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(LA Times)   Apparently, Disney execs never read the book "Marketing 101 - Reaching the Saturation Point"   (herocomplex.latimes.com) divider line 112
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2013-04-18 08:34:45 AM
So much for this IP being brought back to any level of quality. I wonder how long these films will keep making money before people get tired of all things Star Wars.
 
2013-04-18 09:03:07 AM
Oh, I'm afraid the production team will be quite operational when your complaints arrive
 
2013-04-18 09:04:12 AM
Same thing happened with the books.
 
2013-04-18 09:05:18 AM
I was afraid of this. But what can you expect from a company who's making multiple Avengers movies, a separate movie for almost every separate Avenger and a TV show?
 
2013-04-18 09:16:56 AM

Mugato: I was afraid of this. But what can you expect from a company who's making multiple Avengers movies, a separate movie for almost every separate Avenger and a TV show?


Hey if I had a goose that was shiatting golden eggs I'd be milking it dry too
 
2013-04-18 09:18:38 AM
There was a Harry Potter movie out practically every year for a long while... people didn't seem to have any problem with that.
 
2013-04-18 09:22:52 AM

ThatGuyGreg: There was a Harry Potter movie out practically every year for a long while... people didn't seem to have any problem with that.


Do you see any Potter films scheduled to be released this year, or next? No? Maybe that's because they decided to end the series of films after the written source material was completely tapped.

We're not looking at Harry Potter 23: The Middle Age Years.

Disney is planning on releasing Star Wars films continuously, with no clear end in sight.
 
2013-04-18 09:23:49 AM
Geez! Nothing like wearing a subject out until everyone gets sick of it.

I took my 'little' brother to see Star Wars when it first came out. He loved it. I had my doubts (mainly because why would a super advanced civilization go running around dressed as folks did around 1 AD) and now my brother is married, all growed up, his kid is in college and they're still hammering out Stars Wars junk.

I enjoyed Star Trek when it first came out -- but 20 years down the road and several assorted incorporations later, I was sick of it.

I loved "Alien" 1 and 2. By the time '4' came around, I was thinking I could write a better plot. Then came 'Prometheus' and they built it basically around the 'Alien' premise.

I shudder to think how they might combine Prometheus 3 with Alien and Predator.

We need some new, fresh Sci-fi writers.
 
2013-04-18 09:29:04 AM

ThatGuyGreg: There was a Harry Potter movie out practically every year for a long while... people didn't seem to have any problem with that.


Well because those were based on 7 books. Yes, they split the last book, but I think it was a good decision as that was the one they needed to tell the most story. They also stopped making them as soon as they finished with the canon books.

These Star Wars will be the Call of Duty franchise of the movie world.
 
2013-04-18 09:45:56 AM
There's also the chance it's direct to video stuff... lord knows Disney loves that.

/just sayin
 
2013-04-18 09:56:05 AM
So let me get this straight. They cancelled The Clone Wars series, the shining gem of the current Star Wars brand and a show with great ratings. Then they shut down the production studio that's been working on a bounty hunter game that has been highly anticipated and the drips and drabs shown at Comic Con got rave reviews, because they wanted to protect the brand from over saturation?

Really?
 
2013-04-18 09:56:50 AM
They are doing two a year with Marvel and its working, so I'd say they know about the saturation point. They're happy to test is while they print money.
 
2013-04-18 09:57:02 AM

ThatGuyGreg: There's also the chance it's direct to video stuff... lord knows Disney loves that.

/just sayin


Ooh, more Ewok films.
 
2013-04-18 09:59:34 AM
If I get a Boba Fett movie. Im good! Do not care if its a Direct to DvD. I want a dark Star Wars movie with the smugglers and bounty hunters.
 
2013-04-18 10:02:51 AM

yves0010: If I get a Boba Fett movie. Im good! Do not care if its a Direct to DvD. I want a dark Star Wars movie with the smugglers and bounty hunters.


I'm in if it features Chewbacca's severed head.
 
2013-04-18 10:04:12 AM

ThatGuyGreg: There was a Harry Potter movie out practically every year for a long while... people didn't seem to have any problem with that.


