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(Washington Post)   House Foreign Relations Committee: So Sec. Kerry, tell us about Benghazi. Kerry: Really? Benghazi? HFRC: Please, BENGHAZI the BENGHAZI your BEGHAZI if you would BENGAZHI. BENGAZHI. Kerry: You guys are idiots   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 94
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2013-04-18 09:01:49 AM
i3.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-04-18 09:07:00 AM
Oh look, it's THIS thread again.
 
2013-04-18 09:14:00 AM
Kerry would have been a lousy President, but he's quite the statesman.
 
2013-04-18 09:18:41 AM

Some Bass Playing Guy: Kerry would have been a lousy President, but he's quite the statesman.


I don't know about the former, and that's a what if we'll never truly know, but I agree with the latter. He's the right man for this job for sure, highly qualified and smart enough to do it.
 
2013-04-18 09:29:58 AM

Some Bass Playing Guy: Kerry would have been a lousy President, but he's quite the statesman.


Uh, do you think the guy who "beat" him in 2004 did a bang-up job?
 
2013-04-18 09:30:36 AM

Some Bass Playing Guy: Kerry would have been a lousy President


I don't believe he would have led us into two wars that have thus far cost 50,000 dead and wounded and devastated the economy to the tune of 4.3 trillion(so far).
 
2013-04-18 09:30:40 AM
So, just so we're clear:

The Benghazi that resulted after the Republican-Controlled House cut the budget of the State Department, and the Diplomat Protection Service, by millions as a FARK YOU to Clinton and Obama for not getting their way?
The Benghazi that resulted after those same people ignored warning of a potential event for over a year?
The Benghazi "scandal" that resulted because the right manufactured outrage that Obama would DARE not release active and viable intelligence on who did it, rather choosing to release a canned statement?
The Benghazi where people like to claim ex-navy SEALs working for a PMC as Martyrs, ignoring the fact they were in a tactically advantageous position to exact a rescue and direct responding forces, AND ordered to hold their ground until able to do so and decided to blow that to the wind and charge into a numerically superior and highly pissed off crowd?

This is the Benghazi We're talking about, right?
 
2013-04-18 09:32:19 AM
Seven months after the attack, "members of Congress are frustrated. Hundreds want a select committee" to investigate, said Rep. Ted Poe (R-Tex.). "I hear comments all the time: 'Why haven't we captured anybody that did these things in Benghazi?' "
 
2013-04-18 09:33:12 AM
wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net
 
2013-04-18 09:34:22 AM

oldernell: Some Bass Playing Guy: Kerry would have been a lousy President

I don't believe he would have led us into two wars that have thus far cost 50,000 dead and wounded and devastated the economy to the tune of 4.3 trillion(so far).


To be fair, that damage was done by the time he was running.
 
2013-04-18 09:34:32 AM
benghazijuice...

Benghazijuice...

BENGHAZIJUICE
 
2013-04-18 09:36:07 AM

hardinparamedic: This is the Benghazi We're talking about, right?


4 people died.  People almost no one knew.  In a country and city most people couldn't point to on a map.  Tragic.  But where we these "let's investigate the shiat out of it" guys regarding 9/11?
 
2013-04-18 09:36:08 AM
"First of all, there's an FBI investigation which is ongoing. And we look to that investigation to give us the definitive word as to what transpired. But putting together the best information that we have available to us today our current assessment is that what happened in Benghazi was in fact initially a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired hours before in Cairo, almost a copycat of-- of the demonstrations against our facility in Cairo, which were prompted, of course, by the video. What we think then transpired in Benghazi is that opportunistic extremist elements came to the consulate as this was unfolding. They came with heavy weapons which unfortunately are readily available in post revolutionary Libya. And it escalated into a much more violent episode. Obviously, that's-- that's our best judgment now. We'll await the results of the investigation."
 
2013-04-18 09:39:27 AM
This is gonna be like a second whitewater. You see, the US Ambassador to Libya had seen Obama's real birth certificate, and needed to be silenced, so Obama called in his cousin Mokhtar Belmokthar to do the job.
 
2013-04-18 09:40:37 AM

rabidarmadillo24: This is gonna be like a second whitewater. You see, the US Ambassador to Libya had seen Obama's real birth certificate, and needed to be silenced, so Obama called in his cousin Mokhtar Belmokthar to do the job.


Excuse me Mr. Jones...it's time for your pills ;-)
 
2013-04-18 09:40:49 AM
Maybe the Committee is just excited about Earthbound coming to the US.

Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi.

I'm.........happy......

Benghazi, it hurts......
 
