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(Fark)   Texas Department of Public Safety and Texas Rangers are asking anyone who is self-dispatching to help at the West, TX explosion DO NOT DO SO. They have too many responders without any chain of control at this time   (fark.com) divider line 194
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2013-04-18 01:16:21 AM
If you could please post this as a PSA for anyone, not just Firefighters, Law Enforcement, or EMS.

If you are in the area, do NOT go yourself to help unless you are part of a response agency or called to do so.
 
2013-04-18 01:18:22 AM
But what if I'm part of an emergency looting crew?
 
2013-04-18 01:20:18 AM
Theres such a thing as too much help?  Wouldnt it make more sense to arrive and stand by out of the way?  Or is the thought process that people dont know what "out of the way" is?
 
2013-04-18 01:21:50 AM

Frederick: Theres such a thing as too much help?


Without an organizational structure, yes.  And it's middle of the night now obviously.  You'd just be in the way.
 
2013-04-18 01:22:10 AM
Now I know why the Rangers are two games back. No initiative.
 
2013-04-18 01:22:17 AM

2xhelix: But what if I'm part of an emergency looting crew?


In all seriousness, this is apparantly becoming a huge problem on the scene right now. They have too many random people, Emergency Responders from other districts who were not dispatched to the scene, and too many "volunteer well doers" to establish scene command and accountability.

Seriously, If you're not dispatched, do not go. You will only endanger yourself and others at this point.

If you want to help and are in the area, contact your local hospitals or red cross and see what they need.
 
2013-04-18 01:26:39 AM
I'm 70 miles from West, and won't be self-dispatching anytime soon..

If you're close, go donate blood first thing in the morning.
 
2013-04-18 01:30:46 AM
CBS News says according to head of local EMS, death toll is at 60.
 
2013-04-18 01:31:55 AM
Then I shall stay at home and self dispatch, if you know what I mean.
 
2013-04-18 01:32:07 AM

vicejay: CBS News says according to head of local EMS, death toll is at 60.


Including five firefighters and 2 EMS workers, their station was flattened in the blast and the Firefighters were working a fire on scene at the plant.

Death toll is expected to rise. There are some statements from MDs in the area on Paramedics on Facebook that indicate the toll may be approaching 100, especially with the collapse search underway at the nursing home.
 
2013-04-18 01:32:56 AM
ok, im on my way
 
2013-04-18 01:33:07 AM
im sure that nobody knows the real death toll yet since they cannot get close enough to the charred blown to pieces bodies?

/too soon?
 
2013-04-18 01:33:37 AM

Frederick: Theres such a thing as too much help?  Wouldnt it make more sense to arrive and stand by out of the way?  Or is the thought process that people dont know what "out of the way" is?


There's not really such a thing as "out of the way" in a large-scale industrial accident like this.  The time required to tell you to fark off can be enough time wasted to get people killed.
 
2013-04-18 01:33:45 AM

vicejay: CBS News says according to head of local EMS, death toll is at 60.


Sh*t. This week sucks.
 
2013-04-18 01:34:02 AM
Don't worry they all are coming in a single file line and the place will have burn to the ground before half of them get there.

I hope they upgraded to haz mat units
 
2013-04-18 01:34:07 AM
My husband's family lives in West. We have not been able to contact anyone. I'm so worried :(
 
2013-04-18 01:34:13 AM
I was gonna drive over to help but I'm a little drunk.

Also I'm 4000km away. And a little drunk.
 
2013-04-18 01:35:02 AM
Hell's Week.
 
2013-04-18 01:35:47 AM

Jim_Callahan: There's not really such a thing as "out of the way" in a large-scale industrial accident like this.  The time required to tell you to fark off can be enough time wasted to get people killed.


Especially since they're talking about the possibility of more explosions at the site that big.

Not the time to be running around with good intentions and shiat idea what's going on around you.
 
2013-04-18 01:36:49 AM
'Hey, Boyd, wat you oughta do, is go piss on that dadgum son of a biatch. Remember in junior VFW ROTC training how you were the best !? Go give that fire a Texas welcome. REMEMBER THE ALAMO !!!!' (truck burnin' rubber sound in the background).

/yeah buddy
 
2013-04-18 01:36:54 AM

RavenOnyx: My husband's family lives in West. We have not been able to contact anyone. I'm so worried :(


I'd check the proximity of their house to the explosion on google maps. Here's hoping that they're well out of the way.
 
2013-04-18 01:37:03 AM

RavenOnyx: My husband's family lives in West. We have not been able to contact anyone. I'm so worried :(


Oh god. Hope the best for your family. :(
 
2013-04-18 01:38:57 AM
hardinparamedic: Firefighters were working a fire on scene at the plant.

It's sad. Sad that they died. Sad that they ran in there not knowing what they were dealing with.

I still can't get over the apparent fact that the firefighters didn't understand the danger of a massive explosion. If they did, they would have held back and focused on setting up a perimeter and evac.
 
2013-04-18 01:39:00 AM

RavenOnyx: My husband's family lives in West. We have not been able to contact anyone. I'm so worried :(


Thoughts to them. Hopefully they're ok. Keep trying.
 
