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2013-04-18 01:03:23 PM

Jackson Herring: I like the mental image of the Boston Herald as a security blanky


I'm surprised you've never heard that story. I tell it all the time. Usually when someone cites the Herald as a news source.
 
2013-04-18 01:03:33 PM

Snuffybud: Tatsuma: Speaker2Animals: Right, no one except the editors of the NY Post who put their pictures on the front page with screaming f*cking headlines all but calling them guilty.

Not just the NY Post, but CBS, MSNBC, FOX, CNN, etc... Every news outlet were running pictures of those guys yesterday saying they were suspects and that the FBI was looking for them and pretty much saying they were the guys responsible.

The whole MSM should be attacked for this, not one of many papers to run this as front page material.

*Citation needed*


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 
2013-04-18 01:03:47 PM
Staffers at the NYP are mining places like this, reddit, 4chan, etc for suggestions.

Those pics get on the front pages because of accusations and discussins from threads.

Does anybody have a link to the FBI suggesting these people are suspects? Do the descriptions match the people whos description you can easily see in the photo if you were an FBI agent? I have heard them state they want to talk to someone with a white hat on backwards, a black jacket with a brown hoodie underneath it who was talking on a cell phone.

The photos of these guys are from hours before the bombs going off.
 
2013-04-18 01:04:24 PM

what_now: Jackson Herring: I like the mental image of the Boston Herald as a security blanky

I'm surprised you've never heard that story. I tell it all the time. Usually when someone cites the Herald as a news source.


oh I've heard it four or five times, I just still like the mental image
 
2013-04-18 01:04:46 PM
I wonder if Tatsuma would be so quick to defend the NY Post if the FBI said that the suspects appear to be Chassidic Jews and 4chan decided to start posting pictures of random Chassidic guys in the crowd, which the NY Post starts posting online with the headline "BAG MEN."
 
2013-04-18 01:05:19 PM
Hey, have you guys heard that Obama is using Air Force 1 to fly the Saudi Arabian bomber back to Kenya?

I heard it on facebook. Share the word!
 
2013-04-18 01:05:24 PM

Snuffybud: *Citation needed*


i.imgur.com
 
2013-04-18 01:07:17 PM

Giltric: Does anybody have a link to the FBI suggesting these people are suspects?


The FBI never issued official pictures. The NY Post's article claims that it comes from an "unknown source" who gave them an email being sent between unknown "law enforcement officers" asking if anyone can identify the two guys.
 
2013-04-18 01:07:41 PM
It's amazing when horribly prejudiced people convince themselves they're not.....

/talking about one person in this thread
//one sad, sad person
 
2013-04-18 01:08:06 PM

Tatsuma: Speaker2Animals: Right, no one except the editors of the NY Post who put their pictures on the front page with screaming f*cking headlines all but calling them guilty.

Not just the NY Post, but CBS, MSNBC, FOX, CNN, etc... Every news outlet were running pictures of those guys yesterday saying they were suspects and that the FBI was looking for them and pretty much saying they were the guys responsible.

The whole MSM should be attacked for this, not one of many papers to run this as front page material.


HAH! So I think you've slipped a little below CNN in the credibility department. The FBI NEVER named these two as 'suspects'. The description they had been releasing all day yesterday and still today is two guys, one of which was wearing a backwards white cap, gray/light-colored hoodie, black bag and white.

You've been pushing these two hard, despite not fitting the description that was released by the FBI. The FBI didn't release this photo either, it came from a Reddit thread and was originally sourced from a Gawker Media (maybe Deadspin or Gizmodo) writer who was outside the site of bomb #1. The FBI hasn't released the images/video that they say capture the suspects they are interested in and no independent sources has it because it came from the dept. store camera across from bomb site #2.

YOU FOUND an image that barely fit your narrative and the description (white hat, black bag)and jumped on the bandwagon, cause "HEY! BROWN, MUST BE THEM!"
 
2013-04-18 01:08:12 PM
The pair show up in multiple photos of the finish line. They carry large bags. They are dark-skinned. This was enough for internet sleuths to peg them as suspicious.

