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2013-04-19 09:27:05 AM  
Ill watch it
 
2013-04-19 09:28:14 AM  
I have high hopes for this.

Minor spoiler WARNING:

The author seems to think that the battle room is to physically train the students to be warriors. He says "the child warriors train for zero-G battle".

This guy seems to have missed that the whole point of the battle room is that it is a strategy training tool. This is why Ender excelled there - he understood this. Let's face it, neither Ender or Bean are ever going to be 'zero-G warriors'.
 
2013-04-19 09:40:48 AM  
assuming that is petra, she's got nice boobies.
 
2013-04-19 09:49:18 AM  

Andrew Wiggin: assuming that is petra, she's got nice boobies.


I think Petra is played by the girl from the True Grit remake.

/shouldn't you know Petra, after all?
 
2013-04-19 09:50:03 AM  
Well I hope I like the movie better than I like the book..... it was written by an idiot.
 
2013-04-19 09:53:50 AM  
Where are the talking pigs?
 
2013-04-19 09:55:58 AM  
Orson Scott Card is a vile homophobe.

Do not spend any money on this movie or any of his books.

Do not give a single dime or one iota of additional prestige to such an unmitigated bigot.
 
2013-04-19 09:58:15 AM  

SpdrJay: Well I hope I like the movie better than I like the book..... it was written by an idiot.


I liked the book.  Found out later that it was written by an asshole, but doesn't change the fact that I liked it.

Wonder if they'll show the Formics?  They're not really in the book, but I doubt Hollywood could resist showing the face of the enemy.  I always imagined them looking something like the Shadows in B5.
 
2013-04-19 09:58:36 AM  

Dhusk: Orson Scott Card is a vile homophobe.

Do not spend any money on this movie or any of his books.

Do not give a single dime or one iota of additional prestige to such an unmitigated bigot.


Dhusk speaks truth. I wasn't aware of this before kindling this book, so my apologies there.
 
2013-04-19 10:04:08 AM  

fustanella: Dhusk: Orson Scott Card is a vile homophobe.

Do not spend any money on this movie or any of his books.

Do not give a single dime or one iota of additional prestige to such an unmitigated bigot.

Dhusk speaks truth. I wasn't aware of this before kindling this book, so my apologies there.


Lots of great artists are douche bags.  If you are going to be consistent with your outrage you really need to take a look at your library of books, music, art, etc.. and start burning sh*t.
 
2013-04-19 10:10:08 AM  

Psycoholic_Slag: fustanella: Dhusk: Orson Scott Card is a vile homophobe.

Do not spend any money on this movie or any of his books.

Do not give a single dime or one iota of additional prestige to such an unmitigated bigot.

Dhusk speaks truth. I wasn't aware of this before kindling this book, so my apologies there.

Lots of great artists are douche bags.  If you are going to be consistent with your outrage you really need to take a look at your library of books, music, art, etc.. and start burning sh*t.


There's douchebags, and then there's Card advocating treason and armed insurrection against the US government to stop the legalization of gay marriage.  That's beyond some guy being egotistical and saying occasional stupid things a la Frank Miller or Dan Simmons.
 
2013-04-19 10:17:26 AM  

Psycoholic_Slag: fustanella: Dhusk: Orson Scott Card is a vile homophobe.

Do not spend any money on this movie or any of his books.

Do not give a single dime or one iota of additional prestige to such an unmitigated bigot.

Dhusk speaks truth. I wasn't aware of this before kindling this book, so my apologies there.

Lots of great artists are douche bags.  If you are going to be consistent with your outrage you really need to take a look at your library of books, music, art, etc.. and start burning sh*t.


This.

Why would I care what a guy that writes about alien bugs thinks about same sex marriage?

My disdain for scientology doesn't stop me from enjoying Top Gun or Mission Impossible.

The fact that I enjoyed the Terminator series doesn't mean I agree with Arnold's political career.

Yes, metallica is a band comprised of some of the biggest douches in the world. Enter Sandman is still a great song.

Separate your opinions of the individual from their work and you'll find a lot more in life that you can enjoy.
 
2013-04-19 10:30:22 AM  
What's this going to be rated?  Ender does brutally kill two kids if I remember correctly.
 
2013-04-19 10:34:28 AM  

Dhusk: Psycoholic_Slag: fustanella: Dhusk: Orson Scott Card is a vile homophobe.

Do not spend any money on this movie or any of his books.

