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2013-04-18 01:26:16 PM
(On Lakers / Spurs)

• There is undoubtedly a certain segment of the basketball-watching population for whom every bit of the Lakers' struggles invokes some measure of delight. If you're in that group (or if you prefer to revel in schadenfreude more quietly), then this may be the series for you. Kobe Bryant's absence relieves the Lakers of any pressure to win a series like this one, but it also likely denies them a chance to compete with a far superior opponent.

The problem is that it would be kind of funny to see the Lakers do better without Kobe, especially considering Kobe will try to force his way back next year with his $30 million salary hit.  I'm kinda torn

/Let's go Celtics
 
2013-04-18 01:39:35 PM
I obviously haven't been watching enough NBA action lately -- when did the Bucks switch to an orange jersey?
 
2013-04-18 01:39:58 PM
Still putting a 10 spot on Milwaukee.

/big roller
//hates basketball
///likes big payouts
 
2013-04-18 01:44:50 PM

WhiskeySticks: Still putting a 10 spot on Milwaukee.

/big roller
//hates basketball
///likes big payouts


Check out the odds on the Bills or Jaguars winning the Super Bowl this year then. Should be right up your alley, and there's a lot better chance an inferior NFL team wins the championship than an NBA team.

Good series in the first round: Knicks-Celtics, Nuggets-Warriors, and Clippers-Grizzlies. The intriguing matchups a wont start till next round.
 
2013-04-18 01:46:26 PM

SnakeLee: The problem is that it would be kind of funny to see the Lakers do better without Kobe, especially considering Kobe will try to force his way back next year with his $30 million salary hit.


Kobe's getting paid that $30 million next year regardless, so I think they'd rather that he play than he didn't.
 
2013-04-18 01:51:57 PM

js34603: WhiskeySticks: Still putting a 10 spot on Milwaukee.

/big roller
//hates basketball
///likes big payouts

Check out the odds on the Bills or Jaguars winning the Super Bowl this year then. Should be right up your alley, and there's a lot better chance an inferior NFL team wins the championship than an NBA team.

Good series in the first round: Knicks-Celtics, Nuggets-Warriors, and Clippers-Grizzlies. The intriguing matchups a wont start till next round.


This.  There are pretty much no upsets in basketball.  Relative to other sports, its so rare it kinda makes the playoffs boring until the conference championships.  (Some rare exceptions have happened.)
 
2013-04-18 01:55:51 PM

exick: SnakeLee: The problem is that it would be kind of funny to see the Lakers do better without Kobe, especially considering Kobe will try to force his way back next year with his $30 million salary hit.

Kobe's getting paid that $30 million next year regardless, so I think they'd rather that he play than he didn't.


Especially since cutting Kobe only gets the team under the luxury threshold and not under the cap thus the options are have Kobe or not have Kobe and nobody else either since they can't sign anyone being over the cap.

Kobe, even at this age, provides a team value under the current max contract ($17 mil). Problem is that the new CBA did nothing to adjust the old salaries to the new way cap and luxury tax is calculated and it is viewed by many as a fark you to the Lakers since they were always willing to pay top dollars for top talent. If you're a Lakers fan it's going to suck for a few years until the old contracts that were signed before the new CBA expire and the team can be a player in the free agency since I doubt they'll be getting a top 5 draft pick anytime soon. If you're a Lakers hater than this provides you lots of joy to which all I have to say is "Look at the banners" and only one team can come back with a response.
 
2013-04-18 02:00:08 PM

downstairs: js34603: WhiskeySticks: Still putting a 10 spot on Milwaukee.

/big roller
//hates basketball
///likes big payouts

Check out the odds on the Bills or Jaguars winning the Super Bowl this year then. Should be right up your alley, and there's a lot better chance an inferior NFL team wins the championship than an NBA team.

Good series in the first round: Knicks-Celtics, Nuggets-Warriors, and Clippers-Grizzlies. The intriguing matchups a wont start till next round.

