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2013-04-19 10:11:25 AM  
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2013-04-19 10:11:29 AM  

dababler: Everyone is describing the brothers as super polite, good athletes, decent students, good people so....WHY THE fark DID THEY DO IT?!


The one that was killed was Muslim, and listened to the teachings of a radical prior to his arrival in America approximately a year ago. He was up for the Olympics. `Not sure what happened there, but clearly he's not rocking the Gold Medal, so he didn't make it for some reason. He had expressed in the past that he didn't understand Americans and had a hard time making friends here. He seemed concerned with Americans' immoral behavior-- I can only assume he meant this from a religious point of view.

So there are a few motives right there:
1. Bitter about his own athletic career hitting a wall, takes it out on other athletes.
2. Radical Muslim teachings.
3. Felt like an outcast.
4. Believed Americans are immoral heathens.
5. Came from a place where war and terrorism are acceptable answers to your problems.

My guess? He grew up seeing a lot of bad things. He was influenced by a radical religious teacher. He felt alone and excluded here in America because of his religion and foreignness. He was angry that he didn't get to represent America in the Olympics. He convinced his brother to join him in a personal crusade to get revenge or make a personal statement.

I've known athletes who take failure to be a sign that they have nothing left to live for. They take their sports very seriously, and it could be as simple as that: He dedicated his life to boxing with Olympic dreams, and when he fell short, he snapped.

It's very doubtful he was acting for a group. It's more likely he was a sad, angry man who let radical religion, extreme sports conditioning, and his own feelings of failure drive him to extremism and petty revenge.
 
2013-04-19 10:11:34 AM  
Wait, who was the farker who just said their dog had to go for a walk? Just heard on WCVB that someone tried to do that and got forced back in their house by the cops....
 
2013-04-19 10:11:43 AM  

mikebellman: Killing the suspects instead of capturing them really puts the Laughter in Slaughter. Don't let the American public have any answers, Johnny Law.


Would you recommend tranquilizer darts or sleeping gas?
 
2013-04-19 10:11:43 AM  

seventypercent: What if you live in Boston but have run out of beer? Are you still not allowed to leave your home, or does that constitute a medical emergency?


All I have is a bottle of Barenjager. :/
 
2013-04-19 10:11:47 AM  

ZeroCorpse: RELEVENT:

A neighbor of Tsarnaev's said he has been in the country at least since he was 7.

So can we please stop saying this is some sort of foreign attack? These guys seem to have been  AMERICANS of Chechen descent.

If we're going to go after these guys for their heritage, then we might as well go back to attacking all gingers for their connection to the IRA, and all people of English descent for their attachment to the attacks against the Colonies.


No. If they were born in America, then they'd be Americans of Chechen descent. Here, they're Chechens who've lived in America a long time.  Hell, in the 2010 BU piece on the older one, he says one of his dreams is to be naturalized.  If he'd been in the country 10 years at that point, why hadn't he been naturalized already?

And if identifying as American rather than Chechen is relevant, than identifying as Muslim is also relevant, right?
 
2013-04-19 10:11:51 AM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: I'm not denying that people were snarking about it being TP type folks. But, there were plenty of others jumping instantly on the muslim wagon too.


Very true, it's ugly when anyone tries to use a tragedy to validate their prejudices.
 
2013-04-19 10:11:51 AM  

Giltric: /grain of salt

Beck was saying on his radio show that he has confirmation from senators that the Saudi that was detained the other day was involved but they are deporting him instead of prosecuting

/end grain of salt

Sort of jives with what I said in another thread....hes probably involved but a member of the house of Saud so he is untouchable.


Actually, if Glenn Beck said it I'm going to go ahead and believe the opposite.  That has usually steered me towards the truth.
 
2013-04-19 10:11:54 AM  

UNC_Samurai: Smgth: Mike Chewbacca: This thread(s) was better in the middle of the night when all the idiots were sleeping.

A million times THIS!

No one blabbing on and on about 'libs' and 'rightwing' and yadda yadda...

Why does this have to be political in ANY way?

