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(Chicago Trib)   Dear CNN, it's okay to say "We don't know"   (chicagotribune.com) divider line 75
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2013-04-18 11:10:49 AM

dittybopper: unfarkingbelievable: From the article -- "boiling like a piranha tank..."

What the hell does that mean? How does a piranha tank boil?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQIo9r8ZcjM


Quicker than a crocodile can chew a puppy.
 
2013-04-18 11:12:42 AM
Meanwhile cnn.com says the TX explosion has killed "5 to 15 people". WTF
 
2013-04-18 11:15:01 AM
It's like Wolf Blitzer is worried he's gonna get slimed.

Careful mentioning water, fella.
 
2013-04-18 11:20:48 AM

ObiWanSpicoli: Meanwhile cnn.com says the TX explosion has killed "5 to 15 people". WTF


The fire was still going and they are just beginning to search the area. Not to mention that there's so many in area hospitals that it's taking time to find out who's actually missing...
 
2013-04-18 11:21:59 AM
I admit, when I hear about some breaking news story from a coworker, I type in cnn.com because it's short and I remember it. Probably time to break that habit.
 
2013-04-18 11:22:14 AM

dittybopper: unfarkingbelievable: From the article -- "boiling like a piranha tank..."

What the hell does that mean? How does a piranha tank boil?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQIo9r8ZcjM


Still don't see evidence of boiling. Was the water temperature very hot?
 
2013-04-18 11:23:27 AM
I know more about the story from reading twitter, reddit and fark than I do from watching CNN. Cutting out the middle man. Since Twitter and Reddit (a lot) seems to be where the media is pulling its theories.

Fark's becoming more of an paid affiliate network for whatever partner (buzzfeed et al) is paying this week for traffic. Which has about as much relevancy during a crisis as CNN. I can read the same official tweets and follow the same reddit threads as you guys. And not worry about what partner paid to have their crap greenlit in the middle of it.

Know who was the most accurate reporting the day of the event? ESPN.
 
2013-04-18 11:24:07 AM

mekki: Blame the viewing public. They'd rather have rumors now than facts later.


I think the public shares the blame, but I also believe the media taught them to believe the news should be "instant".

Cornelius Dribble: I agree completely with your analysis of the news industry, yesterday and today, but I thought you could use a [currently unemployed] editor.


If I could afford it, I would hire someone to edit everything I write, even a grocery list.  My self editing skills suck.  I've an ex who took great joy in red penning my writing, I should have married her.

Of course, it must be admitted that the system was never foolproof:

True, but at least the effort was made.
 
2013-04-18 11:27:27 AM

cman: WTF, subs?

I had to open Firefox because of the damn box saying I need to upgrade to a subscription.

This box was so perfectly made that I couldnt even adblock my way out of it. I had to use NoScript

fark you, subs, for having me open FIrefox to read a damn article


Odd, Chrome with Adblock Plus had no such issues.
 
2013-04-18 11:28:25 AM

unfarkingbelievable: dittybopper: unfarkingbelievable: From the article -- "boiling like a piranha tank..."

What the hell does that mean? How does a piranha tank boil?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQIo9r8ZcjM

Still don't see evidence of boiling. Was the water temperature very hot?


Well, I'm sure all that activity raised it's temperature by a measurable amount, but the whole thing is a metaphor, Commander Data, for seething activity.
 
2013-04-18 11:29:45 AM
Generation_D:...Know who was the most accurate reporting the day of the event? ESPN.

The apocalypse is at hand!
 
2013-04-18 11:37:05 AM

howdoibegin: It's not like Fark didn't have a link to the NY Post all day claiming 12 dead.


I don't recall which network/outlet it was but in my reader yesterday a headline proclaimed "an arrest has been made in Boston Marathon Bombing!" yet once I clicked through the headline magically changed to "NO arrest yet in Boston Marathon Bombing!"  But hey, they got me to click through, and that's really what it's all about, isn't it?

/farking disgusting
 
2013-04-18 11:44:12 AM

FullMetalPanda: MaliFinn: My son had a wonderful comment last night, he said that people are afraid to say "we don't know" when they are in a position of authority, because it makes them feel inadequate, and makes their audience uneasy.