Do not give a single dime or one iota of additional prestige to such an unmitigated bigot.

Dhusk speaks truth. I wasn't aware of this before kindling this book, so my apologies there.

Lots of great artists are douche bags.  If you are going to be consistent with your outrage you really need to take a look at your library of books, music, art, etc.. and start burning sh*t.

There's douchebags, and then there's Card advocating treason and armed insurrection against the US government to stop the legalization of gay marriage.  That's beyond some guy being egotistical and saying occasional stupid things a la Frank Miller or Dan Simmons.


Wait- what did Dan Simmons say?  Is the Universe so perverse that all of my favorite SciFi authors are going to turn out to be dickheads?  What's next?  Phillip Jose Farmer as a cryptonazi?   Robert A. Heinlein revealed as preferring Van Halen during the Hagar Years?
 
2013-04-19 10:38:59 AM  

Dhusk: Psycoholic_Slag: fustanella: Dhusk: Orson Scott Card is a vile homophobe.

Do not spend any money on this movie or any of his books.

Do not give a single dime or one iota of additional prestige to such an unmitigated bigot.

Dhusk speaks truth. I wasn't aware of this before kindling this book, so my apologies there.

Lots of great artists are douche bags.  If you are going to be consistent with your outrage you really need to take a look at your library of books, music, art, etc.. and start burning sh*t.

There's douchebags, and then there's Card advocating treason and armed insurrection against the US government to stop the legalization of gay marriage.  That's beyond some guy being egotistical and saying occasional stupid things a la Frank Miller or Dan Simmons.


Card is a minor player in a huge game. Check out Wagner, T.S. Eliot, Degas, Byron, Nabokov, Hemingway and Dickens (to name a few) if you want to get into anti-semitism, misogyny, racism, pedophilia and sexual abuse (to name a few).
 
2013-04-19 10:40:10 AM  
Just remember, the enemy's gate is down.
 
2013-04-19 10:42:46 AM  
Oh I might watch this.
 
2013-04-19 10:43:01 AM  

ProdigalSigh: What's this going to be rated?  Ender does brutally kill two kids if I remember correctly.


Not sure. They did age the kids - I'd guess they are about 4 years older in the movie than in the books. I think this was done to make the violence a little more ... palatable. Add this to the fact that there are only a couple of scenes of violence and that the board tends to be pretty lenient on it, I suspect it will get away with a PG.

Have to assume that this is targeted for a wide audience so they will do whatever they can to get the lighter rating.
 
2013-04-19 10:44:00 AM  

EnderX: Oh I might watch this.


not before me
 
2013-04-19 10:47:10 AM  

Dhusk: Orson Scott Card is a vile homophobe.

Do not spend any money on this movie or any of his books.

Do not give a single dime or one iota of additional prestige to such an unmitigated bigot.


he's one of my favorite authors.  i don't care about his personal beliefs or politics because they aren't relevant.  if you found out that your favorite author was a racist or a pedophile or whatever, would you seriously stop enjoying their work?  i don't even understand that mindset.
 
2013-04-19 10:50:12 AM  

SpdrJay: Well I hope I like the movie better than I like the book..... it was written by an idiot.


Flame on!
 
2013-04-19 11:02:31 AM  

Farking Canuck: I think this was done to make the violence a little more ... palatable.


I would think you'd use older actors because where the hell are you going to find that many "good" actors who are under age 10?  You'd have to go with teenagers unless you want the movie to be a complete suck-fest.

That said, I never really bought that part of Ender's game---I always pictured Battle School as being more for late middle school/early high school, with Command School being for late HS/early college aged kids.  Trust me, 5 year-olds are not nearly as smart as Card makes them out to be.
 
2013-04-19 11:35:43 AM  

tillerman35: Dhusk: Psycoholic_Slag: fustanella: Dhusk: Orson Scott Card is a vile homophobe.

Do not spend any money on this movie or any of his books.

Do not give a single dime or one iota of additional prestige to such an unmitigated bigot.

Dhusk speaks truth. I wasn't aware of this before kindling this book, so my apologies there.

Lots of great artists are douche bags.  If you are going to be consistent with your outrage you really need to take a look at your library of books, music, art, etc.. and start burning sh*t.

There's douchebags, and then there's Card advocating treason and armed insurrection against the US government to stop the legalization of gay marriage.  That's beyond some guy being egotistical and saying occasional stupid things a la Frank Miller or Dan Simmons.