Because the FARK admins and mods let the trolls overrun the Politics Tab over the course of the last few years.


Remember that brief period after a huge purge of trolls? That was awesome.
 
2013-04-19 10:11:59 AM  
Damn.. Fark's pagination's gone tits up alright
 
2013-04-19 10:12:03 AM  
Regarding the incident in Niagara Falls:  I saw the Bomb Squad truck speeding up the 190 from Buffalo to the Falls.  But now the local Buffalo TV stations are saying the incident is "routine", and the folks involved weren't even Russians.

In short, itchy-trigger-finger antics from Da Falls Police.
 
2013-04-19 10:12:07 AM  

InmanRoshi: Shryke: Maud Dib: Awww, shall I fetch your fainting couch?

Hey, you were one of them, if I recall correctly (may be wrong). How you feeling this morning?

Derpers have only gone 1 for 2 this week on domestic terrorism, after the TeaTard was caught for the Ricin attacks.   Yeah, I bet the farkers speculating they might have been 2 for 2 are feel real embarassed for feeling so, so, so far off.


Please cite your evidence that the ricin suspect was in the Tea Party.
 
2013-04-19 10:12:08 AM  
The Honda has been cleared.
 
2013-04-19 10:12:10 AM  

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: Silly Jesus: But Fark told me it would be right wing TeaTards?!?!?!

And it turned out to be more crazy Islamists?

You let me down, Fark.

Gun-toting white Islamic foreigners that grew up here.  It's the perfect screen for everyone to project their favourite demon on!


CORRECTION:  Gun-toting Islamic backward cap wearing douchebag foreigners that grew up here.

Buried the lead, dammit.
 
2013-04-19 10:12:14 AM  

Vodka Zombie: Matthew Keene: Vodka Zombie: funk_soul_bubby: Fox 25 now interviewing some chick who farked him...

Awesome!  More Fox-based slut shaming.

Well, he is kinda cute. I'd do him. Well, if not for all that cop killing, Marathon Bombing, 7-11 robbing shiat.

Dude.  Everyone has baggage.


Well, there went the coffee.
 
2013-04-19 10:12:16 AM  

jaybeezey: Wanebo: It's not a good day to be a swarthy young adult in Boston.

When is there a good one?


October 27, 2004 and October 28, 2007 weren't too bad.
 
2013-04-19 10:12:24 AM  

Infernalist: USP .45: Coco LaFemme: Absolutely NO ONE is pissed off that the suspects aren't Cletus the Slack-Jawed Yokel and his sister/wife Wanda Mae.  Okay?

this is provably false.

Prove it, then.


yeah I'm going to go through 40 paginations and quote everyone.
 
2013-04-19 10:12:27 AM  

TheShavingofOccam123: BarkingUnicorn: dababler: Everyone is describing the brothers as super polite, good athletes, decent students, good people so....WHY THE fark DID THEY DO IT?!

They were bullied.

A lot of psychopaths are extremely polite, humble, decent people. Like Pickton the pig farmer in Canada. He was very nice until he got his handcuffs on you. Then not so much.

/the strange thing is many of them are absolute pigs living in squalor but they are polite pigs
/someone said H.H. Holmes wasn't typical because he went to university and got his medical degree and prospered whereas in general psychopaths tend to just enough to get by.


Whatever studies you're paraphrasing obviously didn't cover Wall Street so they're invalid.
 
2013-04-19 10:12:30 AM  

DamnYankees: It's really amazing how utterly useless mainstream media is in events like this.


QFT
 
2013-04-19 10:12:34 AM  

mynameismark: msupf: mynameismark: So the kid ran over his brother that was just shot by cops? How then did the cops lose this guy?

Something seems fishy...

you are condensing 12 hours of events down into two sentences that aren't even correct.


What is incorrect about it? That's all that I'm hearing. Were you there, that you know better?

