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(Bloomberg)   Boston bombing victim, who lost both of his legs, woke up from surgery, still heavily drugged, and helped identify one of the attackers   (bloomberg.com) divider line 31
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2013-04-19 12:48:05 AM
4 votes:

Gyrfalcon: When they catch these guys, they better hope it's the cops who catch them, and that some random citizen doesn't ID them first...because the cops will only beat them half to death. A vigilante squad will go 110% of the way.


I know, right?

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2013-04-18 11:52:15 PM
3 votes:
Glad to hear that photo #8 guy survived.
2013-04-18 11:39:41 PM
3 votes:
Wow... Good on him, looks like the video evidence is piling up against "suspect 2" as well. What a P.O.S.

I would, however, like to believe that if I noticed someone throw a bag down at my feet in a public place and walk away I would at least move to a new spot if not notify some sort of authority....

/also a 2 1/2 min timer... if only that nitwit got stuck holding onto that bag a bit longer...
2013-04-19 01:43:00 AM
2 votes:

Captain Dan: Ihaveanevilparrot: I'm very stout mentally. When I saw the pics of the guy I was angry and horrified, but I've seen pictures similar from war and such.

However, when I saw that's how his family found out what happened, by seeing the pics online, I wanted to cry...

Same here.  I've seen awful photos before, mostly from wars, but I know that most people have not, and as shocking as Photo #8 was for me, it's 100x worse for someone who wasn't as previously desensitized, and 100^100x worse for someone who knew this man.


I'm an anesthesia resident in a trauma center and I have never seen anything remotely as bad as that picture, fortunately. We do have conferences on trauma and rescucitation where battlefield surgeons and anesthesiologists come talk to us about how they handle these types of injuries, and those pictures are very similar to the Boston pics. Again though, never in real life.

I was shocked to learn that in afghanistan, forward medical units actually have the ultrasound equipment and supplies to put in nerve blocks in order to numb up involved nerves and decrease the chances of phantom limb pain or other chronic pain problems later on (as well as getting pain control immediately without the need for medications that could lower BP and respiration).

I looked at the photos and I'm absolutely shocked that a lot of those people didn't die. Sounds like there were two or three people on the scene FAST applying tourniquets, including cowboy hat dude and an ER doc that were among the crowd. I hope I never find myself in a situation like that, but if I do, I hope I do as good a job as they seem to have done, especially considering they had no way of knowing another bomb wasn't going to go off and take them out as well. Farking bravo, sirs.
2013-04-19 01:36:28 AM
2 votes:
The whole dropped bag thing from the article is a sign of the times.

People will ignore suspicious stuff even if you tell them to be on the lookout. This is due to one fact I have learned doing security.

They do not care. They actively focus on the moment at hand instead of things around them. It takes something to shock them into paying attention, an "Awakening".

Mine was getting robbed. I am way more observant and I considered myself pretty observant before. It is just now I have a reason to be on the lookout even more now. My brother is the same way now. After he got robbed a few years ago he picks up on a lot of things.

CSB Time

Just two weeks ago he noticed a guy following a woman way too closely as we were walking to the grocery store to do shopping. We completed our shopping, came out, and the SAME guy was again walking on the same side of the sidewalk following the woman at a distance. Both had come out of a local store carrying bags. Neither seemed to know one another, my brother pointed him out to me and I was like "Yea it is the same guy and he is following her."

I made a decision right then and there and told my brother, "If it comes down to it and he does not walk off a side street or she does not enter a house soon. I will follow him and report anything he does. Or if I have to maybe step in and possibly die."

My brother understands my stupidity as I call it. I do not believe in heroes, but I believe in people or persons giving a damn when you can do something. To break the cycle of "Not caring" or "Not my job" that is so damn pervasive in the world around me.

My bro said lets just keep walking along and hope she gets to her house before we get to ours.

Thankfully she entered a house and the guy kept walking. What confirmed he had been following her, besides his behavior, was when he crossed to our side of the street to keep walking. Something he could have did way before, like two blocks back, and just freaked me and my brother out even more for being right.

There is checking a woman out, and there is stalking. He was stalking and my brother totally zeroed in on it. I guess sometimes you need trauma to actually change how you act.

I bet you after this event a lot of people are going to be suspicious of dropped items. Except until they start not to care and then the cycle repeats. Lessons do not want to stick sometimes, even horrible ones.

/Tired of history repeating
//Never tired of seeing others helping others
///Lot of awesome people at the Marathon on Monday proving that
2013-04-19 12:59:18 AM
2 votes:

GungFu: Ok, what the heck is '#8 guy' and where can I see a list of numbered photos so I can be part of the conversation?