2013-04-18 09:42:12 AM
Not to conflate the situations, but compare the Boston bombing with the Benghazi attack. Boston had hundreds of people with recording devices, large event amount of emergency personnel, and it happened on our home turf. Law enforcement has their job cut out for it to figure out who did it. Benghazi had thousands of people in an all out riot, mass chaos, and a small contingent of American security personnel. To investigate, they have a handful of Americans and a Libyan government in transition. The odds are considerably harder in Libya.
 
2013-04-18 09:42:28 AM

Raharu: benghazijuice...

Benghazijuice...

BENGHAZIJUICE


you have to say it 13 and a half more times.
 
2013-04-18 09:42:36 AM

GoodyearPimp: But where we these "let's investigate the shiat out of it" guys regarding 9/11?


They did that in 2001. Or....are you saying there's some kind of  truth to be found?
 
2013-04-18 09:42:42 AM
This is John Kerry's Benghazi.
 
2013-04-18 09:44:44 AM
Should Marklar and Marklar marklar all the marklars?
 
2013-04-18 09:44:47 AM
2.bp.blogspot.com
"Hey, if news say Americans died in Benghazi, then that's that.
I mean, we might have missed one thing in Benghazi. I mean. Hey.
I mean, I'm supposed  to be the franchise Secretary of State,
and we in here talkin bout Benghazi?

I mean, we talkin about Benghazi. Not about North Korea, not the Boston
Marathon bombings. We talkin about Benghazi. Not the bombings, we talkin
about practice. I'm not shoving it aside like it don't mean anything. But we
talkin about Benghazi. We talkin about Benghazi? We talking about Benghazi?!!

You see me givin everything I got. But we talkin about Benghazi. We talkin about
Benghazi. We aren't even talkin about the bombings. We ain't talkin about North
Korea. We talkin about Benghazi? How the hell can I make this country better if
we talkin about Benghazi."
 
2013-04-18 09:45:46 AM

Some Bass Playing Guy: Kerry would have been a lousy President, but he's quite the statesman.


He would have been a lousy president according to our current working definition, which is somebody who can talk directly to his base.  Dubya could do that (although it remains a mystery to me that his base could actually understand him), and Obama can do it too.

Actual ability doesn't matter that much.  To be successful as a president, you just need to be a good PR man.  Kerry has never been very good at that.
 
2013-04-18 09:46:33 AM

Summoner101: Not to conflate the situations, but compare the Boston bombing with the Benghazi attack. Boston had hundreds of people with recording devices, large event amount of emergency personnel, and it happened on our home turf. Law enforcement has their job cut out for it to figure out who did it. Benghazi had thousands of people in an all out riot, mass chaos, and a small contingent of American security personnel. To investigate, they have a handful of Americans and a Libyan government in transition. The odds are considerably harder in Libya.


Well, the Libyans are as cooperative as the people in Boston have be...

Wait.  Why are you laughing?

No.  Seriously.  I'm sure they're helping.

Stop laughing.

LOOK!  They're overseas.  Way overseas.  Do you think that whole "snitches get stitches" thing made it from America to some dried up, African backwater like Libya?   No!  It hasn't, and they're totally helping.  Really.  Just bending over backwards to provide information.
 
2013-04-18 09:50:01 AM
Did Congress ever approve additional funds for embassy security?
 
2013-04-18 09:51:17 AM

hardinparamedic: GoodyearPimp: But where we these "let's investigate the shiat out of it" guys regarding 9/11?

They did that in 2001. Or....are you saying there's some kind of  truth to be found?



One closed door session with the president while Cheney holds his hand is not "investigating the shiat out of it."
 
2013-04-18 09:53:59 AM

Kibbler: He would have been a lousy president according to our current working definition, which is somebody who can talk directly to his base. Dubya could do that (although it remains a mystery to me that his base could actually understand him)


The grunts, chest-pounding, and feces-throwing are understood among Dubya's base as a cry for more tax cuts.
 
2013-04-18 09:54:09 AM

Kibbler: Some Bass Playing Guy: Kerry would have been a lousy President, but he's quite the statesman.

He would have been a lousy president according to our current working definition, which is somebody who can talk directly to his base.  Dubya could do that (although it remains a mystery to me that his base could actually understand him), and Obama can do it too.

Actual ability doesn't matter that much.  To be successful as a president, you just need to be a good PR man.  Kerry has never been very good at that.


Uh, Obama's 'base'? He's a centrist. The base of the Democratic party really doesn't like Obama that much as far as I can tell. I'm in that base, and I voted for Obama, but I can barely stand most of his policies.
 
2013-04-18 09:54:28 AM
"I want seven hearings a week, times 40 weeks."

www1.pictures.zimbio.com
 
2013-04-18 09:54:38 AM

Arkanaut: Did Congress ever approve additional funds for embassy security?


