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2013-04-18 08:30:44 AM
I'm thinking it's more along the lines of "So he doesn't get his ass beat" reasons.
 
2013-04-18 08:31:45 AM
Yeah, to keep him secure from our nation.
 
2013-04-18 08:33:42 AM
Great, more fodder for conspiracy theorists.
 
2013-04-18 08:36:01 AM
Because if he didn't have issues with America before, he probably will now.
 
2013-04-18 08:38:55 AM
i.imgur.com

R.I.P. RUPERT THE FROG SONG

 
2013-04-18 08:51:55 AM
FTFA: the Investigative Project on Terrorism's Steve Emerson...based his information on a number of his confidential sources. "I just learned from my own sources that he is now going to be deported on national security grounds next Tuesday," Emerson said.

i.imgur.com

I wouldn't trust anything Steve Emerson says without open sources to back him up. He's a major self-styled "terrorism expert" with lots of foundation money to back him up and no real training or expertise. His organization was profiled in "Fear, Inc."
 
2013-04-18 08:53:40 AM
By the way, I happened to have our local right wing nut on the radio this morning (Quinn and Rose, they are in syndication now), and he was going on about how this is just like Oklahoma City, where they had an Arab connection that they went out of their way to downplay.  This is most definitely going to be part of most ensuing conspiracy theories.  Take it to the bank.
 
2013-04-18 08:53:55 AM
So Hannity is just a conspiracy theorist at this point?
 
2013-04-18 08:54:53 AM
Also, notice that at least "Yahoo News" has given its readers the courtesy of identifying the article's author as working with "The Blaze."
 
2013-04-18 08:56:08 AM
Stewie unavailable for comment.
 
2013-04-18 08:56:18 AM
F*ck Hannity with a rusty pitch fork
 
2013-04-18 08:56:23 AM
Some jackwagon with unconfirmed "sources" on Hannity?

Sounds legit.
 
2013-04-18 08:57:10 AM
His crimes are "being swarthy in a non-swarthy zone", "loitering in an ethnic fashion", and "jaywalking like an Egyptian".
 
2013-04-18 08:57:20 AM

nekom: Quinn and Rose


Makes me long for the days of Quinn and Banana on B-94 FM.
 
2013-04-18 08:58:16 AM
here to help

Some jackwagon with unconfirmed "sources" on Hannity?

Sounds legit.

F*cking Bill Cunningham will probably be crowing about this on his radio show today. I swear these two dudes are gay lovers


NTTAWWT
 
2013-04-18 08:58:42 AM
so this means the marathon suspect is indeed a tea party/right wing wacko and some powerful republicans have made sure this guy gets deported to create a conspiracy to cover up the conspiracy!!!!
 
2013-04-18 09:00:27 AM
"the Investigative Project on Terrorism"

The hell is the Investigative Project on Terrorism.
 
2013-04-18 09:00:53 AM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: nekom: Quinn and Rose

Makes me long for the days of Quinn and Banana on B-94 FM.


In the morning... In the morning. Can't believe I still remember that jingle.

Weren't Rush and Beck former DJ's as well? Seems to be a popular pre-right wing talk show host career.
 
2013-04-18 09:01:31 AM
Why are people playing up the Saudi angle? We are not going to go to war with Saudi Arabia.
 
2013-04-18 09:02:06 AM
Maybe we have to deport him because he's really good looking
 
2013-04-18 09:02:57 AM
Probably because oil
 
2013-04-18 09:03:22 AM

Summoner101: Why are people playing up the Saudi angle? We are not going to go to war with Saudi Arabia.


What, 17 of the 19 9/11 hijackers were Saudi. It's not as if it's inconceivable that a Saudi national would be behind a terrorist attack. Just doesn't appear that this one was, seems he was more a victim of being brown in the wrong place at the wrong time.
 
2013-04-18 09:04:47 AM

Summoner101: Why are people playing up the Saudi angle? We are not going to go to war with Saudi Arabia.


I think you just answered your own question
 
2013-04-18 09:07:04 AM

nekom: What, 17 of the 19 9/11 hijackers were Saudi. It's not as if it's inconceivable that a Saudi national would be behind a terrorist attack


I think the point is, after the bombings, their ambassador could have confessed to the crime, planted a Saudi flag at the scene, and pumped his chest for ten minutes and we still wouldn't attack them. Too much money and too many powerful friends.
 
2013-04-18 09:07:24 AM
Good! That means we have room for one more illegal Mexican.
 
2013-04-18 09:07:41 AM
Wild theory time,  he was actually wanted by the Saudi's for some reason, they asked for him to be deported, the State department said "sure he is not a citizen we can skip the due process for you guys."
 
2013-04-18 09:07:52 AM

BunkoSquad: nekom: What, 17 of the 19 9/11 hijackers were Saudi. It's not as if it's inconceivable that a Saudi national would be behind a terrorist attack

I think the point is, after the bombings, their ambassador could have confessed to the crime, planted a Saudi flag at the scene, and pumped his chest for ten minutes and we still wouldn't attack them. Too much money and too many powerful friends.


True, but we most definitely WOULD prosecute him if he had anything to do with it. We're not going to be going to war with ANYONE over this.
 
2013-04-18 09:08:08 AM

FunkOut: His crimes are "being swarthy in a non-swarthy zone", "loitering in an ethnic fashion", and "jaywalking like an Egyptian".


you reminded me of this  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5dy9URkLFI
 
2013-04-18 09:08:23 AM
That's just one less media lynching they have to deal with.
 
2013-04-18 09:10:18 AM

nekom: Summoner101: Why are people playing up the Saudi angle? We are not going to go to war with Saudi Arabia.

