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(NewsBusters)   Even NPR isn't immune from the godawful reporting over the past week: All Things Considered says that Hitler is a prominent figure of the anti-government crowd. Yup, because when you think "fascism," you think less government control   (newsbusters.org) divider line 82
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2013-04-19 10:54:45 AM

Dinki: Funny how the anti-government crowd only gets vocal when a Democrat is in office. Especially if he's blah.


You must not have been listening during the Bush era. Plenty of us were against all the crap he did to grow government. We don't save it just for Democrats. And it's SMALLER government, not NO government, as you no doubt know but choose to mischaracterize.
 
2013-04-19 11:05:08 AM

rumpelstiltskin: Most American right-wingers are not pro-Hitler

Only because they know so little about history. If they knew what Hitler stood for, they would love him. Or hate themselves. It's hard to say how the dissonance would resolve itself.


He was a big-government, pro-surveillance, anti-gun, progressive.

What part of that would they like?
 
2013-04-19 11:05:48 AM

jjorsett: You must not have been listening during the Bush era


this is what "conservatism" sounded like during the Bush era:

It must be very strange to be President Bush. A man of extraordinary vision and brilliance approaching to genius, he can't get anyone to notice. He is like a great painter or musician who is ahead of his time, and who unveils one masterpiece after another to a reception that, when not bored, is hostile.
 
2013-04-19 11:06:49 AM
I tend to sum up Fascism as "think not what your country can do for you, think what you can do for your country".
 
2013-04-19 11:24:45 AM
A common refrain in anti-government circles is that Jews control the Federal government.  It's not surprising people like that idolize Hitler.
 
2013-04-19 11:25:59 AM

jjorsett: Dinki: Funny how the anti-government crowd only gets vocal when a Democrat is in office. Especially if he's blah.

You must not have been listening during the Bush era. Plenty of us were against all the crap he did to grow government.


As someone who was also listening and was against all of that from the start, no you weren't.  Conservatives had no problems with Bush's government expansion.
 
2013-04-19 11:38:00 AM

GAT_00: jjorsett: Dinki: Funny how the anti-government crowd only gets vocal when a Democrat is in office. Especially if he's blah.

You must not have been listening during the Bush era. Plenty of us were against all the crap he did to grow government.

As someone who was also listening and was against all of that from the start, no you weren't.  Conservatives had no problems with Bush's government expansion.


Wrong:

http://www.aclu.org/national-security/conservative-voices-against-us a- patriot-act

Note that one of the biggest opponents there is David Keene, current president of the NRA.
 
2013-04-19 11:38:17 AM

cleek: jjorsett: You must not have been listening during the Bush era

this is what "conservatism" sounded like during the Bush era:

It must be very strange to be President Bush. A man of extraordinary vision and brilliance approaching to genius, he can't get anyone to notice. He is like a great painter or musician who is ahead of his time, and who unveils one masterpiece after another to a reception that, when not bored, is hostile.


That was Assrocket, right?

That's almost as good as Rich Lowry spewing starbursts when Sarah Palin winked at the camera.
 
2013-04-19 11:42:46 AM

Aarontology: They're only anti-government on things they disagree with. Both "sides" want the government all up in your business, just in different areas some of the time.


Hey it's the "Hitler was a FREEpublican" guy again. Don't you ever get tired of shilling for the academia trying to revise history to make themselves anything but the useful idiots they have become?
Also, so vote Democrat?
 
2013-04-19 11:46:05 AM

This text is now purple: rumpelstiltskin: Most American right-wingers are not pro-Hitler

Only because they know so little about history. If they knew what Hitler stood for, they would love him. Or hate themselves. It's hard to say how the dissonance would resolve itself.

He was a big-government, pro-surveillance, anti-gun, progressive.

What part of that would they like?


lol
 
2013-04-19 11:47:24 AM

dittybopper: GAT_00: jjorsett: Dinki: Funny how the anti-government crowd only gets vocal when a Democrat is in office. Especially if he's blah.

You must not have been listening during the Bush era. Plenty of us were against all the crap he did to grow government.

As someone who was also listening and was against all of that from the start, no you weren't.  Conservatives had no problems with Bush's government expansion.