Was congress as bothered by the intelligence failures that lead up to the Iraq war and the 3000+ dead there?
//McCain - In a recent interview with The Arizona Republic, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., said in retrospect there is little doubt the Bush administration's position on Iraq WMDs "probably was not correct" and that Powell delivered "false information" to the U.N.
 
2013-04-18 09:55:16 AM

Kibbler: Actual ability doesn't matter that much. To be successful as a president, you just need to be a good PR man. Kerry has never been very good at that.


Sums up politics nicely.

We use a selective process that only looks at the ability to campaign, stir up the base, and not make dumb decisions related to sex.

And then wonder why these sexually repressed fear-mongering campaign machines can't govern properly.
 
2013-04-18 09:56:37 AM

Arkanaut: Did Congress ever approve additional funds for embassy security?


No, I believe Oblahma wouldn't let them. They tried and tried, but O strong-armed them into submission. As usual.
 
2013-04-18 09:56:44 AM

Lord_Baull: One closed door session with the president while Cheney holds his hand is not "investigating the shiat out of it."


Not sure if troll or just stupid.

The 9/11 Investigation was one of the largest criminal and forensic investigations in the history of the United States. In addition, the Scientific aspect - even though it debunked a lot of the "truther" ideas out there - is conveniently ignored.
 
2013-04-18 09:57:33 AM

bdub77: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 298x176]


1. Awesome.
2. You forgot to replace one "practice". Not that I mind, but you should know in case you want to re-use this (I say, every threadGHAZI we have should start with Milhouse and Iverson as 1-2).
3. You forgot the one time AI goes, "Man, we talkin' 'bout prac-...". The half-usage (just after that presser, ESPN was running a replay of it with a counter. Ends up at 13.5).
 
2013-04-18 09:59:11 AM

hardinparamedic: So, just so we're clear:

The Benghazi that resulted after the Republican-Controlled House cut the budget of the State Department, and the Diplomat Protection Service, by millions as a FARK YOU to Clinton and Obama for not getting their way?
The Benghazi that resulted after those same people ignored warning of a potential event for over a year?
The Benghazi "scandal" that resulted because the right manufactured outrage that Obama would DARE not release active and viable intelligence on who did it, rather choosing to release a canned statement?
The Benghazi where people like to claim ex-navy SEALs working for a PMC as Martyrs, ignoring the fact they were in a tactically advantageous position to exact a rescue and direct responding forces, AND ordered to hold their ground until able to do so and decided to blow that to the wind and charge into a numerically superior and highly pissed off crowd?

This is the Benghazi We're talking about, right?


That's the one.
 
2013-04-18 09:59:18 AM

Dr Dreidel: bdub77: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 298x176]

1. Awesome.
2. You forgot to replace one "practice". Not that I mind, but you should know in case you want to re-use this (I say, every threadGHAZI we have should start with Milhouse and Iverson as 1-2).
3. You forgot the one time AI goes, "Man, we talkin' 'bout prac-...". The half-usage (just after that presser, ESPN was running a replay of it with a counter. Ends up at 13.5).


Yep. Can't edit now. :)
 
2013-04-18 10:00:07 AM
hardiparamedic: "They did that in 2001. "
President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney have placed strict limits on the private interviews they will grant to the federal commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks, saying that they will meet only with the panel's top two officials and that Mr. Bush will submit to only a single hour of questioning, commission members said Wednesday.
The commission, which has 10 members and is bipartisan, said in a statement that it had also been informed by the White House that Condoleezza Rice, the national security adviser, had rejected its request that she testify in public about the intelligence reports that reached her desk before the Sept. 11 attacks.
 Republican Congressional leaders have criticized the investigation's pace. Speaker J. Dennis Hastert said he would not support and might block any legislation that extended the life of the panel, which is scheduled to complete its work in May.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/26/us/bush-to-limit-testimony-before- 9- 11-panel.html

Republicans sure seem ALOT more upset about this Benghazi BS than they did about 9/11. Why do you think that is?
 
2013-04-18 10:00:16 AM

hardinparamedic: tactically advantageous position


Don't you mean dis-advantageous or something?
 
2013-04-18 10:04:10 AM

hardinparamedic: Lord_Baull: One closed door session with the president while Cheney holds his hand is not "investigating the shiat out of it."

Not sure if troll or just stupid.

The 9/11 Investigation was one of the largest criminal and forensic investigations in the history of the United States. In addition, the Scientific aspect - even though it debunked a lot of the "truther" ideas out there - is conveniently ignored.



Ah, well, hell. A link to Wikipedia sure put me in my place. Consider me sufficiently chastised.
 
2013-04-18 10:04:49 AM

Lord_Baull: Arkanaut: Did Congress ever approve additional funds for embassy security?

No, I believe Oblahma wouldn't let them. They tried and tried, but O strong-armed them into submission. As usual.