 Well,for one thing, I've been around for the whole damn shebang so far. And at no point has it been confirmed the brother was run over by the younger bro. There was a hit and run pedestrian related to all this, but it was an indian man whose name launched speculation as to it being the missing Brown U student. Here's more, accurate summation:

Apparent convenience store robbery
MIT cop responds, these clowns shoot him multiple times
They carjack somebody. Victim's name becomes a suspect name thanks to idiots listening.
Hit-and-Run event with an Indian man. This launches people to name the Brown U student as suspect.
At some point they're in an SUV that may have been a stolen police vehicle
They shoot at the cops and throw and/or plant grenades and/or IEDs
(No kidding, on the scanner there was something akin to "Shots fired! Shots fired! Grenade! Grenade! Grenade!", and there's a YouTube video out there with half a minute of sustained gunfire) Photos of after mathof firefight posted to twitter by a resident
Running firefight
"Black Hat" shot multiple times, possibly injured by bomb strapped to chest (chest burns referenced at one point)
"White Hat" escapes
"Black Hat" taken to Beth Israel, dies
Code Black (usually means bomb or bomb threat) at area Beth Israel (confirmed)
Lockdown event at nearby Children's Hospital, no threat found
"White Hat" spotted (twice?) but gets away, possibly in another firefight
Now at large.

/Oh, and at some point an innocent who was very much in the wrong place at the wrong time spent 20m face-down on the ground with a robot probing him, then he was stripped and put in the back of a police vehicle before being cleared.
 
2013-04-19 10:12:38 AM  
Do Chechens speak Russian as their native language? Serious question.
 
2013-04-19 10:12:39 AM  
So, now that these guys apparently aren't Tea Party people, does that mean Alex Jones and all the "false flag" people will suddenly decide that the attacks were legit after all?
 
2013-04-19 10:12:41 AM  
So I just checked the Broadcastify scanner feed, and it says, " MA State PD and Boston Police have requested via social media to not post search locations for the Boston bombing suspects - the Boston PD feed is temporarily offline due to this request. " So yeah, the good feeds are dead. So I'm out. It's 7:12am and I've been awake 23 hours. Hopefully when I wake up the guy the guy will be in custody.
 
2013-04-19 10:12:59 AM  

Raharu: Site your sources?


Cite* ;)
 
2013-04-19 10:13:14 AM  

FriarReb98: Wait, who was the farker who just said their dog had to go for a walk? Just heard on WCVB that someone tried to do that and got forced back in their house by the cops....


That would be a buddy of mine about an hour ago -.-
 
2013-04-19 10:13:17 AM  
Hey guys - anyone want to talk about the new version of Simpson-Bowles released this morning? Let's get into it!

/not really
 
2013-04-19 10:13:19 AM  

Dimensio: Grand_Moff_Joseph: lol, scanner reporting that the K9 dogs are over hours, and need to go on break

Holy Crap, scanner just said the spent round they just found was a .40cal

.40S&W is a caliber often used by police officers.


The last officer talking about it on the scanner said "It looks like one of ours"
 
2013-04-19 10:13:25 AM  

Dimensio: Grand_Moff_Joseph: lol, scanner reporting that the K9 dogs are over hours, and need to go on break

Holy Crap, scanner just said the spent round they just found was a .40cal

.40S&W is a caliber often used by police officers.


We need 30 boxes of beggin strips, stat!
 
2013-04-19 10:13:30 AM  

Fissile: Slavic people self identified as Slavic for centuries.


I really doubt it
 
2013-04-19 10:13:31 AM  

muck4doo: Mrfusticle: muck4doo: [trailers.apple.com image 800x345]
/knows how to deal with Chechen terrorist when things get HOT

They're actual heroes to you, aren't they?.. Can't see the strings?

I see the strings on most our politicians too. Maybe someday you will as well.


heh.. nicely done
 
2013-04-19 10:13:31 AM  

Theaetetus: JerseyTim: I think we found a motivation: Apparently, he went to Prom with Snooki.

[s3-ec.buzzfed.com image 625x838]
What a butterface. All beige and blocky.


