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(Politico)   The media's marathon meltdown. Worse than Chernobyl and sadder than Wolf Blitzer's Jeopardy score, but like a terrible car accident, you can't help but look on in horror at the state of the media   (politico.com) divider line 127
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2013-04-18 11:02:48 AM

trappedspirit: Am I the only person whose life is completely unaffected by "the state of the media?"  Because it seems the media is equally full of people whining about the media.  Why do people give a turd?  Turn it off and do something productive.  Some people act like they are holed up in a compound in Panama with soldiers blaring CNN over loudspeakers.


Also, it's merely a product of people wanting information in "real time".  The trouble is information in "real time" is often volatile if not outright contradictory.    If you don't like volatility in your information, just  get one nightly summary at the end of the day.
 
2013-04-18 11:03:04 AM
Corporate media.
 
2013-04-18 11:07:09 AM

PanicMan: fireclown: We get what we deserve.  You know why CNN airs celebrity nonsense?  Because when they put up solidly researched segments on economics, nobody watches.  When they put up a piece on whatever the hell Lindsey Lohan is doing these days, people watch.

We have met the enemy, and they are us.

But see, I watched those segments.  I watched them religiously.  I was a hard core news junkie, and CNN was my dealer.  That started to change around the 2000 elections.  And then Sept 11 2001 they completely lost any resemblance to actual journalism.

I'm still a news junkie, it's just now Fark and Twitter are my dealers.


Bolded for emphasis. I've gone in this direction, as well. Follow the right people and you'll get a lot more info, but Twitter can be just as convoluted sometimes.
 
2013-04-18 11:18:54 AM

star_topology: Follow the right people and you'll get a lot more info, but Twitter can be just as convoluted sometimes.


Absolutely, there's a lot of crap.  But even the crap can be useful to know what misinformation is out there.  Surprisingly, Anonymous is one of the most accurate news sources I have found.

At home I have a screen dedicated to a program running all my twitter lists at once.  Fark is on my other screen.  It's like mainlining information and I love it.
 
2013-04-18 11:20:10 AM
And while we're on this, what the hell is LZ Granderson doing on CNN commenting on international news?  He's an effing sportswriter.
 
2013-04-18 11:21:02 AM
gambitsgirl:
Did you just search in all this now?

Yep.  It's in my browser history.

Was it already bookmarked?

No, or it would have taken me less than a minute, instead of the 15 minutes it actually took (was trying to see if Kmart or Wal*Mart sold Pyrodex:  I've seen the pellets for sale there during hunting season, but couldn't find it online).  My searching started at 10:11, ended at 10:26 according to my browser history.

Who's at your door?

No one.  Why?  After all, I didn't tell you specifically how to assemble anything, and I'm sure I've got some detail wrong about the devices used.  For example, you don't have to use model rocket igniters.  You could use an incandescent light bulb, or steel wool, or a glow plug, or spark plug, or car cigarette lighter.

Even if it turns out my speculation is spot-on, that doesn't mean much:  My initial thoughts, once I had a chance to think about it, were that it was in some sort of metal pipe like a traditional pipe bomb, and that they were possibly remotely detonated by either radios or cellphones (cellphones being the stupider of the two solutions).

So I was wrong about the container, and probably wrong about the detonation method.

Given the video, though, I stand by my prediction that the filling was either black powder or a black powder substitute (probably the latter as they are easier to find).
 
2013-04-18 11:23:12 AM

Wendy's Chili: LawPD: BalugaJoe: At least they got rid of Solodad Obrien. All she did was play music for 2 hours.

I liked Solodad. Sure the format of her show sucked ass, who the fark cares what some idiot minor celebrity's opinion of the days new is but at least she had the stones to stand up to the people she was interviewing that came on the show to spew bullshiat.

That's precisely why she got the axe.

The management of nearly all media outlets is conservative. Even MSNBC. If their primetime liberal hosts ruffle too many feathers they get sent out to pasture like Phil Donahue, Keith Olbermann, Cenk Uygur, and Ed Schultz regardless of their ratings (Donahue and Olbermann drew the most viewers at the network when they got canned).


I'm gonna have to stop you there for a moment to ask whether Olbermann got canned from Current for his political views - or whether Olbermann actually tends to get canned because he's been an asshole to anyone he's ever worked with.

While you may have a point in the general case, I don't think you're on to much of a certainty with old' Prima Donna Keith.
 
2013-04-18 11:44:31 AM
The Newsroom should start being required viewing at networks.
 