What a liar. I checked out Reddit and they have multiple suspects including white guys. Yes carrying bags DO make your more like the likely suspect. And being close to where the bomb went off does too. And in the Reddit threads they repeatedly talk about just because they are people that could possibly have done it, it doesn't mean they are guilty. In fact, Reddit has threads about stopping other people from blaming these people for the crime because there is no proof.

This guy is an ass feeding into the frenzy of attacking what's being done on Reddit without worrying about the facts.
 
2013-04-18 01:09:06 PM

what_now: I'm surprised you've never heard that story. I tell it all the time. Usually when someone cites the Herald as a news source.


You never told me that, but I'm more likely to cite the Metro (Highlights For Commuters) than that pile of dreck.
 
2013-04-18 01:09:34 PM
Eventhough only retards claim these kids are suspects, it's a good thing that police actually talk to them.  By doing so, they can then release a public statement regarding how these so called suspects, although they are darker than average, are clearly innocent and are not suspects, thus telling the retards to STFU.
 
2013-04-18 01:10:38 PM
Meanwhile, CNN is sending the NY Post's editors a giant fruit basket and flowers.
 
2013-04-18 01:13:16 PM
I have to say this is the liveliest Boston marathon thread yet.
 
2013-04-18 01:13:56 PM
what_now: 
*a Hijab is a head scarf. It's sort of what your grandmother wore to keep her hair did. It is not a bomb vest.

I am so stealing that.
 
2013-04-18 01:16:06 PM
oh snap
 
2013-04-18 01:21:32 PM

SultanofSchwing: [i444.photobucket.com image 442x352]


i586.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-18 01:22:05 PM

what_now: BunkoSquad: Hey, look, it's happening already.


I am going to copypasta this from a few years ago: I think we found our suspect

So, several weeks ago, I'm on the T coming back from a little Christmas shopping. It's the middle of a bright, unseasonably warm, sunny day. A man gets on holding the Boston Herald. He's a beefy looking white man, mid fifties probably, florid in complexion, silly mustache. He gives me a once over; I read my book.

Then, two Muslim ladies get on. They are in jeans, sweaters and hijabs*. They are probably mid to late twenties. One is heavily pregnant, the other has a baby carriage with a small child inside. They get on, take some seats and start conversing softly- in English.

The Herald reader looks up in alarm and stares at them with for a while, clutching his newspaper to his chest like a binky. They get off at MIT where, either they or their husbands- or both- are probably grad students or post docs.

The Herald reader scoots over to me, and says "Well, I'm glad THAT'S over". I'm not sure what scared him more, two petite women, or the thought that the baby in the carriage would laugh at him for reading the Boston Herald.

*a Hijab is a head scarf. It's sort of what your grandmother wore to keep her hair did. It is not a bomb vest.


I would likely suffer a similar reaction. I am pedophobic; close proximity to children and infants causes me to experience anxiety.

/Except that I do not read the Boston Herald.
//Get all of my news from Fark.
 
2013-04-18 01:23:03 PM

RexTalionis: Tatsuma: No, it's the fact that they were standing literally over the spot where the bomb exploded, and it clearly appears from one of the photographs that one of them ditched a bag there before they left. That's why they were pegged as suspicious. Another white guy close by was also pegged as suspicious. Nothing to do with color.

According to Tatsuma, all of these people are suspects.

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 850x564]

http://deadspin.com/i-watched-the-marathon-bombing-from-above-these- ar e-my-473591429

Here's a list of the complete sequence of photos from the photographer that made them. Nothing to back up Tatsuma's assertion that one of them left a bag.


Except other photo from other people  show them without the bags moments before the blast. I  belive it was very irresponsible for the Post to put this on thier front page, but the hate for TATS  is interfering withmany farkers  common sense.
 
2013-04-18 01:24:02 PM

Tatsuma: Snuffybud: Can you be more full of crap that you already are? First you say 2 incidents. Then when you are shown that it's way way more than that you lie again. I count 11 incidents of actual violence in the 2 months after 9/11 in that link, unless you don't count firebombing convenience stores as violent incidents. I guess it doesn't count if someone shoots at you and misses? It's evidently not violence if you chase someone with a car but they get away? You've certainly got a funny way of categorizing "violent" incidents!

