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(NBC News)   With up to 15 people dead and dozens injured, Texas explosion aftermath described as "like a war zone". America hasn't seen scenes like this since...well, since Monday actually, but it's been an unusual week   ( usnews.nbcnews.com) divider line
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2013-04-18 04:47:33 PM  

Mija: It's sad that my first thought when watching the coverage of the explosion was to wonder how many of the injured vote Republican. I wondered how many are uninsured and will be ruined by and biatching about medical bills when they consistently vote against healthcare for others. I wonder if the burn unit takes bootstraps as payment. They will get a big shock when follow up care and physical therapy aren't provided free of charge by the Emergency Room.


If they are like most of those in Texas that do not have healthcare insurance, they simply do not understand the point. The Hispanic culture particularly is wary of this concept. You have people that won't use a bank and keep cash under their mattresses. Yes, in rural areas they cannot afford it, but the majority of people - at least where I am from in Texas, don't believe or see a need for it. We are talking about people whose primary form of medicine is "toughing it out." Granted this is a sweeping generalization, but it is far from a bunch of bootstrappy people-who have fallen on hard times-and simply cannot afford health insurance.
 
2013-04-18 06:08:52 PM  

JustGetItRight: spelletrader: If the company had done the right thing those fire fighters would have been assisting in the evacuation instead of fighting the fire.

Fire fighters know to never fight a fire when explosive material is involved. They were not adequately informed of the danger and the company is directly (and willfully) responsible for those casualties.

Nice troll.

The town mayor, who is one of the firefighters that responded, said they were evacuating people when it blew.


How was anything that I posted even remotely trolling?

Of course they were evacuating, they were also fighting that fire with no apparent knowledge of the possibility or severity of potential explosion. That is certainly not their own fault, the company that owns and operates the plant should have clearly communicated the possible danger long before this incident occurred.
 
2013-04-18 06:59:24 PM  

spelletrader: JustGetItRight: spelletrader: If the company had done the right thing those fire fighters would have been assisting in the evacuation instead of fighting the fire.

Fire fighters know to never fight a fire when explosive material is involved. They were not adequately informed of the danger and the company is directly (and willfully) responsible for those casualties.

Nice troll.

The town mayor, who is one of the firefighters that responded, said they were evacuating people when it blew.

How was anything that I posted even remotely trolling?

Of course they were evacuating, they were also fighting that fire with no apparent knowledge of the possibility or severity of potential explosion. That is certainly not their own fault, the company that owns and operates the plant should have clearly communicated the possible danger long before this incident occurred.


Apparently there were no sprinklers, even though they are required in Texas.  This is going to create a fiasco well beyond the boundaries of West.  TCEQ is widely known for its lethargy and corruption, but now they've possibly killed a bunch of first responders.
 
2013-04-18 07:04:42 PM  
Texas City was a huge explosion but Halifax was larger and had a worse outcome for the nearby residents. Why you would argue this is beyond me, lern2data.
 
2013-04-18 07:17:46 PM  
For any of the Brother Farkers, it looks like the SR body in Waco is asking for help. The GL has responded, but there's still some Brothers in trouble.

I'm sending some cash their way- all I can do.
 
2013-04-18 09:11:24 PM  

TheDirtyNacho: spelletrader: JustGetItRight: spelletrader: If the company had done the right thing those fire fighters would have been assisting in the evacuation instead of fighting the fire.

Fire fighters know to never fight a fire when explosive material is involved. They were not adequately informed of the danger and the company is directly (and willfully) responsible for those casualties.

Nice troll.

The town mayor, who is one of the firefighters that responded, said they were evacuating people when it blew.

How was anything that I posted even remotely trolling?

Of course they were evacuating, they were also fighting that fire with no apparent knowledge of the possibility or severity of potential explosion. That is certainly not their own fault, the company that owns and operates the plant should have clearly communicated the possible danger long before this incident occurred.

Apparently there were no sprinklers, even though they are required in Texas.  This is going to create a fiasco well beyond the boundaries of West.  TCEQ is widely known for its lethargy and corruption, but now they've possibly killed a bunch of first responders.


The Governor, Lege, and AG of Texas have been fighting tooth, claw, and nail since January 20th, 2009 to declare the EPA null and void in Texas and give all industrial regulation authority over to the TCEQ. And the TCEQ is a corrupt rubber-stamp agency staffed by Oil & Gas company cronies, surprise, surprise, surprise. But the rural voters of Texas will blindly ignore the facts of this tragedy and continue voting for the GOP because socialism. If you elect people who believe that the government can only do bad, then your government will only do bad.
 
2013-04-18 09:15:05 PM  
Things blowing up seems to be a recurring theme.....Lived a few miles from where this happened when I was a kid.
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2013-04-18 11:15:41 PM  

Texian: TheDirtyNacho: spelletrader: JustGetItRight: spelletrader: If the company had done the right thing those fire fighters would have been assisting in the evacuation instead of fighting the fire.

Fire fighters know to never fight a fire when explosive material is involved. They were not adequately informed of the danger and the company is directly (and willfully) responsible for those casualties.

Nice troll.

The town mayor, who is one of the firefighters that responded, said they were evacuating people when it blew.
How was anything that I posted even remotely trolling?

Of course they were evacuating, they were also fighting that fire with no apparent knowledge of the possibility or severity of potential explosion. That is certainly not their own fault, the company that owns and operates the plant should have clearly communicated the possible danger long before this incident occurred.

Apparently there were no sprinklers, even though they are required in Texas.  This is going to create a fiasco well beyond the boundaries of West.  TCEQ is widely known for its lethargy and corruption, but now they've possibly killed a bunch of first responders.

The Governor, Lege, and AG of Texas have been fighting tooth, claw, and nail since January 20th, 2009 to declare the EPA null and void in Texas and give all industrial regulation authority over to the TCEQ. And the TCEQ is a corrupt rubber-stamp agency staffed by Oil & Gas company cronies, surprise, surprise, surprise. But the rural voters of Texas will blindly ignore the facts of this tragedy and continue voting for the GOP because socialism. If you elect people who believe that the government can only do bad, then your government will only do bad.


I'm probably being too optimistic, but this could be what sinks Perry and his cronies once and for all.  It's one thing to ignore air quality standards, which is terrible but a hard thing to keep in people's minds, but its another to have honest blood on their hands.  The only thing TCEQ ever fined this plant for was "too much smell".  There is no excuse for it to not have a sprinkler system and for them to look the other way.  I hope the feds open a damning investigation, and I believe they may in fact do so.  TCEQ has contributed, if not outright culpable for, this tragedy.
 
2013-04-18 11:57:57 PM  

revman64: Hope the friendly folks at the Little Czech Stop and Bakery are okay. Great place to stop for a snack on the way though central Texas.


According to Mother Jones, Czech Stop survived the blast and in fact remained open throughout the ordeal.

Other updates:

Death toll now at 35, including 10 first responders.

The fertilizer plant has not had a complaint since 2006, which means that it has not been inspected since 2006.

In February, a fire at the plant caused a temporary evacuation of West Intermediary School.
 
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