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2013-04-18 10:34:13 AM  
i.chzbgr.com
 
2013-04-18 10:35:08 AM  
Oh, by the way, did anyone else notice the N. korean guard in the photo from the article using invisible binoculars, WTF is that about?  Did they eat the real ones?
 
2013-04-18 10:36:33 AM  
bitsandpieces.us
 
2013-04-18 10:43:41 AM  

signaljammer: vicioushobbit: This made me lol:  ""Dialogue and war cannot co-exist," the North's National Defence Commission said in the statement carried by the official KCNA news agency. "

Hear that, folks! Once we declare war on this sad little nation, we can stop getting videos from them!

The state of war remains.  There was only an armistice.

US has maintained its hostility toward NK in contradiction of their peace agreement.


I was thinking of the state between US and NK, not NK and SK.  But even still, their war doesn't stop them from yammering at SK all the time.  "Cannot coexist" my arse.
 
2013-04-18 10:44:02 AM  

my_cats_breath_smells_like_cat_food: Oh, by the way, did anyone else notice the N. korean guard in the photo from the article using invisible binoculars, WTF is that about?  Did they eat the real ones?


I just saw that pic. Wow.  Appearances are everything to them.  They don't have binoculars, but they must appear to have them.
 
2013-04-18 10:47:34 AM  
 
2013-04-18 10:47:49 AM  
l2.yimg.com
So ronery.
 
2013-04-18 10:49:34 AM  
Dear Leader:

bmadore.squarespace.com
 
2013-04-18 10:52:44 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-04-18 10:56:28 AM  

Somacandra: No, you little shiat.

Somacandra: No, you little shiat.

Somacandra: No, you little shiat.

 
2013-04-18 10:57:26 AM  

jakomo002: Also, Best Korea is a 3rd world country. They could probably fire one single salvo, and while it would be destructive, they would instantly be invaded and the leadership annihilated.


You know don't what the phrase "third world" means, do you.
 
2013-04-18 10:58:01 AM  

monoski: They need a big cup of "I will give you something to cry about"


Mom?
 
2013-04-18 10:58:46 AM  

MindStalker: hasty ambush: neritz: I see Best Korea has learned how to negotiate like Republicans.

They have more in common with progressives "The [North] Korean people are friends to all progressive minded people in the world," and "the famine in the 1990s, which experts believe killed up to 2.4 million North Koreans, was one example of good governance on the peninsula"

Quality trolling there I see. Quoting the Red Youth as if they represent progressives is like quoting Aryan Nation as if they represent Conservatives.


Except that the American conservatives rely on and echo the words of the Aryan nations to garner votes, whereas the Liberal folks point at people like the so-called communist sympathizers in that article and just shake their heads.
 
2013-04-18 11:02:57 AM  

ChipNASA: biatchES!?????????
WHO biatchES?!?!?!?!?

[i2.asntown.net image 429x527]


Holy hell that is gross.
 
2013-04-18 11:05:23 AM  
I am just thankful that I was not  born in best korea. Talk about a bad hand for the poor people who are.
 
2013-04-18 11:08:10 AM  
See, that's the thing, NK. We don't want dialogue. We want you to SHUT THE F*CK UP. You annoy us.
 
2013-04-18 11:12:58 AM  
s9.postimg.org
 
2013-04-18 11:13:10 AM  
North Korea is like an Asian Westboro Baptist Church.
 
2013-04-18 11:22:01 AM  
Anyone see the BBC documentary from inside the DPRK that was on earlier in the week. Interesting stuff. A country actually, consciously modelled on Nazi Germany, because that's such an awesome idea...
 
2013-04-18 11:29:26 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: You know don't what the phrase "third world" means, do you.


LOL.  Ask yourself that question, professor.

<i><b>What makes a nation third world? </b>

Despite everevolving definitions, the concept of the third world serves to identify countries that suffer from high infant mortality, low economic development, high levels of poverty, low utilization of natural resources, and heavy dependence on industrialized nations. These are the developing and technologically less advanced nations of Asia, Africa, Oceania, and Latin America. Third world nations tend to have economies dependent on the developed countries and are generally characterized as poor with unstable governments and having high rates of population growth, illiteracy, and disease. A key factor is the lack of a middle class - with impoverished millions in a vast lower economic class and a very small elite upper class controlling the country's wealth and resources. Most third world nations also have a very large foreign debt. </i>

It's okay, I accept your apology.   NK fits almost every single definition of a 3rd world country.
 
