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(Opposing Views)   "I think a sexual predator lives there" "What makes you say that?" "Well, for one thing: the sign by the front door that says so"   (opposingviews.com) divider line 135
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2013-04-18 08:27:45 PM  
content8.flixster.com
Not amused.
 
2013-04-18 08:31:04 PM  
I am unsure how to feel about this.

I am stumped
 
2013-04-18 08:45:50 PM  
As my NRA friends will wholeheartedly agree, lists and registries are tyranny.
 
2013-04-18 08:52:59 PM  

Thelyphthoric: [content8.flixster.com image 280x250]
Not amused.


8 year olds dude.
 
2013-04-18 08:55:37 PM  
"Some have worried that the road signs might result in neighbors harassing the sex offenders, but police don't believe that will happen."

There are some righteous SOBs in Florida, aren't there?
 
2013-04-18 08:59:29 PM  
What's a pederast, Walter?
 
2013-04-18 09:05:07 PM  
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2013-04-18 09:06:28 PM  

Aarontology: As my NRA friends will wholeheartedly agree, lists and registries are tyranny.


One list is a list of those convicted of a crime
The other is a list of those who exercise their rights

Just sayin'
 
2013-04-18 09:07:13 PM  
If you think they're still that farking dangerous, don't let them out of jail in the first place.
 
2013-04-18 09:07:16 PM  
And the hysteria rolls on.
 
2013-04-18 09:07:49 PM  
8-year-olds dude.
 
2013-04-18 09:08:12 PM  
Can I get one of those?  The neighbor kids are annoying as hell.
 
2013-04-18 09:08:26 PM  
Oops. Someone beat me to it.
 
2013-04-18 09:08:31 PM  
Good luck with your property values there.
 
2013-04-18 09:09:07 PM  
I've got one outside my door.  It says I'm a Goddamn sexual Tyrannosaurus.
 
2013-04-18 09:10:02 PM  
Don't do the crime if you can't do the sign.
 
2013-04-18 09:11:05 PM  
This is a tough one. Do they ACTUALLY mean "sexual predator", or are they just misusing the term, like "viral" and "troll"? If these are actual sexual predators, as in repeat offenders, or the stalker/rapist type, or this going in the yard of every dude who got caught whizzing on a dumpster at 5 am?

These people have served their sentence, so they are supposed to be done, but if they ARE the repeat offender type, then this could prevent future issues.

In other words, these sexual offender lists are bad because they create so many conflicting issues, and have so much of a gray area, that minor offenders sometimes get treated like serial rapists...
 
2013-04-18 09:12:17 PM  
Hee. I'd make a few up for the people I don't like and see if their houses get burned down. That would be funny and stuff.
 
2013-04-18 09:13:32 PM  

Aarontology: As my NRA friends will wholeheartedly agree, lists and registries are tyranny.


Not a gun owner and believe their should be a registry of owners, but to compare the two is ludicrous.  These people chose to commit crimes, so they lost a right.  I don't weep for them in the least.
 
2013-04-18 09:14:19 PM  

Aarontology: As my NRA friends will wholeheartedly agree, lists and registries are tyranny.


In all seriousness, I agree with that too.  The idea of punishing a convicted person beyond the term of their sentence is pretty abhorrent to anyone that places even the slightest value on the rights granted in the constitution, it's a pretty clear violation of the 4th amendment that's being let slide because it victimizes an unpopular group.

I have no objection to convictions being public record, but that should only be if people actually look it up, the equivalent of tattooing permanent serial numbers onto people or whatever is well into fascism territory.
 
2013-04-18 09:15:55 PM  
Sheriff Gordon Smith said it hopefully will ward off children

Who are these children that need warding off? Are there just gangs of youths wandering around into other people's private property? Wtf?
 
2013-04-18 09:16:30 PM  
Some have worried that the road signs might result in neighbors harassing the sex offenders, but police don't believe that will happen. "We don't expect that to happen, and if it does, we will do everything in our power to protect the person's rights," Capt. Smith said.

Right... Of course you will... Captain Smith.
 
2013-04-18 09:16:33 PM  

srhp29: Not a gun owner and believe theirthere should be a registry of owners, but to compare the two is ludicrous.  These people chose to commit crimes, so they lost a right.  I don't weep for them in the least.


Dang. I am embarrassed.
 
2013-04-18 09:16:42 PM  

MrHappyRotter: I've got one outside my door.  It says I'm a Goddamn sexual Tyrannosaurus.