He said 'people going down in the streets and beating up sikhs, latinos, etc..', that's what the incidents were referring to, people who committed physical assaults/murder so no I did not count firebombing.



You are so effen full of shiat, keep moving those goal posts. Leaving out firebombing of restaurants and stores we've got these incidents in just 2 months after 9/11

• Sept. 12, 2001 - South Huntington, New York
Adam Lang, 76, was charged with first-degree reckless endangerment and a hate crime after he allegedly tried to run down a Pakistani woman with his car.

• Sept. 13, 2001 - Bloomington, Indiana
A Muslim student was allegedly assaulted and verbally harassed by a white student.

• Sept. 15, 2001 - Mesa, Arizona
Balbir Singh Sodhi, a 49-year-old Sikh and native of India, was fatally shot outside his gas station by Frank Silva Roque, who mistakenly believed Sodhi was Muslim. Roque then allegedly fired shots at a man of Lebanese descent working at another gas station, and at an Afghan family's residence.

• Sept. 15, 2001 - Dallas, Texas
Waqar Hasan, a 46-year-old Pakistani immigrant, was shot to death in his convenience store. Mark Stroman, who allegedly said he was angry with people of Middle Eastern descent after the 9/11 terrorist attacks, was charged with Hasan's murder. Stroman was also charged with the Oct. 4 murder of Vasudev Patel, a 49-year-old native of India, at a gas station convenience store in Mesquite, Texas.

• Sept. 29, 2001 - Reedley, California
Abdo Ali Ahmed, a 51-year-old Yemeni man, was shot to death outside his convenience store. Two days earlier a note reading, "We're going to kill all (expletive) Arabs," was left on his car windshield.

• Nov. 1, 2001 - Prince William, Virginia
Stanley Elburn Smith III, 27, and James M. Terrell, 25, were charged with assault and battery, malicious wounding and fraud for allegedly assaulting a Pakistani man.

• Nov. 2, 2001 - Tacoma, Washington
A bomb was detonated outside the home of a family of Middle Eastern descent.

That's a hell of a lot more than the 2 incidents you claimed. At Gat_00 said, this place was a much nicer place without you.
 
2013-04-18 01:24:15 PM

Danger Mouse: Except other photo from other people show them without the bags moments before the blast. I belive it was very irresponsible for the Post to put this on thier front page, but the hate for TATS is interfering withmany farkers common sense.


Pretty much.

I'm in the middle of a flame war and I don't even what it's about right now. It's kind of weird.
 
2013-04-18 01:24:59 PM
Or perhaps a more direct opposite: come in here and go "It's all the Jews fault!"

Which of course isn't what happened, but false equivalences are fun when you have nothing.
 
2013-04-18 01:25:44 PM

YodaBlues: Tatsuma: Speaker2Animals: Right, no one except the editors of the NY Post who put their pictures on the front page with screaming f*cking headlines all but calling them guilty.

Not just the NY Post, but CBS, MSNBC, FOX, CNN, etc... Every news outlet were running pictures of those guys yesterday saying they were suspects and that the FBI was looking for them and pretty much saying they were the guys responsible.

The whole MSM should be attacked for this, not one of many papers to run this as front page material.

HAH! So I think you've slipped a little below CNN in the credibility department. The FBI NEVER named these two as 'suspects'. The description they had been releasing all day yesterday and still today is two guys, one of which was wearing a backwards white cap, gray/light-colored hoodie, black bag and white.

You've been pushing these two hard, despite not fitting the description that was released by the FBI. The FBI didn't release this photo either, it came from a Reddit thread and was originally sourced from a Gawker Media (maybe Deadspin or Gizmodo) writer who was outside the site of bomb #1. The FBI hasn't released the images/video that they say capture the suspects they are interested in and no independent sources has it because it came from the dept. store camera across from bomb site #2.

YOU FOUND an image that barely fit your narrative and the description (white hat, black bag)and jumped on the bandwagon, cause "HEY! BROWN, MUST BE THEM!"


Agree with everything you said except  "one of which was wearing a backwards white cap, gray/light-colored hoodie, black bag and white." They never said they're looking for White guys & the FBI clearly has video have the suspect(s) dropping off the bag(s).
 