2013-04-18 11:36:37 AM  

jakomo002: Satanic_Hamster: You know don't what the phrase "third world" means, do you.

LOL.  Ask yourself that question, professor.

<i><b>What makes a nation third world? </b>

Despite everevolving definitions, the concept of the third world serves to identify countries that suffer from high infant mortality, low economic development, high levels of poverty, low utilization of natural resources, and heavy dependence on industrialized nations. These are the developing and technologically less advanced nations of Asia, Africa, Oceania, and Latin America. Third world nations tend to have economies dependent on the developed countries and are generally characterized as poor with unstable governments and having high rates of population growth, illiteracy, and disease. A key factor is the lack of a middle class - with impoverished millions in a vast lower economic class and a very small elite upper class controlling the country's wealth and resources. Most third world nations also have a very large foreign debt. </i>

It's okay, I accept your apology.   NK fits almost every single definition of a 3rd world country.


1st world = Nato and their allies
2nd world = Soviet Union and allies (east European puppet states, China, Cuba, annnnnnnddd NK).
3rd world = shiat holes

NK is a shiathole but they were also commie bastards, which means they're 2nd world, not 3rd world.  Just because a country is a shiathole doesn't mean it's a 3rd world nation.
 
2013-04-18 11:51:16 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: 1st world = Nato and their allies
2nd world = Soviet Union and allies (east European puppet states, China, Cuba, annnnnnnddd NK).
3rd world = shiat holes

NK is a shiathole but they were also commie bastards, which means they're 2nd world, not 3rd world.  Just because a country is a shiathole doesn't mean it's a 3rd world nation.


Your definition makes me think you're probably 12 years old.   Geez, go read a book or something.

North Korea is a 3rd World country.  Just like Iraq was and still is.

Go to google and search for "definition of third world country".
 
2013-04-18 11:53:09 AM  
Though I can imagine your response is:

"I don't need Google to tell me what a 3rd world country is. I'm self-edumacated!"
 
2013-04-18 11:55:59 AM  
Wait, wait, you mean us trying to starve them to death and cause social upheaval through trade embargos and exclusion from the cool kids club is a reason they're upset with us?

Nooooooooooooo.

I will say one thing about nukes, they sure as heck make you take an otherwise dismiss-able state seriously.
 
2013-04-18 11:57:09 AM  
I honestly can't tell if you're trolling or cman.
 
2013-04-18 12:00:07 PM  

bigdanc: Wait, wait, you mean us trying to starve them to death and cause social upheaval through trade embargos and exclusion from the cool kids club is a reason they're upset with us?

Nooooooooooooo.

I will say one thing about nukes, they sure as heck make you take an otherwise dismiss-able state seriously.


Wait, what?  How, exactly, are we trying to starve them?

You realize that all the sanctions are in response to them deliberately violating arms controls agreements and making military strikes on South Korea, right?   And that despite all the starvations, their incompetently run industries continue to drive the country to the ground and instead of investing more money into food and infrastructure they put the money into ICBMs and nukes, right?
 
2013-04-18 12:00:17 PM  

bigdanc: I will say one thing about nukes, they sure as heck make you take an otherwise dismiss-able state seriously.


Yep, and for Iran and North Korea, this is known.
 
2013-04-18 12:03:47 PM  

Deathfrogg: MindStalker: hasty ambush: neritz: I see Best Korea has learned how to negotiate like Republicans.

They have more in common with progressives "The [North] Korean people are friends to all progressive minded people in the world," and "the famine in the 1990s, which experts believe killed up to 2.4 million North Koreans, was one example of good governance on the peninsula"

Quality trolling there I see. Quoting the Red Youth as if they represent progressives is like quoting Aryan Nation as if they represent Conservatives.

Except that the American conservatives rely on and echo the words of the Aryan nations to garner votes, whereas the Liberal folks point at people like the so-called communist sympathizers in that article and just shake their heads.


Just when i thought no one is as retarded as Lil Kim, you prove me wrong with your amazing post
 
2013-04-18 12:04:23 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: I honestly can't tell if you're trolling or cman.


Don't sweat it.  You don't seem very smart in the first place.

"They can't be 3rd world!  They're commies!"
 