2013-04-18 11:58:25 AM

Mithiwithi: Wendy's Chili: LawPD: BalugaJoe: At least they got rid of Solodad Obrien. All she did was play music for 2 hours.

I liked Solodad. Sure the format of her show sucked ass, who the fark cares what some idiot minor celebrity's opinion of the days new is but at least she had the stones to stand up to the people she was interviewing that came on the show to spew bullshiat.

That's precisely why she got the axe.

The management of nearly all media outlets is conservative. Even MSNBC. If their primetime liberal hosts ruffle too many feathers they get sent out to pasture like Phil Donahue, Keith Olbermann, Cenk Uygur, and Ed Schultz regardless of their ratings (Donahue and Olbermann drew the most viewers at the network when they got canned).

I'm gonna have to stop you there for a moment to ask whether Olbermann got canned from Current for his political views - or whether Olbermann actually tends to get canned because he's been an asshole to anyone he's ever worked with.

While you may have a point in the general case, I don't think you're on to much of a certainty with old' Prima Donna Keith.


Yeah, the man is clearly an insufferable douchebag, but there are plenty of those in television, and his departure from MSNBC came immediately after he was disciplined for donating to Democratic congressional candidates.

He got canned from Current for being too vocal about the shiattiness of their operation.
 
2013-04-18 11:58:56 AM
Fark Politico.
 
2013-04-18 11:59:34 AM
the ny post is much much worse, they farking front page posted pictures of innocent kids asking if these were the bombers the fbi was looking for.  it's like 4chan suddenly was running a shiatty newspaper.

somedude210: for those that missed it, here's the full 90 minutes of fail


thanks for posting that.  i wanted to see that.
 
2013-04-18 12:03:59 PM

Cataholic: It died much sooner than that. Three things happened in relatively quick succession that propelled the 24 hour news network into the position it is in now. First was the Loma Prieta quake in 89. Then the Persian Gulf War just about finished it off..but the Rodney King riots and OJ chase/trial put the final nails in the coffin.


I'd throw the Clarence Thomas confirmation hearings in there also. I seem to remember this being a non-stop news cycle.
 
2013-04-18 12:17:06 PM

Cataholic: It died much sooner than that.  Three things happened in relatively quick succession that propelled the 24 hour news network into the position it is in now.  First was the Loma Prieta quake in 89.  Then the Persian Gulf War just about finished it off..but the Rodney King riots and OJ chase/trial put the final nails in the coffin.


You forgot the fall of the Berlin Wall, and the collapse of the Soviet Union beginning with the 1991 coup attempt.
 
2013-04-18 12:32:16 PM

funk_soul_bubby: Cataholic: It died much sooner than that. Three things happened in relatively quick succession that propelled the 24 hour news network into the position it is in now. First was the Loma Prieta quake in 89. Then the Persian Gulf War just about finished it off..but the Rodney King riots and OJ chase/trial put the final nails in the coffin.

I'd throw the Clarence Thomas confirmation hearings in there also. I seem to remember this being a non-stop news cycle.


yeah, but all of those were different because they still had wait on sources to call, talk, or later send an e-mail.  never mind the difficulties if the story was international.  sure the cameras were rolling, but it wasn't just a stream of nonsense, sometimes it was just silence or letting the images speak for themselves or repeating the same limited reports over and over.  now with twitter, text messaging, and phones that e-mail, there's no pause, so when big events happen in an effort to be first you end up with talking heads reads reading twitter aloud.  that's not how news should work.  that's how high school gossip works.  turns out; mary isn't actually pregnant, katie didn't suck tom's dick, and oh by the way cnn, the schrodinger's suspect has or has not be arrested. it's the speed up that killed them and made them dumb.  to fill 24 hours you can show the same images, say the same shiat (it's might be boring, but it's accurate).  the problem is trying to stay head of the modern mobile internet.
 
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2013-04-18 01:05:05 PM

Wendy's Chili: LawPD: BalugaJoe: At least they got rid of Solodad Obrien. All she did was play music for 2 hours.

I liked Solodad. Sure the format of her show sucked ass, who the fark cares what some idiot minor celebrity's opinion of the days new is but at least she had the stones to stand up to the people she was interviewing that came on the show to spew bullshiat.

That's precisely why she got the axe.

The management of nearly all media outlets is conservative. Even MSNBC. If their primetime liberal hosts ruffle too many feathers they get sent out to pasture like Phil Donahue, Keith Olbermann, Cenk Uygur, and Ed Schultz regardless of their ratings (Donahue and Olbermann drew the most viewers at the network when they got canned).