What, 17 of the 19 9/11 hijackers were Saudi. It's not as if it's inconceivable that a Saudi national would be behind a terrorist attack. Just doesn't appear that this one was, seems he was more a victim of being brown in the wrong place at the wrong time.


The inconceivable part is ever going to war with Saudi Arabia.
 
2013-04-18 09:11:05 AM
the NYPost is already on to two other dark-skinned young males, the blue tracksuit guy and his friend in the white hat, who are persons of interest, but not the actual bombers.

http://www.reddit.com/r/findbostonbombers/comments/1cl3cj/blue_track su it_guy_identifiedends_up_being_a/

if you click the link, it redirects to a photo.  you have to copy the url and paste it in your browser to pull up the comments page i am trying to link to.

People have found blue tracksuit guy's facebook page and apparently it is a SHOW.
 
2013-04-18 09:12:23 AM
Because Rupert owns CNN.
 
2013-04-18 09:13:13 AM

SlothB77: you have to copy the url and paste it in your browser to pull up the comments page i am trying to link to.


Yeah, I read that comment page for 2 minutes and it's like watching people try to play Clue while being hit in the head with 2-by-4s.
 
2013-04-18 09:15:26 AM

kbronsito: Maybe we have to deport him because he's really good looking


He should seek asylum on those grounds -- he's a persecuted minority in his homeland!
 
MFK
2013-04-18 09:16:22 AM

SlothB77: the NYPost is already on to two other dark-skinned young males, the blue tracksuit guy and his friend in the white hat, who are persons of interest, but not the actual bombers.

http://www.reddit.com/r/findbostonbombers/comments/1cl3cj/blue_track su it_guy_identifiedends_up_being_a/

if you click the link, it redirects to a photo.  you have to copy the url and paste it in your browser to pull up the comments page i am trying to link to.

People have found blue tracksuit guy's facebook page and apparently it is a SHOW.


these two guys are locals. They are running enthusiasts, not terrorists. One of them coaches little kids. Truly they are monstors. This is the problem with crowd sourcing this shiat. Instead of working together to look for clues, people just do a where's waldo with the brown guys in the picture and then go on a witch hunt. Reddit and 4chan should be ashamed of themselves - they just created two more victims.
 
2013-04-18 09:17:30 AM

nekom: Summoner101: Why are people playing up the Saudi angle? We are not going to go to war with Saudi Arabia.

What, 17 of the 19 9/11 hijackers were Saudi. It's not as if it's inconceivable that a Saudi national would be behind a terrorist attack. Just doesn't appear that this one was, seems he was more a victim of being brown in the wrong place at the wrong time.


Yes, most of the hijackers were Saudis. We then went to war with Afghanistan and Iraq.
 
2013-04-18 09:18:59 AM
I'll trust this when someone worthy of trust says it.
 
2013-04-18 09:20:07 AM
So the guy who was arrested, then not arrested, then a suspect, then not a suspect, then a person of interest, then a victim is being deported?  When do we get the "not being deported" update?
 
2013-04-18 09:20:30 AM

BunkoSquad: Yeah, I read that comment page for 2 minutes and it's like watching people try to play Clue while being hit in the head with 2-by-4s.


pretty much:

[-]utahphil 27 points 8 hours ago
Poor dude.
Sorry for doubting you and your white hatted buddy.
[-]nicolaosq 7 points 8 hours ago
Are we sure that's his buddy?
[-]utahphil 10 points 8 hours ago
Im pretty sure it was is track coach. No sauce on this one as it was from FB.
You will have to trust me.
[-]ropiatesthrowaway 3 points 8 hours ago
I just looked at his FB and the FB groups where he has been posting.. Don't see anything about it being his track coach
[-]illmore0604[S] 19 points 8 hours ago
He's just a high school kid that loves track. Supposedly, he wasn't even with the white hat dude and doesn't know him
[-]x2501x 11 points 8 hours ago
Someone elsewhere said white hat guy is his running coach.
[-]Aregular89 6 points 8 hours ago
This guy posted on white hat dude's facebook and he was his running coach. No, I'm not posting the link.
[-]ReeG 10 points 8 hours ago
he's seen with white hat dude in a few photos, are you sure he doesn't know him at all?
Without giving too much away the blue tracksuit guy called him his coach on a comment.
[-]ropiatesthrowaway 1 point 8 hours ago
Hm must have not been on his fb, but another group hes been posting on or something that I havent seen
[-]ReeG 2 points 8 hours ago
are we sure the white hat guy with the back pack is the same white hat guy without one?
[-]nicolaosq 3 points 8 hours ago
No. We are not.
 
2013-04-18 09:21:26 AM

SlothB77: the NYPost is already on to two other dark-skinned young males, the blue tracksuit guy and his friend in the white hat, who are persons of interest, but not the actual bombers.

http://www.reddit.com/r/findbostonbombers/comments/1cl3cj/blue_track su it_guy_identifiedends_up_being_a/

if you click the link, it redirects to a photo.  you have to copy the url and paste it in your browser to pull up the comments page i am trying to link to.

People have found blue tracksuit guy's facebook page and apparently it is a SHOW.


Is that even the same white hat guy in both those pictures?  He's wearing a different shirt.
 
2013-04-18 09:22:32 AM

wickedragon: I'll trust this when someone worthy of trust says it.


encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com
 
2013-04-18 09:23:42 AM

Bondith: So the guy who was arrested, then not arrested, then a suspect, then not a suspect, then a person of interest, then a victim is being deported?  When do we get the "not being deported" update?


Depends on which news agency you read. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if CNN confirmed that he was involved in the attempt on Pope John Paul II's life. American media is really showing the world how awful they really are these days.
 
2013-04-18 09:23:44 AM
He is guilty, but related to a prominent, oil-rich family.

Bet you a dollar.