Wait- what did Dan Simmons say?  Is the Universe so perverse that all of my favorite SciFi authors are going to turn out to be dickheads?  What's next?  Phillip Jose Farmer as a cryptonazi?   Robert A. Heinlein revealed as preferring Van Halen during the Hagar Years?


I wondered that too so I went googling. Apparently it started when he posted his "Time Traveler" story in his Message from Dan section.
http://www.dansimmons.com/news/message/2006_04.htm

He had a follow up post afterwards as well.
http://www.dansimmons.com/news/message/2006_05.htm
 
2013-04-19 11:38:21 AM  

enderthexenocide: i don't even understand that mindset.


You can't understand why people wouldn't want to give their hard-earned money to vile, hateful people?

*sigh*
 
2013-04-19 11:40:40 AM  

HMS_Blinkin: Trust me, 5 year-olds are not nearly as smart as Card makes them out to be.


Keep in mind that these would be the top 0.0001% of humanity.

And yes, making the kids older does simplify getting quality actors but the idea behind training the kids so young is to get them before they start thinking like the rest of humanity. So they can come up with the ideas that nobody else will.
 
2013-04-19 11:44:42 AM  

ProdigalSigh: What's this going to be rated?  Ender does brutally kill two kids if I remember correctly.


PG-13 is the money making sweet spot.  That's my bet.
 
2013-04-19 11:54:44 AM  

AkaDad: enderthexenocide: i don't even understand that mindset.

You can't understand why people wouldn't want to give their hard-earned money to vile, hateful people?

*sigh*


You can take a stand on principle if you like. I doubt that you are going to impact the bottom line of the movie though. And if you have no impact are you really accomplishing anything with your protest.

On the flip side, a lot of non-hateful people have poured their blood, sweat and tears to make a product. If it is a good product is it really fair to punish them because one person in the chain is a dick?

I read a fair bit of Card when I was younger. The Ender books were good and I liked the Seventh Son stuff. The rest seemed to get all wrapped up in his Mormon crap and I couldn't stomach it.
 
2013-04-19 12:20:43 PM  

Farking Canuck: AkaDad: enderthexenocide: i don't even understand that mindset.

You can't understand why people wouldn't want to give their hard-earned money to vile, hateful people?

*sigh*

You can take a stand on principle if you like. I doubt that you are going to impact the bottom line of the movie though. And if you have no impact are you really accomplishing anything with your protest.

On the flip side, a lot of non-hateful people have poured their blood, sweat and tears to make a product. If it is a good product is it really fair to punish them because one person in the chain is a dick?

I read a fair bit of Card when I was younger. The Ender books were good and I liked the Seventh Son stuff. The rest seemed to get all wrapped up in his Mormon crap and I couldn't stomach it.


Self-respect. That's an accomplishment. And not contributing to haters. There's another.
 
2013-04-19 12:39:44 PM  

Dhusk: Orson Scott Card is a vile homophobe.

Do not spend any money on this movie or any of his books.

Do not give a single dime or one iota of additional prestige to such an unmitigated bigot.


I try to keep my opinions or artists and their art distinct. I think I can consistently say that he's an awful person who wrote a good book.

That said, I'll be waiting for it to reach Netflix to minimize my contributions towards his income. He really is a world-class douche.
 
2013-04-19 01:18:45 PM  

fustanella: Dhusk: Orson Scott Card is a vile homophobe.

Do not spend any money on this movie or any of his books.

Do not give a single dime or one iota of additional prestige to such an unmitigated bigot.

Dhusk speaks truth. I wasn't aware of this before kindling this book, so my apologies there.


[True story Bro]

Orson Scott Card was the guest author/lecturer at Lenoir Rhyne Univeristy back in early 2005. My dad and I went to hear him. At the last minute, Card decided to charge 20 bucks per person for admission (something that no other guest speaker had ever done). He was 45 minutes late getting to the stage, and then he spent most of his time railing on about "The Dreadful Gay Choice."

After about 30 minutes into his tirade, some of the audience began to leave. Card taunted them, saying that they were Pink Americans and homosexual enablers.

The line for the booksigning was embarassingly short. I left with my copy of Ender's Game unsigned. It wasn't his agenda that made me leave; it was the fact that he was as crazy as a shiat-house rat.

[/True Story Bro]
 
2013-04-19 01:25:48 PM  

AkaDad: enderthexenocide: i don't even understand that mindset.

