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2013-04-18 10:31:39 PM  
Stepson has some Japanese performance car - Mitsubishi I think - that was built with right hand drive.  He will neither confirm nor deny that he has been driving around with the passenger (in the "drivers" seat) flailing around a spare steering wheel.

/I know he has, I gave him the idea.
//Yes, I stole the idea from Monty Python
 
2013-04-18 10:32:22 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: When I'm out driving and it's a straight stretch of road and nobody is around, I'll close my eyes and see how far I can go before freaking out. I've got up to around 20 seconds.


Try for a full minute, foot on accelerator.
 
2013-04-18 10:37:26 PM  

CtrlAltDestroy: Growing up I never did anything stupidly dangerous like that and no one that I associated with did either. Those are the actions of idiots, not of youth. Idiocy knows no age restrictions.


Yep.  And I hung out with some pretty crazy skate punks for a while.  They got hurt, but it was stuff like falling onto concrete or getting cut on a nail.  Most of the time it wasn't even a hospital visit.  Even some of the stuff I did, which was real dumb, worst case it would have been a broken or dislocated limb, not me turning instantly into a bag of no-longer-vital organs.

But I guess that means we lived dull, mundane lives because we didn't traffic surf.
 
2013-04-18 10:37:42 PM  
I had an old wreck that you could steer with the gas pedal. It pulled slightly to the right when accelerating and slightly to the left if you took your foot off the gas.
 
2013-04-18 10:39:07 PM  

Skyd1v: Stepson has some Japanese performance car - Mitsubishi I think - that was built with right hand drive.  He will neither confirm nor deny that he has been driving around with the passenger (in the "drivers" seat) flailing around a spare steering wheel.

/I know he has, I gave him the idea.
//Yes, I stole the idea from Monty Python


OK, that's funny. Especially because nobody is actually being endangered.

The stuff in TFA, that's farking stupid.
 
2013-04-18 10:42:06 PM  

colithian: Ghost riding at least seems cool in theory. Every kid is curious about it because they see it in action movies. It's just the most of them are smart enough not to try it. Driving without a steering wheel? How the fark do you come to the conclusion that that would be "cool"? Isn't the whole reason driving is fun is the fact that you have control over something big and dangerous? Why would you want to intentionally GET RID of that control?


To demonstrate how wheel your wheels are aligned?
 
2013-04-18 10:43:28 PM  
You can have fun with fake steering wheels also.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMpO92hSbFA
 
JVD
2013-04-18 10:45:05 PM  
Just let Darwin do his work.
 
2013-04-18 10:47:47 PM  
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ghost+ride+the+whip

This is not what I imagine when I read the words "ghost ride", this is so jolly I feel like it's taking the Ghost Rider's name in vain.
 
2013-04-18 10:54:28 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: When I'm out driving and it's a straight stretch of road and nobody is around, I'll close my eyes and see how far I can go before freaking out. I've got up to around 20 seconds.


Darwinism.  How does it work?
 
2013-04-18 10:55:43 PM  
People that treat the roads like a farking playground and deliberately do things like this should have their drivers licenses permanently revoked. This isn't an accident or a mistake this is willful disregard for safety and proof that the person/people involved can not handle the privilege of driving. This is sociopathic behavior.
 
2013-04-18 10:57:08 PM  
Of course that piece of shiat is a Civic. And of course that dude driving that riced out piece of shiat Civic has some Latin "influence."
 
2013-04-18 11:01:04 PM  

FormlessOne: snailbarf: "ghost riding is stupid" - guy who never, ever stupid but fun things in his youth

"Stupid but fun things in his youth" = "throwing eggs at a house." Not "killing a family of four in a head-on collision" or "taking a curve at 70 mph and killing three passengers."


Under 'stupid but fun'...
how about "Sowing a meticulously, lovingly, obsessively maintained dichondra lawn with radish and/or dandelion seeds"?

OK, you can add 'slightly evil' to 'stupid but fun'
 
2013-04-18 11:08:16 PM  

dforkus: So a detachable steering wheel as a theft deterent? I guess, but if you want it badly enough bring along some vice grips


Yeah, I don't quite get that, particularly if someone just wants to steal the car to chop it.  Just tow the thing away.
 