They had to do all 7 books before the kids aged out of the roles. Plus there was a one year gap between every other film so the cast and crew would't get burnt out.
 
2013-04-18 10:04:16 AM

yves0010: If I get a Boba Fett movie. Im good! Do not care if its a Direct to DvD. I want a dark Star Wars movie with the smugglers and bounty hunters.



What's the deal with him?  I got the special figure with the glued in missile backpack when I was a kid and thought he was kinda cool.  But he really seems one note.  So can someone explain to me the fan obsession with Mr. Fett?
 
2013-04-18 10:06:12 AM

yves0010: If I get a Boba Fett movie. Im good! Do not care if its a Direct to DvD. I want a dark Star Wars movie with the smugglers and bounty hunters.


Yank a couple stories from this:

images1.wikia.nocookie.net

And I'll be satisfied. Boba Fett's was pretty good, but IG-88's was awesome.
 
2013-04-18 10:07:29 AM

BafflerMeal: yves0010: If I get a Boba Fett movie. Im good! Do not care if its a Direct to DvD. I want a dark Star Wars movie with the smugglers and bounty hunters.


What's the deal with him?  I got the special figure with the glued in missile backpack when I was a kid and thought he was kinda cool.  But he really seems one note.  So can someone explain to me the fan obsession with Mr. Fett?


Personally, I grew up with the 64 games and the movie series on VHS and I always thought Fett was a badass. He was one of the first difficult bosses I faced in my early years of gaming (Shadows of the Empire). Since then, he became one of my favorite background characters in the series.
 
2013-04-18 10:08:00 AM
I don't see how this is over saturation. Star Wars is one of the most popular film series of all time, consisting of six movies and one tv series over  thirty five years.  A movie every year (main storyline and side stories) isn't going to ruin anything.  Star Wars is an open ended universe, not a series of books with a definite conclusion like Harry potter.
 
2013-04-18 10:08:49 AM

Rik01: Geez! Nothing like wearing a subject out until everyone gets sick of it.

I took my 'little' brother to see Star Wars when it first came out. He loved it. I had my doubts (mainly because why would a super advanced civilization go running around dressed as folks did around 1 AD) and now my brother is married, all growed up, his kid is in college and they're still hammering out Stars Wars junk.

I enjoyed Star Trek when it first came out -- but 20 years down the road and several assorted incorporations later, I was sick of it.

I loved "Alien" 1 and 2. By the time '4' came around, I was thinking I could write a better plot. Then came 'Prometheus' and they built it basically around the 'Alien' premise.

I shudder to think how they might combine Prometheus 3 with Alien and Predator.

We need some new, fresh Sci-fi writers.


1966 was a lot more than 20 years ago, by the way.
 
2013-04-18 10:09:41 AM

BafflerMeal: yves0010: If I get a Boba Fett movie. Im good! Do not care if its a Direct to DvD. I want a dark Star Wars movie with the smugglers and bounty hunters.


What's the deal with him?  I got the special figure with the glued in missile backpack when I was a kid and thought he was kinda cool.  But he really seems one note.  So can someone explain to me the fan obsession with Mr. Fett?


Badass bounty hunter with little to say. The funny thing is he never really did anything exciting. Captured Solo (with the obvious help of Vader), Stood by Jabba, was defeated by a blind Solo, and ended up in the Sarlacc.

The fans loved him so much that they pretty much canonized that he survived the Sarlacc (only person known to do that, unless I'm behind on the SW stuff) and went on bounty hunting.

I loved him because he looked badass. The helmet was great. He had fancy gadgets and weapons out the wazoo. He also had a fun boss battle in the Shadows of the Empire N64 game.
 
2013-04-18 10:10:52 AM

yves0010: BafflerMeal: yves0010: If I get a Boba Fett movie. Im good! Do not care if its a Direct to DvD. I want a dark Star Wars movie with the smugglers and bounty hunters.


What's the deal with him?  I got the special figure with the glued in missile backpack when I was a kid and thought he was kinda cool.  But he really seems one note.  So can someone explain to me the fan obsession with Mr. Fett?

Personally, I grew up with the 64 games and the movie series on VHS and I always thought Fett was a badass. He was one of the first difficult bosses I faced in my early years of gaming (Shadows of the Empire). Since then, he became one of my favorite background characters in the series.