This.  There are pretty much no upsets in basketball.  Relative to other sports, its so rare it kinda makes the playoffs boring until the conference championships.  (Some rare exceptions have happened.)


I think that has to do with the number of players on the roster too. In any sport, a less talented team can beat a more talented team if they are healthier. However, since NBA has a smaller roster and most teams have a rotation of 7 or 8 players, it's easy to spot the more healthy team. In football, so much depends on players that get no media attention (OL and DL - exception being a DE or OLB with a ton of sacks) that regular fans do not necessarly notice it.

Throw in the fact that NBA has it as a best of 7 type of format and NFL is one and done and that adds a lot to the chance of upsets.
 
2013-04-18 02:03:10 PM
Bucks in 5.

That James LeBond is all flash.
 
2013-04-18 02:04:19 PM

downstairs: There are pretty much no upsets in basketball.


...unless Stern gets drunk and hands Vince Russo the book again.
 
2013-04-18 02:17:42 PM

exick: SnakeLee: The problem is that it would be kind of funny to see the Lakers do better without Kobe, especially considering Kobe will try to force his way back next year with his $30 million salary hit.

Kobe's getting paid that $30 million next year regardless, so I think they'd rather that he play than he didn't.


They still have their amnesty, but he wouldn't be able to play for the Lakers and nobody would pay him that much.  It would suck balls if he went to the Heat though
 
2013-04-18 02:18:10 PM
Would have picked Clips/Griz first, but Nuggets/Warriors is gonna be a fun, but short series. Nuggets in 5.
 
2013-04-18 02:19:39 PM

ddam: Especially since cutting Kobe only gets the team under the luxury threshold and not under the cap thus the options are have Kobe or not have Kobe and nobody else either since they can't sign anyone being over the cap.


I think since it gets them under the luxury tax line they would have one of those exceptions available, so they wouldn't just be limited to guys making the minimum.
 
2013-04-18 02:23:15 PM
This is why there are no Bucks fans in Wisconsin. Yay. Bucks made the playoffs. Barely. All they did is screw themselves out of the few ping-pong balls they would have had. All an 8 seed gets you is a date with a star-laden 1-seed that's just going to roll right over you. What's the point?
 
2013-04-18 02:24:30 PM
I'm more enthusiastic about the playoffs than I have been in a few years. I hope Tim gets One For The Thumb, and retires.
 
2013-04-18 02:35:03 PM

SnakeLee: They still have their amnesty, but he wouldn't be able to play for the Lakers and nobody would pay him that much. It would suck balls if he went to the Heat though


The Lakers aren't going to even discuss that unless his injury turns into one that will keep him out all of next season. And even then I still think it's a longshot that they would do it. The financial savings would be a huge upside, but there are a lot of downsides to it.

Gonz: I hope Tim gets One For The Thumb, and retires.


The only other player in the league that I'm going to be bummed about when he retires.
 
2013-04-18 02:35:03 PM
3. New York Knicks (2) vs. Boston Celtics (7)
It's hard to go wrong with a juxtaposition of teams that hold such genuine contempt for one another


Is there really that much of a Knicks-Celtics rivalry? I feel like the two teams are rarely good at the same time -- you'd probably have to go back to the early 70's for a time when both teams were jostling to represent the Eastern Conference.  The Knicks have sucked so much recently that the last "rivalries" I can actually recall would be with the Reggie Miller era Pacers and the Alonzo Mourning era Heat.
 
2013-04-18 02:40:14 PM
"Bucks Heat" would make a good porno actor name.

So at least there's that.
 
2013-04-18 02:45:50 PM

downstairs: js34603: WhiskeySticks: Still putting a 10 spot on Milwaukee.

/big roller
//hates basketball
///likes big payouts

Check out the odds on the Bills or Jaguars winning the Super Bowl this year then. Should be right up your alley, and there's a lot better chance an inferior NFL team wins the championship than an NBA team.

Good series in the first round: Knicks-Celtics, Nuggets-Warriors, and Clippers-Grizzlies. The intriguing matchups a wont start till next round.

