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(Pravda)   The USA is a train on fire, in love with war; so puffed with ignorant, patriotic pride that it is unaware it's careening out of control   (english.pravda.ru) divider line 169
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2013-04-18 11:45:46 AM
heh, yeah we're something else alright.
 
2013-04-18 11:46:37 AM
And when the Russians tell you you're puffed up then you're really puffed up


It ain't ego if it's true
 
2013-04-18 11:49:01 AM
All of that may be true, except the last part. We are quite aware we are careening out of control.

What the rest of the world needs to realize is that when we go flying off the tracks into a mangled heap, we're taking all yall down with us. ;-)
 
2013-04-18 11:49:35 AM
I'm reading the headline in young Jenny's voice as she talks to Forrest
 
2013-04-18 11:50:43 AM
Remember when Pravda was pure Soviet propaganda that no one believed a word of?
 
2013-04-18 11:51:34 AM
Well, if the propaganda wing of the Russian Government says so...

I mean, if you can't trust Pravada.ru, who can you trust?
 
2013-04-18 11:52:38 AM
Sounds like the first lines of a horrible protest song.
 
2013-04-18 11:54:06 AM
Oh, Ric Romeroski, you so funny.
 
2013-04-18 11:55:23 AM
So!? Gonna do sumthin bout it?
 
2013-04-18 12:00:13 PM
It's just easier than dealing with the pain.
 
2013-04-18 12:02:19 PM
No, we're totally aware that we're careening out of control. But thanks for communicating your concern to us.
 
2013-04-18 12:03:42 PM
As if Russia should be criticizing other nations.
 
2013-04-18 12:06:22 PM

gilgigamesh: All of that may be true, except the last part. We are quite aware we are careening out of control.

What the rest of the world needs to realize is that when we go flying off the tracks into a mangled heap, we're taking all yall down with us. ;-)


USA! USA! USA! USA!
 
2013-04-18 12:07:36 PM
Looks like Russia has a case of penis envy.
 
2013-04-18 12:12:43 PM

bdub77: Looks like Russia has a case of penis envy.


With a penis like Putin, they don't need to envy anyone on that account
 
2013-04-18 12:32:39 PM
Say it to my face, Russia.

Yeah, that's what I thought.
 
2013-04-18 12:39:22 PM
This metaphor fails on multiple levels. For one thing, comparing the USA to a train is a lazy, poorly selected image. Trains are not popular in the US; they have the taint of socialism upon them, of mass transit. Just look at the derision heaped upon Obama's proposals to push high-speed rail as an example. A better starting point would have been to say the US is an SUV on fire. Maybe a jumbo jet. I don't know. It's such a bad starting point that it's hard to really imagine fixing it. But, whatever.

Then we get, "so puffed with ignorant, patriotic pride." Well, OK. First of all, back to that stupid train ... how does a train "puff?" And why would this puffing affect the train? Is the puffing happening in spite of the fire, because of the fire, or did it cause the fire? Very confusing. But we've already established that using a train here is dumb, anyway, so, again, whatever. But this pride issue...is the pride ignorant, or patriotic? Because if it's based on patriotism, it's not ignorant, it's patriotism. If it's ignorant, it's ignorant. 

Perhaps the writer meant to imply that the patriotism itself is what's ignorant. I think this likely. However, this structure is not conveyed by simply linking the two terms with a comma, which suggests a separate but equal relationship between the two. Something along the lines of "patriotism couched in ignorance" would have worked much more effectively.

And, now that I think about it, even a couch would have been a better original symbol than a train. Using a couch would have also allowed a swipe at another commonly construed negative quality of Americans, aka their laziness and general fattitude. Yes, it would have been difficult to convey the concept of out-of-control movement with a couch, but I think perhaps this entire metaphor is so ill-advised that it might be best to rethink it from the beginning.

I won't even touch the "careening out of control" thing, since we've already established the stupidity of the train imagery and most halfwits understand that trains, being on tracks, do not generally "careen" anywhere. They derail and crash, but that's not careening.

In short, please revise this insult and resubmit when you feel you have something more appropriate. I'll let you start with the couch and go from there. Don't feel limited to the couch, of course...it's just a suggestion. Go wild.
 
2013-04-18 12:41:14 PM
Well, this seems like a fine, unbiased source of information
 
2013-04-18 12:50:21 PM
Pocket Ninja:  Yes, it would have been difficult to convey the concept of out-of-control movement with a couch, but I think perhaps this entire metaphor is so ill-advised that it might be best to rethink it from the beginning.

This is the sort of ignorance that makes us say DC is out of touch with America.

t2.gstatic.com
 
2013-04-18 12:51:36 PM
From a Russian paper? Pot, kettle...

But yeah, that's been pretty much true since the end of the War of 1812, give or take a bit.
 
2013-04-18 12:53:30 PM
Fun Fact: The reason why the recent asteroid that hit Russia was recorded by so many dashboard cameras in because in Russia, they don't have functioning courts, traffic police or auto insurance, so every driver has to record everything just in case some gypsy jumps in front of their car and then wants a payoff.
 