2013-04-18 12:07:34 PM  

jakomo002: Satanic_Hamster: 1st world = Nato and their allies
2nd world = Soviet Union and allies (east European puppet states, China, Cuba, annnnnnnddd NK).
3rd world = shiat holes

NK is a shiathole but they were also commie bastards, which means they're 2nd world, not 3rd world.  Just because a country is a shiathole doesn't mean it's a 3rd world nation.

Your definition makes me think you're probably 12 years old.   Geez, go read a book or something.

North Korea is a 3rd World country.  Just like Iraq was and still is.

Go to google and search for "definition of third world country".


On the off chance that you're not trolling: the term 'third world' was coined during the cold war to refer to the world outside the opposing poles that dominated global politics, trade, and society: the world that was neither the American-dominated world or Soviet-dominated world. Most of these third-world countries were poor and undeveloped, and that meaning has colored the term deeply beyond its original intent.

Still, who cares what it 'really means.' It's kind of a useless phrase other than as a mild pejorative. 'Developing' and 'undeveloped' are much more informative if talking about economies, and geopolitical alignment hasn't been binary since the Sino-Soviet split. The only people who use the phrase are those using it to denigrate a poor country (anyone trying to convey information would choose a more informative term) so that's more or less what it means now.
 
2013-04-18 12:10:28 PM  
We've heard this lie before, we've played this game before.
You get what you want, then you break your promises.
And we start over again.

So, in all sincerity,  fark  O  F  F.
 
2013-04-18 12:10:54 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: You realize that all the sanctions are in response to them deliberately violating arms controls agreements and making military strikes on South Korea, right? And that despite all the starvations, their incompetently run industries continue to drive the country to the ground and instead of investing more money into food and infrastructure they put the money into ICBMs and nukes, right?


They came off their nuke program in 07 or 08 as a result of diplomacy and they've just recently restarted their program cause they realized there was no steak to go with the sizzle we sold em.

I'm not sure if that had to do with the global economic down-turn, but whatever we conceded economically we never provided.

I've heard part of it is a power play by fatty cause his generals aren't minding their roles, but that's just speculation.  In any event, A strong, industrialized N. Korea with unshakable economic ties to the US is in our best interest because that would reduce our reliance on China.

Additionally, we could exert a lot more control over their human rights policies which makes a relationship with them have the added benefit of being more ethical than China and US.
 
2013-04-18 12:11:37 PM  
Sorry, chief. If you want America's attention, try back next week. We can pencil you in for Wednesday, mmmkay?
 
2013-04-18 12:16:29 PM  

bigdanc: Wait, wait, you mean us trying to starve them to death and cause social upheaval through trade embargos and exclusion from the cool kids club is a reason they're upset with us?

Nooooooooooooo.

I will say one thing about nukes, they sure as heck make you take an otherwise dismiss-able state seriously.


LOL so now is our fault and not the repressive government?

/ what a maroon
 
2013-04-18 12:19:08 PM  

pkjun: On the off chance that you're not trolling: the term 'third world' was coined during the cold war to refer to the world outside the opposing poles that dominated global politics, trade, and society: the world that was neither the American-dominated world or Soviet-dominated world. Most of these third-world countries were poor and undeveloped, and that meaning has colored the term deeply beyond its original intent.


I really, really hope he's trolling.  The alternative of someone this stupid is just depressing otherwise.

Hell, the very first google result of what he "dared" to be googled shows him to be wrong.

bigdanc: They came off their nuke program in 07 or 08 as a result of diplomacy and they've just recently restarted their program cause they realized there was no steak to go with the sizzle we sold em.


Are you claiming that the US, South Korea, or Japan failed to deliver something from our promises?   North Korea agreed to stop developing nukes and to stop exporting missile tech in exchange for food and fuel aid.  We gave them that.  Every time they violated those agreements we retaliated with sanctions.  North Korea's entire argument comes down to "give us free stuff or we'll murder people."
 
2013-04-18 12:19:56 PM  

jakomo002: Satanic_Hamster: You know don't what the phrase "third world" means, do you.

LOL.  Ask yourself that question, professor.