You can't understand why people wouldn't want to give their hard-earned money to vile, hateful people?

*sigh*


i don't understand why people would stop appreciating a piece of creative art just because the guy who made it is an asshole.  i can almost guarantee that your favorite author, musician, or actor has religious or political opinions that you will disagree with.  what are you going to do, just stop liking any books or movies at all until you can find someone whose beliefs completely mirror your own?  what if that person is adam sandler or uwe boll?
 
2013-04-19 02:20:25 PM  

Dhusk: Orson Scott Card is a vile homophobe.

Do not spend any money on this movie or any of his books.

Do not give a single dime or one iota of additional prestige to such an unmitigated bigot.


baker, biscuits etc

great book
 
2013-04-19 02:55:40 PM  

Boeheimian Rhapsody: Psycoholic_Slag: fustanella: Dhusk: Orson Scott Card is a vile homophobe.

Do not spend any money on this movie or any of his books.

Do not give a single dime or one iota of additional prestige to such an unmitigated bigot.

Dhusk speaks truth. I wasn't aware of this before kindling this book, so my apologies there.

Lots of great artists are douche bags.  If you are going to be consistent with your outrage you really need to take a look at your library of books, music, art, etc.. and start burning sh*t.

This.

Why would I care what a guy that writes about alien bugs thinks about same sex marriage?

My disdain for scientology doesn't stop me from enjoying Top Gun or Mission Impossible.

The fact that I enjoyed the Terminator series doesn't mean I agree with Arnold's political career.

Yes, metallica is a band comprised of some of the biggest douches in the world. Enter Sandman is still a great song.

Separate your opinions of the individual from their work and you'll find a lot more in life that you can enjoy.


Because by buying his books, seeing the movie, or doing anything else that gives him money you are helping him give money to those groups. I wouldn't buy things from a store that proudly gives part of their profits to the klan and I won't buy a book from an author who gives him money to oppress homosexuals.
 
2013-04-19 03:02:28 PM  

Dhusk: Orson Scott Card is a vile homophobe.

Do not spend any money on this movie or any of his books.

Do not give a single dime or one iota of additional prestige to such an unmitigated bigot.


Yet he's a lib.  Go figure.
 
2013-04-19 03:08:16 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: Dhusk: Orson Scott Card is a vile homophobe.

Do not spend any money on this movie or any of his books.

Do not give a single dime or one iota of additional prestige to such an unmitigated bigot.

Yet he's a lib.  Go figure.


A lib that supported Bush, McCain and Gingrich and says "Democrats in Congress care only about gaining political advantage."

yea he is a true beacon for progressive values.
 
2013-04-19 03:26:34 PM  

Dhusk: Orson Scott Card is a vile homophobe.

Do not spend any money on this movie or any of his books.

Do not give a single dime or one iota of additional prestige to such an unmitigated bigot.


So, are you advocating downloading it?
 
jvl
2013-04-19 03:32:03 PM  

Dhusk: Orson Scott Card is a vile homophobe.


Nope. But keep farking that chicken.

Hint: Being against homosexual marriage does not make one a homophobe. We're trying to convert people to vote for gay marriage, and slandering them wildly is less than helpful.
 
jvl
2013-04-19 03:36:55 PM  

Carth: yea he is a true beacon for progressive values.


He's very pro-welfare state and anti-business, so he's liberal economically and conservative socially, which makes him the exact opposite of me. Somehow I manage to like some of his books.

The Seventh Son series and the Homecoming Series really sucked. Homecoming features a Gay Character who is fundamentally good, but that isn't why it sucked.
 
2013-04-19 03:37:34 PM  

enderthexenocide: AkaDad: enderthexenocide: i don't even understand that mindset.

You can't understand why people wouldn't want to give their hard-earned money to vile, hateful people?

*sigh*

i don't understand why people would stop appreciating a piece of creative art just because the guy who made it is an asshole.  i can almost guarantee that your favorite author, musician, or actor has religious or political opinions that you will disagree with.  what are you going to do, just stop liking any books or movies at all until you can find someone whose beliefs completely mirror your own?  what if that person is adam sandler or uwe boll?


By that logic, Blood Diamonds and Sweatshop produced goods are not a problem at all.
 
2013-04-19 03:46:22 PM  

Hebalo: By that logic, Blood Diamonds and Sweatshop produced goods are not a problem at all.