2013-04-18 01:39:05 AM
Starting to see a trickle of people updating on FB that they are ok. Still a few we have no word on. Keeping fingers crossed.
 
2013-04-18 01:40:17 AM

RavenOnyx: My husband's family lives in West. We have not been able to contact anyone. I'm so worried :(


Phone lines are down in the Area. Cell sites are probably overloaded by emergency communications too.

Try the Red Cross website. They may be establishing operations near there, and I'm sure shelters are open.
 
2013-04-18 01:40:18 AM

Uakronkid: hardinparamedic: Firefighters were working a fire on scene at the plant.

It's sad. Sad that they died. Sad that they ran in there not knowing what they were dealing with.

I still can't get over the apparent fact that the firefighters didn't understand the danger of a massive explosion. If they did, they would have held back and focused on setting up a perimeter and evac.


they were volunteers.  In a town of 2700 I wonder how many fires they even fought.
 
2013-04-18 01:41:26 AM

Uakronkid: hardinparamedic: Firefighters were working a fire on scene at the plant.

It's sad. Sad that they died. Sad that they ran in there not knowing what they were dealing with.

I still can't get over the apparent fact that the firefighters didn't understand the danger of a massive explosion. If they did, they would have held back and focused on setting up a perimeter and evac.


That's the thing. All we know is that there was a small fire on the site before the explosion. We don't know anything more than that.
 
2013-04-18 01:41:27 AM

RavenOnyx: My husband's family lives in West. We have not been able to contact anyone. I'm so worried :(


Hoping for the best for them.. Here's some info I scraped off WFAA's website:


WEST, Texas - Below, you will find the latest news and information as it is rolling into our newsroom.


Evacuees were told to go to the community center in Abbott, Texas, about five miles north of WestHillcrest

Hospital patient information hotline 254-202-1100 (KWTX News 10)

FAA has placed a temporary flight restriction over airspace around the TX explosion. Only emergency aircraft allowed to operate.

(ABC News)Most critical patients to Hillcrest Baptist in Waco, followed by Providence Hospital.

The town of west has a population of about 2,800.

 (ABC News)First Baptist Church of Lott has room for anyone needing a place to stay. Call 254-829-2321.

 (KWTX News 10)Eight to ten blocks evacuated in West, Texas.

(Sheriff)West Fertilizer Company was fined $2,300 in 2006 becuse it "failed to implement the risk management plan."

(News Channel 25)Home Depot in Bellmead is open all night for assistance.

 (News Channel 25)RT @jayhicks: Trooper Wilson: Plant is still smoldering. Won't go back in. 50-75 homes have been destroyed.West Mayor says 4 to 5 firemen are unaccounted for. (RT by KWTX News 10)

Blair's Cove Apts in Waco offering housing to any resident affected by #Westexplosion 2425 S. 21 Street (254) 447-0810

The West Police Department has called for a mass evacuation.

First Baptist Church of Lott is taking in refugees at 228 Wildcat Cr. Lott, TX. (254) 829-2321

Turner's in downtown Waco is taking refugees with pets. They are located at 721 Austin Ave. Contact shane Turner at (254) 644-7904.

Church of the Open door will be opened for survivors. They are located off of exit 339 in Bellmead.
 
2013-04-18 01:42:17 AM

thisisyourbrainonFark: RavenOnyx: My husband's family lives in West. We have not been able to contact anyone. I'm so worried :(

Oh god. Hope the best for your family. :(


http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/Explosion-Injuries-Reported-At-We st -Fertilizer-Plant-203505331.html

To check on injured residents admitted to Hillcrest Baptist Medical Center call (254) 202-1100

For family inquiries about patients at Scott & White call (888) 394-4947

Family inquiries about patients at Providence Health Center (254) 761-7200
 
2013-04-18 01:42:43 AM

Uakronkid: hardinparamedic: Firefighters were working a fire on scene at the plant.

It's sad. Sad that they died. Sad that they ran in there not knowing what they were dealing with.

I still can't get over the apparent fact that the firefighters didn't understand the danger of a massive explosion. If they did, they would have held back and focused on setting up a perimeter and evac.


In fact, growing up in a town the same size, I knew some of the volunteer firefighters of the town.  They fought a single fire, a bush on fire in a big puddle.
 
2013-04-18 01:42:48 AM
Quick, everyone go help.
 
2013-04-18 01:45:18 AM

RavenOnyx: My husband's family lives in West. We have not been able to contact anyone. I'm so worried :(


I hope all is well. Try using SMS rather than a phone call - it may be delayed, but it's much more likely to get through.
From one of the DFW stations:


Officials say family members looking for loved ones can call 254-202-1100.


Read more:  http://www.myfoxdfw.com/story/22007886/injuries-building-damage-in-fe r tilizer-plant-explosion#ixzz2Qn5p3Neq
 
2013-04-18 01:48:17 AM
Evacuated the area, FAA closed off the airspace, phone lines are down, telling people to stay away...
skepticalcubefarm.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-04-18 01:48:23 AM

markie_farkie: RavenOnyx: My husband's family lives in West. We have not been able to contact anyone. I'm so worried :(

Hoping for the best for them.. Here's some info I scraped off WFAA's website:...