It's this photo, only not cropped. Just google "Jeff Bauman Jr" and it'll come up. IT IS NOT SAFE FOR WORK OR SANITY. Carlos Arredondo is the dude in the cowboy hat. He's literally holding Jeff's femoral artery shut.

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2013-04-19 12:53:21 AM
2 votes:
They'd better make sure his prosthetic legs are extra sturdy, so they can support his BALLS OF STEEL properly.  Wow.
2013-04-19 12:52:18 AM
2 votes:

Gyrfalcon: When they catch these guys, they better hope it's the cops who catch them, and that some random citizen doesn't ID them first...because the cops will only beat them half to death. A vigilante squad will go 110% of the way.


I wouldn't kill him. I'd keep him alive, physically unharmed, wishing he were dead, for the rest of his miserable farking life.

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2013-04-19 12:50:21 AM
2 votes:
I hope this guy pulls in more p*ssy than an '80s hair-metal band after this.

Then him & Cowboy Hat Man will travel the earth, find adventure, & right all the wrongs
2013-04-19 12:48:59 AM
2 votes:
So will this make Alex Jones finally stfu about this? Because I'm all for that.
2013-04-19 12:45:36 AM
2 votes:
When they catch these guys, they better hope it's the cops who catch them, and that some random citizen doesn't ID them first...because the cops will only beat them half to death. A vigilante squad will go 110% of the way.
2013-04-19 12:30:36 AM
2 votes:
That is amazing.  And heartbreaking.   His family saw #8  the same way we did :(
2013-04-19 01:53:21 AM
1 votes:
Of course there's no blood trail you acephalic idiots, he's GOT A TOURNIQUET ON!!!
2013-04-19 01:51:20 AM
1 votes:

Bluevirage: People will ignore suspicious stuff even if you tell them to be on the lookout. This is due to one fact I have learned doing security.

They do not care. They actively focus on the moment at hand instead of things around them. It takes something to shock them into paying attention, an "Awakening".


It's not that they don't care. It's that normal people don't go around paranoid that someone's trying to kill them all the time. Not every bag that's dropped or left somewhere contains a bomb. Joe Average Citizen doesn't see the world as one big terrorist target. Your "doing security" has given you a very narrow perception of things.
2013-04-19 01:49:24 AM
1 votes:
Oh gods damn it so much.

I just stumbled into a forum of nose-picking slobs and f*ckwits who think this is a psyop.

I'm gonna go beat my head on the wall.

/c'mere, wall, don'tcha be a pussy now and run away from me!!
2013-04-19 01:35:38 AM
1 votes:

Mentat: Shyla: Well it's on CNN right now...

Shiat, so much for that lead.


Come join the fun; your fellow FARKers have been following this from the beginning.
2013-04-19 01:17:55 AM
1 votes:
@BostonScanner 45m

CAMBRIDGEPORT: Carjack victim says two middle eastern males took his Mercedes at gunpoint, he got away and called 911.


@BostonScanner 36m

CAMBRIDGEPORT: (Update) Buy an expensive car, get expensive German tracking capabilities. Might have a signal to follow soon,


@BostonScanner 29m

CAMBRIDGEPORT: (Update) Carjackers pinned down in Watertown, exchanging fire with Watertown PD. Ran there from Cambridge.


@BostonScanner 23m

WATERTOWN: (Update) One suspect running, apparently ran over his partner. Ambulance requested, unexplored ordinance in the street. Chaos!


@BostonScanner 18m

WATERTOWN: (Update) There is at least one officer down and one suspect down at this point.


@BostonScanner 14m

WATERTOWN: (Update) Spruce & Lincoln, setting up a perimeter, looking for the suspect, unknown if still in the jacked Mercedes.


@BostonScanner 2m

WATERTOWN: (Update) Roads clogged with police vehicles, there is also the small matter of random bombs lying in the road.


@BostonScanner 1m

WATERTOWN: (Update) Boston SWAT moving through in a sweep, other elements searching around Spruce St.
2013-04-19 01:07:04 AM
1 votes:
Incredible.  I hope his testimony helps.

This guy is already famous, being the subject of one of this century's most iconic photographs (I'm making that call).  If he helps in apprehending the terrorist, he's going to be on a well-paid motivational speaker circuit for the rest of his life.
2013-04-19 01:07:04 AM
1 votes:

Bucky Katt: banandar123: So will this make Alex Jones finally stfu about this? Because I'm all for that.

There are still people who pay attention to that clown?


There are people who actually believe his crap!
2013-04-19 01:06:39 AM
1 votes:

Mike Chewbacca: GungFu: Ok, what the heck is '#8 guy' and where can I see a list of numbered photos so I can be part of the conversation?