This.  There are pretty much no upsets in basketball.  Relative to other sports, its so rare it kinda makes the playoffs boring until the conference championships.  (Some rare exceptions have happened.)


Unless there's an injury. Bucks won't win an NBA championship, but if LeBron goes down, the Heat could easily fall in the first round. Without him, they're barely above a .500 team.
 
2013-04-18 02:50:36 PM

Supes: Unless there's an injury. Bucks won't win an NBA championship, but if LeBron goes down, the Heat could easily fall in the first round. Without him, they're barely above a .500 team.


I know they're regular season games, but they've been beating everyone with LeBron, Wade, Bosh, Chalmers and Allen resting recently. Including the Spurs without LeBron, Wade, and Chalmers. (IIRC Bosh did play that one though)
 
2013-04-18 02:53:04 PM

fickenchucker: Bucks in 5.

That James LeBond is all flash.


The Refs wouldn't allow it.

/How did the Lakers make it it to the playoffs?
 
2013-04-18 02:56:24 PM
Aar1012:
/How did the Lakers make it it to the playoffs?


Refs. (I wish I was joking)
 
2013-04-18 02:59:37 PM

Aar1012: The Refs wouldn't allow it.


Also, the fact that the Heat are a vastly superior team won't allow it.
 
2013-04-18 03:03:19 PM

LegacyDL: Aar1012:
/How did the Lakers make it it to the playoffs?


Refs. (I wish I was joking)


That's a sideshow though. What Stern wants now while the Lakers are on a downslide is a Heat/OKC rivalry. And that's what we're going to get. When the Lakers retool they'll be back in the Finals against Stern's latest project. Knicks perhaps?
 
2013-04-18 03:07:47 PM

Decillion: When the Lakers retool they'll be back in the Finals against Stern's latest project.


Even though he won't be commissioner anymore?
 
2013-04-18 03:09:05 PM
It never takes long for the Stern conspiracy theories to start flying in an NBA thread. I'm curious to see how Adam Silver's machinations compare with those of David "The Puppetmaster" Stern starting next season. Should be interesting to compare notes between huffs of airplane glue.
 
2013-04-18 03:11:10 PM

IAmRight: Decillion: When the Lakers retool they'll be back in the Finals against Stern's latest project.

Even though he won't be commissioner anymore?


Can't decide if he'll pull a Leno or a Putin.
 
2013-04-18 03:14:38 PM
Maybe the nuggets will do better than the usual 1 and done this year. Sucks Gallinari had to get hurt though, hopefully Fareed is totally healthy in time for the series.
 
2013-04-18 03:21:13 PM

SnakeLee: exick: SnakeLee: The problem is that it would be kind of funny to see the Lakers do better without Kobe, especially considering Kobe will try to force his way back next year with his $30 million salary hit.

Kobe's getting paid that $30 million next year regardless, so I think they'd rather that he play than he didn't.

They still have their amnesty, but he wouldn't be able to play for the Lakers and nobody would pay him that much.  It would suck balls if he went to the Heat though


If the Lakers amnesty Kobe, then the other teams can claim him for less than his contract; the Lakers would be responsible for paying the difference. So a team under the cap could pay him $5 million a year (if that's the highest bid) and the Lakers would have to foot the remaining $25 million.

I doubt the Lakers will use it on Kobe; primarily because they have a 7 day window in July to decide; there's no real way of knowing how well he's progressing through rehab at that point.
 
2013-04-18 03:24:20 PM
Except that the Heat seem to play down to the Bucks. As a Heat fan, I'm not happy to see them in the first round.
 
2013-04-18 03:32:50 PM
I know it wasn't the hardest list in the world to make, but I want to give these guys props anyways. Finding a rank ordering or power rankings or top ten on Fark that's actually correct is rarer than hen's teeth.
 
2013-04-18 03:42:36 PM

GQueue: ddam: Especially since cutting Kobe only gets the team under the luxury threshold and not under the cap thus the options are have Kobe or not have Kobe and nobody else either since they can't sign anyone being over the cap.