Nice try. You are comparing slave labor situations with purchasing a product off someone with whom you do not share political views. They both involve supporting something you don't like but only one has direct links to pain and suffering.
 
2013-04-19 04:13:00 PM  

AkaDad: enderthexenocide: i don't even understand that mindset.

You can't understand why people wouldn't want to give their hard-earned money to vile, hateful people?

*sigh*


Cause I needs pizza!
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PIZZAAAAAAAAA!
 
2013-04-19 04:14:17 PM  

Farking Canuck: Hebalo: By that logic, Blood Diamonds and Sweatshop produced goods are not a problem at all.

Nice try. You are comparing slave labor situations with purchasing a product off someone with whom you do not share political views. They both involve supporting something you don't like but only one has direct links to pain and suffering.


It's not just a matter of "doesn't share political views." Orson Scott Card gives money and resources to anti-gay organizations, serves on the board of NOM, and is a loud and vocal bigot. On top of that, he's a climate change denier and viciously anti-Obama. He's the Ted Nugent of the science fiction world, and I would no sooner help give money to Orson Scott Card than I would donate to the NRCC.
 
2013-04-19 04:17:44 PM  

Crockett: Farking Canuck: Hebalo: By that logic, Blood Diamonds and Sweatshop produced goods are not a problem at all.

Nice try. You are comparing slave labor situations with purchasing a product off someone with whom you do not share political views. They both involve supporting something you don't like but only one has direct links to pain and suffering.

It's not just a matter of "doesn't share political views." Orson Scott Card gives money and resources to anti-gay organizations, serves on the board of NOM, and is a loud and vocal bigot. On top of that, he's a climate change denier and viciously anti-Obama. He's the Ted Nugent of the science fiction world, and I would no sooner help give money to Orson Scott Card than I would donate to the NRCC. has different political views.


FTFY
 
2013-04-19 04:25:54 PM  

Crockett: Farking Canuck: Hebalo: By that logic, Blood Diamonds and Sweatshop produced goods are not a problem at all.

Nice try. You are comparing slave labor situations with purchasing a product off someone with whom you do not share political views. They both involve supporting something you don't like but only one has direct links to pain and suffering.

It's not just a matter of "doesn't share political views." Orson Scott Card gives money and resources to anti-gay organizations, serves on the board of NOM, and is a loud and vocal bigot. On top of that, he's a climate change denier and viciously anti-Obama. He's the Ted Nugent of the science fiction world, and I would no sooner help give money to Orson Scott Card than I would donate to the NRCC.


That's all well and good. But it is also his right to do these things because he is someone who does not share political views with you.

Comparing his support of political hate groups to actual torture and violence is still hyperbole.
 
2013-04-19 04:28:52 PM  
meanmutton:

It's not just a matter of "doesn't share political views." Orson Scott Card gives money and resources to anti-gay organizations, serves on the board of NOM, and is a loud and vocal bigot. On top of that, he's a climate change denier and viciously anti-Obama. He's the Ted Nugent of the science fiction world, and I would no sooner help give money to Orson Scott Card than I would donate to the NRCC. has insane different political views.

FTFY
FTFY
 
2013-04-19 05:06:54 PM  

meanmutton: Crockett: Farking Canuck: Hebalo: By that logic, Blood Diamonds and Sweatshop produced goods are not a problem at all.

Nice try. You are comparing slave labor situations with purchasing a product off someone with whom you do not share political views. They both involve supporting something you don't like but only one has direct links to pain and suffering.

It's not just a matter of "doesn't share political views." Orson Scott Card gives money and resources to anti-gay organizations, serves on the board of NOM, and is a loud and vocal bigot. On top of that, he's a climate change denier and viciously anti-Obama. He's the Ted Nugent of the science fiction world, and I would no sooner help give money to Orson Scott Card than I would donate to the NRCC. has different political views.uses his fame and money to loudly and publicly advocate bigotry. And also is a raging douchebag.

FTFYFTFY

 
jvl
2013-04-19 05:13:22 PM  

Farking Canuck: On top of that, he's a climate change denier and viciously anti-Obama.


He's an anti-Obama meanie? HANG HIM FOR THE HERESY!  We liberals were never vicious about Bush!11!

/ Heresy is a lot like horesy
// Afraid of those farking bronies
 
2013-04-19 05:26:45 PM  

jvl: Farking Canuck: On top of that, he's a climate change denier and viciously anti-Obama.

He's an anti-Obama meanie? HANG HIM FOR THE HERESY!  We liberals were never vicious about Bush!11!