2013-04-18 11:10:14 PM  
I'll bet none of these guys can jump over a Mustang doing fifty.
 
2013-04-18 11:13:00 PM  

Skyd1v: Stepson has some Japanese performance car - Mitsubishi I think - that was built with right hand drive.  He will neither confirm nor deny that he has been driving around with the passenger (in the "drivers" seat) flailing around a spare steering wheel.


Also fun with an old postal Jeep and a Mastiff in the right-hand seat.
 
2013-04-18 11:19:47 PM  

Fart_Machine: I was hoping for a video of some guy driving by and pulling the wheel out of his hand.


That is exactly what I am going to have my passenger in my car do.
 
2013-04-18 11:20:37 PM  

ChicagoKev: Skyd1v: Stepson has some Japanese performance car - Mitsubishi I think - that was built with right hand drive.  He will neither confirm nor deny that he has been driving around with the passenger (in the "drivers" seat) flailing around a spare steering wheel.

Also fun with an old postal Jeep and a Mastiff in the right-hand seat.


Substitute Labrador for Mastiff and I'd swear you were my neighbor.
 
2013-04-18 11:51:48 PM  
The important thing is that we never seem to run out of idiots.
 
2013-04-18 11:55:04 PM  
Well, if you have an old jalopy with a bad alignment that pulls right and some old drum brakes that pull left you can do just fine as long as you drive with both feet.

I don't suspect that's the case.

/I hate adjusting front drums.
//Gotta get a disc conversion one day
 
2013-04-18 11:59:43 PM  

titwrench: People that treat the roads like a farking playground and deliberately do things like this should have their drivers licenses permanently revoked. This isn't an accident or a mistake this is willful disregard for safety and proof that the person/people involved can not handle the privilege of driving. This is sociopathic behavior.


This.

Who the Fark takes off what controls the car and waves it around? It's like removing the brake pedal for crying out loud! *pulls hair out*

When I was young and stupid, I split lanes on my motorcycle on the freeway. Some guy actually tried to take me out by OPENING HIS DOOR in bumper to bumper traffic- stopped riding soon after that and swapped my two wheeled death machine for a peppy two door manual instead. But I never pulled anything this farking retarded.

/though I did drive a civic for a couple years. Wasn't my choice though, family hand me down.
 
2013-04-19 12:17:50 AM  

titwrench: People that treat the roads like a farking playground and deliberately do things like this should have their drivers licenses permanently revoked. This isn't an accident or a mistake this is willful disregard for safety and proof that the person/people involved can not handle the privilege of driving. This is sociopathic behavior.


Do you think that the presence or absence of a driver's license would make a difference to somebody with this mindset?
 
2013-04-19 12:21:06 AM  
The thing is, no road is perfectly smooth or perfectly flat or perfectly straight.

Nannystate-like typing detected
 
2013-04-19 12:22:01 AM  

kiwimoogle84: When I was young and stupid, I split lanes on my motorcycle on the freeway. Some guy actually tried to take me out by OPENING HIS DOOR in bumper to bumper traffic


Two things: 1. That practice is legal is some places because it doesn't add any congestion and in fact helps clear the roads for cars. 2. You shouldn't be going fast enough while splitting lanes to be "taken out" by a door.

/3. the shoulder's better than splitting anyway
//4. more people die in cars each year than motorcycles
///5. I guess I never was good at shutting up, you get 3 free bonus things.
 
2013-04-19 12:22:07 AM  

over_and_done: titwrench: People that treat the roads like a farking playground and deliberately do things like this should have their drivers licenses permanently revoked. This isn't an accident or a mistake this is willful disregard for safety and proof that the person/people involved can not handle the privilege of driving. This is sociopathic behavior.

Do you think that the presence or absence of a driver's license would make a difference to somebody with this mindset?


Yes, it does. Some people drive without a license, sure. But many people who lose their licenses stop driving due to the penalties incurred when caught driving without one. This is why we have licenses. This is why we have murder laws. It does have a measurable effect on the number of people committing offenses.
 
