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2013-04-19 10:25:24 AM
Boston station has a tag line: AP reports that Dad called his son "a true angel."

Not yet, but I'm sure we will do all we can to get him free of his body.
 
2013-04-19 10:25:32 AM

Smgth: Why does this have to be political in ANY way?


Because some people are only capable of seeing everything through a political prism, and vocally keep score with every marginal event that they believe validates their political viewpoint.
 
2013-04-19 10:25:38 AM

JustGetItRight: InmanRoshi: Derpers have only gone 1 for 2 this week on domestic terrorism, after the TeaTard was caught for the Ricin attacks.

First, this is a tea tard?

[patterico.com image 487x392]

A guy who attacks a US senator with a near 100% positive rating from the NRA and just about any other conservative organization isn't exactly following the tea party line.  He's simply an equal opportunity nut.

The part you and the other libs miss (actually ignore because it is uncomfortable) is that even if he was acting as part of a political movement, his actions were a perfect fit for domestic terrorists from both the left and right.  He went after specific targets that were directly linked to his agenda.  Even if he hadn't signed the letter, he would be easily tagged as a domestic.

The internationals go for shock effect - specifically targeting random civilian populations.  A market in Baghdad.  A school in Russia.  A marathon in Boston.


That's not his Lexus.
 
2013-04-19 10:25:38 AM

bdub77: Theaetetus: JerseyTim: I think we found a motivation: Apparently, he went to Prom with Snooki.

[s3-ec.buzzfed.com image 625x838]
What a butterface. All beige and blocky.

I have found the explosive devices:

[i.imgur.com image 625x838]


It looks like a courteousy prom date. Note the other guy has open hands hugging the date (and getting some boob), he has his hands closed.  It was probably the photographer that made him put his arms there.

/I should know, I'm a CNN body gesture analyst.
 
2013-04-19 10:25:45 AM

The Evil That Lies In The Hearts Of Men: rufus-t-firefly: [images.scribblelive.com image 500x281]

How long until the LAPD shoot up a red ford F-150 with TX plates...


That's just a training run.
 
2013-04-19 10:25:50 AM
Time this guy stopped for another slurpee.
 
2013-04-19 10:26:12 AM
police scanner just said 63 boylston st open cellar door...or something...
 
2013-04-19 10:26:27 AM

WhyteRaven74: muck4doo: Do Chechens speak Russian as their native language? Serious question.

Many do speak Russian as their native/first language, though there are some for whom it's Chechen.


jonathan_L: muck4doo: Do Chechens speak Russian as their native language? Serious question.

They do, but I think it's probably learned at school. They natively speak Chechen.


Thanks for the answer. My son is going to graduate from Baylor next month, and is in the Army ROTC(was originally in Air Force ROTC, but funding got cut). They've had him studying Russian for four years.
 
2013-04-19 10:26:27 AM

orclover: Ok three different kids who knew the younger one have hinted that they smoked weed with the guy.  Obviously we need to ban weed.

How did this farker have time to make bombs and plan an attack.


We need to send them all back to middle school if they keep dropping the "We msoked pot man, he can't be bad."  They can move on once they can cogently explain what hashish is and potential consumers of said item.
 
2013-04-19 10:26:33 AM

JustGetItRight: InmanRoshi: Derpers have only gone 1 for 2 this week on domestic terrorism, after the TeaTard was caught for the Ricin attacks.

First, this is a tea tard?

[patterico.com image 487x392]

A guy who attacks a US senator with a near 100% positive rating from the NRA and just about any other conservative organization isn't exactly following the tea party line.  He's simply an equal opportunity nut.

The part you and the other libs miss (actually ignore because it is uncomfortable) is that even if he was acting as part of a political movement, his actions were a perfect fit for domestic terrorists from both the left and right.  He went after specific targets that were directly linked to his agenda.  Even if he hadn't signed the letter, he would be easily tagged as a domestic.

The internationals go for shock effect - specifically targeting random civilian populations.  A market in Baghdad.  A school in Russia.  A marathon in Boston.


That right there is where you ruin your argument. By not calling other people names, you strengthen your credibility.

/the more you know
 
2013-04-19 10:26:35 AM
is that a pressure cooker?

img.photobucket.com

nailed it
 
2013-04-19 10:26:41 AM
Lol - listening to the scanner now.  How do people understand anyone from Boston?  Talk about an accent.
 
2013-04-19 10:26:48 AM
Craziness. Been trying to keep up with this all morning. You guys are the best news source.
 
2013-04-19 10:26:54 AM
Some guy dropped a duffle bag and took off by "Save the Harbor, Save the Bay". They are looking for him.
 
2013-04-19 10:26:54 AM
Huh..Some random dick dropped a hockey bag in front of some store and took off running, they're in pursuit and investigating the bag.
 