2013-04-18 01:26:09 PM

Snuffybud: That's a hell of a lot more than the 2 incidents you claimed.


After a quick look, I also said that he was right, it was more than that. I also said in September and October, that three men were shot and three others were assaulted, and the list you posted backs up exactly what I said.
 
2013-04-18 01:29:22 PM

Tatsuma: Snuffybud: That's a hell of a lot more than the 2 incidents you claimed.

After a quick look, I also said that he was right, it was more than that. I also said in September and October, that three men were shot and three others were assaulted, and the list you posted backs up exactly what I said.


You'll repeat the lie the next time you feel it serves you though.
 
2013-04-18 01:31:09 PM

HotWingConspiracy: Tatsuma: Snuffybud: That's a hell of a lot more than the 2 incidents you claimed.

After a quick look, I also said that he was right, it was more than that. I also said in September and October, that three men were shot and three others were assaulted, and the list you posted backs up exactly what I said.

You'll repeat the lie the next time you feel it serves you though.


He made the claim in the thread on Monday already. A lot of people pointed out to him that he was wrong. He's making the claim again. And he'll keep doing so in future threads, because the posters will be different and would've forgotten about it.
 
2013-04-18 01:31:24 PM

what_now: Jackson Herring: I like the mental image of the Boston Herald as a security blanky

I'm surprised you've never heard that story. I tell it all the time. Usually when someone cites the Herald as a news source.


Oh, I thought you told that story because everyone who rides the T is opininated douche.

/employs the same logic and is supported by your post.
 
2013-04-18 01:31:25 PM

PC LOAD LETTER: Tatsuma: Nothing to do with color.

It's the NY Post. They are sooooo wanting this to be another 9/11. They didn't report on the white dude that's all over Reddit. Just these two. Because it fits their narrative. I hope it's a white dude. Sikhs, Latinos and other not-quite-blacks will be beat up in the street like after 9/11. Hell, even Israelis were shouted at here in NYC.


Or maybe it's because reddit is not a credible source?
 
2013-04-18 01:34:07 PM

James!: Reddit already stalked these two guys into the ground based on their junior FBI bullshiat.  They happen to be runners at a marathon. So very suspicious.


They were guilty of Running While Brown.

Like that Saudi student who was tackled for "suspiciously" running away from a farking explosion.

We have enough problems with racial profiling without jackholes like the NY Post fanning the flames with speculation and outright false information. Posting such things and discussing "what if...?" on an internet forum or blog is one thing, but to do so on the front page of a paper (or a TV news program) is dangerous and irresponsible. And of course you NEVER hear an apology or correction after the fact. Not like most Americans would notice or remember anyway, if the truth doesn't fit into their worldview narrative.
 
2013-04-18 01:34:43 PM

Danger Mouse: xcept other photo from other people  show them without the bags moments before the blast.


No, it doesn't show that.  It shows the one with the blue Nike bag still over his shoulder (you can see the black strap, I have that same bag), and the other possibly holding his in front of him because he's in a much more crowded spot.
 
2013-04-18 01:35:06 PM

Phoenix_M: Agree with everything you said except  "one of which was wearing a backwards white cap, gray/light-colored hoodie, black bag and white." They never said they're looking for White guys & the FBI clearly has video have the suspect(s) dropping off the bag(s).


You're right, my bad. Went googling to get the exact description and CNN had the ethnicity listed, but FBI hasn't stated it, sooo it looks like THEY really want it to be white guys.

/Maybe I really want it to be white guys.
//I just want the chicken farkers found already.
 
2013-04-18 01:36:04 PM

2 grams: Oh, I thought you told that story because everyone who rides the T is opininated douche.


I've had a few good dates who were very polite, thank you.
 
2013-04-18 01:36:47 PM

Phoenix_M: YodaBlues: Tatsuma: Speaker2Animals: Right, no one except the editors of the NY Post who put their pictures on the front page with screaming f*cking headlines all but calling them guilty.

Not just the NY Post, but CBS, MSNBC, FOX, CNN, etc... Every news outlet were running pictures of those guys yesterday saying they were suspects and that the FBI was looking for them and pretty much saying they were the guys responsible.