2013-04-19 12:24:39 AM  

untaken_name: //4. more people die in cars each year than motorcycles


Well that's a dumb thing to say. From:  http://trafficsafety.org/safety/sharing/motorcycle/motor-facts/motor- i njuries-fatalities

Motorcycles are the most dangerous type of motor vehicle to drive.  These vehicles are involved in fatal crashes at a rate of 35.0 per 100 million miles of travel, compared with a rate of 1.7 per 100 million miles of travel for passenger cars.Motorcyclists were 35 times more likely than passenger car occupants to die in a crash in 2006, per vehicle mile traveled, and 8 times more likely to be injured.Although motorcycles account for only 2% of vehicles on the road, they make up more than 10% of all crashes
 
2013-04-19 12:27:10 AM  

howdoibegin: Well that's a dumb thing to say.


So it's not true, then? Also,

i1.ytimg.com
 
2013-04-19 12:33:08 AM  

Psycoholic_Slag: Seems like a self correcting problem.



temeez.com
 
2013-04-19 12:37:59 AM  
Video of some guys who removed their steering wheel and used an iPhone App to drive a car.  (iPhones have accelerometers, y'know.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_x5IziyOcAg

Skip to 1:00 if you're not an engineer.
 
2013-04-19 12:46:34 AM  

howdoibegin: untaken_name: //4. more people die in cars each year than motorcycles

Well that's a dumb thing to say. From:  http://trafficsafety.org/safety/sharing/motorcycle/motor-facts/motor- i njuries-fatalities

Motorcycles are the most dangerous type of motor vehicle to drive.  These vehicles are involved in fatal crashes at a rate of 35.0 per 100 million miles of travel, compared with a rate of 1.7 per 100 million miles of travel for passenger cars.Motorcyclists were 35 times more likely than passenger car occupants to die in a crash in 2006, per vehicle mile traveled, and 8 times more likely to be injured.Although motorcycles account for only 2% of vehicles on the road, they make up more than 10% of all crashes


You realize that the vast majority of two-vehicle accidents involving a motorcycle and a non-motorcycle aren't the fault of the motorcyclist, right?
 
2013-04-19 12:48:58 AM  

ciberido: howdoibegin: untaken_name: //4. more people die in cars each year than motorcycles

Well that's a dumb thing to say. From:  http://trafficsafety.org/safety/sharing/motorcycle/motor-facts/motor- i njuries-fatalities

Motorcycles are the most dangerous type of motor vehicle to drive.  These vehicles are involved in fatal crashes at a rate of 35.0 per 100 million miles of travel, compared with a rate of 1.7 per 100 million miles of travel for passenger cars.Motorcyclists were 35 times more likely than passenger car occupants to die in a crash in 2006, per vehicle mile traveled, and 8 times more likely to be injured.Although motorcycles account for only 2% of vehicles on the road, they make up more than 10% of all crashes

You realize that the vast majority of two-vehicle accidents involving a motorcycle and a non-motorcycle aren't the fault of the motorcyclist, right?


Unfortunately for we motorcyclists, moral victories don't repair broken bones or blood vessels.
 
2013-04-19 01:10:50 AM  
My grandfather used to tell the tale of the time he did this fifty years ago.

My grandmother was a bit of a backseat driver, and one day to make a point he took the nut off the steering wheel shaft and put the cover back on. When she inevitably started nagging him about his driving he pulled off the steering wheel, handed it to her, and told her to drive.

They promptly went off the road, but he was going slow with no other cars in sight.
 
2013-04-19 02:13:08 AM  

CtrlAltDestroy: snailbarf:something like that...

just pointing out that most of you were young and stupid once too, except those who came into this world with full-on male pattern baldness, late for a sales call.

The only people that I've ever seen claim that it's normal for every teenager/young person to do really stupid shiat are people who are stupid adults. In my experience, people who claim that are projecting.

Not every young person is a dangerous, thoughtless, idiot. You just don't notice the sane ones because they're not the ones on your lawn.

snailbarf: what about guys skitching rides on the back of cars? bumper surfing? going from car to car while in motion on a two lane road? kids been doing that stuff for like 50+ years...the only difference between the stupid fun now and then is that technology has evolved. the idiots are the same.