<i><b>What makes a nation third world? </b>

Despite everevolving definitions, the concept of the third world serves to identify countries that suffer from high infant mortality, low economic development, high levels of poverty, low utilization of natural resources, and heavy dependence on industrialized nations. These are the developing and technologically less advanced nations of Asia, Africa, Oceania, and Latin America. Third world nations tend to have economies dependent on the developed countries and are generally characterized as poor with unstable governments and having high rates of population growth, illiteracy, and disease. A key factor is the lack of a middle class - with impoverished millions in a vast lower economic class and a very small elite upper class controlling the country's wealth and resources. Most third world nations also have a very large foreign debt. </i>

It's okay, I accept your apology.   NK fits almost every single definition of a 3rd world country.


So does the US.
 
2013-04-18 12:21:32 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: jakomo002: Satanic_Hamster: You know don't what the phrase "third world" means, do you.

LOL.  Ask yourself that question, professor.

<i><b>What makes a nation third world? </b>

Despite everevolving definitions, the concept of the third world serves to identify countries that suffer from high infant mortality, low economic development, high levels of poverty, low utilization of natural resources, and heavy dependence on industrialized nations. These are the developing and technologically less advanced nations of Asia, Africa, Oceania, and Latin America. Third world nations tend to have economies dependent on the developed countries and are generally characterized as poor with unstable governments and having high rates of population growth, illiteracy, and disease. A key factor is the lack of a middle class - with impoverished millions in a vast lower economic class and a very small elite upper class controlling the country's wealth and resources. Most third world nations also have a very large foreign debt. </i>

It's okay, I accept your apology.   NK fits almost every single definition of a 3rd world country.

1st world = Nato and their allies
2nd world = Soviet Union and allies (east European puppet states, China, Cuba, annnnnnnddd NK).
3rd world = shiat holes

NK is a shiathole but they were also commie bastards, which means they're 2nd world, not 3rd world.  Just because a country is a shiathole doesn't mean it's a 3rd world nation.


China and Cuba are def not the same world.
 
2013-04-18 12:24:38 PM  

ransack.: China and Cuba are def not the same world.


Yes, they are.  They're part of the very definition of "second world" countries.  Are you trying to claim they weren't communist allies of the Soviet Union during the Cold War?
 
2013-04-18 12:30:05 PM  

bigdanc: Satanic_Hamster: You realize that all the sanctions are in response to them deliberately violating arms controls agreements and making military strikes on South Korea, right? And that despite all the starvations, their incompetently run industries continue to drive the country to the ground and instead of investing more money into food and infrastructure they put the money into ICBMs and nukes, right?

They came off their nuke program in 07 or 08 as a result of diplomacy and they've just recently restarted their program cause they realized there was no steak to go with the sizzle we sold em.

I'm not sure if that had to do with the global economic down-turn, but whatever we conceded economically we never provided.

I've heard part of it is a power play by fatty cause his generals aren't minding their roles, but that's just speculation.  In any event, A strong, industrialized N. Korea with unshakable economic ties to the US is in our best interest because that would reduce our reliance on China.

Additionally, we could exert a lot more control over their human rights policies which makes a relationship with them have the added benefit of being more ethical than China and US.


This is patently false. We refused to continue aid because they refused to substantiate their claims of having actually shut down their program. The steak was conditional. We began withholding it when they stopped documenting their 'disarmament,' and we cut it off entirely when they began testing ICBMs.

The second half of your statement is laughable. DPRK is decades from being a 'strong, industrialized' country no matter how much investment anyone dumps in it. Hell, its utter backwardness might be the biggest reason it still exists; neither ROK or PRC or USA want to be responsible for the millions of refugees or the economic black hole they'd be fleeing. And as for 'control?' The Chinese can't control them, and they're the closest thing to a friend DPRK has. Hell, the North Koreans renege on trade deals and nationalize entire Chinese-owned factories and mines all the time. But I'm sure they'd treat us better!

China is moving towards a post-manufacturing society. If you're worried about securing cheap manufacturing for the future, invest in Africa. The Chinese certainly are.
 
2013-04-18 12:30:48 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: ransack.: China and Cuba are def not the same world.

Yes, they are.


Only if you traveled here directly from the 80's. The meaning of the term "third world" has changed since then.
 
2013-04-18 12:38:18 PM  
Dear NK,

The US is rather cranky right now, one wrong step and you might actually get to know how functional nukes work. Or at least a few couple dozen drones.