Better yet, I'll bet you $9.11
 
2013-04-18 09:24:21 AM
Tough luck. You're only illegal if you get almost killed by a bomb.
 
2013-04-18 09:24:43 AM

Somacandra: FTFA: the Investigative Project on Terrorism's Steve Emerson...based his information on a number of his confidential sources. "I just learned from my own sources that he is now going to be deported on national security grounds next Tuesday," Emerson said.

i.imgur.com

I wouldn't trust anything Steve Emerson says without open sources to back him up. He's a major self-styled "terrorism expert" with lots of foundation money to back him up and no real training or expertise. His organization was profiled in "Fear, Inc."


His expertise apparently is in NAMBLA.but that just doesn't sell these days.
 
2013-04-18 09:25:00 AM

SlothB77: People have found blue tracksuit guy's facebook page and apparently it is a SHOW.


What, like Modern Family or the Simpsons?

WTF does that word mean in that context?
 
2013-04-18 09:27:20 AM

airsupport: WTF does that word mean in that context?


Disaster, debacle, ridiculous, fiasco, etc.
 
2013-04-18 09:28:36 AM
Liberals are already in the find a way to attack conservatives about the bombings phase. Political exploitation aka not letting a crisis go to waste on deck. Quite a few already blaming sequester.
 
2013-04-18 09:29:37 AM

doublesecretprobation: so this means the marathon suspect is indeed a tea party/right wing wacko and some powerful republicans have made sure this guy gets deported to create a conspiracy to cover up the conspiracy!!!!


No, it means that the libby libs did it to make it look like the marathon suspect is indeed a tea party/right wing wacko and some powerful republicans etc.

FALSE FLAG! FALSE FLAG!
 
2013-04-18 09:30:00 AM
Every time I hear or read the words "national security reasons" I immediately substitute "the fact that we don't need a sound rationale to do whatever the fark we want."
 
2013-04-18 09:30:10 AM

Somacandra: FTFA: the Investigative Project on Terrorism's Steve Emerson...based his information on a number of his confidential sources. "I just learned from my own sources that he is now going to be deported on national security grounds next Tuesday," Emerson said.

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I wouldn't trust anything Steve Emerson says without open sources to back him up. He's a major self-styled "terrorism expert" with lots of foundation money to back him up and no real training or expertise. His organization was profiled in "Fear, Inc."


He has been studying terrorist organizations for 20 years. He runs the largest private counterterrorism think tank in the United States. Name an organization inside the US that doesn't work for uncle sam that has more expertise than that?

BTW, "national security grounds" probably means he is in the country on an expired visa. Not really worth commenting on.
 
2013-04-18 09:30:49 AM

BitwiseShift: Somacandra: FTFA: the Investigative Project on Terrorism's Steve Emerson...based his information on a number of his confidential sources. "I just learned from my own sources that he is now going to be deported on national security grounds next Tuesday," Emerson said.
[i.imgur.com image 200x140]
I wouldn't trust anything Steve Emerson says without open sources to back him up. He's a major self-styled "terrorism expert" with lots of foundation money to back him up and no real training or expertise. His organization was profiled in "Fear, Inc."
His expertise apparently is in NAMBLA.but that just doesn't sell these days.


No, nor do self done facial chemical peels apparently.
 
2013-04-18 09:33:14 AM

Zugswang: Every time I hear or read the words "national security reasons" I immediately substitute "the fact that we don't need a sound rationale to do whatever the fark we want."


"We need to cover our ass and you don't need to know why"
 
2013-04-18 09:34:16 AM
Do people really think we would catch the guy responsible for this and just let him go because the President is a democrat. I mean you'd have to keep hundreds of people quite about it. It's not even close to plausible.
 
2013-04-18 09:38:56 AM
You notice that at the end of the article they say that Emerson's claims have not been verified? And also Emerson says that this is according to his sources. I wonder if his source is Pam Geller.
 
2013-04-18 09:42:36 AM

MyRandomName: Liberals are already in the find a way to attack conservatives about the bombings phase. Political exploitation aka not letting a crisis go to waste on deck. Quite a few already blaming sequester.


I've heard the right-wing media say that stuff too.
 
2013-04-18 09:43:19 AM

MyRandomName: Liberals are already in the find a way to attack conservatives about the bombings phase. Political exploitation aka not letting a crisis go to waste on deck. Quite a few already blaming sequester.


You are the real victim here.
 
2013-04-18 09:44:53 AM

Somacandra: I wouldn't trust anything Steve Emerson says


That guy gives me the skeevies.
 
2013-04-18 09:44:57 AM

MFK: SlothB77: the NYPost is already on to two other dark-skinned young males, the blue tracksuit guy and his friend in the white hat, who are persons of interest, but not the actual bombers.

http://www.reddit.com/r/findbostonbombers/comments/1cl3cj/blue_track su it_guy_identifiedends_up_being_a/

if you click the link, it redirects to a photo.  you have to copy the url and paste it in your browser to pull up the comments page i am trying to link to.

People have found blue tracksuit guy's facebook page and apparently it is a SHOW.

these two guys are locals. They are running enthusiasts, not terrorists. One of them coaches little kids. Truly they are monstors. This is the problem with crowd sourcing this shiat. Instead of working together to look for clues, people just do a where's waldo with the brown guys in the picture and then go on a witch hunt. Reddit and 4chan should be ashamed of themselves - they just created two more victims.


I'm sure everyone in yesterday's thread who insisted you could tell they had malevolent intent on account of having obviously prepared exactly like every other runner support group, while looking vaguely Persian, will be prompt to come in here and acknowledge you can tell in the "no bag" pictures, he obviously had a bag in front of him, like the big doofy white guy who they picked out for carrying his bag oddly.

All we really conclusively proved yesterday with crowdsourcing is that Reddit and 4chan, as a group, is fairly rude with their backpacks in large crowds.
 