Wrong:

http://www.aclu.org/national-security/conservative-voices-against-us a- patriot-act

Note that one of the biggest opponents there is David Keene, current president of the NRA.


Are you really going to pretend that the right was against Bush's government expansion?  This isn't Reagan 30 years down the road, where you can rewrite history and hope nobody remembers what actually happened.

There was absolutely no real conservative push against Bush's government expansion.  In 2005, when the Patriot Act was renewed, it was 207-18 from the GOP and 44-155 from the Dems.  In the Senate, every single Republican voted yes.  Don't try that bullshiat on me, I remember what actually happened.
 
2013-04-19 11:52:20 AM
So does Barney Frank's votes against the PATRIOT Act and the Iraq War make him a conservative hero?
 
2013-04-19 11:53:39 AM

Jackson Herring: So does Barney Frank's votes against the PATRIOT Act and the Iraq War make him a conservative hero?


No. See, Republicans were FOR those before they were AGAINST them.

/IOKIYAR
 
2013-04-19 11:54:59 AM

EyeballKid: No. See, Republicans were FOR those before they were AGAINST them.


But that isn't what fine conservative "posters" in this thread are telling me. I am so confused!
 
2013-04-19 11:59:37 AM

cleek: Raptavio: Has anyone actually fact-checked the source article? Newsbusters isn't known for their accuracy.

the quote is correct. i heard the NPR story. the reporter was talking about things that get hardcore wingnuts all a-twitchy this time of the year and she stupidly included Hitler's birthday in the list.


Not stupid, there's a significant crossover between the militia movement and the white supremacist movement.
 
2013-04-19 12:22:00 PM
Gosh and golly, I DID NOT KNOW that Chechens were typical members of American right-wing groups that love Hitler. Astonishing! Who would have thought that Chechens were a pack of Hitler-loving right-wingers????
 
2013-04-19 12:24:44 PM

Silly_Sot: Gosh and golly, I DID NOT KNOW that Chechens were typical members of American right-wing groups that love Hitler. Astonishing! Who would have thought that Chechens were a pack of Hitler-loving right-wingers????


This guy
upload.wikimedia.org

Oh, Checens.....
nevermind
 
2013-04-19 12:28:22 PM

EyeballKid: Jackson Herring: So does Barney Frank's votes against the PATRIOT Act and the Iraq War make him a conservative hero?

No. See, Republicans were FOR those before they were AGAINST them.

/IOKIYAR


Plus, he's gay, so anything he does is wrong.

Even when he's right.

/this is how some people think
//I miss the old-school Republicans
///before they became the party of rape, religion, and earmarks
 
2013-04-19 12:29:26 PM
jake_lex: Dinki: Funny how the anti-government crowd only gets vocal when a Democrat is in office. Especially if he's blah.

The same people who are clinging onto their guns saying they need "Second Amendment Solutions" to encroaching fascism are the ones who cheered on George W. Bush as he set up this massive surveillance structure
.

I have been pissed about the PATRIOT act since it was proposed. For some reason, most of my fellow protestors stopped saying a peep about it in 2008 though. They even had the gall to defend it and call us racists for opposing them when it was recently renewed and expanded.
 
2013-04-19 12:40:30 PM

PunGent: EyeballKid: Jackson Herring: So does Barney Frank's votes against the PATRIOT Act and the Iraq War make him a conservative hero?

No. See, Republicans were FOR those before they were AGAINST them.

/IOKIYAR

Plus, he's gay, so anything he does is wrong.

Even when he's right.

/this is how some people think
//I miss the old-school Republicans
///before they became the party of rape, religion, and earmarks


I miss the old school democrats too, before they became all fear mongering hate machines. They used have a semblance of respect for the populace before they figured out they could financially rape them and still stay in power because "racism" or some other simple minded shiat.
/you're right. this IS fun.
 
2013-04-19 01:09:42 PM

Aarontology: They're only anti-government on things they disagree with. Both "sides" want the government all up in your business, just in different areas some of the time.


Hey wtf man - spoiler alert!!
 
2013-04-19 01:12:24 PM
Did they mean anti-government as in anarchist, or against the current (Democratic) government?
 