Yeah, strap this in your sore ass, Blain.
 
2013-04-18 09:17:42 PM  

cman: Just sayin'


srhp29: Not a gun owner and believe their should be a registry of owners, but to compare the two is ludicrous. These people chose to commit crimes, so they lost a right. I don't weep for them in the least.


If they're that dangerous, they don't belong out of prison. Allowing them to be free is incredibly irresponsible. The list is just placating people to try and get them to overlook that fact.

They've either done their time and should reintegrate into society, or they're dangerous and should be kept behind bars.
 
2013-04-18 09:18:12 PM  

Jim_Callahan: The idea of punishing a convicted person beyond the term of their sentence is pretty abhorrent to anyone that places even the slightest value on the rights granted in the constitution


You realize it is actually PART of their sentence right?  Not pushing past it.  It is just part of it.

What I don't get is why murderers who get out don't have to register.  What, committing a sexual crime is somehow more serious than killing someone?

Sorry, if you commit a serious crime, you deserve to lose every right/liberty you lose.
 
2013-04-18 09:19:04 PM  
A $10 road sign is a find.  These guys should contract all over the county, for every kind of road sign.
 
2013-04-18 09:19:22 PM  

Jim_Callahan: In all seriousness, I agree with that too. The idea of punishing a convicted person beyond the term of their sentence is pretty abhorrent to anyone that places even the slightest value on the rights granted in the constitution, it's a pretty clear violation of the 4th amendment that's being let slide because it victimizes an unpopular group.


Exactly.
 
2013-04-18 09:20:31 PM  

MrHappyRotter: I've got one outside my door.  It says I'm a Goddamn sexual Tyrannosaurus.


blogs.detroitnews.com
 
2013-04-18 09:21:18 PM  

Aarontology: cman: Just sayin'

srhp29: Not a gun owner and believe their should be a registry of owners, but to compare the two is ludicrous. These people chose to commit crimes, so they lost a right. I don't weep for them in the least.

If they're that dangerous, they don't belong out of prison. Allowing them to be free is incredibly irresponsible. The list is just placating people to try and get them to overlook that fact.

They've either done their time and should reintegrate into society, or they're dangerous and should be kept behind bars.


I understand your problem.

If I had my way sexual crimes would be life imprisonment. Alas, there are those who frown upon that. Since only the most severe cases of sexual crimes are lifetime imprisonment worthy in society, I think the registry might be a good compromise. I really dont know.
 
2013-04-18 09:21:30 PM  

srhp29: Sorry, if you commit a serious crime, you deserve to lose every right/liberty you lose.


I'm sorry, but I don't think the state should have the power to flat out revoke rights because the target is unpopular.
 
2013-04-18 09:21:45 PM  
i want one of those signs too i'm a predator

fuuka.warosu.org
 
2013-04-18 09:23:08 PM  

Kaenneth: Good luck with your property values there.


Several years ago some charity or something bought a house in my development and turned it into a group home for recovering drug addicts and alcoholics.  The first 3 residents were ALL registered moderate risk sex offenders and subsequent residents were also registered offenders.   There are currently at least 4 houses for sale within 500 feet of the pervy drunk house, and none have sold within the last 6-9 months.  Usually houses sell quickly in my family oriented development because of location, but not these, nor mine should I need to sell. One of the "recovering" residents frequently walks past my house on his way to and from the liquor store.
 
2013-04-18 09:23:23 PM  
This whole sexual predator thing is going too far.  If these offenses are capital then kill them.  It's better to execute someone as a child molester then to release them back into society but restrict their basic rights to live.  Society needs to grow a pair.
 
2013-04-18 09:24:00 PM  

cman: I understand your problem.

If I had my way sexual crimes would be life imprisonment. Alas, there are those who frown upon that. Since only the most severe cases of sexual crimes are lifetime imprisonment worthy in society, I think the registry might be a good compromise. I really dont know.


It really is just feel good legislation. The majority of people who commit these crimes attack family members or people known to them. The list is just saying "We'll know who they are so we can catch them the next time" instead of making sure there isn't a next time
 
2013-04-18 09:24:54 PM  

bestie1: This whole sexual predator thing is going too far.  If these offenses are capital then kill them.  It's better to execute someone as a child molester then to release them back into society but restrict their basic rights to live.  Society needs to grow a pair.


sometimes the urge to have sex is just too much..  it happens to everyone at times

sometimes you just HAVE to rape someone
 
2013-04-18 09:26:53 PM  

Jon iz teh kewl: bestie1: This whole sexual predator thing is going too far.  If these offenses are capital then kill them.  It's better to execute someone as a child molester then to release them back into society but restrict their basic rights to live.  Society needs to grow a pair.

sometimes the urge to have sex is just too much..  it happens to everyone at times

sometimes you just HAVE to rape someone


THIS! If rape was legal, then no one would go to jail for being raped.
 
