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(WBUR Boston)   More on Carlos Arredondo, also known as Cowboy Hat Guy   (cognoscenti.wbur.org) divider line 40
    More: Hero, Carlos Arredondo, Lance Corporal Alex Arredondo, Boylston Street, Jeff Bauman, trauma surgeon, Jamaica Plain, road racing, anti-war movement  
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2013-04-17 10:02:51 PM  
5 votes:

Amos Quito: Shrugging Atlas: This guy's life story over the past 10 years reads like a goddamn Greek tragedy.   I don't know how one man can endure so much shiat.

NEVER ask that question.


I'm only speculating, but this could be his redemption.
He lost a son in the war. No matter what his views on the war, there has to be a certain amount of self blame there (why didn't I talk him out of it?). He then reacted very badly, compounding his family's turmoil. This 'double whammy' may have lead to his other son's suicide. Even if it didn't, any father would always wonder if it did. He becomes an anti-war activist to prevent other fathers from experiencing a similar tragedy. Along the way he's brutalized by thugs. As noble as his activism is, it's an uphill battle at best and, considering his emotional involvement, it must be frustrating as hell. Now another tragedy has given him an opportunity to save another person's life directly. I think this guy needed a win. He was given an 'enemy' that he was able to face and beat the living shiat out of (figuratively). I hope that when the dust clears and the cameras go away he's able to find some peace. He did something that the majority of us would be too shocked, scared or squeamish to do and that makes him a hero.
Now somebody buy him and his wife one of those six month around the world luxury cruises so they can escape the media and heal. If the internet can buy some rich politician a sports car, we can surely give this guy a well deserved vacation.
2013-04-17 09:30:48 PM  
5 votes:
Fun fact:  He was beaten up by a self-styled "patriot" group, Gathering of Eagles, for protesting the war:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/04/16/1202317/-Boston-Hero-Carlos -A rredondo-Beaten-by-Gathering-of-Eagles-Thugs-in-2007


i202.photobucket.com
2013-04-17 09:38:38 PM  
4 votes:

Shrugging Atlas: This guy's life story over the past 10 years reads like a goddamn Greek tragedy.   I don't know how one man can endure so much shiat.


NEVER ask that question.
2013-04-17 09:06:08 PM  
4 votes:
This guy's life story over the past 10 years reads like a goddamn Greek tragedy.  I don't know how one man can endure so much shiat.
2013-04-17 09:58:34 PM  
3 votes:

yeegrek: Fun fact:  He was beaten up by a self-styled "patriot" group, Gathering of Eagles, for protesting the war:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/04/16/1202317/-Boston-Hero-Carlos -A rredondo-Beaten-by-Gathering-of-Eagles-Thugs-in-2007


[i202.photobucket.com image 600x398]


Dickbags. Pure and simple.

Because of people like that, thousands of Americans and tens of thousands of foreign nationals are dead.
2013-04-17 09:23:11 PM  
3 votes:

calbert: Marathon Bombing 'Hero' Questioned By FBI, Police At Boston Home



We know how the American media works. They'll make you a hero and then they'll look at your politics and porn collection:
www.mrmediatraining.com
2013-04-17 09:13:44 PM  
3 votes:

calbert: Marathon Bombing 'Hero' Questioned By FBI, Police At Boston HoMe



Jesus. The headline makes it seem like he's a fng suspect. Of course the questioned him. They questioned everybody.
2013-04-17 09:02:25 PM  
3 votes:
2013-04-18 01:36:48 AM  
2 votes:

redsquid: Amos Quito: Shrugging Atlas: This guy's life story over the past 10 years reads like a goddamn Greek tragedy.   I don't know how one man can endure so much shiat.

NEVER ask that question.

I'm only speculating, but this could be his redemption.
He lost a son in the war. No matter what his views on the war, there has to be a certain amount of self blame there (why didn't I talk him out of it?). He then reacted very badly, compounding his family's turmoil. This 'double whammy' may have lead to his other son's suicide. Even if it didn't, any father would always wonder if it did. He becomes an anti-war activist to prevent other fathers from experiencing a similar tragedy. Along the way he's brutalized by thugs. As noble as his activism is, it's an uphill battle at best and, considering his emotional involvement, it must be frustrating as hell. Now another tragedy has given him an opportunity to save another person's life directly. I think this guy needed a win. He was given an 'enemy' that he was able to face and beat the living shiat out of (figuratively). I hope that when the dust clears and the cameras go away he's able to find some peace. He did something that the majority of us would be too shocked, scared or squeamish to do and that makes him a hero.
Now somebody buy him and his wife one of those six month around the world luxury cruises so they can escape the media and heal. If the internet can buy some rich politician a sports car, we can surely give this guy a well deserved vacation.


