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(Yahoo)   Saudi national the New York Post deemed a "person of interest" in Boston marathon bombing, but was cleared, will be deported for "national security reasons". Thanks, Rupert   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 132
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2013-04-18 11:35:01 AM

GAT_00: It doesn't matter that this doesn't appear at the moment to be foreign terrorism.



Based on what?

How many domestic terrorists have used pressure cookers as part of the bomb design?
 
2013-04-18 11:44:25 AM

PacificaFitz: So Hannity is just a conspiracy theorist at this point?


Hannity is Göbbels' red-headed stepchild. Nothing more, nothing less.
 
2013-04-18 11:54:55 AM

Giltric: GAT_00: It doesn't matter that this doesn't appear at the moment to be foreign terrorism.


Based on what?

How many domestic terrorists have used pressure cookers as part of the bomb design?


Based on a lack of evidence that says if it is foreign or domestic terrorism.
 
2013-04-18 11:56:23 AM

Summoner101: Yes, most of the hijackers were Saudis. We then went to war with Afghanistan and Iraq.


Well how else were we going to send a message to the Saudis if not by making an example of those other two countries?
 
2013-04-18 12:00:42 PM

Giltric: GAT_00: It doesn't matter that this doesn't appear at the moment to be foreign terrorism.


Based on what?

How many domestic terrorists have used pressure cookers as part of the bomb design?


Based on our massive database of how many completely domestic homegrown non-foreign influenced terrorists?

What do KNOW is designs for pressure cooker bombs were on the internet since there's BEEN an internet, as part of soldier of fortune type guides, including that staple of every teenage boy and young adult in the early 90's, the Anarchist Handbook (1971).  It's amazing to me, how fast we've turned into a nation afraid of letting boys discover what things can do by almost killing themselves.  I'm 33, and I don't think there was a single boy in my 7th grade class that hadn't at some point built some kind of makeshift molotov cocktail or pipe bomb.

Now we're acting like it's conclusive evidence of foreign terrorism that a pressure cooker bomb was used, when that's kind of a standard way of doing it.
 
2013-04-18 12:03:28 PM
Hey, submoronmitter, if the sources cited in your submission include Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck, step back from your keyboard and mouse and DIAF.
 
2013-04-18 12:06:45 PM

Giltric: GAT_00: It doesn't matter that this doesn't appear at the moment to be foreign terrorism.


Based on what?

How many domestic terrorists have used pressure cookers as part of the bomb design?


The anarchist cookbook has been in publication since 1971 and it outlines how to make a pressure cooker bomb.
 
2013-04-18 12:09:21 PM

Giltric: GAT_00: It doesn't matter that this doesn't appear at the moment to be foreign terrorism.


Based on what?

How many domestic terrorists have used pressure cookers as part of the bomb design?


Foreign terrorist organizations claim responsibility for attacks. It's a large part of their marketing strategy to attract members and funding. Not claiming responsibility is both out of line and contrary to their goals.
 
2013-04-18 12:09:24 PM

Mr Guy: Giltric: GAT_00: It doesn't matter that this doesn't appear at the moment to be foreign terrorism.


Based on what?

How many domestic terrorists have used pressure cookers as part of the bomb design?

Based on our massive database of how many completely domestic homegrown non-foreign influenced terrorists?

What do KNOW is designs for pressure cooker bombs were on the internet since there's BEEN an internet, as part of soldier of fortune type guides, including that staple of every teenage boy and young adult in the early 90's, the Anarchist Handbook (1971).  It's amazing to me, how fast we've turned into a nation afraid of letting boys discover what things can do by almost killing themselves.  I'm 33, and I don't think there was a single boy in my 7th grade class that hadn't at some point built some kind of makeshift molotov cocktail or pipe bomb.

Now we're acting like it's conclusive evidence of foreign terrorism that a pressure cooker bomb was used, when that's kind of a standard way of doing it.


Something thats been easily accessable for decades and which was available in print form for decades before that....yet there have been how many attacks using this type of design from domestic non foreign influenced homegrown terrorists?
 
2013-04-18 12:12:33 PM

James!: Giltric: GAT_00: It doesn't matter that this doesn't appear at the moment to be foreign terrorism.