2013-04-18 12:55:49 PM

tnpir: Say it to my face, Russia.

Yeah, that's what I thought.


Internet tough guy is tough.
 
2013-04-18 01:06:30 PM
The author must have been referring to a couch within a train.  What mode of transportation doesn't have a couch?

I'm on a couch within my car, as I type.
 
2013-04-18 01:14:59 PM
We didn't start the fire.
 
2013-04-18 01:28:47 PM
Jealous Russia is Best Russia
 
2013-04-18 01:30:06 PM
Obvious tag has the day off?

\pot, kettle, etc...
 
2013-04-18 01:32:36 PM
The USA south is a train on fire, in love with war; so puffed with ignorant, patriotic pride that it is unaware it's careening out of control
 
2013-04-18 01:32:43 PM
Have 17,000 american troops really been injured since President Obama was elected? That number sounds like bullshiat.
 
2013-04-18 01:34:37 PM
Cry, cry, cry
It's just you and I
Like an automobile
With no one at the wheel
Spinning out of control
We're all over the road
In our sexy machine
All the passengers scream
Scream, scream!
 
2013-04-18 01:36:13 PM
"America is a whorehouse... where the revolutionary ideals of your forefathers... are corrupted and sold in alleys by vendors of capitalism... "

/get the quote right Pravda!
 
2013-04-18 01:37:23 PM
Enough with these CNN Stories already....
 
2013-04-18 01:38:05 PM
Hey Pravda, knock knock.....

img838.imageshack.us
 
2013-04-18 01:40:01 PM
They aren't wrong.
 
2013-04-18 01:41:25 PM
3.bp.blogspot.com
First off, we've known it for a while now.
Secondly, STFU Russia. It's not like you've done anything useful lately.
...Well, Pussy Riot was kind of cool.
 
2013-04-18 01:43:02 PM
1.bp.blogspot.com

Why don't ya say it to my face, pilgrim.

 
2013-04-18 01:43:54 PM
Hey now, we haven't started a new war in like, 10 years.
 
2013-04-18 01:44:22 PM
Since it came from Pravda.. ie.. the former propaganda arm of the USSR and KGB, this means......
 
2013-04-18 01:47:07 PM
What a bunch of bullcrap.

We're not "in love with war." Sure, we're "friends" with war, and sometimes we fool around with war a little bit when we're both drunk, or when war's boyfriend is being a dick and war wants to get back at him. But not "love."
 
2013-04-18 01:47:23 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Remember when Pravda was pure Soviet propaganda that no one believed a word of?


It still is.  RT is the same thing, I think it branched off of Pravda.
 
2013-04-18 01:47:32 PM
The US, just like Russia, is controlled by oligarchs and monopolies. If Russia has an issue with America, take it up with Wall Street and inside the Beltway.

And leave us peons alone to fight amongst ourselves over the table scraps.
 
2013-04-18 01:47:46 PM
Oh, I have some friends I've GOT to send this to.  It'll fry their hair.
 
2013-04-18 01:48:21 PM
You insult my friend, Ryssä scum.
He is very much aware of his faults.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-04-18 01:48:28 PM
How many times is fark going to green-light links to this America bashing Russian propaganda site?
 
2013-04-18 01:49:29 PM
<i>The USA is a train on fire, in love with war; so puffed with ignorant, patriotic pride that it is unaware it's careening out of control </i>

...said every Pravda article about the US ever.
 
2013-04-18 01:49:34 PM
And do you know who else liked trains?
i1125.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-18 01:50:32 PM
Didn't another Russian commentator predict that by 2010 the US would be split into 6 separate nations?

/ still waiting.
 
2013-04-18 01:52:26 PM

Uranus Is Huge!: The USA south is a train on fire, in love with war; so puffed with ignorant, patriotic pride that it is unaware it's careening out of control


The South isn't the only solid red area that's got its head firmly up its ass. People derr hurr the South, but the West is pretty solidly herpaderp.
 
2013-04-18 01:52:36 PM

ELKAY: Didn't another Russian commentator predict that by 2010 the US would be split into 6 separate nations?

/ still waiting.


I did my part and signed a petition.

/Also waiting
 
2013-04-18 01:53:55 PM

spiderpaz: How many times is fark going to green-light links to this America bashing Russian propaganda site?


It's not propaganda if it's true.
 
2013-04-18 01:55:23 PM

Sensual Tyrannosaurus: Have 17,000 american troops really been injured since President Obama was elected? That number sounds like bullshiat.


Apparently that's the total number of US wounded since we invaded in 2001, BUT the vast majority (~15,000) was since January of 2009:

http://icasualties.org/OEF/USCasualtiesByState.aspx

I will note, though, that the trailing 12-month average has declined since September of 2011, and the year-over-year change has been negative and declining since October of that same year.
 
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