Growing up I never did anything stupidly dangerous like that and no one that I associated with did either. Those are the actions of idiots, not of youth. Idiocy knows no age restrictions.


Being a daredevil or taking big risks isn't exclusive to smart or dumb people; I think that can be it's own character trait. If you can't relate to a young person who is not yet wise, maybe you never were one.
 
2013-04-19 02:40:04 AM  
Wow, I thought this was going to be about something odd, like my grandfather, who would occasionally drive a vehicle that had no steering wheel. But he'd attach a pair of vice grips to the steering column so he still had control for the most part. This is just idiotic.

/my grandfather would also drive vehicles with no clutch, no brakes, no seats, etc etc.
//He would buy junked or totaled vehicles, take them back to his shop, rebuild them and sell them for a profit.
 
2013-04-19 08:09:13 AM  

snailbarf: Being a daredevil or taking big risks isn't exclusive to smart or dumb people; I think that can be it's own character trait. If you can't relate to a young person who is not yet wise, maybe you never were one.


Wait, maybe I was never a what, now? A young person? Or an unwise person?

Calculated risks are the mark of an intelligent person. Needless, high danger risks are the mark of an unintelligent person. It doesn't take much wisdom to know the difference between the two.

It sounds like you're using youth as an excuse for making "unwise" decisions. If you think that you need to have 2-3 decades in before you're able to realize that things like "bumper surfing" and "going from car to car while in motion on a two lane road" are really really bad ideas then I'm thinking that you might still be in that acquiring wisdom stage. Even a preteen can know that physics are a cruel mistress and not something to tempt.

But I'll say this again. In my experience the only people who claim that it's normal for all young people to be idiots are, themselves, idiotic adults.
 
2013-04-19 08:46:24 AM  
Ok, there's too many of you to respond to everything by quoting it.

Untaken_Name, it's only legal to split lanes if traffic is going under 5mph. It's in the motorcycle handbook. And I'd do it at like 30mph, so yes, a door would have sent me flying.

Also, yes, there are more car accidents than motorcycle accidents, but not a higher percentage. For every one motorcycle rider, there's 150 autos. So if 5 of 100 motorcycles will be involved in a wreck, 1 of 300 autos will be in a wreck. It may add up to the same amount of PEOPLE, but motorcycles will have a higher percentage.

And Ciberido, that fact is the reason I stopped riding. My first husband was taken out by a semi truck who crossed right of way. Cops love to blame motorcycle riders for their own death, like it's our fault we don't have seatbelts- but in reality it's almost never our fault. Somehow the cops were able to blame my late husband for his own death and I was left with nothing but a bill, so that's when I stopped riding.
 
2013-04-19 08:48:40 AM  

SpinStopper: If you see this and are/have a passenger, it would be hilarious to take the steering wheel away from them, then leisurely turn down a side street away from them ;)


Jebus Christ, now I can't stop farking laughing. I am picturing pulling up next to this guy, giving him the 'sup nod, and then reaching out the passenger window and snatching the steering wheel out of his hand (whilst saying 'yoink!'), and just laughing at the combined look of shock, disbelief, and 'what do I do now?" on his face.

CSB:
Dad used to run with a motorcycle gang in his younger days. Apparently a friend of his had pissed someone off, so they removed the lugs from the front wheel of his bike. Dude pops a wheelie and the front tire goes zipping down the road. He is now riding with just his forks in the air, which will not make for a  gentle landing. He looks over at my dad with the look I discribed above. My dad's like "I dunno, what do you expect me to do about it?" So the guy had to make for the shoulder and hope for a soft landing. He got a rib first into a telephone pole landing instead.
 
2013-04-19 09:02:27 AM  
Attention kids,
'Wheelin' out da window' is so last season. The new thing is "Inverted free-ballin' on da hood" Please stop Wheelin' out da window and start doing this instead
static.gamesradar.com

It's fun, and the only person you can hurt is yourself. Plus as a teenager, you're invulnerable anyway.

/Saints Row 4 baby!
 