This. She got canned for calling a VIP liar a liar. She was the best thing going on at CNN, and they canned her anyway. Mediocrity and dumbness are rewarded; smartness and having some brass gets you fired.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-04-18 02:08:26 PM

dittybopper: gja: The media, as a whole, are farktwits. Staffed with trogs who otherwise would be asking "want fries with that?" (with deepest apologies to fast-food purveyors)

See, that's what happens when you hire people with journalism degrees and have them write about stuff they have no comprehension on, instead of hiring people who are experienced in those areas and just coaching them on how to write effectively to a mass audience.


It's very sad indeed. Especially for my generation. I grew up with the likes of Cronkite, Brinkley, Brokaw, Breslin, Koppal, Kuralt, Rather et al..
The new lineage are a pale imitation of the former. And poorly wrought at that.
 
2013-04-18 02:09:32 PM

Glancing Blow: I'd even take Larry King as a replacement.


I'd take Walter Cronkite as a replacement.
 
2013-04-18 02:16:46 PM
I noticed MSNBC was not mentioned in the article.

Not surprising that Politico and MSNBC are basically in bed together in a self-congratulatory romp every day.
 
2013-04-18 03:16:26 PM

gja: It's very sad indeed. Especially for my generation. I grew up with the likes of Cronkite, Brinkley, Brokaw, Breslin, Koppal, Kuralt, Rather et al..
The new lineage are a pale imitation of the former. And poorly wrought at that.


You mean "Fake But Accurate" Rather?

Now, some of the others may have had their faults and biases to one degree or another, but Gunga Dan was a real piece of work.

/Journalism died the moment it was born.
 
2013-04-18 03:35:53 PM

netcentric: MSNBC, at this time, seems like a Political Action Comittee rather anything close to News Broadcasting.


Since the Usual Media Suspects simultaneously began to report the same false information, I say you're right. And that it is "sources" inside this Administration who were doling out the 'for your ears only' tidbits to the newsies.

For Administration purposes, none of which pass a smell test
 
2013-04-18 03:51:48 PM
I love how the left is trying the: "but Fox got it wrong too!!!" angle.

Fox reported it BASED ON CNNs report. They made the mistake of believing CNN wasn't blatantly lying.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-04-18 04:06:08 PM

dittybopper: gja: It's very sad indeed. Especially for my generation. I grew up with the likes of Cronkite, Brinkley, Brokaw, Breslin, Koppal, Kuralt, Rather et al..
The new lineage are a pale imitation of the former. And poorly wrought at that.

You mean "Fake But Accurate" Rather?

Now, some of the others may have had their faults and biases to one degree or another, but Gunga Dan was a real piece of work.

/Journalism died the moment it was born.


Pretty much. Rather was fake-ish, but at least he didn't just pull stuff out of his backside on a slow day to spice things up.
Cronkite, Morrow, Brinkley, Brokaw.....they took their jobs seriously and behaved as such.

The new breed as worthless, like all politicians as well. They only know how to lie.....artfully yes. But liars and disingenuous as they come.
 
2013-04-18 04:25:13 PM

gja: Pretty much. Rather was fake-ish, but at least he didn't just pull stuff out of his backside on a slow day to spice things up.


Rather was actually worse:  He ran with a story he should have known was false, but because of his well known political bias and the opportunity to influence an election, he ran with it, and even when the evidence was overwhelming that it was a false story, he still defended it.

Zero credibility.  None.
 
2013-04-18 05:18:43 PM

Bullseyed: I love how the left is trying the: "but Fox got it wrong too!!!" angle.

Fox reported it BASED ON CNNs report. They made the mistake of believing CNN wasn't blatantly lying.


Not really, CNN sucks. Fox is teh suxors.
 
2013-04-18 07:40:32 PM
What if the bombing was planned by the news companies to increase ad revenue?

The ultimate in reality TV.
 
2013-04-18 09:05:43 PM
This reminds me of the prudes who complain about swearing and cleavage on TV.

Just turn it off you whiners.
 
2013-04-19 08:12:37 AM

brap: karnal: In an interview on MSNBC's 'Morning Joe,' Joe Biden praised and thanked MSNBC for their part in bringing about gun control.

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That is not what he said but I guess paraphrasing and inaccuracies will always have a home on the interwebby and network news.


The Biden's exact quote is:
"Hey Joe, thank you. You have changed the debate in America. The two guys who deserve an award, if anything gets done around here, is you and Michael Bloomberg"
 
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