I think since it gets them under the luxury tax line they would have one of those exceptions available, so they wouldn't just be limited to guys making the minimum.


IIRC, they talked about it on the radio yesterday and they'd have a $3 mil exception available. You're still not geting someone with that kind of contract.
 
2013-04-18 03:46:49 PM

ddam: exick: SnakeLee: The problem is that it would be kind of funny to see the Lakers do better without Kobe, especially considering Kobe will try to force his way back next year with his $30 million salary hit.

Kobe's getting paid that $30 million next year regardless, so I think they'd rather that he play than he didn't.

Especially since cutting Kobe only gets the team under the luxury threshold and not under the cap thus the options are have Kobe or not have Kobe and nobody else either since they can't sign anyone being over the cap.

Kobe, even at this age, provides a team value under the current max contract ($17 mil). Problem is that the new CBA did nothing to adjust the old salaries to the new way cap and luxury tax is calculated and it is viewed by many as a fark you to the Lakers since they were always willing to pay top dollars for top talent. If you're a Lakers fan it's going to suck for a few years until the old contracts that were signed before the new CBA expire and the team can be a player in the free agency since I doubt they'll be getting a top 5 draft pick anytime soon. If you're a Lakers hater than this provides you lots of joy to which all I have to say is "Look at the banners" and only one team can come back with a response.


Hi.

/ let's go Celtics!
 
2013-04-18 03:48:05 PM

Arkanaut: 3. New York Knicks (2) vs. Boston Celtics (7)
It's hard to go wrong with a juxtaposition of teams that hold such genuine contempt for one another

Is there really that much of a Knicks-Celtics rivalry? I feel like the two teams are rarely good at the same time -- you'd probably have to go back to the early 70's for a time when both teams were jostling to represent the Eastern Conference.  The Knicks have sucked so much recently that the last "rivalries" I can actually recall would be with the Reggie Miller era Pacers and the Alonzo Mourning era Heat.


Bird Vs King in the 80s
 
2013-04-18 04:34:42 PM

IAmRight: Supes: Unless there's an injury. Bucks won't win an NBA championship, but if LeBron goes down, the Heat could easily fall in the first round. Without him, they're barely above a .500 team.

I know they're regular season games, but they've been beating everyone with LeBron, Wade, Bosh, Chalmers and Allen resting recently. Including the Spurs without LeBron, Wade, and Chalmers. (IIRC Bosh did play that one though)


Six games without LeBron. Loss to the Knicks. Wins over Orlando, Cleveland, Charlotte, Washington. None of those five games are surprising.

Yes, the also beat the Spurs without LeBron (and without Wade), but it was one of those flukey games where the Heat hit ever 3-pointer, and the Spurs weren't hitting any. It takes more than one game to show a trend.
 
2013-04-18 04:44:54 PM

dj_spanmaster: Except that the Heat seem to play down to the Bucks. As a Heat fan, I'm not happy to see them in the first round.


I'm not really following either team, but I gotta believe thats a regular season thing.

I don't see the Bucks winning a game.
 
2013-04-18 04:55:40 PM

Gosling: This is why there are no Bucks fans in Wisconsin. Yay. Bucks made the playoffs. Barely. All they did is screw themselves out of the few ping-pong balls they would have had. All an 8 seed gets you is a date with a star-laden 1-seed that's just going to roll right over you. What's the point?


Once I saw the 7-seed falling out of their grasp I was all "OK NOW LOSE EVERY GAME AND JUST GTFO OF THE PLAYOFFS"
 
2013-04-18 05:06:35 PM

Supes: Six games without LeBron. Loss to the Knicks. Wins over Orlando, Cleveland, Charlotte, Washington. None of those five games are surprising.


They won a game while sitting their entire starting line up. That's always surprising,
 
2013-04-18 05:53:00 PM
You'd think the Lakers would've signed TMac or Iverson or some other old guard trying to get back into the league.
 
2013-04-18 05:59:38 PM
God the east blows.  Couldn't Stern work some magic to make it watchable?