I have found the explosive devices:

i.imgur.com
 
2013-04-19 10:13:41 AM  

spentmiles: Woah, I recognize this kid.  I wrestled against him in high school.  He had this one move called the Chechnyan Pretzel.  Basically, he'd come storming out, grab you by the legs and arms and twist you into a farking pretzel.  He looks small but must have had some extra chromosomes are some shiat, because he could open canned goods with his farking teeth.  Anyway, nobody could even come close to beating the son of a biatch.  And I had to wrestle him in the first round of our State tourney!

When the whistle blew, I came charging out and he came charging out.  Just like lightning, he grabbed and twisted me around.  I was upside down and turned around before I knew what hit me.  Then I saw it - dangling out of a singlet, a pair of hairy testicles!  Cheating be damned, I craned my neck and sunk my teeth into the farkers.  I pinned him half a second later.

Coach asked me how I won and I told him about the ball bite.  He asked, "You bit his nuts?"  And I had to admit, "No, they were mine!"


You are now OFF my ignore list......and favorited as grey, on probation.  Keep up the quality work.
 
2013-04-19 10:13:43 AM  

common sense is an oxymoron: Grand_Moff_Joseph: lol, scanner reporting that the K9 dogs are over hours, and need to go on break

Holy Crap, scanner just said the spent round they just found was a .40cal

They think it's from last night.


yep, likely from last night, but I really hope it's not the perps that had 40 cal ammo.
 
2013-04-19 10:13:46 AM  

Glenford: UNC_Samurai: Smgth: Mike Chewbacca: This thread(s) was better in the middle of the night when all the idiots were sleeping.

A million times THIS!

No one blabbing on and on about 'libs' and 'rightwing' and yadda yadda...

Why does this have to be political in ANY way?

Because the FARK admins and mods let the trolls overrun the Politics Tab over the course of the last few years.

Remember that brief period after a huge purge of trolls? That was awesome.



aaaah, the Great Blood Fart of 2012.
 
2013-04-19 10:13:48 AM  

FriarReb98: Wait, who was the farker who just said their dog had to go for a walk? Just heard on WCVB that someone tried to do that and got forced back in their house by the cops....


I said the police K9s have to be swapped. On duty for too long. Get it? Duty?
 
2013-04-19 10:14:01 AM  

NallTWD: FriarReb98: Wait, who was the farker who just said their dog had to go for a walk? Just heard on WCVB that someone tried to do that and got forced back in their house by the cops....

That would be a buddy of mine about an hour ago -.-


No shiat? Damn.
 
2013-04-19 10:14:04 AM  
I'm not sayin....I'm just sayin...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chechnya#Religion
 
2013-04-19 10:14:10 AM  

Silly Jesus: UNC_Samurai: Smgth: Mike Chewbacca: This thread(s) was better in the middle of the night when all the idiots were sleeping.

A million times THIS!

No one blabbing on and on about 'libs' and 'rightwing' and yadda yadda...

Why does this have to be political in ANY way?

Because the FARK admins and mods let the trolls overrun the Politics Tab over the course of the last few years.

Because in all of the previous threads Farkers were having a circle jerk fantasizing about it being a Tea Bagger on Tax Day.  Now that it's Islamists it's all "why bring up that it wasn't tea tards, man?"


Not in the last thread it wasn't. I know that's what you choose to believe, but that doesn't make it true. I've been watching this thing play out for almost 12 hours, and the previous thread wasn't talking about politics.
 
2013-04-19 10:14:13 AM  

ace in your face: jso2897: Molavian: jso2897: Dancin_In_Anson: Chechens eh?

Playing out like a Tom Clancy novel.

No. White, American citizens.Religion, if any, unknown.

Nah, it's known.  They're muslims.

So Chechnyan-born radical jihadists.

Maybe - maybe not. Fark has been wrong about everything else so far - so I won't be taking anybody here's word for one single thing.

He says his world view is Islam. Whether it has to do with his bombing intetions or not it isnt a made up hypothesis.


I have no knowledge that he "says" anything - they haven't caught him, and may not catch him alive. I remind you - Farkers have been wrong about EVERYTHING so far, and I will take your word for what it is worth - jack shiat.
 