And just yesterday he strong-armed them into voting against the background check bill.  WTF is his problem?!?!?!
 
2013-04-18 10:05:00 AM

HarveyBrooks: hardiparamedic: "They did that in 2001. "
President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney have placed strict limits on the private interviews they will grant to the federal commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks, saying that they will meet only with the panel's top two officials and that Mr. Bush will submit to only a single hour of questioning, commission members said Wednesday.
The commission, which has 10 members and is bipartisan, said in a statement that it had also been informed by the White House that Condoleezza Rice, the national security adviser, had rejected its request that she testify in public about the intelligence reports that reached her desk before the Sept. 11 attacks.
 Republican Congressional leaders have criticized the investigation's pace. Speaker J. Dennis Hastert said he would not support and might block any legislation that extended the life of the panel, which is scheduled to complete its work in May.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/26/us/bush-to-limit-testimony-before- 9- 11-panel.html

Republicans sure seem ALOT more upset about this Benghazi BS than they did about 9/11. Why do you think that is?


Not to mention the fact that no transcription or recording of the interview with the President and Vice President were allowed.  No one but the people in that room will ever know what was asked or what was answered.  For all we know they were in there playing Risk the whole time.
 
2013-04-18 10:10:46 AM

EyeballKid: Some Bass Playing Guy: Kerry would have been a lousy President, but he's quite the statesman.

Uh, do you think the guy who "beat" him in 2004 did a bang-up job?


In a choice for running a NASCAR event, a Geometro and a Prius are both terrible choices. Just because the Prius is faster than a metro doesn't make it a good racing car.
 
2013-04-18 10:14:48 AM
Seven months after the attack, "members of Congress are frustrated. Hundreds want a select committee" to investigate, said Rep. Ted Poe (R-Tex.). "I hear comments all the time: 'Why haven't we captured anybody that did these things in Benghazi?'"

Probably because you assholes won't STFU long enough for anyone to actually do their jobs, you twit.
 
2013-04-18 10:15:14 AM

nekom: Some Bass Playing Guy: Kerry would have been a lousy President, but he's quite the statesman.

I don't know about the former, and that's a what if we'll never truly know, but I agree with the latter. He's the right man for this job for sure, highly qualified and smart enough to do it.


I agree entirely except to say he would have made an excellent president. I like when a president has seen the horror of war and has the balls to stand up to it.
 
2013-04-18 10:25:44 AM

Mikey1969: Seven months after the attack, "members of Congress are frustrated. Hundreds want a select committee" to investigate, said Rep. Ted Poe (R-Tex.). "I hear comments all the time: 'Why haven't we captured anybody that did these things in Benghazi?'"

Probably because you assholes won't STFU long enough for anyone to actually do their jobs, you twit.



I was going to go with, "Because the republican House voted to cut that budget."
 
2013-04-18 10:27:22 AM

Tor_Eckman: HarveyBrooks: hardiparamedic: "They did that in 2001. "
President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney have placed strict limits on the private interviews they will grant to the federal commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks, saying that they will meet only with the panel's top two officials and that Mr. Bush will submit to only a single hour of questioning, commission members said Wednesday.
The commission, which has 10 members and is bipartisan, said in a statement that it had also been informed by the White House that Condoleezza Rice, the national security adviser, had rejected its request that she testify in public about the intelligence reports that reached her desk before the Sept. 11 attacks.
 Republican Congressional leaders have criticized the investigation's pace. Speaker J. Dennis Hastert said he would not support and might block any legislation that extended the life of the panel, which is scheduled to complete its work in May.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/26/us/bush-to-limit-testimony-before- 9- 11-panel.html

Republicans sure seem ALOT more upset about this Benghazi BS than they did about 9/11. Why do you think that is?

Not to mention the fact that no transcription or recording of the interview with the President and Vice President were allowed.  No one but the people in that room will ever know what was asked or what was answered.  For all we know they were in there playing Risk the whole time.


Oh come on... like there's really any chance of that.

Connect Four. MAYBE.

/my money is on Hungry Hungry Hippos.
 
2013-04-18 10:28:52 AM
i49.tinypic.com
 
2013-04-18 10:32:48 AM
I'm so glad they haven't let minor, marginally relevant issues like domestic terrorism distract them from what's really important.
 
2013-04-18 10:35:01 AM

GoodyearPimp: But where we these "let's investigate the shiat out of it" guys regarding 9/11?


9/11?

That was the massive terrorist attack that resulted from Clinton's inaction, right?
 
2013-04-18 10:39:41 AM
It's going to be hilarious in 2016 as Republican primary candidates try to both dodge the Benghazi thing in public while also demagoguing it among their supporters.
 
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