Ok, that makes sense I guess.  Personal exposure.  For me he was that briefly animated guy from Star Wars x-mas special (go find it, wookie porn is hilarious) and the special order action figure.  Then he didn't do much and died quickly in the last film and I never saw him again.
 
2013-04-18 10:11:18 AM

yves0010: Personally, I grew up with the 64 games and the movie series on VHS and I always thought Fett was a badass. He was one of the first difficult bosses I faced in my early years of gaming (Shadows of the Empire). Since then, he became one of my favorite background characters in the series.


Holy crap I hadn't even seen your post! Yea he had a very fun level and boss battle. Destroying Slave I was great.
 
2013-04-18 10:13:28 AM

BafflerMeal: What's the deal with him?  I got the special figure with the glued in missile backpack when I was a kid and thought he was kinda cool.  But he really seems one note.  So can someone explain to me the fan obsession with Mr. Fett?


Because he looks really cool, is the only guy to talk back to Vader and since he didn't do much, it let people use their imagination.
 
2013-04-18 10:14:39 AM

scottydoesntknow: BafflerMeal: yves0010: If I get a Boba Fett movie. Im good! Do not care if its a Direct to DvD. I want a dark Star Wars movie with the smugglers and bounty hunters.


What's the deal with him?  I got the special figure with the glued in missile backpack when I was a kid and thought he was kinda cool.  But he really seems one note.  So can someone explain to me the fan obsession with Mr. Fett?

Badass bounty hunter with little to say. The funny thing is he never really did anything exciting. Captured Solo (with the obvious help of Vader), Stood by Jabba, was defeated by a blind Solo, and ended up in the Sarlacc.

The fans loved him so much that they pretty much canonized that he survived the Sarlacc (only person known to do that, unless I'm behind on the SW stuff) and went on bounty hunting.

I loved him because he looked badass. The helmet was great. He had fancy gadgets and weapons out the wazoo. He also had a fun boss battle in the Shadows of the Empire N64 game.


I heard he survived the sarlacc pit twice. He come how got eaten again. And cannon wise, he was the first to survive that we saw but was not the first in the timeline. Starkiller journeyed into a sarlacc and was spit out as well but I think it might not count. He was not technically eaten by the monster. Just took an elevator into it and got spit out.
 
2013-04-18 10:14:45 AM
1 a year might not be so bad. Some will be direct-to-DVD or TV specials. Some will be features. There is a huge amount of material they can pull from if they're willing to, occasionally, abandon the Skywalker era and go into Old Republic territory. Giving some historical Sith their own movies would be nice as well.

It might not be THAT bad. Granted that it probably will be pretty bad, but I can still have a little hope.
 
2013-04-18 10:14:49 AM

yves0010: If I get a Boba Fett movie. Im good! Do not care if its a Direct to DvD. I want a dark Star Wars movie with the smugglers and bounty hunters.


I'm gonna go ahead and say that you're out of luck on this one. If you were an Ewok enthusiast or a fan of Jar Jar Binks, I might have better news.
 
2013-04-18 10:16:29 AM
why can't we have sith centric movies?  why does it always have to be about the good guys?  why not make Luke a sith?
 
2013-04-18 10:18:21 AM

scottydoesntknow: yves0010: Personally, I grew up with the 64 games and the movie series on VHS and I always thought Fett was a badass. He was one of the first difficult bosses I faced in my early years of gaming (Shadows of the Empire). Since then, he became one of my favorite background characters in the series.

Holy crap I hadn't even seen your post! Yea he had a very fun level and boss battle. Destroying Slave I was great.


I was 10 when that game came out. And Boba Fett was always a PIA. Did not help that when I first saw Slave 1. I was intimidated and usually just stopped playing. But once I finally fought him, best boss battle in that game. And it is the point where you feel invincible.
 
2013-04-18 10:20:09 AM
This has a potential to not be horrible as long as Lucas is at most tangentially involved.
 
2013-04-18 10:20:27 AM

Mugato: BafflerMeal: What's the deal with him?  I got the special figure with the glued in missile backpack when I was a kid and thought he was kinda cool.  But he really seems one note.  So can someone explain to me the fan obsession with Mr. Fett?