It's this photo, only not cropped. Just google "Jeff Bauman Jr" and it'll come up. IT IS NOT SAFE FOR WORK OR SANITY. Carlos Arredondo is the dude in the cowboy hat. He's literally holding Jeff's femoral artery shut.


That cowboy is a stupendous badass.

I hope good things happen to him for the rest of his life.
2013-04-19 01:06:31 AM
1 votes:

desertgeek: Hotcheese: Wow... Good on him, looks like the video evidence is piling up against "suspect 2" as well. What a P.O.S.

I would, however, like to believe that if I noticed someone throw a bag down at my feet in a public place and walk away I would at least move to a new spot if not notify some sort of authority....

/also a 2 1/2 min timer... if only that nitwit got stuck holding onto that bag a bit longer...

Yeah, if I saw something like that, I'd at least say "hey, you dropped your bag" and when I saw the guy running for it, start clearing everything and everyone out while (possibly) trying to throw the bag at the coward.

Rule of thumb: pay attention to abandoned items and randomly dropped packages.


I take it you've never been to a race. Why would anyone be paying much attention to other spectators instead of watching and cheering for the ridiculously fast runners crossing the finish line?

Moreover, discarded clothing and other items are pretty common at races (or at least all big-ish ones I've been to). Granted, a backpack is a bit unusual for someone to just leave at a race, but not so noteworthy that it should or likely would set off anyone's alarm bells. It wouldn't've set off mine, at least. Certainly not enough to be like "Holy crap, I think that's a bomb--I need to get out of here ASAP!"

/just isn't something that typically happens in the US
//Pakistan, India, and Iraq all had seriously FUBAR bombings this week, too
///doubting I would have noticed anything strange about their bombers, either
////before it was too late, at least.
2013-04-19 01:05:23 AM
1 votes:

gadian: As much as I want the bad guy's nailed, this eye witness stuff will go absolutely nowhere if the accused has a decent attorney. Eye witness testimony sucks in the most ideal circumstances.  Now add explosions, loss of limbs, consciousness, and blood and add in drugs and coma.


Agreed, but a legless guy testifying in front of a jury could finger zombie Marlon Brando as the culprit, and people would be ready to lynch his corpse.
2013-04-19 01:04:46 AM
1 votes:

Bucky Katt: banandar123: So will this make Alex Jones finally stfu about this? Because I'm all for that.

There are still people who pay attention to that clown?


Dude you won't even believe this, but his videos about Boston have gotten like 200k+ views in this 4 day period...Lots of crazy in this country.
2013-04-19 01:02:08 AM
1 votes:
Left side of image is mr white hat on backwards. Running from the second blast me thinks.

http://i.imgur.com/I1dF69f.jpg
2013-04-19 01:01:27 AM
1 votes:
As much as I want the bad guy's nailed, this eye witness stuff will go absolutely nowhere if the accused has a decent attorney. Eye witness testimony sucks in the most ideal circumstances.  Now add explosions, loss of limbs, consciousness, and blood and add in drugs and coma.
2013-04-19 12:58:43 AM
1 votes:

GungFu: Ok, what the heck is '#8 guy' and where can I see a list of numbered photos so I can be part of the conversation?


It stemmed from an original slideshow from the attack. He was picture #8. His name is Jeff Bauman Jr. His dad's been updating his status on Facebook.
2013-04-19 12:57:10 AM
1 votes:

Speaker2Animals: banandar123: So will this make Alex Jones finally stfu about this? Because I'm all for that.

The only thing that will make him STFU will be him passing from this mortal coil. Then he'll be Satan's problem.


If only that were true. No matter how Jones kicks the bucket, his fan club will assume foul play and he'll become a martyr.

You'll be hearing from him long after he's gone.
2013-04-19 12:54:41 AM
1 votes:

BalugaJoe: Where is the proof?


Proof? You're given the most reliable proof there is - which any LEO will tell you is eyewitness testimony - from a guy who just got his legs blown off and woke up from a drug-induced coma! What more proof could you want? Get a rope!
2013-04-19 12:52:33 AM
1 votes:

raerae1980: That is amazing.  And heartbreaking.   His family saw #8  the same way we did :(


I can't even imagine how awful that would be.
2013-04-19 12:51:01 AM
1 votes:

Gyrfalcon: and that some random citizen doesn't ID them first


The internet believes it is now Sunil

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2013-04-19 12:48:12 AM
1 votes:
Karma, dude.

You blow off someone's legs, they see to it that you end up being locked away for life or executed.

Seems fair to me.
 
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