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(Kansas.com)   If you're in a bad mood or show up late for an appointment in Kansas, that obviously means you're on drugs and therefore ineligible to for welfare. "The tests will not look for alcohol use"   (kansas.com) divider line 16
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2013-04-18 12:07:43 AM
2 votes:

Gyrfalcon: Still, I could be wrong, there could be lots of people somehow spending their nonexistent cash benefits on drugs and whores, and doing crimes to pay for their food and rent, but I suspect my experience is more common than the reverse.


Silly lib, you've let your bleeding heart get in the way of perceiving reality. DRUGS ARE BAD, POORS ARE BAD, THEY MUST SUFFER BECAUSE THEY WOULDN'T BE POOR IF JESUS LOVED THEM.
2013-04-17 11:41:11 PM
2 votes:
Kansas welfare recipients:  no illicit drugs for you.  Instead, you'll have to limit yourself to tobacco, alcohol, inhalants, Robitussin, Oxycontin, Vicodin, Valium, Scientology, religious fundamentalism, and popping out babies like a human Pez dispenser.  Tough noogie...
2013-04-17 11:10:49 PM
2 votes:
Kansas, the state so shiatty even the city named after it decided it would rather be in Missouri.
2013-04-18 12:40:38 AM
1 votes:
RANDOMJSA: YOU ARE SUPPORTING THE TESTING FIRMS WITH YOUR TAX DOLLARS, NOT DRUG ADDICTS. THE ACTUAL IMPACTS ARE LAUGHABLY LOW, EXCEPT IN YOUR TV WORLD. ITS LIKE A MAINLINE FROM WELFARE TO GLAXOKLINE, YOU ARSE.

if you guys wouldn't quote him, i wouldnt' have to break out the stupid-ray.
2013-04-18 12:24:00 AM
1 votes:

skullkrusher: I would imagine rolling out technology to limit the sort of expenses allowed is prohibitively expensive.


Oh, no doubt. Why, just imagine how difficult it would be to restrict food purchases, for instance, to comestible items; or making payments straight to the housing authority in the tenant's name and issuing them an ID card for access to their residence. Why, it might cost...nothing, since that's already what is done. And converting general relief payments and SSI/SSDI payments to EBT cards would be just as costly as opening a bank account in the recipient's name, and disallowing cash-back transactions if you're really that concerned.

Clearly, my idealistic pragmatism has overwhelmed me again, and I must go play a violent video game and kill shiat to get it out of my system.
2013-04-18 12:04:49 AM
1 votes:

skullkrusher: spawn73: Why isn't recieving a welfare that provides for basic food and shelter a human right in USA?

Probably because you guys don't consider recieving free treatment and education is a right either.

I think that's partially the point of this backasswards policy. They want to ensure that welfare is not used on drugs and instead is used on food and shelter


If that was the point, they'd do something to ensure that people could get food and shelter but not get money which can be used instead for drugs. And since most welfare benefits nowadays are not cash benefits--something people on Fark, along with the legislators of Kansas and indeed most of the rest of the country, seem wildly unaware of--this bullshiat is just bullshiat, and evil, poor-hating bullshiat at that.

Most "welfare" is not cash money, nor is it a check which can be converted into cash money for the use of the individual. TANF/SNAP payments are (in most states I know of) done on EBT cards, like an ATM card, and no cash ever changes hands, so the old canard of "buying an apple with food stamps and using the change to buy vodka" is very old and very ripe bullshiat indeed. Section 8 housing or other subsidized housing checks go to the landlord, not to the recipient; so nobody is taking their housing benefits and cashing the check to buy drugs or booze (unless they have some kind of very deranged landlord). Now, General Relief payments can be cash-out payments, but GR is temporary and usually reduced by whatever the recipient is getting in other benefits (SNAP, housing, etc.)

In my experience, when I was running around with strange & sketchy people, anyone on benefits who was also using drugs was generally using their benefits for food and shelter....and doing crime to pay for the drugs. So if you take away their benefits, you're not going to stop them from using drugs, you're just going to increase the amount they need to earn doing crimes, to pay for the food and shelter. Still, I could be wrong, there could be lots of people somehow spending their nonexistent cash benefits on drugs and whores, and doing crimes to pay for their food and rent, but I suspect my experience is more common than the reverse.
2013-04-17 11:44:18 PM
1 votes:
well this thread went to derp in a handbasket.
2013-04-17 11:34:12 PM
1 votes:

Jon iz teh kewl: Nadie_AZ: What about anger management issues? Or tobacco use? Or prescription medicine abuse? Or eating foods that are clearly unhealthy for you? Why does the Government care about some things we put in our bodies, but not others?

because by simply putting down "drugs" you automatically get Catholic supporters in droves.  cause they're against anything that's not wine


No beer is okay as long as you don't enjoy it.
2013-04-17 11:29:10 PM
1 votes:

reitage: Somacandra: Unless the exact same rule applies to KS legislators showing up for "work," then its bullshiat. Make the lords play by the same rules the peasants have to....and watch what happens to the "rules."

I had to take a drug test to get my job, why shouldn't someone have to take one to take my money from me?


You caved to an employer playing big brother? Aren't your skills and boot straps large enough to make you attractive to a different employer?

It's traitors like you that are going to make back ground checks for guns inevitable.
2013-04-17 11:14:08 PM
1 votes:
As a Kansan who is neither on drugs nor public assistance, and itching to buy a bigger house, I am sorely tempted to move out of state due to the idiots who run things here.

The rest of America should thank us, though. A lot of the nation's kooks are moving to Wichita, making life a little better for everybody not in the same state as Wichita.
2013-04-17 11:11:59 PM
1 votes:

Bloody William: Kansas, the state so shiatty even the city named after it decided it would rather be in Missouri.


Boring Shiathole, MO doesn't quite roll off the tongue
2013-04-17 11:07:24 PM
1 votes:

Jon iz teh kewl: IgG4: Jon iz teh kewl: i'd like welfare, but i don't know what i'd do with my time if i'm not allowed to use drugs..  kratom??

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aah vodak
love me some of that now


I drink it when I am on a health kick. And the rest of the time, too. Potato juice. Yum.
2013-04-17 10:32:58 PM
1 votes:
I'm white and use my welfare checks to pay for my subscriptions to als.com and extensive drug habit. also on coca-cola and vietnamese happy ending massages.

so ha ha on you, Mr. King. Keep going to work, sucker!
2013-04-17 10:28:25 PM
1 votes:

Lawnchair: As a Kansan


Get out before it's too late.
2013-04-17 08:48:08 PM
1 votes:

Nadie_AZ: Elegy: Drug testing? WHY?

What we should be doing for welfare recipients is POOR TESTING.

Has teh poors? No welfare for you!

This quote is very accurate, I find.

"Mormons Republicans get burned up when they read about someone buying a bottle of mouthwash with food stamps, but they love big water defense projects. They only object to nickel-and-dime welfare. They love it in great big gobs."


I have figured it out

Those on the right (not just the GOP) like big shiny toys.

Does helping the poor give us a badass explosion? Does paying for little Timmy's surgery allow bigass robots to fight with each other? Does giving a dinner to a homeless man give us a space shuttle?

If you could find some badassery it might be easier to introduce your welfare programs.

/This post was satire
2013-04-17 08:37:46 PM
1 votes:
Drug testing? WHY?

What we should be doing for welfare recipients is POOR TESTING.

Has teh poors? No welfare for you!
 
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