/ Heresy is a lot like horesy
// Afraid of those farking bronies


Please attribute your quotes properly ... this was not me.
 
2013-04-19 05:27:02 PM  

Dhusk: Orson Scott Card is a vile homophobe.

Do not spend any money on this movie or any of his books.

Do not give a single dime or one iota of additional prestige to such an unmitigated bigot.


Not to mention that the whole Ender's Game series of books is just one great big Morman masturbatory fantasy.
 
2013-04-19 05:36:54 PM  
Farking Canuck:

Comparing his support of political hate groups to actual torture and violence is still hyperbole.

Alright, I'll bite.  How so?   Use small words, I'm clearly failing to grasp how you feel there is an essential difference beyond which one is getting away with inflicting their lunacy on others.  Is there some acceptable threshold for hurting others I'm unaware of?
 
2013-04-19 05:40:50 PM  

jvl: Farking Canuck: On top of that, he's a climate change denier and viciously anti-Obama.

He's an anti-Obama meanie? HANG HIM FOR THE HERESY!  We liberals were never vicious about Bush!11!

/ Heresy is a lot like horesy
// Afraid of those farking bronies


Adverbs are hard.

Seriously, Card's political website is so full of derp it makes the American Thinker look like a bastion of sanity.
 
2013-04-19 05:40:54 PM  

Slaves2Darkness: Not to mention that the whole Ender's Game series of books is just one great big Morman masturbatory fantasy.


It has been a long time since I read 'Speaker for the Dead' or the third book so I cannot comment on them. But how is Ender's Game Morman? I had to stop reading his books because his religious crap got too intense but I didn't see it there.

He has one series where the inhabitants of a planet are not very advanced but are very religious (hmmm). It turns out their god exists but is actually a machine ... it is an AI on a satellite which has control systems for many things on the planet. It has, in fact, been playing god for generations (manipulating gene lines, weather, etc.).

This god satellite has been around a long time and is starting to malfunction so it decides to enlist the help of some of the residents of the planet for repairs. I don't know how the book ends because I had to stop reading it when the lead characters discovered the true nature of their 'god' (i.e. that it is just a computer built by their ancestors) and they consciously decided to continue to worship it anyway. This intense stupidity of the lead characters turned me completely off the book and the author.
 
2013-04-19 05:42:07 PM  
While I thought Enders Game was trash I am going to go see this movie just so OSC can keep up the good fight.
 
2013-04-19 05:46:29 PM  

LowbrowDeluxe: Farking Canuck:

Comparing his support of political hate groups to actual torture and violence is still hyperbole.

Alright, I'll bite.  How so?   Use small words, I'm clearly failing to grasp how you feel there is an essential difference beyond which one is getting away with inflicting their lunacy on others.  Is there some acceptable threshold for hurting others I'm unaware of?


Yes. The actual physical hurting. Harsh words vs. physical violence ... both are bad but there is a difference.

Simple concept. (concept means idea)

I am fully in support of equal rights which implicitly means I support gay marriage. I fully agree that people who try to stop others from being happy are dicks. But freedom of speech means these dicks are allowed to spew their hate.
 
2013-04-19 05:50:10 PM  

Saiga410: While I thought Enders Game was trash I am going to go see this movie just so OSC can keep up the good fight.


Ender's Game won both the Hugo Award and Nebula Award. Only 20 novels in history have ever accomplished this (its sequel is one of the other 19).

You are welcome to your opinion but I will not be taking book recommendations from you.
 
jvl
2013-04-19 05:57:24 PM  

Slaves2Darkness: Not to mention that the whole Ender's Game series of books is just one great big Morman masturbatory fantasy.


The "Homecoming" series is based on the LDS books, not Ender's Game. Please ensure you use your totally-not-hate-speech on the approved target.


Crockett:  Seriously, Card's political website is so full of derp it makes the American Thinker look like a bastion of sanity.

Yes, but doesn't crazy Uncle write the coolest stories? Well, except those ones about a revolution in the modern day US...


Farking Canuck: jvl: Farking Canuck:
Please attribute your quotes properly ... this was not me.


Speaking of missing the approved target.... ooops!
 
2013-04-19 06:01:34 PM  

Farking Canuck: LowbrowDeluxe: Farking Canuck:

Comparing his support of political hate groups to actual torture and violence is still hyperbole.