2013-04-18 09:28:22 PM  
Jeez, Florida! Why not provide an additional sign with the proper mixing and throwing of Molotovs while you're at it there.
 
2013-04-18 09:29:05 PM  
And he looks pretty darn proud of his sign too!
 
2013-04-18 09:29:21 PM  
http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/PredatorDefinition.jsp 

While I'd generally be against this sort of thing, looking up the F.S. 775.21 on the sign does suggest that the definition for Sexual Predator is much more restrictive than the usual sex offender lists.
 
2013-04-18 09:29:48 PM  

srhp29: Jim_Callahan: The idea of punishing a convicted person beyond the term of their sentence is pretty abhorrent to anyone that places even the slightest value on the rights granted in the constitution

You realize it is actually PART of their sentence right?  Not pushing past it.  It is just part of it.

What I don't get is why murderers who get out don't have to register.  What, committing a sexual crime is somehow more serious than killing someone?

Sorry, if you commit a serious crime, you deserve to lose every right/liberty you lose.


Yeah! Fark these guys! Why should we let them become productive citizens again? Let's ostracize them to the point that they no other choice than to be a drain on the system! USA! USA! USA!
 
2013-04-18 09:30:01 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Jon iz teh kewl: bestie1: This whole sexual predator thing is going too far.  If these offenses are capital then kill them.  It's better to execute someone as a child molester then to release them back into society but restrict their basic rights to live.  Society needs to grow a pair.

sometimes the urge to have sex is just too much..  it happens to everyone at times

sometimes you just HAVE to rape someone

THIS! If rape was legal, then no one would go to jail for being raped.


rape is a misdemeanor
 
2013-04-18 09:30:27 PM  
Some have worried that the road signs might result in neighbors harassing the sex offenders, but police don't believe that will happen.

So what's the point? If I can't harass the guy, why tell me? Am I supposed to just move away? Am I supposed to just give him dirty looks until he leave? Am I supposed to tell my children to be afraid? How is this knowledge supposed to affect my life? Is the guy a real threat? If so, why is he not in prison?
 
2013-04-18 09:31:06 PM  
This is ridiculous.  If you've served your time, you've served your time, marginalizing someone further at that point prevents any chance of them becoming a responsible and productive member of society.

If we're going to have a sex offender registry and post signs out front, why not do it for all felons?  I'd rather live next door to a child molester than a convicted burglar, arsonist, or murderer (of course, since I don't have any kids, I don't really have anything to fear from a child molester, if I did maybe I'd feel differently).  Why not post signs in front of the homes of tax evaders and insurance fraudsters?  Their crimes actually effect society as a whole, maybe they need a bit of shaming.
 
2013-04-18 09:31:11 PM  

Thelyphthoric: [content8.flixster.com image 280x250]
Not amused.


Came for this post. Leaving satisfied it was the boobies.
 
2013-04-18 09:32:00 PM  
www.rankopedia.com
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2013-04-18 09:32:01 PM  
Perhaps we should have signs up marking the homes of murderers.  That'd be smart.

Oh yeah and people in general who've committed violent crimes.

What the hell, why not add larceny too.  People should have a right to know whether or not they can trust their neighbor with their lawnmower.

Shoot, let's just go ahead and post up a list of peoples' crimes on mandatory signs at every house.  That way we can all shame each other properly.
 
2013-04-18 09:33:17 PM  

seanpg71: While I'd generally be against this sort of thing, looking up the F.S. 775.21 on the sign does suggest that the definition for Sexual Predator is much more restrictive than the usual sex offender lists.


I agree with you there, and there is a huge difference between this and labeling the guy who got caught with his pants down pissing outside a bar.

I just still don't understand how we expect these people to safely and productively rejoin society if we keep making it harder for them to live their lives. Put them in jail if they belong there. If they don't, give them a fair shot at earning a living and becoming a productive member of society.
 
2013-04-18 09:33:19 PM  
This sign should come in handy on Halloween
 
2013-04-18 09:33:34 PM  
Goodbye Eighth Amendment to the United States Constitution
 
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