2013-04-19 09:11:07 AM  
MythDragon:
CSB:
Dad used to run with a motorcycle gang in his younger days. Apparently a friend of his had pissed someone off, so they removed the lugs from the front wheel of his bike. Dude pops a wheelie and the front tire goes zipping down the road. He is now riding with just his forks in the air, which will not make for a  gentle landing. He looks over at my dad with the look I discribed above. My dad's like "I dunno, what do you expect me to do about it?" So the guy had to make for the shoulder and hope for a soft landing. He got a rib first into a telephone pole landing instead.


Dude- ow. I rode street bikes for several years but I never popped wheelies. I just always had this image in my head of popping one and losing balance and toppling over sideways, crushing my leg.

Funny to imagine the look on his face though like you said.
 
2013-04-19 09:30:45 AM  
Now I really want to buy an RHD car and give my passenger a steering wheel to hang out of the window... While we go around corners.
 
2013-04-19 09:53:08 AM  

kiwimoogle84: Untaken_Name, it's only legal to split lanes if traffic is going under 5mph. It's in the motorcycle handbook. And I'd do it at like 30mph, so yes, a door would have sent me flying.


Thank you for confirming that you were doing it wrong. ;) Also, depending upon whether you're in Nebraska, California, or Utah, the laws are slightly different. If you're in any other state, there's probably a law against it. Although my state was considering making it legal, they haven't yet. The bills keep being defeated by morons who don't understand them, or who are afraid the public won't understand them. At least we got rid of the helmet law, so that people whose heads aren't worth protecting don't have to protect them.
 
2013-04-19 10:17:58 AM  
relevant
art.penny-arcade.com
 
2013-04-19 12:17:22 PM  
When I was 12 or so, I thought I was getting good at riding my bicycle with no hands on the handlebar.  So, the tortured genius that I am, I decided to try taking the handlebar completely off.  I walked the bike to the top of the hill in front of my house and quickly learned two things:
1) It's difficult to get going without hands on the bar.
2) The mass of the handlebar adds stability and makes it a lot easier to ride without holding it.

I crashed hard three times but managed to get down the hill on the fourth try.

/no longer a tortured genius
//still tortured though
 
2013-04-19 01:46:39 PM  

untaken_name: kiwimoogle84: Untaken_Name, it's only legal to split lanes if traffic is going under 5mph. It's in the motorcycle handbook. And I'd do it at like 30mph, so yes, a door would have sent me flying.

Thank you for confirming that you were doing it wrong. ;) Also, depending upon whether you're in Nebraska, California, or Utah, the laws are slightly different. If you're in any other state, there's probably a law against it. Although my state was considering making it legal, they haven't yet. The bills keep being defeated by morons who don't understand them, or who are afraid the public won't understand them. At least we got rid of the helmet law, so that people whose heads aren't worth protecting don't have to protect them.


Wrong=/=illegally, yes. I brought it up to mention my own reckless behavior back in the days I thought I was invincible. I always wore a helmet and a jacket with titanium plates though. And yes, the death of my husband forced my hand because I saw that even if I was doing everything right, I was one driver not paying attention away from being road kill myself.
 
2013-04-19 05:48:01 PM  

CtrlAltDestroy: snailbarf: Being a daredevil or taking big risks isn't exclusive to smart or dumb people; I think that can be it's own character trait. If you can't relate to a young person who is not yet wise, maybe you never were one.

Wait, maybe I was never a what, now? A young person? Or an unwise person?

Calculated risks are the mark of an intelligent person. Needless, high danger risks are the mark of an unintelligent person. It doesn't take much wisdom to know the difference between the two.

It sounds like you're using youth as an excuse for making "unwise" decisions. If you think that you need to have 2-3 decades in before you're able to realize that things like "bumper surfing" and "going from car to car while in motion on a two lane road" are really really bad ideas then I'm thinking that you might still be in that acquiring wisdom stage. Even a preteen can know that physics are a cruel mistress and not something to tempt.

But I'll say this again. In my experience the only people who claim that it's normal for all young people to be idiots are, themselves, idiotic adults.


You're trying to put words in my mouth.

I'm saying that there are many otherwise smart people who have a varying degree of need for lessons in the fragility of life and the long term consequences of their actions, especially in the youth. History is littered with examples of this; one I can think of off the top of my head is a respected professor and scientist who went to Latin America and smuggled cocaine because he thought a super model was hitting on him through email. I'm sure there are Mensa members who drink and drive.