2013-04-18 09:45:00 AM

angryjd: He has been studying terrorist organizations for 20 years. He runs the largest private counterterrorism think tank in the United States. Name an organization inside the US that doesn't work for uncle sam that has more expertise than that?


Rich kid with a fake job, got it.
 
2013-04-18 09:45:26 AM

kronicfeld: airsupport: WTF does that word mean in that context?

Disaster, debacle, ridiculous, fiasco, etc.


correct.

serial_crusher: Is that even the same white hat guy in both those pictures? He's wearing a different shirt.


No.  The reporting quality of the NYPost is getting worse, if possible.  They didn't even publish the picture where you could see white hat guy's backpack visible.  Blue tracksuit is with white hat guy with the sunglasses on top of his white hat in several pictures.  But the guy wearing the white cap with the thicker sweater in the second picture looks different and may be someone he doesn't even know, though it does appear the both are talking in that photo.
 
2013-04-18 09:49:16 AM
Go be brown somewhere else.
 
2013-04-18 09:52:23 AM
Really, Yahoo linking stories from "The, I link my own site as references, Blaze", they are really scrapping the bottom of the barrel for news.
 
2013-04-18 09:52:47 AM
ByJason Howerton |The Blaze

Are there any reputable sources with this story?
 
2013-04-18 09:53:55 AM

Mr Guy: the big doofy white guy who they picked out for carrying his bag oddly


The big doofy white guy is carrying a bag which appears to match one of those which exploded and appears to have a Fox logo (as per the zipper tag.) The two other guys seem to have been selected principally owing to their not being melanin impaired. Which is nice.
 
2013-04-18 09:54:41 AM
Well, if Steve Emmerson says it on Fox, then we know it must be true because he is a terrorism expert who has never been wrong. He figured it out that it was Islamists who bombed the Murrah Federal Building, when the amateurs got locked in on some kid named Timothy McVeigh.

I'm not worried about Al Qaeda on this one. I'm with Chris Rock and going with Al Cracker.
 
2013-04-18 09:55:10 AM
Our running coach is from the Middle East. Glad he was not in Boston.
 
2013-04-18 09:57:09 AM

Ring of Fire: Do people really think we would catch the guy responsible for this and just let him go because the President is a democrat. I mean you'd have to keep hundreds of people quite about it. It's not even close to plausible.


Not to mention idiotic.

But a portion of our population still believes he's some Muslim Manchurian candidate.
 
2013-04-18 10:00:02 AM
And if I were him, I'd accept that deportation with a smile on my face and a song in my heart.  Assuming that he was innocent, I feel for that dude.  I would hate to have traveled halfway around the world to the US and show up at the ONE EFFING TERRORIST EXPLOSION of the year.  That poor schmuck must have thought he was Cuba-bound for sure.
 
2013-04-18 10:01:37 AM

FunkOut: His crimes are "being swarthy in a non-swarthy zone", "loitering in an ethnic fashion", and "jaywalking like an Egyptian".


Also running away from a bomb while brown, which apparently is a suspicious activity.
 
2013-04-18 10:02:01 AM

FarkinNortherner: Mr Guy: the big doofy white guy who they picked out for carrying his bag oddly

The big doofy white guy is carrying a bag which appears to match one of those which exploded and appears to have a Fox logo (as per the zipper tag.) The two other guys seem to have been selected principally owing to their not being melanin impaired. Which is nice.


Yeah, but seriously, "appears to match" covers 90% of the backpacks sold in this country, at least at that distance, resolution, and angle.  That's why it was so easy to find nearly 15 to 20 people all "possibles" with dang near the same bag, plus or minus decorative reflective stitching and brand logos.
 
2013-04-18 10:03:39 AM
You know, if this guy moved to Pakistan and then went on Al-Jazeera proclaiming that not only did he do it, but he tricked the US government into helping him flee the country afterward, he'd become one of the biggest celebrities since Osama bin Laden.

/maybe even Ayatollah Khomeini
//even if he actually had nothing to do with it
///the conservatives would blame Obama, the liberals would blame Islamophobia, and we would have a category 5 shiatstorm all around
 
2013-04-18 10:04:05 AM
t2.gstatic.com

JESUS. Suck cak much?
 
2013-04-18 10:05:53 AM

cretinbob: I'm thinking it's more along the lines of "So he doesn't get his ass beat" reasons.


=========

Done in one.  This sucker is now target #1 for every moronic, AR-15 toting, patriotard from coast to coast.
 
2013-04-18 10:07:29 AM
As long as we're pulling ideas out of our ass, I'm betting the guy is from east Africa. Like Somalia. They're probably a little mad at us for supporting Ethiopia during that war no one talks about and they don't have the resources or expertise al queefa has.
 
2013-04-18 10:08:14 AM
Even if he had nothing to do with the bombing they probably just found out he overstayed his visa and wasn't in the country legally. What's the big deal?  If your presence here is not legal, and you come to the attention of the authorities, you may get deported. This is surprising to people?
 
2013-04-18 10:08:20 AM

Fissile: cretinbob: I'm thinking it's more along the lines of "So he doesn't get his ass beat" reasons.

=========

Done in one.  This sucker is now target #1 for every moronic, AR-15 toting, patriotard from coast to coast.


No. Target #1 is the guy with the black backpack pack and white hat and his friend in the blue track suit. Even though they probably didn't do anything.
 
2013-04-18 10:10:59 AM

The First Four Katy Perry Albums: Even if he had nothing to do with the bombing they probably just found out he overstayed his visa and wasn't in the country legally. What's the big deal?  If your presence here is not legal, and you come to the attention of the authorities, you may get deported. This is surprising to people?