Alright, I'll bite.  How so?   Use small words, I'm clearly failing to grasp how you feel there is an essential difference beyond which one is getting away with inflicting their lunacy on others.  Is there some acceptable threshold for hurting others I'm unaware of?

Yes. The actual physical hurting. Harsh words vs. physical violence ... both are bad but there is a difference.

Simple concept. (concept means idea)

I am fully in support of equal rights which implicitly means I support gay marriage. I fully agree that people who try to stop others from being happy are dicks. But freedom of speech means these dicks are allowed to spew their hate.


He is free to say what he wants; I don't think anyone  is saying he isn't. People are saying they don't want to give him money to lobby against things they believe in. That makes perfect sense. Most people don't willingly give candidates they disagree with money why would you give a PAC you disagree with money?
 
2013-04-19 06:02:10 PM  

Dhusk: Orson Scott Card is a vile homophobe.

Do not spend any money on this movie or any of his books.

Do not give a single dime or one iota of additional prestige to such an unmitigated bigot.



There is quite a difference between a phobia and a dislike or disapproval. I wish people that use the "phobia" word would study the etymology of the word and stop using it. I dislike Honda's, would never buy one and don't respect those that drive them but they certainly don't scare me. By definition I'm not a "Hondaphobe".

And on a similar tangent, people that are famous in film, media and print (fiction) are telling a story. Does that make their political opinions more valid? They can spin a yarn or play a character, who gives a shiat who they vote for? That goes for both sides.

/will see Ender's Game, opening weekend.
 
2013-04-19 06:18:19 PM  

Dhusk: Psycoholic_Slag: fustanella: Dhusk: Orson Scott Card is a vile homophobe.

Do not spend any money on this movie or any of his books.

Do not give a single dime or one iota of additional prestige to such an unmitigated bigot.

Dhusk speaks truth. I wasn't aware of this before kindling this book, so my apologies there.

Lots of great artists are douche bags.  If you are going to be consistent with your outrage you really need to take a look at your library of books, music, art, etc.. and start burning sh*t.

There's douchebags, and then there's Card advocating treason and armed insurrection against the US government to stop the legalization of gay marriage.  That's beyond some guy being egotistical and saying occasional stupid things a la Frank Miller or Dan Simmons.


Or John Byrne, or Tom Clancy, or any of the other soulless writers and cartoonists out there whose tastes lean toward homophobia, misogyny, racism and the like.  Screw those idiots.
 
2013-04-19 06:18:56 PM  

jvl: Crockett:  Seriously, Card's political website is so full of derp it makes the American Thinker look like a bastion of sanity.

Yes, but doesn't crazy Uncle write the coolest stories? Well, except those ones about a revolution in the modern day US...


That was the last thing of Card's I ever read. And it actually wasn't the right-wing masturbatory fantasy that bothered me, so much as the fact that it read like it was written by a 12-year-old and then published with no editing.
 
2013-04-19 06:26:18 PM  
Card is a douchebag of the highest order, and he wrote this series into the ground in the worst way, but Ender's Game is art - and a damn good yarn.

I'll see the movie if it is determined to be a good adaptation regardless.
 
jvl
2013-04-19 06:45:08 PM  

Crockett: jvl: Yes, but doesn't crazy Uncle write the coolest stories? Well, except those ones about a revolution in the modern day US...

That was the last thing of Card's I ever read. And it actually wasn't the right-wing masturbatory fantasy that bothered me, so much as the fact that it read like it was written by a 12-year-old and then published with no editing.


How did you not see that coming? A book where revolution happens in the US: there is no way to go except full retard.
 
2013-04-19 07:19:42 PM  
Finally! A Minecraft movie!

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2013-04-19 08:14:57 PM  
I really, really, really want somebody to take the central concepts of Pastwatch and give them to a capable, skilled, non-right-wing-lunatic author.

There are some awesome story ideas in there, but they're wasted in the hands of somebody determined to describe a global Christian government as the pinnacle of alternate history.
 
2013-04-19 10:18:45 PM  
I've recently been reading a bunch of science fiction and fantasy books.  Some, like Mark Lawrence's Prince of Thorns have been hilarious (and good).  Ender's Game is definitely one of the best.  I highly recommend it and I'm excited for the movie.

Plus if anyone wants to read something fun that borrows heavily from Ender's game... http://hpmor.com/chapter/1
 
2013-04-19 11:14:39 PM  

Andrew Wiggin: EnderX: Oh I might watch this.

not before me


your fark handle is after next year's #1 kentucky recruit? awesome!
 