He said they should say "we don't know yet" which conveys the same info, but gives everyone a lot more confidence.

So to prevent a "date" from running off.  I should say "I'm not going to rape you yet so don't worry about being raped."


Jeebus, MailFinn - wtf is wrong with you??
 
2013-04-18 11:44:48 AM

wjllope: ObiWanSpicoli: Meanwhile cnn.com says the TX explosion has killed "5 to 15 people". WTF

The fire was still going and they are just beginning to search the area. Not to mention that there's so many in area hospitals that it's taking time to find out who's actually missing.


why not just say 0 to 1 million people then? Don't report it unless you have facts
 
2013-04-18 11:52:48 AM
The news is nothing more than reality TV. Some of the hotsts are even actors playing a part. I stopped watching live news a long time ago. By the time I get my news it's been filtered and accepted as fact.
 
2013-04-18 11:53:31 AM

ObiWanSpicoli: why not just say 0 to 1 million people then? Don't report it unless you have facts


Seems reasonable to assume that "5-15" is the count of known dead plus some number of people that have not been located. An estimate is just that, and is more informative than "0 to 1M"...
 
2013-04-18 12:02:13 PM

unfarkingbelievable: dittybopper: unfarkingbelievable: From the article -- "boiling like a piranha tank..."

What the hell does that mean? How does a piranha tank boil?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQIo9r8ZcjM

Still don't see evidence of boiling. Was the water temperature very hot?



Boil as in to churn or be agitated. "The sea was boiling in the storm."
 
2013-04-18 12:31:29 PM
To quote my late grandmother.

Not knowing for a certainty I cannot with any degree of accuracy presume to assert, for fear in making such an assertion I may accidentally err, or make an erroneous statement.
 
2013-04-18 12:36:43 PM
Dear CNN,

Give up, Al-Jazeera, Reuters, and RT have better sources than you.

Love,

Former CNN audience
 
2013-04-18 01:28:32 PM

Carousel Beast: FullMetalPanda: MaliFinn: My son had a wonderful comment last night, he said that people are afraid to say "we don't know" when they are in a position of authority, because it makes them feel inadequate, and makes their audience uneasy.

He said they should say "we don't know yet" which conveys the same info, but gives everyone a lot more confidence.

So to prevent a "date" from running off.  I should say "I'm not going to rape you yet so don't worry about being raped."

Jeebus, MailFinn - wtf is wrong with you??


I don't find rape funny, and if that makes me wrong I don't wanna be right.
 
2013-04-18 01:43:47 PM
If you're not first, you're last
 
2013-04-18 02:40:36 PM
That was...surprisingly reasonable for a John Kass column.
 
2013-04-18 02:58:30 PM

whistleridge: The problem is, it isn't. The mass media don't care about accuracy or long term effects, they care about short-term viewership numbers.

So if you're running with 'we don't know...the situation is very fluid right now, and there are no indications that a break is coming anytime soon' and another guy pops up with 'THIS JUST IN: INTERNET RUMOR INDICATES A DARK SKINNED MALE MAY HAVE BEEN QUESTIONED IN CONNECTION WITH THE BOMBING', all your viewers are going to go to the other guy.

And since we're the nation of viewers who are so rational and critical that they have made  Jersey Shore,  Here Comes Honey Boo Boo, The Real Housewives of (Location),  Duck Dynasty, Buckwild, et al runaway hits, you can't rely on them to get to the other guy, see that he's full of shiat, and come back either. You have no choice but to match him, crazy for crazy. All the smart viewers will be watching PBS or listening to NPR anyway.


Except no one else is being crazy. Just CNN because they have like 2 viewers left.
 
2013-04-18 08:26:25 PM

ObiWanSpicoli: Meanwhile cnn.com says the TX explosion has killed "5 to 15 people". WTF


2d6 + 3
 
2013-04-19 01:16:30 AM
Dear EVERYONE IN THE ENTIRE F*CKING WORLD, it's okay to say "I don't know".
 
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