2013-04-19 10:26:55 AM

Coco LaFemme: DamnYankees: It's really amazing how utterly useless mainstream media is in events like this.

Twitter and other Internet sources were running with the story of the MIT shooting/carjacking nearly a full hour before any of the cable news stations picked up on it.  In fact, shiat was going down in Watertown before CNN even broke with the story that anyone had been shot at MIT.


Can you blame them after the last few days?  I wouldn't be surprised if they started playing it safe, at least for a while.

/"This just in... Apple dropped on English scientist's head leads to interesting theory."
 
2013-04-19 10:26:56 AM
Sounds like a duffle bag was just dropped off somewhere and the guy took off.
 
2013-04-19 10:26:58 AM
Someone dropping duffle bag and running....
 
2013-04-19 10:26:59 AM
Just saw a mom taking her kids out for a bike ride in my neighborhood in Framingham.  Made me proud.
 
2013-04-19 10:26:59 AM
What did that cop say about the Honda? It was too faint for me to make out.
 
2013-04-19 10:27:00 AM

TheShavingofOccam123: /someone said H.H. Holmes wasn't typical because he went to university and got his medical degree and prospered whereas in general psychopaths tend to just enough to get by.


Holmes was more of a male black widow.
 
2013-04-19 10:27:03 AM

KarmicDisaster: Theaetetus: DrPainMD: All of Boston on lockdown? Fark that. It's time to biatchslap the government and let them know who's in charge... we the people.

[www.celebrateboston.com image 420x270]
What the last time all of Boston was in lockdown looked like

Is Crispus Attucks OK?


#prayforcrispus
 
2013-04-19 10:27:04 AM

jso2897: Jim from Saint Paul: jso2897: Farkers have been wrong about EVERYTHING so far, and I will take your word for what it is worth - jack shiat.

jso2897: Farkers have been wrong about EVERYTHING so far, and I will take your word for what it is worth - jack shiat.

jso2897: Farkers have been wrong about EVERYTHING so far, and I will take your word for what it is worth - jack shiat.

Sorry - but, in the last twenty-four hours, Farkers have infromed me that the bombers are:
Two random guys in the New York Post.
A missing Indian student.
Teabaggers.
Redneck gun nuts.
Occupy Wall Streeters.
Anarchists.
Iranian or Saudi intel or other operatives.
Mossad.
Jihadists.
Nihilists.
Lunatics.
Please forgive me for failing to buy into whatever the current "theory" is.


Bonus from yesterday's photo release thread: Iranian, based on their Arab noses.

The best theories are the ones that contradict themselves.
 
2013-04-19 10:27:05 AM
Oh, dammit. Reports that the older brother may have a 2-year-old child.
 
2013-04-19 10:27:07 AM
Scanner says some guy just dropped a duffel bag and took off.  Unclear if in a car or on foot.
 
2013-04-19 10:27:08 AM

awalkingecho: jso2897: I have no knowledge that he "says" anything - they haven't caught him, and may not catch him alive. I remind you - Farkers have been wrong about EVERYTHING so far, and I will take your word for what it is worth - jack shiat.

At least half of us were right that they were white.


Some people did speculate that it was a couple Columbine wannas-be, and that may be the case.  I think it's premature to say that nobody won the betting pool.
 
2013-04-19 10:27:10 AM

epocalypse: well, they are inarguably caucasian, so I guess anyone assuming that they were white is technically correct.


I hear that's the best kind of correct.  For the person saying the suspects aren't white.  They look pretty damn white to me.
 
2013-04-19 10:27:18 AM
Boston PD have deployed weaponized termites to take down the house.
 
2013-04-19 10:27:27 AM

Mrfusticle: So if fundie Islamists aren't right wing what are they then? Commies?


You said there is -NO- difference between fundamentalist Islam and the Tea Party.  Nobody could be that dim.
 
2013-04-19 10:27:30 AM

GoldSpider: jso2897: I have no knowledge that he "says" anything - they haven't caught him, and may not catch him alive. I remind you - Farkers have been wrong about EVERYTHING so far, and I will take your word for what it is worth - jack shiat.

If I go back and check the original bombing threads, will I find you postulating about the ideology of the perpetrator(s)?


Nope.
 
2013-04-19 10:27:34 AM
Have they interviewed any of the neighbor's neighbor's dogs yet?  **yawn**, time to go look at porn now.
 
2013-04-19 10:27:43 AM
Duffel bag just dropped somewhere in town, and guy carrying it ran away.  Officers investigating...per scanner
 
2013-04-19 10:27:49 AM
 
2013-04-19 10:28:12 AM

jso2897: Nihilists.


www.julienslive.com
 
2013-04-19 10:28:12 AM

tlars699: Fark has a different link about how AnheiserBusch heir stepped away from NRA because of it.


There is no A-B heir. InBev owns A-B.
 