The whole MSM should be attacked for this, not one of many papers to run this as front page material.

HAH! So I think you've slipped a little below CNN in the credibility department. The FBI NEVER named these two as 'suspects'. The description they had been releasing all day yesterday and still today is two guys, one of which was wearing a backwards white cap, gray/light-colored hoodie, black bag and white.

You've been pushing these two hard, despite not fitting the description that was released by the FBI. The FBI didn't release this photo either, it came from a Reddit thread and was originally sourced from a Gawker Media (maybe Deadspin or Gizmodo) writer who was outside the site of bomb #1. The FBI hasn't released the images/video that they say capture the suspects they are interested in and no independent sources has it because it came from the dept. store camera across from bomb site #2.

YOU FOUND an image that barely fit your narrative and the description (white hat, black bag)and jumped on the bandwagon, cause "HEY! BROWN, MUST BE THEM!"

Agree with everything you said except  "one of which was wearing a backwards white cap, gray/light-colored hoodie, black bag and white." They never said they're looking for White guys & the FBI clearly has video have the suspect(s) dropping off the bag(s).



With all of the info that has been coming out it isn't that hard to weed out the info given by the FBI and info taken from the back of the internets cocktail napkin. And these are super duper analytical minds measuring the thread count on peoples backpacks and scaling the size of every model pressure cooker available to see if it would fit in random peoples backpacks.....

Top internet men.
 
2013-04-18 01:37:08 PM

Tatsuma: the FBI did say they were suspects


No they didn't. Stop lying.
 
2013-04-18 01:38:03 PM
On a side note, do any of you visit liveleak or other sites?  The relationship between the act of killing and Allah in these Arab nations is quite frankly scary as hell.  In 2001, I sided with the "Islam is actually peaceful" camp.  But it is not.  It truly is a religion ruled by the sword.
Sadly, we devastated the only Arab country that began thinking in terms of the western culture.  That being Iraq.
 
2013-04-18 01:38:26 PM
Sorry WebKids.  You slander and defame someone, you pay for it.  If it were me I'd be chasing down a couple large paychecks.
 
2013-04-18 01:39:06 PM

Tatsuma: Apparently we need to, because you seem to think it was based in racism: it was not.

Another of the suspects identified by Reddit looks like he's a white male in his 50s.


No, not racism, profiling.

Sorry, but a white guy in his 50's is a prime demographic for this bombing too. Like it or not, in the pool for the most likely candidates its a too-close-to-call split between the perps either have a prayer rug or a Gadsden flag.

/and before those morons that wave around Gadsden flags start howling about being unfairly persecuted, if you didn't want people to suspect you of shiat like this, maybe you shouldn't threaten to do it so much, so loudly, or so often then.
 
2013-04-18 01:39:07 PM
I hope those guys end up owning the New York Post. They'll almost certainly do a better job of running it - at least they couldn't do worse.
 
2013-04-18 01:39:13 PM

I should be in the kitchen: James!: Reddit already stalked these two guys into the ground based on their junior FBI bullshiat.  They happen to be runners at a marathon. So very suspicious.

They were guilty of Running While Brown.

Like that Saudi student who was tackled for "suspiciously" running away from a farking explosion.

We have enough problems with racial profiling without jackholes like the NY Post fanning the flames with speculation and outright false information. Posting such things and discussing "what if...?" on an internet forum or blog is one thing, but to do so on the front page of a paper (or a TV news program) is dangerous and irresponsible. And of course you NEVER hear an apology or correction after the fact. Not like most Americans would notice or remember anyway, if the truth doesn't fit into their worldview narrative.


Their demo is right wing racists and bigots, and they hit all the right buttons. Just look at the thread. One of them gets so excited he cannot wait to run interference for them.
 
2013-04-18 01:39:22 PM

RexTalionis: Tatsuma: No, it's the fact that they were standing literally over the spot where the bomb exploded, and it clearly appears from one of the photographs that one of them ditched a bag there before they left. That's why they were pegged as suspicious. Another white guy close by was also pegged as suspicious. Nothing to do with color.