Based on what?

How many domestic terrorists have used pressure cookers as part of the bomb design?

The anarchist cookbook has been in publication since 1971 and it outlines how to make a pressure cooker bomb.


It's funny how quick everyone misinterpreted that.  I was saying we couldn't say it was foreign or domestic terrorism at this point, which is why the conservatives jumping to blame Muslims is completely wrong.  Probably also misdirect/CYA stuff because they're worried it might be domestic terrorism, which historically has almost always been conservative actors.
 
2013-04-18 12:15:17 PM

GAT_00: It doesn't matter that this doesn't appear at the moment to be foreign terrorism.  Conservatives prefer to hip-check blame Muslims when something happens.




And others like to go for 2 on a specific innatimate object whenever violence occurs.
 
2013-04-18 12:15:22 PM

netweavr: Giltric: GAT_00: It doesn't matter that this doesn't appear at the moment to be foreign terrorism.


Based on what?

How many domestic terrorists have used pressure cookers as part of the bomb design?

Foreign terrorist organizations claim responsibility for attacks. It's a large part of their marketing strategy to attract members and funding. Not claiming responsibility is both out of line and contrary to their goals.


Yeah maybe some backwater jungle group that nobody has ever heard of before.....but do major terrorist organizations really need to advertise? Are they having trouble raising funds from wealthy ideological donors in oil rich nations. Do they really want the attention it would bring them in the form of green eyed men with black rifles or a drone strike?

AQ didn't make a claim to perpetrating 9-11 until we were already in A-stan bombing the Kush.
 
2013-04-18 12:21:57 PM
Onkel buck:  Good! That means we have room for one more illegal Mexican.

I'd take a Mexican over a Saudi any day.
 
2013-04-18 12:28:53 PM

Giltric: netweavr: Giltric: GAT_00: It doesn't matter that this doesn't appear at the moment to be foreign terrorism.


Based on what?

How many domestic terrorists have used pressure cookers as part of the bomb design?

Foreign terrorist organizations claim responsibility for attacks. It's a large part of their marketing strategy to attract members and funding. Not claiming responsibility is both out of line and contrary to their goals.

Yeah maybe some backwater jungle group that nobody has ever heard of before.....but do major terrorist organizations really need to advertise? Are they having trouble raising funds from wealthy ideological donors in oil rich nations. Do they really want the attention it would bring them in the form of green eyed men with black rifles or a drone strike?

AQ didn't make a claim to perpetrating 9-11 until we were already in A-stan bombing the Kush.




The chatter is being watched.

Feels like growing up wondering what it would be like to live in Ireland during a certain period.
 
2013-04-18 12:32:13 PM

GAT_00: James!: Giltric: GAT_00: It doesn't matter that this doesn't appear at the moment to be foreign terrorism.


Based on what?

How many domestic terrorists have used pressure cookers as part of the bomb design?

The anarchist cookbook has been in publication since 1971 and it outlines how to make a pressure cooker bomb.

It's funny how quick everyone misinterpreted that.  I was saying we couldn't say it was foreign or domestic terrorism at this point, which is why the conservatives jumping to blame Muslims is completely wrong.  Probably also misdirect/CYA stuff because they're worried it might be domestic terrorism, which historically has almost always been conservative actors.


That would be pretty easy to do....compare conservative actors like army of god, and eric rudolph type abortion bombers with left leaning actors who have used bombs.

Do you have a tally?
 
2013-04-18 12:40:41 PM
We don't know who did it yet.  Apparently there are persons of interest which may or may not end up becoming suspects.  Personally, I won't be surprised if we find out it was some ant-tax right wing nut given it was April 15:  Tax Day, and in Massachusetts, Patriots' Day.  However, I do not know if this is indeed the case or not yet.


Also, as soon as I saw "The Blaze," I dismissed a lot of the "reporting" in this so-called article.
 
2013-04-18 01:00:30 PM

GAT_00: Giltric: GAT_00: It doesn't matter that this doesn't appear at the moment to be foreign terrorism.


Based on what?

How many domestic terrorists have used pressure cookers as part of the bomb design?