Start the page and I'll drop the funds. This guy is a hero and has gone to levels of hell that I cannot imagine. I have no problem giving him and his family a hand.
2013-04-17 10:08:41 PM  
2 votes:

Peter von Nostrand: YodaBlues: http://benthorndike.smugmug.com/Ot her/Marathon-Explosion-Photos/289355 57_ZjvV65#!i=2459431165&k=wCPkhHj

Pictures of the 'Runner' BPD is interested in. Password is Thorndike. *WARNING NSFW*

Is the runner supposed to be the guy in the first few pics in all black with the pants ripped?


It does look like he is running right from the start. Maybe just quick reflexes.
2013-04-17 09:40:54 PM  
2 votes:

YodaBlues: http://benthorndike.smugmug.com/Ot her/Marathon-Explosion-Photos/289355 57_ZjvV65#!i=2459431165&k=wCPkhHj

Pictures of the 'Runner' BPD is interested in. Password is Thorndike. *WARNING NSFW*


No, it isnt.  Thats a guy who got hit so hard by the blast that it blew his farking clothes off, and understandably so, he TOOK OFF RUNNING FOR HIS LIFE.

The guy the police are looking for dropped the bomb and walked away before detonating it. He is NOT in any of those photos.
2013-04-17 09:31:23 PM  
2 votes:

YodaBlues: Alternatively, there is the possibility he had the bomb and didn't know he had the bomb. Maybe the bomber asked him to hold the bag and left the area


um...that would've blown chunks off the poor dude.

TV's Vinnie: That part of him literally waving around a blood-soaked US flag like it was already a religious relic was just disturbing. It's like they're already trying to whip up a cult-worship of this tragedy just like they did with everything from 9-11.


If you watch the youtube video upthread, it sounded like someone asked him what he's holding, he showed them and then they asked if they could get a picture or two with him holding it outstretched.  He isn't making it a relic, hell the people taking the picture probably weren't either, but it does make a fantastic photo.

/because this guy really needs to be in  more memorable photos
2013-04-17 09:29:41 PM  
2 votes:

TV's Vinnie: I dunno. That part of him literally waving around a blood-soaked US flag like it was already a religious relic was just disturbing. It's like they're already trying to whip up a cult-worship of this tragedy just like they did with everything from 9-11.


Yeah. Sure it was a bunch of foreign nationals who were motivated by a hatred of the United States culture and their Cold War political posturing in the middle east who committed the bloodiest attack on American Soil, creating a greater loss of life than even Pearl Harbor, but you keep just farking that chicken.
2013-04-17 09:25:42 PM  
2 votes:
Other articles note that Arredondo was notified of his son's death in Iraq on his birthday. No wonder he went berserk.

This dude has been through hell. He was physically attacked by right-wing protesters at an anti-war march in 2007.
A real hero, indeed.
2013-04-17 09:16:09 PM  
2 votes:
http://benthorndike.smugmug.com/Ot her/Marathon-Explosion-Photos/289355 57_ZjvV65#!i=2459431165&k=wCPkhHj

Pictures of the 'Runner' BPD is interested in. Password is Thorndike. *WARNING NSFW*
2013-04-17 09:12:25 PM  
2 votes:
The world needs more like him.

That's a patriot.
2013-04-17 09:07:36 PM  
2 votes:

mactobain: ckccfa: In the now famous picture, that red thing in Mr Arredondo's hand is the injured man's femoral artery, which Arredondo is keeping pinched shut.  Incredible.

 I'm glad the cropped version of that picture has gotten the circulation. The original's horrid gore obscures the intensity.


So that's Picture #8, huh?
2013-04-17 06:28:05 PM  
2 votes:
In the now famous picture, that red thing in Mr Arredondo's hand is the injured man's femoral artery, which Arredondo is keeping pinched shut.  Incredible.
2013-04-18 12:07:05 AM  
1 votes:
It floored me to learn that the cowboy-hatted man in the now-(in)famous 'pic #8' was the same guy I've seen time and again around my neck-o'-th'-woods with his anti-war truck (and, more recently, his makeshift Newtown memorial). I had also heard about his son Alex, for whom an area post office has been rechristened, from various mentions in the local fishwrapper, but I hadn't quite made the connexion between the two (which, retrospective whoops).

If I see this man in person again, I'll be sure to buy him like eleventy beers (or whatever his preference may be).