Because he looks really cool, is the only guy to talk back to Vader and since he didn't do much, it let people use their imagination.


Tarkin.
 
2013-04-18 10:20:36 AM
I hope they do a new Holiday Special just for the lulz.
 
2013-04-18 10:20:55 AM

Barricaded Gunman: yves0010: If I get a Boba Fett movie. Im good! Do not care if its a Direct to DvD. I want a dark Star Wars movie with the smugglers and bounty hunters.

I'm gonna go ahead and say that you're out of luck on this one. If you were an Ewok enthusiast or a fan of Jar Jar Binks, I might have better news.


I dont know. Disney does have the ability to make dark story lines. And why not make a Pirates (the first good one) like Star Wars movie. Something that is much more darker then normal. Or even an Empire like atmosphere where it focuses on an original trilogy empire storyline.
 
2013-04-18 10:21:03 AM
Hollywood execs read?  Seriously?

Only saying that because if they actually did read, they'd figure out that half the ideas they put out there are sh*t and not worth the paper they're printed on.
 
2013-04-18 10:23:14 AM
I bet they make another Christmas special.
 
2013-04-18 10:25:34 AM

Mugato: BafflerMeal: What's the deal with him?  I got the special figure with the glued in missile backpack when I was a kid and thought he was kinda cool.  But he really seems one note.  So can someone explain to me the fan obsession with Mr. Fett?

Because he looks really cool, is the only guy to talk back to Vader and since he didn't do much, it let people use their imagination.


Vader also had to specifically admonish him on his methods. It's like, "How badass is this dude if Vader himself has to tell him to rein it in? And the guy only grudgingly agreed!"
 
2013-04-18 10:27:20 AM

yves0010: If I get a Boba Fett movie. Im good! Do not care if its a Direct to DvD. I want a dark Star Wars movie with the smugglers and bounty hunters.


I don't remember where I saw it, but that is the plan, with a Fett movie already in the works. We'll have a proper Episode every 3-4 years with various character or filler movies in between. That's how the Zach Snyder Seven Samurai rumor started.

With the multiple time zones (OT, Preqs, Old Republic, Hyperspace Wars, etc.) they have now, they could make movies forever.

/I still think a Seven Samurai like in the SW universe movie would be awesome.
//Disney should just give the animation studio that did the Cinematics to SWTOR about a quarter billion and tell them to come up with two or three movies
 
2013-04-18 10:27:52 AM

yves0010: scottydoesntknow: yves0010: Personally, I grew up with the 64 games and the movie series on VHS and I always thought Fett was a badass. He was one of the first difficult bosses I faced in my early years of gaming (Shadows of the Empire). Since then, he became one of my favorite background characters in the series.

Holy crap I hadn't even seen your post! Yea he had a very fun level and boss battle. Destroying Slave I was great.

I was 10 when that game came out. And Boba Fett was always a PIA. Did not help that when I first saw Slave 1. I was intimidated and usually just stopped playing. But once I finally fought him, best boss battle in that game. And it is the point where you feel invincible.


The one battle that actually got me was IG-88. His creepy ass walk and unflinching chase got me. It wasn't like he would fly somewhere else, he was always right in front of you or just stalking you in that slow creepy manner. I'd compare it to the first Terminator when the metal T-800 is just slowly stalking them.
 
2013-04-18 10:32:55 AM
Disney might stop after two projects in a row lose money, but I'm guessing it would have to be an awful lot of money.

That's really the only way to measure 'saturation'.

It might hurt some people's feelings if they make lots and lots of Star Wars movies, but until it hurts some people's wallets, Disney would be stupid to stop.
 
2013-04-18 10:35:29 AM
As long as they've got guys like Kasdan on board to work on the plot, I'm fine with it.  Besides - the more Star Wars movies, the more Star Wars  porn parodies ... so everybody wins.
 
2013-04-18 10:35:34 AM

yves0010: scottydoesntknow: yves0010: Personally, I grew up with the 64 games and the movie series on VHS and I always thought Fett was a badass. He was one of the first difficult bosses I faced in my early years of gaming (Shadows of the Empire). Since then, he became one of my favorite background characters in the series.

