19 08:42:30 AM  
3 votes:
They're only anti-government on things they disagree with. Both "sides" want the government all up in your business, just in different areas some of the time.
2013-04-19 11:47:24 AM  
2 votes:

dittybopper: GAT_00: jjorsett: Dinki: Funny how the anti-government crowd only gets vocal when a Democrat is in office. Especially if he's blah.

You must not have been listening during the Bush era. Plenty of us were against all the crap he did to grow government.

As someone who was also listening and was against all of that from the start, no you weren't.  Conservatives had no problems with Bush's government expansion.

Wrong:

http://www.aclu.org/national-security/conservative-voices-against-us a- patriot-act

Note that one of the biggest opponents there is David Keene, current president of the NRA.


Are you really going to pretend that the right was against Bush's government expansion?  This isn't Reagan 30 years down the road, where you can rewrite history and hope nobody remembers what actually happened.

There was absolutely no real conservative push against Bush's government expansion.  In 2005, when the Patriot Act was renewed, it was 207-18 from the GOP and 44-155 from the Dems.  In the Senate, every single Republican voted yes.  Don't try that bullshiat on me, I remember what actually happened.
2013-04-19 11:38:00 AM  
2 votes:

GAT_00: jjorsett: Dinki: Funny how the anti-government crowd only gets vocal when a Democrat is in office. Especially if he's blah.

You must not have been listening during the Bush era. Plenty of us were against all the crap he did to grow government.

As someone who was also listening and was against all of that from the start, no you weren't.  Conservatives had no problems with Bush's government expansion.


Wrong:

http://www.aclu.org/national-security/conservative-voices-against-us a- patriot-act

Note that one of the biggest opponents there is David Keene, current president of the NRA.
2013-04-19 10:44:50 AM  
2 votes:
dittybopper:
 Many of the same people who talk about resisting a tyrannical government were pissed off about the PATRIOT Act *BECAUSE* it gave too much surveillance power to the government:

A few of the same people.   Most of the same people are doing exactly what that person described.  Like, my family, everyone I work with, and almost every prominent republican media personality I've seen on TV or the radio.  I didn't hear a peep from any of them about this until Obama came into office, when everyone started freaking out about the second coming of Hitler.  Few even believe me that such surveillance and detainment of citizens occurred under Bush... It's all liberal revisionist history.  I shiat you not.

You just didn't notice because.. well, I dunno.  I guess it doesn't fit into your worldview or some other bullshiat like that.  We're not talking about the small minority of libertarians that are consistent in their opposition.  We're talking about, you know, conservative republicans.  The people who, and this is the point that you somehow managed to miss, eagerly supported surveillance and detainment under Bush but see the same policies under Obama as being fascist.
2013-04-19 08:46:59 AM  
2 votes:
Funny how the anti-government crowd only gets vocal when a Democrat is in office. Especially if he's blah.
2013-04-19 10:54:45 AM  
1 votes:

Dinki: Funny how the anti-government crowd only gets vocal when a Democrat is in office. Especially if he's blah.


You must not have been listening during the Bush era. Plenty of us were against all the crap he did to grow government. We don't save it just for Democrats. And it's SMALLER government, not NO government, as you no doubt know but choose to mischaracterize.
2013-04-19 10:19:10 AM  
1 votes:

Albert911emt: FlashHarry: doglover: Fascism? Was Hitler a Nafi now?

no, clearly he was a socialist. just like the democratic people's republic of korea is a hotbed of democracy.

Hitler was a fascist masquerading as a socialist.


Fascism takes elements of socialism and elements of nationalism and mixes them together.  The founder of fascism, Benito Mussolini, was a disillusioned socialist.

That's not to say that fascism = socialism, just that they share some ideological DNA.
2013-04-19 10:18:32 AM  
1 votes:

jake_lex: Dinki: Funny how the anti-government crowd only gets vocal when a Democrat is in office. Especially if he's blah.

The same people who are clinging onto their guns saying they need "Second Amendment Solutions" to encroaching fascism are the ones who cheered on George W. Bush as he set up this massive surveillance structure.

This article is dumb even by Potato Buster's standards.


I keep hearing this, but neither myself nor any of the other gun owners I associate with are happy with the Patriot Act or any of that nonsense. If anything, the gun owners I've met have been more concerned about other rights than many non-gun owners are.
2013-04-19 10:01:26 AM  
1 votes:
It's so sad how NPR went from the best news agency in the country to one that gives the hipsters fluff in just a few years. There's a reason why all their heavy-hitter reporters and analysts walked away over the last five years.
2013-04-19 09:59:14 AM  
1 votes:
It's actually funny how Pavlovian they are:  They see "Second Amendment", they instantly drool out "Bush-bot! Bush-bot!".
2013-04-19 09:58:35 AM  
1 votes:
"Anti-government" or "states' rights"?
2013-04-19 09:14:55 AM  
1 votes:
Fascism? Was Hitler a Nafi now?

Wrap it up, other right-wing "posters". No one is going to top this piece of shiat right here.
2013-04-19 09:04:33 AM  
1 votes:

Dinki: Funny how the anti-government crowd only gets vocal when a Democrat is in office. Especially if he's blah.


The same people who are clinging onto their guns saying they need "Second Amendment Solutions" to encroaching fascism are the ones who cheered on George W. Bush as he set up this massive surveillance structure.

This article is dumb even by Potato Buster's standards.
2013-04-19 08:43:54 AM  
1 votes:
No no no, the joke is that Hitler's sympathetic because he knows what it's like not to be able to finish a race because of bombing.
Also, the quote they give is probably lumping Hitler with "right wing individuals", not "anti-government".
They got everything wrong.
2013-04-19 08:40:11 AM  
1 votes:
Fascism? Was Hitler a Nafi now?
2013-04-19 08:29:08 AM  
1 votes:
Nobody said they had to have an ethos.
2013-04-19 08:26:10 AM  
1 votes:
Yeah, that Beer Hall Putsch was just a party that got out of hand.
 
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