/tangential plug advisory: Bucks for Bauman, or One Fund Boston...
2013-04-17 11:48:47 PM  
1 votes:

GungFu: Get your derpy bombing suspects here:

http://www.ibtimes.com/10-boston-marathon-bombing-suspects-4chan-red di t-found-photos-1199213

And The Sun is there with this:

[img.thesun.co.uk image 620x549]

and:

[img.thesun.co.uk image 620x479]


I seriously don't understand the Derp involved with the "roof guy".  Apparently having a really nice apartment with a view of the course makes you a terrorist.
2013-04-17 10:48:54 PM  
1 votes:

kombat_unit: Well, if left wing breitbart says so, it must be true.


Someone posted a picture of him getting a boot party. The Nile is not just a river in egypt, you know.
2013-04-17 10:39:13 PM  
1 votes:
The guy has been through hell no doubt.  My son is an Army cadet in college right now.  Tremendously proud of him, but fearful for what he'll face once he's a real live officer.  I'd take a bullet for him.  I'd lose my farkin' mind if I lost him.  I'd gut-howl to the heavens if I lost him.Times that by 2?  Unimaginable. He stepped up and ran into danger rather than away from it. That is the textbook definition of hero. Also, the MA National Guardsmen who did the same - heroic efforts as well. I've gotten most of the same crisis, first responder and crisis managment training as those guys, but not the real world combat experience. Mine has been classroom.  I've asked myself how I would react.  I'd like to think heroically but I hope never to find out. These guys are outstanding.

I'm going to step into cynicism and  wonder how long before someone wonders if he has a green card or if he staged this for any reason.  Because he's been an anti-war activitist, surely they can find something to smear on him, right?

/He is a handsome guy - hispanic Christian Bale
2013-04-17 10:38:55 PM  
1 votes:

somedude210: YodaBlues: Pictures of the 'Runner' BPD is interested in.

See, here's the thing I don't get about the crucifixion of this guy. He ran from what appears to be a group of very injured people. Has it occurred that he may be rushing to find some EMTs to direct to this group? Chaos on the ground, probably a lot of disorientation abound, guy sees a bunch of people in terrible shape, realizes they need some help and rushes out to find people with medical training?

I understand why the BPD/FBI want to question him, but the stuff I've seen online about the "runner" (and from news organizations *cough cough* CNN *cough cough*) have never even given this idea a thought.


Not everyone can overcome their lizard brain either.  When something terrible happens and you get injured, for a lot of people the Weeners is to flee, get out of dodge, find safety.  It kept our ancestors alive to breed another day.

I highly doubt the cowards that did this stuck around to be in the blast.
2013-04-17 10:01:08 PM  
1 votes:

vernonFL: http://youtu.be/qWJTn_-TJ1Y

Here is a video of him minutes after the bombing, he seems to be shaking uncontrollably.


He probably has a mild case of Essential Tremor. Notice his right had is a lot shakier then his left. That is a common trait in ET. It's more noticeable on the dominant side. Stress and cold exacerbate the shaking quite a bit in ET. My hand would be shaking like that all the time if it weren't for propranolol.
2013-04-17 09:59:05 PM  
1 votes:

Alonjar: No, it isnt.  Thats a guy who got hit so hard by the blast that it blew his farking clothes off, and understandably so, he TOOK OFF RUNNING FOR HIS LIFE


I UNDERSTAND THAT. But it was the buzz in the earlier threads ( before the link was changed to cover the ARRESTED/NOT ARRESTED debacle), hence the reason to post. Either way, they are interesting pics of ground zero and will certainly help the FBI get the farkstick who did this. I don't think the dude in the middle of the explosion was part of it either.
2013-04-17 09:43:45 PM  
1 votes:

TV's Vinnie: [encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com image 275x183]
I dunno. That part of him literally waving around a blood-soaked US flag like it was already a religious relic was just disturbing. It's like they're already trying to whip up a cult-worship of this tragedy just like they did with everything from 9-11.

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 628x411]


I saw the video. The guy with the camera asked him to hold it up like that.
2013-04-17 09:41:36 PM  
1 votes:

YodaBlues: somedude210: YodaBlues: Just speculating. Only if he was holding it, but he may have set it down. His clothes are shredded, but he looks otherwise intact and there are others who were close to the blast who appear relatively unscathed. The pics capture bomb site #1 from a pretty good angle, you can see where it blew.

True, and he may have been close enough that his pants got shredded, but if he was  that close to it, there would be chunks missing, if not entire limbs

speaking of which, where was #8 guy in relation to the bomb when it went off?