Church of the Open door will be opened for survivors. They are located off of exit 339 in Bellmead.


A Fark ready headline for the day after thread.
 
2013-04-18 01:50:01 AM
Dammit, it's a sad event , but it is nice to see that they already have offers of too much help. Nice to see the surrounding areas making space for survivors. If you have never been to Texas, they really do think they are a separate country and take up for each other like no place I've ever been before. God Speed !
 
2013-04-18 01:50:18 AM
Holy Crap, according to google this sonic is a little over a mile away from the plant.
At this point I'm just hoping it's just hoping no one else dies and that it's just the usual run of the mill corporate incompitence or greed. My standards for "good news" have been steadily dropping throughout the week. And it's only just thursday.

Hypnozombie
 
2013-04-18 01:51:01 AM
Guys, the EMS Director confirmed the 60-70 figure for FATALITIES an hour ago.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-04-18 01:52:24 AM
cdn.theatlanticwire.com
Damn these cheap internets
 
2013-04-18 01:57:00 AM
I'm starting to get a little nervous about being in one of the few parts of the country that has not had a major catastrophic event in the last 6 months.  It's like being the last cow in line at the slaughterhouse and seeing all the other cows go down in front of you.
 
2013-04-18 01:57:00 AM

Frederick: Theres such a thing as too much help?  Wouldnt it make more sense to arrive and stand by out of the way?  Or is the thought process that people dont know what "out of the way" is?


yes, way too much help. humans are actually pretty slow at most stuff. especially big stuff. you should have seen the cluster fark in manhattan following 9/11. People driving in from out of state like NYC has never handled a demolition project before anyone had figured out who was in charge or what the plan was.  we have dispatchers for  a reason, if you ar enot on shift, watch the damn news from home or a bar Captain Americas !
 
2013-04-18 01:57:20 AM
Sad events, sad days for the US.

I can, in a way, relate to that sense of fear and confusion a few might be getting. Mexico has been steadily having these problems, from shootings that could very well be classified as terror acts, then a sort of natural disasters and accidents. It depresses you, and it makes you want to leave the country to somewhere else more calm. But, it's these days that test the mettle of the human spirit, it's these days that weed out the meek and the strong, the days that turn otherwise ordinary citizens into heroic figures.

The darker the night, the closer it is to dawn.
 
2013-04-18 01:58:35 AM

HotWingAgenda: I'm starting to get a little nervous about being in one of the few parts of the country that has not had a major catastrophic event in the last 6 months.  It's like being the last cow in line at the slaughterhouse and seeing all the other cows go down in front of you.


We haven't seen a good volcanic eruption in awhile.  Live near any of those?

/I do
 
2013-04-18 01:59:22 AM
i45.tinypic.com

Okay, fine.

HERE I COME TO SAVE THE DAAAAAAAY!!!!   ;)
 
2013-04-18 02:00:04 AM
All they really want is a thank you Masked Man.
 
2013-04-18 02:02:35 AM

TiredWings: Dammit, it's a sad event , but it is nice to see that they already have offers of too much help. Nice to see the surrounding areas making space for survivors. If you have never been to Texas, they really do think they are a separate country and take up for each other like no place I've ever been before. God Speed !


Texans are some hospitable folks, but I think it's a trait we all share. When things get bad we tend to step up and do what needs to be done. We are a country that's good at bad times, it's only when we're comfortable and things are back to normal that we start to get after each other again.
 
2013-04-18 02:03:38 AM

HotWingAgenda: I'm starting to get a little nervous about being in one of the few parts of the country that has not had a major catastrophic event in the last 6 months.  It's like being the last cow in line at the slaughterhouse and seeing all the other cows go down in front of you.


I live in Ohio. Nothing happens here. No major weather events, no earthquakes, no industrial disasters, not interesting enough for terrorists. We're boring enough that fate might just forget about us and skip us by.
 
2013-04-18 02:05:09 AM

Uakronkid: HotWingAgenda: I'm starting to get a little nervous about being in one of the few parts of the country that has not had a major catastrophic event in the last 6 months.  It's like being the last cow in line at the slaughterhouse and seeing all the other cows go down in front of you.

I live in Ohio. Nothing happens here. No major weather events, no earthquakes, no industrial disasters, not interesting enough for terrorists. We're boring enough that fate might just forget about us and skip us by.


You have Cleveland. You've suffered enough.
 
2013-04-18 02:05:38 AM

HypnozombieX: [cdn.theatlanticwire.com image 614x615]
Damn these cheap internets


Dang.  At least the czech stop appears unharmed... but I gotta ask - did someone instagram that picture?  Was that really necessary?
 
2013-04-18 02:08:48 AM
As an emergency dispatcher, I tend to be quiet and just lurk. Subby is right. If you don't know what you're doing and you are not in the command chain, then stay the fark out of the way.

We have had some in depth reminders this week about various shiat
 
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