/I don't really believe the NBA is fixed
//well, any more fixed than the NFL
 
2013-04-18 06:02:09 PM
Hey, they got it right. Go Warriors!
 
2013-04-18 06:04:00 PM

regindyn: God the east blows.  Couldn't Stern work some magic to make it watchable?


I guess he could order Rose to stop sulking and get on the court again.
 
2013-04-18 06:06:17 PM
Eff you, subby.

FEAR THE DEER

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/still have my autographed picture of Bango, the Bucks' mascot that I got when I was like 12
//...at least I think I still have it
///...oh fark, where the hell did I put that?
 
2013-04-18 06:10:53 PM

dookdookdook: Eff you, subby.

FEAR THE DEER

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swag


/still have my autographed picture of Bango, the Bucks' mascot that I got when I was like 12
//...at least I think I still have it
///...oh fark, where the hell did I put that?


Hope the Bucks make it a series just so I can make a Bucks mashed up with a trollface logo
 
2013-04-18 06:10:56 PM

LegacyDL: Aar1012:
/How did the Lakers make it it to the playoffs?


Refs. (I wish I was joking)


And I was quasi-joking when I said that the Lakers and the Yankees always make the playoffs
 
2013-04-18 06:27:59 PM

Communist_Manifesto: Maybe the nuggets will do better than the usual 1 and done this year. Sucks Gallinari had to get hurt though, hopefully Fareed is totally healthy in time for the series.


Yeah, but this is probably the deepest Nuggets team ever. Hell, you can make a case to start Wilson Chandler ahead of Gallo even when they're both healthy.

And Faried should be ok. I see GS looking tough but the Nugs will eventually outrun them in five.
 
2013-04-18 06:59:55 PM
Man Knicks-Celtics is going to be a war not a series. Man every game those two teams have against each other turns into a game of full contact floor hockey. Kicks envy the storied success bean town has and Boston see them as a threat. Though Knicks are going in almost competely healthy with the minor exception of sprain on Prigoni. It will be interesting. Though I think Knicks should hold them to five.
/Go Knicks.
 
2013-04-18 08:42:00 PM

Arkanaut: I obviously haven't been watching enough NBA action lately -- when did the Bucks switch to an orange jersey?


I always saw them as red. In any case, they're alternates. They usually wear a green one.

Arkanaut: 3. New York Knicks (2) vs. Boston Celtics (7)
It's hard to go wrong with a juxtaposition of teams that hold such genuine contempt for one another

Is there really that much of a Knicks-Celtics rivalry? I feel like the two teams are rarely good at the same time -- you'd probably have to go back to the early 70's for a time when both teams were jostling to represent the Eastern Conference.  The Knicks have sucked so much recently that the last "rivalries" I can actually recall would be with the Reggie Miller era Pacers and the Alonzo Mourning era Heat.


It's been better the past couple of years, and jumped up a further notch with the KG-'Melo Honey Nut Cheerios incident. As a Knicks fan I think we take the series, but I have to admit that I was hoping that Atlanta would drop to the 7-seed so we'd have an easier time. Pierce in particular tends to step up against the Knicks.
 
2013-04-18 08:58:12 PM

FreakinB: KG-'Melo Honey Nut Cheerios incident


LOL yeah
 
2013-04-18 09:33:16 PM

downstairs: js34603: WhiskeySticks: Still putting a 10 spot on Milwaukee.

/big roller
//hates basketball
///likes big payouts

Check out the odds on the Bills or Jaguars winning the Super Bowl this year then. Should be right up your alley, and there's a lot better chance an inferior NFL team wins the championship than an NBA team.

Good series in the first round: Knicks-Celtics, Nuggets-Warriors, and Clippers-Grizzlies. The intriguing matchups a wont start till next round.

This.  There are pretty much no upsets in basketball.  Relative to other sports, its so rare it kinda makes the playoffs boring until the conference championships.  (Some rare exceptions have happened.)


It was just the year before last that 8 seed Memphis upset 1 seed San Antonio.  It hasn't exactly been that long since there's been a major upset in the first round.
 
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