No idea, but he is in some of the later shots in the gallery, hence the NSFW warning. Given his injuries, I think he had to of been right on top of the thing.


It's really incredible, and there is incredible kudos to Mr. Arredondo, that unnamed Asian lady and the others who helped Jeff Baumann Jr. that the dead did not number four. His legs were gone. Just gone.
2013-04-17 09:39:59 PM  
1 votes:

somedude210: YodaBlues: Just speculating. Only if he was holding it, but he may have set it down. His clothes are shredded, but he looks otherwise intact and there are others who were close to the blast who appear relatively unscathed. The pics capture bomb site #1 from a pretty good angle, you can see where it blew.

True, and he may have been close enough that his pants got shredded, but if he was  that close to it, there would be chunks missing, if not entire limbs

speaking of which, where was #8 guy in relation to the bomb when it went off?


No idea, but he is in some of the later shots in the gallery, hence the NSFW warning. Given his injuries, I think he had to of been right on top of the thing.
2013-04-17 09:31:26 PM  
1 votes:

TV's Vinnie: I dunno. That part of him literally waving around a blood-soaked US flag like it was already a religious relic was just disturbing. It's like they're already trying to whip up a cult-worship of this tragedy just like they did with everything from 9-11.


You who else liked to have ceremonies with the blood standard?
2013-04-17 09:26:11 PM  
1 votes:

YodaBlues: http://benthorndike.smugmug.com/Ot her/Marathon-Explosion-Photos/289355 57_ZjvV65#!i=2459431165&k=wCPkhHj

Pictures of the 'Runner' BPD is interested in. Password is Thorndike. *WARNING NSFW*


Is the runner supposed to be the guy in the first few pics in all black with the pants ripped?
2013-04-17 09:25:36 PM  
1 votes:

JonBuck: ckccfa: In the now famous picture, that red thing in Mr Arredondo's hand is the injured man's femoral artery, which Arredondo is keeping pinched shut.  Incredible.

Ugh. I'm sure the rest of his leg is nothing but pulped muscle and exposed bone, from what little I can see. No thanks on the rest of the pic...


Far worse. A few bone shards and shredded skin flapping in the breeze.
2013-04-17 09:20:47 PM  
1 votes:

JonBuck: ckccfa: In the now famous picture, that red thing in Mr Arredondo's hand is the injured man's femoral artery, which Arredondo is keeping pinched shut.  Incredible.

Ugh. I'm sure the rest of his leg is nothing but pulped muscle and exposed bone, from what little I can see. No thanks on the rest of the pic...


Bone, yes. Muscle, no. The muscles are entirely gone.
2013-04-17 09:18:31 PM  
1 votes:

calbert: Marathon Bombing 'Hero' Questioned By FBI, Police At Boston Home


I figured the FBI would cover that angle.

Mods deemed me suggesting it as inappropriate though.
2013-04-17 09:17:00 PM  
1 votes:

calbert: Marathon Bombing 'Hero' Questioned By FBI, Police At Boston Home


so? Dude risked his ass after losing two sons to save another guy he didn't know. He's a hero until proven otherwise
2013-04-17 09:15:09 PM  
1 votes:

calbert: Marathon Bombing 'Hero' Questioned By FBI, Police At Boston Home


Good grief the comments section of that article is a train wreck..
2013-04-17 09:14:25 PM  
1 votes:

vernonFL: http://youtu.be/qWJTn_-TJ1Y

Here is a video of him minutes after the bombing, he seems to be shaking uncontrollably.


Probably the adrenaline high wearing off and his body coping with everything that just happened physically and psychologically
2013-04-17 09:10:03 PM  
1 votes:

vernonFL: http://youtu.be/qWJTn_-TJ1Y

Here is a video of him minutes after the bombing, he seems to be shaking uncontrollably.


Adrenaline is a hell of a drug hormone.
2013-04-17 09:09:35 PM  
1 votes:
Good for him. New York's only cowboy hat wearing guy just stands around in his underwear all day.
2013-04-17 08:52:21 PM  
1 votes:

ckccfa: In the now famous picture, that red thing in Mr Arredondo's hand is the injured man's femoral artery, which Arredondo is keeping pinched shut.  Incredible.


 I'm glad the cropped version of that picture has gotten the circulation. The original's horrid gore obscures the intensity.
2013-04-17 08:06:36 PM  
1 votes:
http://youtu.be/qWJTn_-TJ1Y

Here is a video of him minutes after the bombing, he seems to be shaking uncontrollably.
 
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