Love,

The Rest of the World
 
2013-04-18 12:42:02 PM  

odinsposse: Satanic_Hamster: ransack.: China and Cuba are def not the same world.

Yes, they are.

Only if you traveled here directly from the 80's. The meaning of the term "third world" has changed since then.


As pkjun pointed out a few posts above, the term is outdated and should no longer be used.
 
2013-04-18 12:42:24 PM  
"The United States has offered talks, but on the pre-condition that they lead to North Korea abandoning its nuclear weapons ambitions. North Korea deems its nuclear arms a "treasured sword" and has vowed never to give them up."

Well, heck, let's "Air Mail" them a few more, then...
 
2013-04-18 12:47:04 PM  

Soulcatcher: jakomo002: Satanic_Hamster: You know don't what the phrase "third world" means, do you.

LOL.  Ask yourself that question, professor.

<i><b>What makes a nation third world? </b>

Despite everevolving definitions, the concept of the third world serves to identify countries that suffer from high infant mortality, low economic development, high levels of poverty, low utilization of natural resources, and heavy dependence on industrialized nations. These are the developing and technologically less advanced nations of Asia, Africa, Oceania, and Latin America. Third world nations tend to have economies dependent on the developed countries and are generally characterized as poor with unstable governments and having high rates of population growth, illiteracy, and disease. A key factor is the lack of a middle class - with impoverished millions in a vast lower economic class and a very small elite upper class controlling the country's wealth and resources. Most third world nations also have a very large foreign debt. </i>

It's okay, I accept your apology.   NK fits almost every single definition of a 3rd world country.

So does the US.


Haha, that is a good one.
 
2013-04-18 12:47:15 PM  

odinsposse: Satanic_Hamster: ransack.: China and Cuba are def not the same world.

Yes, they are.

Only if you traveled here directly from the 80's. The meaning of the term "third world" has changed since then.


Thank you.
 
2013-04-18 12:50:50 PM  

odinsposse: Satanic_Hamster: ransack.: China and Cuba are def not the same world.

Yes, they are.

Only if you traveled here directly from the 80's. The meaning of the term "third world" has changed since then.


Oh, so that explains the hundreds of consumer products in my American home stamped MADE IN CUBA. I always wondered about that.
 
2013-04-18 12:51:00 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: ransack.: China and Cuba are def not the same world.

Yes, they are.  They're part of the very definition of "second world" countries.  Are you trying to claim they weren't communist allies of the Soviet Union during the Cold War?


They were, but they aren't. I'm with you insofar as you are undeniably correct on the gross inaccuracy of calling DPRK 'third-world.' But I don't think that 'second-world' is a remotely useful term nowadays. As you point out, the sole criterion for that classification is a political alignment that has not been in practical effect since Nixon went to China, and which has been purely historical for over two decades.

The three-worlds phrasing isn't relevant to the modern world. I'm fine with scorning the use of 'third world' to refer to the last Stalinist state in the world, but replacing it with 'second world' has very limited utility.
 
2013-04-18 12:51:43 PM  

ransack.: odinsposse: Satanic_Hamster: ransack.: China and Cuba are def not the same world.

Yes, they are.

Only if you traveled here directly from the 80's. The meaning of the term "third world" has changed since then.

Oh, so that explains the hundreds of consumer products in my American home stamped MADE IN CUBA. I always wondered about that.


Eh responded to the wrong post. You get the point.
 
2013-04-18 01:00:28 PM  

pkjun: They were, but they aren't. I'm with you insofar as you are undeniably correct on the gross inaccuracy of calling DPRK 'third-world.' But I don't think that 'second-world' is a remotely useful term nowadays. As you point out, the sole criterion for that classification is a political alignment that has not been in practical effect since Nixon went to China, and which has been purely historical for over two decades.

The three-worlds phrasing isn't relevant to the modern world. I'm fine with scorning the use of 'third world' to refer to the last Stalinist state in the world, but replacing it with 'second world' has very limited utility.


Oh, it's completely outdated.  But being outdated doesn't mean that every ignoramus on the internet can redefine it at will, use it in a discussion, and expect people to know what they're talking about.  Look at what that kind of crap thinking as done to the use of liberal/conservative/socialist/communist/etc etc.
 
2013-04-18 01:04:44 PM  
It's a good lesson for anyone acting like a  6-year old.  You mustn't reward bad behavior.
 
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