2013-04-19 10:14:18 AM  

Theaetetus: JerseyTim: I think we found a motivation: Apparently, he went to Prom with Snooki.

[s3-ec.buzzfed.com image 625x838]
What a butterface. All beige and blocky.


She would be kind of cute if she learned to focus.
 
2013-04-19 10:14:25 AM  
So, this is what I wake up to.  Was wondering, actually hoping, that Boston PD would have caught both men.

And one of the suspects died?  Did he talk or confess before he died?

And Boston's on lockdown?  Damn, hell of a morning.
 
2013-04-19 10:14:30 AM  

ha-ha-guy: Shyla: A former teacher of his on TV now... "He was not even remotely capable of..... these things..... He was a lovely kid"

Yeah, well his shrapnel riddled corpse pretty much counters that argument.


He's talking about the one still alive. Not that it matters.
 
2013-04-19 10:14:35 AM  

iggyskuz: starbuckisagirl: I can't get the scanner links to work and CNN is so useless so I'm using this thread for updates.  Thanks, all.

try this

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ma-rt-9-window-cam


Thanks, this one works.   Although, I wonder if some of traffic is on a (secured?) channel.  It seems to have gotten quieter in the last few minutes.
 
2013-04-19 10:14:44 AM  

xmasbaby: mikebellman: Killing the suspects instead of capturing them really puts the Laughter in Slaughter. Don't let the American public have any answers, Johnny Law.

Would you recommend tranquilizer darts or sleeping gas?


Those big nets that you can shoot at people.
 
2013-04-19 10:15:02 AM  

ha-ha-guy: UNC_Samurai: Smgth: Mike Chewbacca: This thread(s) was better in the middle of the night when all the idiots were sleeping.

A million times THIS!

No one blabbing on and on about 'libs' and 'rightwing' and yadda yadda...

Why does this have to be political in ANY way?

Because the FARK admins and mods let the trolls overrun the Politics Tab over the course of the last few years.

Gotta feed that squirrel.


FARK first became really unbearable to me around the 2008 election.  Had to take a few months away, and then forgot my original password, so I had to make a new account (I go back to about 2003-ish, the Admiral Ackbar PS thread got me hooked; "It's a Map!" still rules).

This place used to be awesome.  Now, with the immediate breakdown of all events into predictable political arguments, the overzealous deletion of posts, and, worst of all, the reduction of BOOBIES threads, I'm only coming here out of habit.  I'm sure at some point I'll find something better.
 
2013-04-19 10:15:10 AM  
The amount of pure, unadulterated, ignorant speculation which MSNBC, CNN and others spew out on live TV under the guys of JAQing off is staggering.
 
2013-04-19 10:15:13 AM  
Suspects may be driving a gray, Honda CRV with Massachusetts plates 316 ES9. Connecticut police have been notified.
 
2013-04-19 10:15:40 AM  
that article is just...wow...holy crap
 
2013-04-19 10:15:46 AM  

Smgth: Silly Jesus: UNC_Samurai: Smgth: Mike Chewbacca: This thread(s) was better in the middle of the night when all the idiots were sleeping.

A million times THIS!

No one blabbing on and on about 'libs' and 'rightwing' and yadda yadda...

Why does this have to be political in ANY way?

Because the FARK admins and mods let the trolls overrun the Politics Tab over the course of the last few years.

Because in all of the previous threads Farkers were having a circle jerk fantasizing about it being a Tea Bagger on Tax Day.  Now that it's Islamists it's all "why bring up that it wasn't tea tards, man?"

Not in the last thread it wasn't. I know that's what you choose to believe, but that doesn't make it true. I've been watching this thing play out for almost 12 hours, and the previous thread wasn't talking about politics.


Nope, it was scanner feeds and twitter feeds and photos and google maps of everything going on. It was freaking awesome!
 
2013-04-19 10:15:59 AM  

jso2897: I have no knowledge that he "says" anything - they haven't caught him, and may not catch him alive. I remind you - Farkers have been wrong about EVERYTHING so far, and I will take your word for what it is worth - jack shiat.


At least half of us were right that they were white.
 
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