Quit being reasonable.  This is obviously Obama screwing up
 
2013-04-18 10:11:00 AM

angryjd: Somacandra: FTFA: the Investigative Project on Terrorism's Steve Emerson...based his information on a number of his confidential sources. "I just learned from my own sources that he is now going to be deported on national security grounds next Tuesday," Emerson said.

[i.imgur.com image 407x274]

I wouldn't trust anything Steve Emerson says without open sources to back him up. He's a major self-styled "terrorism expert" with lots of foundation money to back him up and no real training or expertise. His organization was profiled in "Fear, Inc."

He has been studying terrorist organizations for 20 years. He runs the largest private counterterrorism think tank in the United States. Name an organization inside the US that doesn't work for uncle sam that has more expertise than that?

BTW, "national security grounds" probably means he is in the country on an expired visa. Not really worth commenting on.


Nice try Steve.
 
2013-04-18 10:13:00 AM
Oh goodie. Cannon fodder for conspiracy theorists.
 
2013-04-18 10:17:07 AM

SlothB77: you have to copy the url and paste it in your browser to pull up the comments page


Good Lord, no.
 
2013-04-18 10:21:45 AM

heinrich66: Because Rupert owns CNN.


Well, he does own them on a regular basis.
 
2013-04-18 10:30:59 AM

MFK: Reddit and 4chan should be ashamed of themselves


Like that's going to happen...
 
2013-04-18 10:34:05 AM
So according to the article this isn't an official report released from any government agency-- just some guy who is often wrong making a claim based on his unnamed source.

This is about as credible as reposting Twitter rumors as "news."
 
2013-04-18 10:34:51 AM
And that quickly meeting BOB (Barack O Bama) had with the Saudi foreign minister had nothing what so ever to do with it.

Well I guess Bob might have been brushing up on his bowing.
 
2013-04-18 10:38:13 AM
 
2013-04-18 10:41:18 AM

Brick-House: And that quickly meeting BOB (Barack O Bama) had with the Saudi foreign minister had nothing what so ever to do with it.

Well I guess Bob might have been brushing up on his bowing.


Kid is probably the bomber but related to King Abdullah so we have to let him go if we want the intel cooperation, black site staffing,  oil trade to keep going.....

We are way to chummy with that country.
 
2013-04-18 10:45:11 AM
FTFA: Emerson's claims have not been verified.

img11.imageshack.us

I guess even the front page of FARK is not impervious to reporting speculation as fact. Shame.
 
2013-04-18 10:47:12 AM

Mr Guy: Yeah, but seriously, "appears to match" covers 90% of the backpacks sold in this country, at least at that distance, resolution, and angle. That's why it was so easy to find nearly 15 to 20 people all "possibles" with dang near the same bag, plus or minus decorative reflective stitching and brand logos.


I couldn't agree more. The amateur sleuthing around this borders on comical.
 
2013-04-18 10:47:39 AM

make me some tea: Tea Party Nation is in full conspiracy mode.
http://www.teapartynation.com/forum/topics/questions-that-must-be-an sw ered-now


Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction.

Think of sandy hook.....at first the ar was found in the trunk of the car and they claimed he used pistols, then they say the ar was used to kill the kids and it was a shotgun that was found in the car....then the coroner says all the bullets stayed within the victims which makes it sound like hollow point rounds from pistols because rifle rounds will go through 20 inches of ballistic gelatin let alone an 8 inch thick torso of an adolescent.

Sometimes things don't make sense but we have to believe them because they come from an official involved in the investigation and who are we to question their knowledge and authority.
 
2013-04-18 10:50:26 AM

FarkinNortherner: Mr Guy: Yeah, but seriously, "appears to match" covers 90% of the backpacks sold in this country, at least at that distance, resolution, and angle. That's why it was so easy to find nearly 15 to 20 people all "possibles" with dang near the same bag, plus or minus decorative reflective stitching and brand logos.

I couldn't agree more. The amateur sleuthing around this borders on comical.


Pretty much every camera bag that LowePro makes fits that description:  http://www.google.com/search?q=lowepro&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla: e n-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og& sa=N&tab=wi&ei=CwhwUeuMPPXI4AO-_YHgDA&biw=2000&bih=901&sei=DghwUZPaL9S n4AOguYCAAw

Clicking that link may connect you to turrism.
 
2013-04-18 10:50:40 AM

FC Exile: [t2.gstatic.com image 219x230]

JESUS. Suck cak much?


Bye
 
2013-04-18 11:01:54 AM

kom: By the way, I happened to have our local right wing nut on the radio this morning (Quinn and Rose, they are in syndication now), and he was going on about how this is just like Oklahoma City, where they had an Arab connection that they went out of their way to downplay.  This is most definitely going to be part of most ensuing conspiracy theories.  Take it to the bank.


REALLY??!!   I used to listen to Q & R everyday back in the 90s.  For the Lolz.  I wasn't aware they went national.  Shame.
 
2013-04-18 11:02:17 AM

The First Four Katy Perry Albums: Even if he had nothing to do with the bombing they probably just found out he overstayed his visa and wasn't in the country legally. What's the big deal?  If your presence here is not legal, and you come to the attention of the authorities, you may get deported. This is surprising to people?




Why not just say that?
 
2013-04-18 11:03:07 AM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: nekom: Quinn and Rose

Makes me long for the days of Quinn and Banana on B-94 FM.


Jesus...how many Yinzers are on here?

*waves to fellow Yinzers*
 
2013-04-18 11:06:38 AM

StoPPeRmobile: The First Four Katy Perry Albums: Even if he had nothing to do with the bombing they probably just found out he overstayed his visa and wasn't in the country legally. What's the big deal?  If your presence here is not legal, and you come to the attention of the authorities, you may get deported. This is surprising to people?

Why not just say that?