2013-04-19 01:23:38 PM
To say right-wingers are anti government is really false. GW expanded the government by leaps and bounds and that guy was their baby. What right-wingers are is anti-people, mostly anti-people-not-like-me. They're xenophobes. And their angry, and they're stupid. They have no ideas that make even rudimentary sense and tend to use violent rhetoric and imagery as their 'arguments'. They are anti-education because it helps people see that their ideas are moronic. They are anti-government assistance because poor, uneducated, desperate people are easy to control and look down on.

They are in fact fascists (like hitler). They believe the powerful should rule unfettered and want a HUGE military to make sure they can.

Basically, the modern American right-winger is garbage and has worked very hard to make that obvious.
 
2013-04-19 01:30:22 PM

hitlersbrain: To say right-wingers are anti government is really false. GW expanded the government by leaps and bounds and that guy was their baby. What right-wingers are is anti-people, mostly anti-people-not-like-me. They're xenophobes. And their angry, and they're stupid. They have no ideas that make even rudimentary sense and tend to use violent rhetoric and imagery as their 'arguments'. They are anti-education because it helps people see that their ideas are moronic. They are anti-government assistance because poor, uneducated, desperate people are easy to control and look down on.

They are in fact fascists (like hitler). They believe the powerful should rule unfettered and want a HUGE military to make sure they can.

Basically, the modern American right-winger is garbage and has worked very hard to make that obvious.


You know, for a guy with that moniker, you seem...historically challenged. But you keep plodding along with that infantile belief system and we'll catch you on the news later.
 
2013-04-19 01:38:36 PM

studs up: You know, for a guy with that moniker, you seem...historically challenged. But you keep plodding along with that infantile belief system and we'll catch you on the news later.


Yes, so many violent, left wing terrorists out there right?
 
2013-04-19 01:54:39 PM

hitlersbrain: studs up: You know, for a guy with that moniker, you seem...historically challenged. But you keep plodding along with that infantile belief system and we'll catch you on the news later.

Yes, so many violent, left wing terrorists out there right?


facepalm
GIS .01 seconds
try it, it's free and easy
 
2013-04-19 02:03:42 PM

hitlersbrain: studs up: You know, for a guy with that moniker, you seem...historically challenged. But you keep plodding along with that infantile belief system and we'll catch you on the news later.

Yes, so many violent, left wing terrorists out there right?


THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A VIOLENT CONSERVATIVE
 
2013-04-19 02:05:55 PM

Pants full of macaroni!!: hitlersbrain: studs up: You know, for a guy with that moniker, you seem...historically challenged. But you keep plodding along with that infantile belief system and we'll catch you on the news later.

Yes, so many violent, left wing terrorists out there right?

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A VIOLENT CONSERVATIVE


I read that in Kevin Bacon's voice from Animal House.
 
2013-04-19 02:19:02 PM

Raptavio: Has anyone actually fact-checked the source article? Newsbusters isn't known for their accuracy.


Newsbusters is to news, as Ghostbusters is to documentary film-making.
 
2013-04-19 02:24:04 PM

studs up: Pants full of macaroni!!: hitlersbrain: studs up: You know, for a guy with that moniker, you seem...historically challenged. But you keep plodding along with that infantile belief system and we'll catch you on the news later.

Yes, so many violent, left wing terrorists out there right?

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A VIOLENT CONSERVATIVE

I read that in Kevin Bacon's voice from Animal House.


I also would have accepted the "I AM ABOVE THE LAW" guy from that one episode of South Park.
 
2013-04-19 02:46:13 PM

Aarontology: They're only anti-government on things they disagree with. Both "sides" want the government all up in your business, just in different areas some of the time.


Its just like the guy who came into my shop today.  For 8 years he had the gulf war body count on the back window of his car and updated it every week.  When Obama was elected he took it off despite the fact that were still there and people are still dying.
 
2013-04-19 10:21:15 PM
I'm pretty sure neo-Nazis aren't pro-government, so yeah, Hitler is probably a big deal to certain anti-government types.  I'm also sure that I used up to 3 unnecessary hyphens.
 
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