2013-04-19 11:31:01 PM  

Farking Canuck: Saiga410: While I thought Enders Game was trash I am going to go see this movie just so OSC can keep up the good fight.

Ender's Game won both the Hugo Award and Nebula Award. Only 20 novels in history have ever accomplished this (its sequel is one of the other 19).

You are welcome to your opinion but I will not be taking book recommendations from you.


Speaker for the Dead was a better book than Ender's Game, pound for pound,
 
2013-04-19 11:54:25 PM  

Hebalo: Speaker for the Dead was a better book than Ender's Game, pound for pound,


I certainly liked it and felt it was also worthy of the Hugo and Nebula. But Ender's game is still the winner for me.
 
2013-04-20 01:40:45 AM  

Psycoholic_Slag: Dhusk: Psycoholic_Slag: fustanella: Dhusk: Orson Scott Card is a vile homophobe.

Do not spend any money on this movie or any of his books.

Do not give a single dime or one iota of additional prestige to such an unmitigated bigot.

Dhusk speaks truth. I wasn't aware of this before kindling this book, so my apologies there.

Lots of great artists are douche bags.  If you are going to be consistent with your outrage you really need to take a look at your library of books, music, art, etc.. and start burning sh*t.

There's douchebags, and then there's Card advocating treason and armed insurrection against the US government to stop the legalization of gay marriage.  That's beyond some guy being egotistical and saying occasional stupid things a la Frank Miller or Dan Simmons.

Card is a minor player in a huge game. Check out Wagner, T.S. Eliot, Degas, Byron, Nabokov, Hemingway and Dickens (to name a few) if you want to get into anti-semitism, misogyny, racism, pedophilia and sexual abuse (to name a few).


If you're going to bring up Eliot, it only seems fair to mention Pound. Yes, all of those 1970s undergraduates rhapsodizing over (and buying) the Cantos were giving their money to a guy who broadcast on Axis radio and came close to being shot for treason. (I liked George Orwell's take on that question, which was basically "I hope Pound doesn't get shot, because if he does it will be impossible to objectively judge his poetry for about 200 years.") It's a fact that good writers and artists have can sometimes be crazy assholes, just like everyone else. If their work is good enough, it will transcend that fact -- a really good work is always better than its author anyway.
 
2013-04-20 02:30:37 AM  

Psycoholic_Slag: fustanella: Dhusk: Orson Scott Card is a vile homophobe.

Do not spend any money on this movie or any of his books.

Do not give a single dime or one iota of additional prestige to such an unmitigated bigot.

Dhusk speaks truth. I wasn't aware of this before kindling this book, so my apologies there.

Lots of great artists are douche bags.  If you are going to be consistent with your outrage you really need to take a look at your library of books, music, art, etc.. and start burning sh*t.


This. You can always donate an equal sum to a same-sex marriage cause to negate the money going to Card. Also he is rich already, so if you're not into futile gestures...

Anyway I hope it is good, I enjoyed the Ender series despite Card's apparent dickishness.
 
2013-04-20 05:39:47 PM  

Farking Canuck: LowbrowDeluxe: Farking Canuck:

Comparing his support of political hate groups to actual torture and violence is still hyperbole.

Alright, I'll bite.  How so?   Use small words, I'm clearly failing to grasp how you feel there is an essential difference beyond which one is getting away with inflicting their lunacy on others.  Is there some acceptable threshold for hurting others I'm unaware of?

Yes. The actual physical hurting. Harsh words vs. physical violence ... both are bad but there is a difference.

Simple concept. (concept means idea)

I am fully in support of equal rights which implicitly means I support gay marriage. I fully agree that people who try to stop others from being happy are dicks. But freedom of speech means these dicks are allowed to spew their hate.


No one is saying that Card can't say what he wants, or should be in jail, or can't write books.

The issue here is that some people do not want to buy his products because he puts that money towards anti-gay things like Prop 8 and NOM.

Dude is nucking futs. He's written several anti-gay diatribes calling for the overthrow of America if gay marriage gets legalized.
 
2013-04-20 05:43:24 PM  

Rubber Biscuit: John Byrne


John Byrne created Northstar, one of comic book's gay icons, as well as Maggie Sawyer (a lesbian cop) in his Superman run. Unless you're referring to some other John Bryne, you're sadly mistaken.
 
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