Because it serves the interests of people like Steve Emerson to frame it as a "national security" issue.
 
2013-04-18 11:09:35 AM
Mr Guy:
Pretty much every camera bag that LowePro makes fits that description

Clicking that link may connect you to turrism.


LOL. As I said yesterday, I think I'm already connected.
 
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2013-04-18 11:18:09 AM

FarkinNortherner: Mr Guy:
Pretty much every camera bag that LowePro makes fits that description

Clicking that link may connect you to turrism.

LOL. As I said yesterday, I think I'm already connected.


.. and yesterday Tesco pull out of the US market. See - there's always a connection.

/British
//expat
///slashies
 
2013-04-18 11:19:46 AM
According to his FB pictures, this man has access to a T-Rex.  You'd think he'd just unleash a T-Rex after the runners if he was trying to terrify people.
 
2013-04-18 11:24:57 AM
It doesn't matter that this doesn't appear at the moment to be foreign terrorism.  Conservatives prefer to hip-check blame Muslims when something happens.
 
2013-04-18 11:35:01 AM

GAT_00: It doesn't matter that this doesn't appear at the moment to be foreign terrorism.



Based on what?

How many domestic terrorists have used pressure cookers as part of the bomb design?
 
2013-04-18 11:44:25 AM

PacificaFitz: So Hannity is just a conspiracy theorist at this point?


Hannity is Göbbels' red-headed stepchild. Nothing more, nothing less.
 
2013-04-18 11:54:55 AM

Giltric: GAT_00: It doesn't matter that this doesn't appear at the moment to be foreign terrorism.


Based on what?

How many domestic terrorists have used pressure cookers as part of the bomb design?


Based on a lack of evidence that says if it is foreign or domestic terrorism.
 
2013-04-18 11:56:23 AM

Summoner101: Yes, most of the hijackers were Saudis. We then went to war with Afghanistan and Iraq.


Well how else were we going to send a message to the Saudis if not by making an example of those other two countries?
 
2013-04-18 12:00:42 PM

Giltric: GAT_00: It doesn't matter that this doesn't appear at the moment to be foreign terrorism.


Based on what?

How many domestic terrorists have used pressure cookers as part of the bomb design?


Based on our massive database of how many completely domestic homegrown non-foreign influenced terrorists?

What do KNOW is designs for pressure cooker bombs were on the internet since there's BEEN an internet, as part of soldier of fortune type guides, including that staple of every teenage boy and young adult in the early 90's, the Anarchist Handbook (1971).  It's amazing to me, how fast we've turned into a nation afraid of letting boys discover what things can do by almost killing themselves.  I'm 33, and I don't think there was a single boy in my 7th grade class that hadn't at some point built some kind of makeshift molotov cocktail or pipe bomb.

Now we're acting like it's conclusive evidence of foreign terrorism that a pressure cooker bomb was used, when that's kind of a standard way of doing it.
 
2013-04-18 12:03:28 PM
Hey, submoronmitter, if the sources cited in your submission include Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck, step back from your keyboard and mouse and DIAF.
 
2013-04-18 12:06:45 PM

Giltric: GAT_00: It doesn't matter that this doesn't appear at the moment to be foreign terrorism.


Based on what?

How many domestic terrorists have used pressure cookers as part of the bomb design?


The anarchist cookbook has been in publication since 1971 and it outlines how to make a pressure cooker bomb.
 
2013-04-18 12:09:21 PM

Giltric: GAT_00: It doesn't matter that this doesn't appear at the moment to be foreign terrorism.


Based on what?

How many domestic terrorists have used pressure cookers as part of the bomb design?


Foreign terrorist organizations claim responsibility for attacks. It's a large part of their marketing strategy to attract members and funding. Not claiming responsibility is both out of line and contrary to their goals.
 
2013-04-18 12:09:24 PM

Mr Guy: Giltric: GAT_00: It doesn't matter that this doesn't appear at the moment to be foreign terrorism.


Based on what?

How many domestic terrorists have used pressure cookers as part of the bomb design?

Based on our massive database of how many completely domestic homegrown non-foreign influenced terrorists?

What do KNOW is designs for pressure cooker bombs were on the internet since there's BEEN an internet, as part of soldier of fortune type guides, including that staple of every teenage boy and young adult in the early 90's, the Anarchist Handbook (1971).  It's amazing to me, how fast we've turned into a nation afraid of letting boys discover what things can do by almost killing themselves.  I'm 33, and I don't think there was a single boy in my 7th grade class that hadn't at some point built some kind of makeshift molotov cocktail or pipe bomb.

Now we're acting like it's conclusive evidence of foreign terrorism that a pressure cooker bomb was used, when that's kind of a standard way of doing it.


Something thats been easily accessable for decades and which was available in print form for decades before that....yet there have been how many attacks using this type of design from domestic non foreign influenced homegrown terrorists?
 
2013-04-18 12:12:33 PM

James!: Giltric: GAT_00: It doesn't matter that this doesn't appear at the moment to be foreign terrorism.


Based on what?

How many domestic terrorists have used pressure cookers as part of the bomb design?

The anarchist cookbook has been in publication since 1971 and it outlines how to make a pressure cooker bomb.


It's funny how quick everyone misinterpreted that.  I was saying we couldn't say it was foreign or domestic terrorism at this point, which is why the conservatives jumping to blame Muslims is completely wrong.  Probably also misdirect/CYA stuff because they're worried it might be domestic terrorism, which historically has almost always been conservative actors.
 
2013-04-18 12:15:17 PM

GAT_00: It doesn't matter that this doesn't appear at the moment to be foreign terrorism.  Conservatives prefer to hip-check blame Muslims when something happens.




And others like to go for 2 on a specific innatimate object whenever violence occurs.
 