2013-04-19 10:28:16 AM

IlGreven: If he'd been in the country 10 years at that point, why hadn't he been naturalized already?


CBC reporting that the older brother had been arrested for assaulting his girlfriend. Getting arrested blocks the naturalization process cold.

/Mrs Servo is naturalized
 
2013-04-19 10:28:16 AM

JustGetItRight: InmanRoshi: Derpers have only gone 1 for 2 this week on domestic terrorism, after the TeaTard was caught for the Ricin attacks.

First, this is a tea tard?



Well, I guess that puts InmanRoshi's claim straight to shiat now, don't it. Aw.
 
2013-04-19 10:28:19 AM

WhyteRaven74: LewDux: I really doubt it

As someone who is full blooded Slavic, Slavic people have referred to themselves as such for ages. Indeed for some Slavs, like Czechs it's been an intense matter of pride for oh a thousand years or so.

muck4doo: Do Chechens speak Russian as their native language? Serious question.

Many do speak Russian as their native/first language, though there are some for whom it's Chechen.


================

According the Fox News fans, Tea-Tards and Israeli firsters, there is no such thing as a Slav.  It's all a Nazi invention.  There are evil Russians (who are not Slavic because that doesn't exist), and these bomber guys are Russians, beause, you know MURICA.
 
2013-04-19 10:28:19 AM
Police scanner says they found someone drop a duffel bag here:

i.imgur.com
 
2013-04-19 10:28:23 AM

Infernalist: Huh..Some random dick dropped a hockey bag in front of some store and took off running, they're in pursuit and investigating the bag.


Every so often I find myself willing to overlook a moderate amount of police brutality.
 
2013-04-19 10:28:28 AM

jso2897: Jim from Saint Paul: jso2897: Farkers have been wrong about EVERYTHING so far, and I will take your word for what it is worth - jack shiat.

jso2897: Farkers have been wrong about EVERYTHING so far, and I will take your word for what it is worth - jack shiat.

jso2897: Farkers have been wrong about EVERYTHING so far, and I will take your word for what it is worth - jack shiat.

Sorry - but, in the last twenty-four hours, Farkers have infromed me that the bombers are:
Two random guys in the New York Post.
A missing Indian student.
Teabaggers.
Redneck gun nuts.
Occupy Wall Streeters.
Anarchists.
Iranian or Saudi intel or other operatives.
Mossad.
Jihadists.
Nihilists.
Lunatics.
Please forgive me for failing to buy into whatever the current "theory" is.


Sounds like the plot to "The Big Lebowski II".
 
2013-04-19 10:28:29 AM

Silly Jesus: UNC_Samurai: Smgth: Mike Chewbacca: This thread(s) was better in the middle of the night when all the idiots were sleeping.

A million times THIS!

No one blabbing on and on about 'libs' and 'rightwing' and yadda yadda...

Why does this have to be political in ANY way?

Because the FARK admins and mods let the trolls overrun the Politics Tab over the course of the last few years.

Because in all of the previous threads Farkers were having a circle jerk fantasizing about it being a Tea Bagger on Tax Day.  Now that it's Islamists it's all "why bring up that it wasn't tea tards, man?"


This. Every time a bagger screws the pooch everyone circles up and huuurrs as hard as they can. Shiat, in the gunthreads wild pigs still get trotted out and that crap is well over a month old.

Take you licks and get over it.
 
2013-04-19 10:28:30 AM
Sooo is it a manhunt or do they have the guy cornered? Should I go to infowars.com?
 
2013-04-19 10:28:34 AM

jso2897: Jim from Saint Paul: jso2897: Farkers have been wrong about EVERYTHING so far, and I will take your word for what it is worth - jack shiat.

jso2897: Farkers have been wrong about EVERYTHING so far, and I will take your word for what it is worth - jack shiat.

jso2897: Farkers have been wrong about EVERYTHING so far, and I will take your word for what it is worth - jack shiat.

Sorry - but, in the last twenty-four hours, Farkers have infromed me that the bombers are:
Two random guys in the New York Post.
A missing Indian student.
Teabaggers.
Redneck gun nuts.
Occupy Wall Streeters.
Anarchists.
Iranian or Saudi intel or other operatives.
Mossad.
Jihadists.
Nihilists.
Lunatics.
Please forgive me for failing to buy into whatever the current "theory" is.


Well, we'll all go hand in our Press Association passes in the morning .. I mean Fark must maintain it's image as a reputable news source
 
2013-04-19 10:28:35 AM

vygramul: DrPainMD: rev. dave: So are we going to bomb the hell out of Chechnya now?  Or are we going to take turns with the Russians making the place as flat as Kansas?

I really hope we don't - so tired of war.

Ummm... we've been waging war, covertly, in Chechnya for a long time. As in decades.