Based on a lack of evidence that says if it is foreign or domestic terrorism.


But GAT,  isn't it also true that "It doesn't matter that this doesn't appear at the moment to be foreign Domestic terrorism"  ,  "Based on a lack of evidence that says if it is foreign or domestic terrorism."?

 
2013-04-18 01:22:23 PM

MyRandomName: Liberals are already in the find a way to attack conservatives about the bombings phase. Political exploitation aka not letting a crisis go to waste on deck. Quite a few already blaming sequester.


Wow.

You really will say whatever pops into your head, won't you?
 
2013-04-18 01:25:57 PM

Giltric: Now we're acting like it's conclusive evidence of foreign terrorism that a pressure cooker bomb was used, when that's kind of a standard way of doing it.

Something thats been easily accessable for decades and which was available in print form for decades before that....yet there have been how many attacks using this type of design from domestic non foreign influenced homegrown terrorists?


My point is we have a very short list of terrorist incidents in our country's entire history: http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/terrorism/wrjp255a.html

There's almost no consistency on it, so there's not enough datapoints to indicate what a domestic terrorist is more or less likely to do, other than the basic observation than many people who want to kill someone in the US choose to just follow them home and shoot them there or burns their place down, as opposed to doing it messily in public.
 
2013-04-18 01:37:17 PM

SirEattonHogg: Onkel buck:  Good! That means we have room for one more illegal Mexican.

I'd take a Mexican over a Saudi any day.


Me too, but Mexican gives me terrible heartburn
 
2013-04-18 01:37:47 PM

AugieDoggyDaddy: GAT_00: Giltric: GAT_00: It doesn't matter that this doesn't appear at the moment to be foreign terrorism.


Based on what?

How many domestic terrorists have used pressure cookers as part of the bomb design?

Based on a lack of evidence that says if it is foreign or domestic terrorism.

But GAT,  isn't it also true that "It doesn't matter that this doesn't appear at the moment to be foreign Domestic terrorism"  ,  "Based on a lack of evidence that says if it is foreign or domestic terrorism."?


Try scrolling down.

Giltric: Do you have a tally?


I remember seeing someone post one recently.  In the 70 cases recently where someone tried to obtain explosives in the US, 40 or so were right wing groups, 20 or so were Islamic terrorists, and the remainder were split between a couple of different groups, including 1 environmental terrorist.
 
2013-04-18 01:38:06 PM

BunkoSquad: SlothB77: you have to copy the url and paste it in your browser to pull up the comments page i am trying to link to.

Yeah, I read that comment page for 2 minutes and it's like watching people try to play Clue while being hit in the head with 2-by-4s.


There were multiple problems with the crowdsourced investigation, other than most people involved being retards and having never conducted any such similar investigation or having any professional investigative experience whatsoever.

1. The evidence made public by the FBI was complete shiat quality.  Here the FBI is asking for help, and they gave us one still image of the blown backpack, that isn't available at better than 600x400 resolution?  Really?  How about you take 20 high quality pictures and closeups of it and show us? Then we can help identify the exact make/model of the backup, and then start scouring the crowd for people with that make/model backup.

2. The Internet was treating the range of "evidence" available online as being the only evidence.  Just because we had 500 photos of the bomb site prior to the bomb going off, doesn't mean the bomber HAS to be in any of those photos.  At all.
 
2013-04-18 01:55:37 PM

airsupport: He is guilty, but related to a prominent, oil-rich family.

Bet you a dollar.

Better yet, I'll bet you $9.11


My guess, if there's actually any truth to the story at all, is that he overstayed his student visa and/or flunked out of school but kept collecting his subsidy from the gubmint back home.  And there's no actual 'national security' interest anywhere near him, except for maybe having a prominent family back home.
 
2013-04-18 01:57:41 PM

GAT_00: AugieDoggyDaddy: GAT_00: Giltric: GAT_00: It doesn't matter that this doesn't appear at the moment to be foreign terrorism.


Based on what?

How many domestic terrorists have used pressure cookers as part of the bomb design?

Based on a lack of evidence that says if it is foreign or domestic terrorism.