2013-04-18 12:15:22 PM

netweavr: Giltric: GAT_00: It doesn't matter that this doesn't appear at the moment to be foreign terrorism.


Based on what?

How many domestic terrorists have used pressure cookers as part of the bomb design?

Foreign terrorist organizations claim responsibility for attacks. It's a large part of their marketing strategy to attract members and funding. Not claiming responsibility is both out of line and contrary to their goals.


Yeah maybe some backwater jungle group that nobody has ever heard of before.....but do major terrorist organizations really need to advertise? Are they having trouble raising funds from wealthy ideological donors in oil rich nations. Do they really want the attention it would bring them in the form of green eyed men with black rifles or a drone strike?

AQ didn't make a claim to perpetrating 9-11 until we were already in A-stan bombing the Kush.
 
2013-04-18 12:21:57 PM
Onkel buck:  Good! That means we have room for one more illegal Mexican.

I'd take a Mexican over a Saudi any day.
 
2013-04-18 12:28:53 PM

Giltric: netweavr: Giltric: GAT_00: It doesn't matter that this doesn't appear at the moment to be foreign terrorism.


Based on what?

How many domestic terrorists have used pressure cookers as part of the bomb design?

Foreign terrorist organizations claim responsibility for attacks. It's a large part of their marketing strategy to attract members and funding. Not claiming responsibility is both out of line and contrary to their goals.

Yeah maybe some backwater jungle group that nobody has ever heard of before.....but do major terrorist organizations really need to advertise? Are they having trouble raising funds from wealthy ideological donors in oil rich nations. Do they really want the attention it would bring them in the form of green eyed men with black rifles or a drone strike?

AQ didn't make a claim to perpetrating 9-11 until we were already in A-stan bombing the Kush.




The chatter is being watched.

Feels like growing up wondering what it would be like to live in Ireland during a certain period.
 
2013-04-18 12:32:13 PM

GAT_00: James!: Giltric: GAT_00: It doesn't matter that this doesn't appear at the moment to be foreign terrorism.


Based on what?

How many domestic terrorists have used pressure cookers as part of the bomb design?

The anarchist cookbook has been in publication since 1971 and it outlines how to make a pressure cooker bomb.

It's funny how quick everyone misinterpreted that.  I was saying we couldn't say it was foreign or domestic terrorism at this point, which is why the conservatives jumping to blame Muslims is completely wrong.  Probably also misdirect/CYA stuff because they're worried it might be domestic terrorism, which historically has almost always been conservative actors.


That would be pretty easy to do....compare conservative actors like army of god, and eric rudolph type abortion bombers with left leaning actors who have used bombs.

Do you have a tally?
 
2013-04-18 12:40:41 PM
We don't know who did it yet.  Apparently there are persons of interest which may or may not end up becoming suspects.  Personally, I won't be surprised if we find out it was some ant-tax right wing nut given it was April 15:  Tax Day, and in Massachusetts, Patriots' Day.  However, I do not know if this is indeed the case or not yet.


Also, as soon as I saw "The Blaze," I dismissed a lot of the "reporting" in this so-called article.
 
2013-04-18 01:00:30 PM

GAT_00: Giltric: GAT_00: It doesn't matter that this doesn't appear at the moment to be foreign terrorism.


Based on what?

How many domestic terrorists have used pressure cookers as part of the bomb design?

Based on a lack of evidence that says if it is foreign or domestic terrorism.


But GAT,  isn't it also true that "It doesn't matter that this doesn't appear at the moment to be foreign Domestic terrorism"  ,  "Based on a lack of evidence that says if it is foreign or domestic terrorism."?

 
2013-04-18 01:22:23 PM

MyRandomName: Liberals are already in the find a way to attack conservatives about the bombings phase. Political exploitation aka not letting a crisis go to waste on deck. Quite a few already blaming sequester.


Wow.

You really will say whatever pops into your head, won't you?
 
2013-04-18 01:25:57 PM

Giltric: Now we're acting like it's conclusive evidence of foreign terrorism that a pressure cooker bomb was used, when that's kind of a standard way of doing it.

Something thats been easily accessable for decades and which was available in print form for decades before that....yet there have been how many attacks using this type of design from domestic non foreign influenced homegrown terrorists?


My point is we have a very short list of terrorist incidents in our country's entire history: http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/terrorism/wrjp255a.html

There's almost no consistency on it, so there's not enough datapoints to indicate what a domestic terrorist is more or less likely to do, other than the basic observation than many people who want to kill someone in the US choose to just follow them home and shoot them there or burns their place down, as opposed to doing it messily in public.
 
2013-04-18 01:37:17 PM

SirEattonHogg: Onkel buck:  Good! That means we have room for one more illegal Mexican.

I'd take a Mexican over a Saudi any day.


Me too, but Mexican gives me terrible heartburn
 
2013-04-18 01:37:47 PM

AugieDoggyDaddy: GAT_00: Giltric: GAT_00: It doesn't matter that this doesn't appear at the moment to be foreign terrorism.


Based on what?

How many domestic terrorists have used pressure cookers as part of the bomb design?

Based on a lack of evidence that says if it is foreign or domestic terrorism.

But GAT,  isn't it also true that "It doesn't matter that this doesn't appear at the moment to be foreign Domestic terrorism"  ,  "Based on a lack of evidence that says if it is foreign or domestic terrorism."?


Try scrolling down.

Giltric: Do you have a tally?


I remember seeing someone post one recently.  In the 70 cases recently where someone tried to obtain explosives in the US, 40 or so were right wing groups, 20 or so were Islamic terrorists, and the remainder were split between a couple of different groups, including 1 environmental terrorist.
 
2013-04-18 01:38:06 PM

BunkoSquad: SlothB77: you have to copy the url and paste it in your browser to pull up the comments page i am trying to link to.