According to Tatsuma, all of these people are suspects.

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 850x564]

http://deadspin.com/i-watched-the-marathon-bombing-from-above-these- ar e-my-473591429

Here's a list of the complete sequence of photos from the photographer that made them. Nothing to back up Tatsuma's assertion that one of them left a bag.


is that red circle the bomb bag?
 
2013-04-18 01:39:23 PM

Zulu_as_Kono: No they didn't. Stop lying.


I've just literally posted a screencap on television of the FBI asking for info about them. Me calling them a suspect is an error because the MSM said they were suspects when the FBI described them as Persons of Interest only
 
2013-04-18 01:42:06 PM

Tatsuma: Danger Mouse: Except other photo from other people show them without the bags moments before the blast. I belive it was very irresponsible for the Post to put this on thier front page, but the hate for TATS is interfering withmany farkers common sense.

Pretty much.

I'm in the middle of a flame war and I don't even what it's about right now. It's kind of weird.


I think it's because you keep insisting they were directly over ground zero and observed to drop something when they were actually just in vague proximity to it, and that it was conclusive that they left a bag, when the pictures "sans bag" all show him with front obscured while he is apparently holding SOMETHING in front of him.  The accusations of racism come from the insistence they must be involved, to the point of mocking people pointing out how normal their behavior appeared to be from the pictures.

I must admit, I was actually hoping for a bit of a retraction from you today.  I am well aware you were very careful to take the CNN route of "only reporting what other people found as 'interesting'", but it's disappointing watching you do damage control about why you suspected them instead of just saying that you were mislead by inconclusive evidence, and you apologize for your part in spreading their image over, and over, and over again with accusatory captioning.
 
2013-04-18 01:42:34 PM
If the NY Post put up a picture of me and called me the "bag man" for the bombings?  After discussing my complete innocence with the FBI I'd be dancing in the streets over my forthcoming payday, because I would ride those b@stards right into the ground.
 
2013-04-18 01:43:28 PM

monoski: Looks like someone might make some money from the race without beating the Kenyans.


HAs anbody looked into the possibility of the bombers being Kenyans?  I've got a bazillion photos of Kenyans all running around that day...very suspicious.  I bet they don't even live here.
 
2013-04-18 01:44:23 PM

Mr Guy: was conclusive


bah inconclusive
 
2013-04-18 01:44:32 PM

This is really a simple case to solve.  Stop looking for dark skinned men with backpacks in the crowd.  Arabs aren't know for their pressure cooked dinners.  Neither are Israelies.  Nor are Irish.

But this man is...

www.genuinekentucky.com


Find his face in this crowd, and you've got a suspect.  He always wears white too.  Should be easy to pick out of a crowd.
 
2013-04-18 01:46:10 PM

Tatsuma: Zulu_as_Kono: No they didn't. Stop lying.

I've just literally posted a screencap on television of the FBI asking for info about them. Me calling them a suspect is an error because the MSM said they were suspects when the FBI described them as Persons of Interest only


Where's your source for the MSM calling them "suspects"? That screen cap isn't it.

What's your strategy once you've wheeled the goalposts out of the endzone, over the cheap seats and across the parking lot?
 
2013-04-18 01:47:40 PM

YodaBlues: The description they had been releasing all day yesterday and still today is two guys, one of which was wearing a backwards white cap, gray/light-colored hoodie, black bag and white.


Does anyone have a pic of whom the FBI are talking about? With all of those photos out there, you would think someone would have posted it on Fark about now.
 
2013-04-18 01:47:47 PM

Tatsuma: Snuffybud: That's a hell of a lot more than the 2 incidents you claimed.

After a quick look, I also said that he was right, it was more than that. I also said in September and October, that three men were shot and three others were assaulted, and the list you posted backs up exactly what I said.


You can't even lie well when you are quoting people, can you?

Sept. 15, 2001
Balbir Singh Sodhi - fatally shot

Sept. 15, 2001
Waqar Hasan - shot to death

Oct. 4
murder of Vasudev Patel

Sept. 29, 2001
Abdo Ali Ahmed - shot to death

That's 4 people murdered in that 2 month period, not just shot, murdered.
 
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