I was 10 when that game came out. And Boba Fett was always a PIA. Did not help that when I first saw Slave 1. I was intimidated and usually just stopped playing. But once I finally fought him, best boss battle in that game. And it is the point where you feel invincible.


I think one of the cool things about Shadows of the Empire is that the Boba Fett Level goes on forever before you reach him. It's the only level that has a mini boss midway through it and it feels like an accomplishment when you get to finally fight him. Shadows had a lot of problems, but the Hoth, Boba Fett and Skyhook stages got it right.

That being said, can I get a Wraith Squadron movie or show please?
 
2013-04-18 10:36:24 AM
Not a huge fan of Disney but having to nieces that were obsessed with that shiate taught me that they're actually VERY good at restricting their back catalogue and making re-releases a "big deal."
 
2013-04-18 10:38:53 AM
"Released from out vaults FOR A LIMITED TIME ONLY!"

/Artificial scarcity, how does it work.
 
2013-04-18 10:40:04 AM

yves0010: Barricaded Gunman: yves0010: If I get a Boba Fett movie. Im good! Do not care if its a Direct to DvD. I want a dark Star Wars movie with the smugglers and bounty hunters.

I'm gonna go ahead and say that you're out of luck on this one. If you were an Ewok enthusiast or a fan of Jar Jar Binks, I might have better news.

I dont know. Disney does have the ability to make dark story lines. And why not make a Pirates (the first good one) like Star Wars movie. Something that is much more darker then normal. Or even an Empire like atmosphere where it focuses on an original trilogy empire storyline.



I hope you're right, but I really feel like any future Star Wars movie that doesn't lend itself to Happy Meal tie-ins just isn't going to get made.
 
2013-04-18 10:40:48 AM
After the drought of Star Wars stuff following return of the Jedi that led me to putting up with everything Star Wars related from the late 80s until the prequels, all I can see is Satan shoving donuts into Homer's mouth. "So, you like Star Wars? Have all the Star Wars you want!"
 
2013-04-18 10:41:34 AM
I've seen the 3 movies. 'Bout time they made some more.
 
2013-04-18 10:41:52 AM

ThatGuyGreg: There was a Harry Potter movie out practically every year for a long while... people didn't seem to have any problem with that.


First off, there were 7 original Harry Potter books. Secondly, this is a franchise that hit its prime 30 years ago, was ruined by its creator 10 years ago, and most people just want it to be over now. Third, Disney is the king of lowering shiat to the lowest common denominator, further ruining the francise. Lastly, The Harry Potter movies you referenced came to an end, and that was it. Star Wars ended with Return of the Jedi. The story wrapped up, there's nothing left to tell.
 
2013-04-18 10:42:38 AM

BafflerMeal: yves0010: If I get a Boba Fett movie. Im good! Do not care if its a Direct to DvD. I want a dark Star Wars movie with the smugglers and bounty hunters.


What's the deal with him?  I got the special figure with the glued in missile backpack when I was a kid and thought he was kinda cool.  But he really seems one note.  So can someone explain to me the fan obsession with Mr. Fett?


In the original trilogy Darth Vader summons bounty hunters to his personal flag ship and offers them "a substantial reward for the one who finds the Millennium Falcon. You are free to use any methods necessary but I want them alive." He then stops in front of Bobba Fett, raises a finger and says to him and only him "...and no disintegrations."

The combination of how bad-ass he looked with the fact that Darth Vader singled him out created an instant mystery behind him. Fans took to it. Who was this guy? Why did Vader feel the need to single him out? Is disintegrating people something he does so regularly that it was worth clarifying? Then ultimately he does track the Millenium Falcon. He figured they were still close, he figured they were stuck to the hull, and he figured they'd "float away with the trash" and did the same. You never even hear from the other bounty hunters again.

It was a perfect storm that captured the imagination of the fans.
 
2013-04-18 10:43:29 AM

Ima_Lurker: I enjoyed Star Trek when it first came out -- but 20 years down the road and several assorted incorporations later, I was sick of it.


1966 was a lot more than 20 years ago, by the way.


He could have gotten sick of it in the late 80's.
 
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