But GAT,  isn't it also true that "It doesn't matter that this doesn't appear at the moment to be foreign Domestic terrorism"  ,  "Based on a lack of evidence that says if it is foreign or domestic terrorism."?

Try scrolling down.

Giltric: Do you have a tally?

I remember seeing someone post one recently.  In the 70 cases recently where someone tried to obtain explosives in the US, 40 or so were right wing groups, 20 or so were Islamic terrorists, and the remainder were split between a couple of different groups, including 1 environmental terrorist.


Design of an anti-personnel device/bomb is usually connected to a profile or part of the actors fingerprint....
 
2013-04-18 02:13:09 PM

Sliding Carp: airsupport: He is guilty, but related to a prominent, oil-rich family.

Bet you a dollar.

Better yet, I'll bet you $9.11

My guess, if there's actually any truth to the story at all, is that he overstayed his student visa and/or flunked out of school but kept collecting his subsidy from the gubmint back home.  And there's no actual 'national security' interest anywhere near him, except for maybe having a prominent family back home.


You would not BELIEVE how much weed they found in his apartment.  The police returned to the station with literally dozens of bags of it, and checked the single bag into evidence.  At his trial, the prosecution will have ounces of evidence to demonstrate, perhaps even enough for a one hitter.
 
2013-04-18 02:50:06 PM
Confidential source?

i14.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-18 02:50:23 PM

FC Exile: [t2.gstatic.com image 219x230]

JESUS. Suck cak much?


static.filmannex.com

Not lately.
 
2013-04-18 02:53:37 PM
UPDATE III:
TheBlaze Chief Content Officer Joel Cheatwood reported on "The Glenn Beck Program" Thursday morning that TheBlaze has been informed that the government is now considering not deporting Abdul Rahman Ali Alharbi.

What a surprise! Glenn Beck was wrong!

And Joel Cheatwood is now working for Glenn Beck? My how far he's fallen from his days working a news department at a TV station in Miami.
 
2013-04-18 03:32:11 PM
I have it on good authority that a man of Middle Eastern descent named Benjamin Gazi is a person of interest in this bombing.
 
2013-04-18 04:16:45 PM

MFK: SlothB77: the NYPost is already on to two other dark-skinned young males, the blue tracksuit guy and his friend in the white hat, who are persons of interest, but not the actual bombers.

http://www.reddit.com/r/findbostonbombers/comments/1cl3cj/blue_track su it_guy_identifiedends_up_being_a/

if you click the link, it redirects to a photo.  you have to copy the url and paste it in your browser to pull up the comments page i am trying to link to.

People have found blue tracksuit guy's facebook page and apparently it is a SHOW.

these two guys are locals. They are running enthusiasts, not terrorists. One of them coaches little kids. Truly they are monstors. This is the problem with crowd sourcing this shiat. Instead of working together to look for clues, people just do a where's waldo with the brown guys in the picture and then go on a witch hunt. Reddit and 4chan should be ashamed of themselves - they just created two more victims.


So when Reddit/4chan was "investigating" who the blue fleece white guy was it was fine? If you took your head out of the dark insides of your butt you'd see that the people they were looking at were all standing VERY close to, if not on top, of the spot the bomb went off. One of them also happens to have large black bag like the photo of the bag from the FBI, that is suddenly not visible AFTER they were standing on or near the spot where the bomb went off. It wasn't like people from reddit and 4chan just picked some random brown person out from a picture of some random place in the crowd and said "that guy."

And while a few posts that I've seen are just "look at this guy." I have none that are racially based (until the FBI said we're looking for a "white guy" as a POI).

I'm sorry that you can't deal with the reality of life (because even the FBI at one point wanted to talk to these guy) but if you insist on falling on your sword of internet justice to defend people do it for the right reason and not because you're offended that they could ever accuse someone that's not white.

BTW the right reason is that they could be innocent, not that they could be of non-European ethnicity.
 
2013-04-18 04:44:19 PM
This is just shameful and none of the asswits responsible will feel any.
 
2013-04-18 08:04:23 PM
FTFA: UPDATE 4:10 -- Immigrations and Customs Enforcement responded to TheBlaze's report on Al Alharbi, calling it "categorically false.
 
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