Yeah, I read that comment page for 2 minutes and it's like watching people try to play Clue while being hit in the head with 2-by-4s.


There were multiple problems with the crowdsourced investigation, other than most people involved being retards and having never conducted any such similar investigation or having any professional investigative experience whatsoever.

1. The evidence made public by the FBI was complete shiat quality.  Here the FBI is asking for help, and they gave us one still image of the blown backpack, that isn't available at better than 600x400 resolution?  Really?  How about you take 20 high quality pictures and closeups of it and show us? Then we can help identify the exact make/model of the backup, and then start scouring the crowd for people with that make/model backup.

2. The Internet was treating the range of "evidence" available online as being the only evidence.  Just because we had 500 photos of the bomb site prior to the bomb going off, doesn't mean the bomber HAS to be in any of those photos.  At all.
 
2013-04-18 01:55:37 PM

airsupport: He is guilty, but related to a prominent, oil-rich family.

Bet you a dollar.

Better yet, I'll bet you $9.11


My guess, if there's actually any truth to the story at all, is that he overstayed his student visa and/or flunked out of school but kept collecting his subsidy from the gubmint back home.  And there's no actual 'national security' interest anywhere near him, except for maybe having a prominent family back home.
 
2013-04-18 01:57:41 PM

GAT_00: AugieDoggyDaddy: GAT_00: Giltric: GAT_00: It doesn't matter that this doesn't appear at the moment to be foreign terrorism.


Based on what?

How many domestic terrorists have used pressure cookers as part of the bomb design?

Based on a lack of evidence that says if it is foreign or domestic terrorism.

But GAT,  isn't it also true that "It doesn't matter that this doesn't appear at the moment to be foreign Domestic terrorism"  ,  "Based on a lack of evidence that says if it is foreign or domestic terrorism."?

Try scrolling down.

Giltric: Do you have a tally?

I remember seeing someone post one recently.  In the 70 cases recently where someone tried to obtain explosives in the US, 40 or so were right wing groups, 20 or so were Islamic terrorists, and the remainder were split between a couple of different groups, including 1 environmental terrorist.


Design of an anti-personnel device/bomb is usually connected to a profile or part of the actors fingerprint....
 
2013-04-18 02:13:09 PM

Sliding Carp: airsupport: He is guilty, but related to a prominent, oil-rich family.

Bet you a dollar.

Better yet, I'll bet you $9.11

My guess, if there's actually any truth to the story at all, is that he overstayed his student visa and/or flunked out of school but kept collecting his subsidy from the gubmint back home.  And there's no actual 'national security' interest anywhere near him, except for maybe having a prominent family back home.


You would not BELIEVE how much weed they found in his apartment.  The police returned to the station with literally dozens of bags of it, and checked the single bag into evidence.  At his trial, the prosecution will have ounces of evidence to demonstrate, perhaps even enough for a one hitter.
 
2013-04-18 02:50:06 PM
Confidential source?

i14.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-18 02:50:23 PM

FC Exile: [t2.gstatic.com image 219x230]

JESUS. Suck cak much?


static.filmannex.com

Not lately.
 
2013-04-18 02:53:37 PM
UPDATE III:
TheBlaze Chief Content Officer Joel Cheatwood reported on "The Glenn Beck Program" Thursday morning that TheBlaze has been informed that the government is now considering not deporting Abdul Rahman Ali Alharbi.

What a surprise! Glenn Beck was wrong!

And Joel Cheatwood is now working for Glenn Beck? My how far he's fallen from his days working a news department at a TV station in Miami.
 
2013-04-18 03:32:11 PM
I have it on good authority that a man of Middle Eastern descent named Benjamin Gazi is a person of interest in this bombing.
 
2013-04-18 04:16:45 PM

MFK: SlothB77: the NYPost is already on to two other dark-skinned young males, the blue tracksuit guy and his friend in the white hat, who are persons of interest, but not the actual bombers.

http://www.reddit.com/r/findbostonbombers/comments/1cl3cj/blue_track su it_guy_identifiedends_up_being_a/

if you click the link, it redirects to a photo.  you have to copy the url and paste it in your browser to pull up the comments page i am trying to link to.

People have found blue tracksuit guy's facebook page and apparently it is a SHOW.

these two guys are locals. They are running enthusiasts, not terrorists. One of them coaches little kids. Truly they are monstors. This is the problem with crowd sourcing this shiat. Instead of working together to look for clues, people just do a where's waldo with the brown guys in the picture and then go on a witch hunt. Reddit and 4chan should be ashamed of themselves - they just created two more victims.


So when Reddit/4chan was "investigating" who the blue fleece white guy was it was fine? If you took your head out of the dark insides of your butt you'd see that the people they were looking at were all standing VERY close to, if not on top, of the spot the bomb went off. One of them also happens to have large black bag like the photo of the bag from the FBI, that is suddenly not visible AFTER they were standing on or near the spot where the bomb went off. It wasn't like people from reddit and 4chan just picked some random brown person out from a picture of some random place in the crowd and said "that guy."

And while a few posts that I've seen are just "look at this guy." I have none that are racially based (until the FBI said we're looking for a "white guy" as a POI).

I'm sorry that you can't deal with the reality of life (because even the FBI at one point wanted to talk to these guy) but if you insist on falling on your sword of internet justice to defend people do it for the right reason and not because you're offended that they could ever accuse someone that's not white.

BTW the right reason is that they could be innocent, not that they could be of non-European ethnicity.
 
2013-04-18 04:44:19 PM
This is just shameful and none of the asswits responsible will feel any.
 
2013-04-18 08:04:23 PM
FTFA: UPDATE 4:10 -- Immigrations and Customs Enforcement responded to TheBlaze's report on Al Alharbi, calling it "categorically false.
 
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