Fissile: That's funny, because the bombers aren't Russian either(despite how the press is trying to spin it), they're Chechens.........America's good Muslim Chechen friends.  The people America paid to destabilize Russia and murder Russian school kids.

One of you is really wrong.


Considering the vast majority of discussion in history and foreign policy, is about how the US walked a path of intentional ambivalence in Chechen relations while actively intervening in the Balkans, in an effort to maintain normalized relations with Russia?  You typically only get the "America was trying to destabilize Russia using Chechnya" argument from crazy people who think the New World Order is a thing.
 
2013-04-19 10:28:35 AM

INeedAName: BraveNewCheneyWorld: Xcott: It's strange to see someone get all huffy and offended when people speculate.  I imagine you standing next to a roulette table, screaming "LOOK, IT WAS 17.  ALL OF YOU IDIOTS WHO THOUGHT YOU KNEW WHAT NUMBER IT WOULD BE SHOULD GO FARK YOURSELVES AND BE ASHAMED OF YOUR LIES."

That is perhaps the dumbest comparison ever.  The usual Dem loyalists were trying to exploit a tragedy to demonize their political opponents.  No matter how you look at it, they're immoral douches.  It's really amusing how many people are coming out of the woodwork to defend and downplay their behavior though.  It's almost as if a few people feel guilty...

It's almost as if you're a moron. How many right-wingers did they same thing? Let's not pretend like only one side of this story has stupidity. You certainly seem to be bringing your fair share to the table.

And as an aside, I have no respect for anyone on either spot who wanted to use this as a chance to smear someone who was in no way related.


Really?  You think left wingers were being blamed in remotely the same numbers as right wingers?  It's funny, you start out calling me a moron, then reveal yourself to be one.

bugontherug: Dem loyalists and Teahadists speculated equally about opposing ideological motives.


that is why you fail.
 
2013-04-19 10:28:40 AM
A little late finally getting to a computer. I was listening to Fox in my car around 8:45 and an explosion was heard. I figured then that this shiatbird probably blew his vest. Any reason to suspect he's still alive?
 
2013-04-19 10:28:45 AM

rocinante721: [l.yimg.com image 512x342]

Pissed-off Irish guys in body armor.

This is an IRA wet dream

I think the one on the right is Cardinal Egan


Old dude on the right hasn't "killed anyone in awhile" and he plans on changing that today.
 
2013-04-19 10:28:53 AM

Haliburton Cummings: Darth_Lukecash: ZeroCorpse: dababler: Everyone is describing the brothers as super polite, good athletes, decent students, good people so....WHY THE fark DID THEY DO IT?!

The one that was killed was Muslim, and listened to the teachings of a radical prior to his arrival in America approximately a year ago. He was up for the Olympics. `Not sure what happened there, but clearly he's not rocking the Gold Medal, so he didn't make it for some reason. He had expressed in the past that he didn't understand Americans and had a hard time making friends here. He seemed concerned with Americans' immoral behavior-- I can only assume he meant this from a religious point of view.

So there are a few motives right there:
1. Bitter about his own athletic career hitting a wall, takes it out on other athletes.
2. Radical Muslim teachings.
3. Felt like an outcast.
4. Believed Americans are immoral heathens.
5. Came from a place where war and terrorism are acceptable answers to your problems.

My guess? He grew up seeing a lot of bad things. He was influenced by a radical religious teacher. He felt alone and excluded here in America because of his religion and foreignness. He was angry that he didn't get to represent America in the Olympics. He convinced his brother to join him in a personal crusade to get revenge or make a personal statement.

I've known athletes who take failure to be a sign that they have nothing left to live for. They take their sports very seriously, and it could be as simple as that: He dedicated his life to boxing with Olympic dreams, and when he fell short, he snapped.

It's very doubtful he was acting for a group. It's more likely he was a sad, angry man who let radical religion, extreme sports conditioning, and his own feelings of failure drive him to extremism and petty revenge.

The brothers grew up in US, went to high school in US.

the Columbine kids did it for kicks.

some people do really mean things just for kicks...


That's what separates the really sick ones for me. Motivation. If people kill for money or something they can justify in their weak little psychotic minds, that's one thing. But there are people who just enjoy watching people die or suffer.
 
2013-04-19 10:28:56 AM

Bontesla: Shyla: Dimensio: Grand_Moff_Joseph: lol, scanner reporting that the K9 dogs are over hours, and need to go on break

Holy Crap, scanner just said the spent round they just found was a .40cal

.40S&W is a caliber often used by police officers.

The last officer talking about it on the scanner said "It looks like one of ours"

Oh my god. Those K9s get better treatment than I do.

/Hi everyone.
// apparently I missed a lot
/// I was also wrong about my profile. Wah_wah
//// have not had coffee


I was like "here's a disaster thread, where's the green posts from Bontesla?

/I have you farkied in a happy green color.
 
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