You must lack experience with a wide cross section of people and seem to have narrow view of human nature. I've known some very smart people and watched them take unnecessary,
dangerous risks because they were egged on by friends or didn't stop to think.
 
2013-04-19 05:50:35 PM  

syzygy whizz: FormlessOne: snailbarf: "ghost riding is stupid" - guy who never, ever stupid but fun things in his youth

"Stupid but fun things in his youth" = "throwing eggs at a house." Not "killing a family of four in a head-on collision" or "taking a curve at 70 mph and killing three passengers."

Under 'stupid but fun'...
how about "Sowing a meticulously, lovingly, obsessively maintained dichondra lawn with radish and/or dandelion seeds"?

OK, you can add 'slightly evil' to 'stupid but fun'


That is awesome haha
 
2013-04-19 05:57:18 PM  

kiwimoogle84: And yes, the death of my husband forced my hand because I saw that even if I was doing everything right, I was one driver not paying attention away from being road kill myself.


Unfortunately, this is also true in a car. Please don't let your guard down just because you're in a cage - the idiots can still get you if you don't drive defensively.
 
2013-04-19 07:07:33 PM  

snailbarf: You must lack experience with a wide cross section of people and seem to have narrow view of human nature. I've known some very smart people and watched them take unnecessary,
dangerous risks because they were egged on by friends or didn't stop to think.


It sounds like you know people with a low innate intelligence who were able to learn through trial and error. I've lived in 3 different states and in about 18 places within those states over the years. I spent a lot of that time "people watching". I've seen a wide variety of people. A less than intelligent person who is able to adapt is still a less than intelligent person, they just had the capacity for trial and error. They gained wisdom, little more.

There's a difference between wisdom and intelligence. A person can grow to be wise and knowledged while remaining less than intelligent. Wisdom can be gained, intelligence [for the most part] cannot.

Smuggling cocaine because a super model is hitting on him through email? A middle schooler can tell you why that is 100% a stupid thing to do. There wasn't a single point in my entire life where I'd be stupid enough to fall for that. Your friend became wise after doing enough stupid shiat. That doesn't make him intelligent. That makes him wise. Being able to learn from ones mistakes is admirable. Being dumb enough to make [some of] them in the first place is not.

The ass pull about Mensa members who drink and drive is irrelevant. Not caring about consequences or caring about others enough to alter one's behavior is a different subject all together. Sociopathic behavior (to varying degrees) and intelligence are not directly connected. It's entirelypossible to be very intelligent and still just not give a damn. Other people know quite well of the risks of what they're doing but just don't care enough about their own well being to not do it. This is also not a function of youth and instead a function of the individual.

Being young does not automatically make someone do or fall for stupid things. People who think this seem to be projecting pretty hard. "I did stupid shiat in my youth, and so did the people who were just like me (because I never hung out with those geeks or non party people), so obviously everyone else did too!"

Some of the idiot adults I know who regaled us with stories of doing insanely stupid things in the youth were quite knowledgeable in certain areas. But they were still pretty idiotic in general. They just were able to eventually learn.

My view of human nature is not narrow. Your view on why people who what they do and how they came to be the way they are (you know, human nature) seems to be. Youth doesn't make people do stupid things. Stupidity makes people do stupid things, regardless of age.
 
2013-04-19 07:16:05 PM  

snailbarf: take unnecessary,
dangerous risks because they were egged on by friends or didn't stop to think.


Oh, I forgot to comment specifically on this. This behavior is also not a function of youth. Succumbing to peer pressure, using peer pressure on people without regard for their well being, and not thinking before acting are not things that people do just because they are young. Those are character traits and reliant on the individual personal, not relative age.

Again, my brother and I never did any of that. The people I chose to associate with never did anything like that. I sat around all through middle and high school watching some people do those things and watching other people not do those things. All were young but not all were stupidly dangerous and/or risky.
 
2013-04-19 09:38:14 PM  

CtrlAltDestroy: Being young does not automatically make someone do or fall for stupid things.


No but being young does automatically come with inexperience/ignorance and these factors can lead to some unintended consequences.
 
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