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2013-04-17 12:02:02 PM
Maybe this is a campaign to actually clean up gamers. Next DLC will come after purchasing Axe deodorant and body wash.

/Love the actual page where they have the game next to a PS3 and 360.
//Fark EA
 
2013-04-17 12:30:11 PM
Penny Arcade is blocked at work, or I'd post the Gillete Fusion Gamer strip they did a few years ago
 
2013-04-17 12:30:20 PM

scottydoesntknow: Axe deodorant and body wash


I thought we wanted to clean up gamers.....
 
2013-04-17 12:32:52 PM
A month in and I'm already bored of the game.  It's very shallow compared to past SimCities.
 
2013-04-17 12:34:12 PM

Klivian: Penny Arcade is blocked at work, or I'd post the Gillete Fusion Gamer strip they did a few years ago


www.gosugamers.net
 
2013-04-17 12:34:15 PM
Dang, man! Was this game designed to be anything other than an advertising platform?
 
2013-04-17 12:34:54 PM

Burr: scottydoesntknow: Axe deodorant and body wash

I thought we wanted to clean up gamers.....


Axe appeals to the teenage dude-bro group, which I would assume is the only group that actually likes this game, as it's as superficial as they are.
 
2013-04-17 12:40:09 PM

tricycleracer: A month in and I'm already bored of the game.  It's very shallow compared to past SimCities.


Probably because there really isn't that much to do with the game itself. I guess you could play it again when more DLC arrives.

Turns out that shrinking the game to suburb dimensions and eliminating the ability to run it as a sandbox (the city looks nice, I wonder how it would look after a few disaster hit at the same time?) kind of limits the replay value.
 
2013-04-17 12:40:16 PM

tricycleracer: A month in and I'm already bored of the game.  It's very shallow compared to past SimCities.


They already have your money.  They don't care.
 
2013-04-17 12:42:12 PM

StrangeQ: tricycleracer: A month in and I'm already bored of the game.  It's very shallow compared to past SimCities.

They already have your money.  They don't care.


When aggregate player hours decline their advertising platform will become less appealing.  Technically, my eyeballs are still worth something to them.
 
2013-04-17 12:42:20 PM

scottydoesntknow: Burr: scottydoesntknow: Axe deodorant and body wash

I thought we wanted to clean up gamers.....

Axe appeals to the teenage dude-bro group, which I would assume is the only group that actually likes this game, as it's as superficial as they are.


You know, when the SimCity commercials came out, and they had Adam Devine playing more or less his Workaholics character, I found it appropriate.
 
2013-04-17 12:42:25 PM
It doesn't feel like EA and Maxis sat down and tried to create the very best version of SimCity possible, it feels like they designed the game that would be the easiest to control, monetize, and sell to advertisers.

I'll take "No Duh" for a thousand, Alex.

I've said it before and I'll say it again because it just doesn't stop being true:

If you buy a product from EA, Ubisoft or Activistion-Blizzard at this point, you deserve anything that happens to you as a result.
 
2013-04-17 12:46:14 PM

Burr: scottydoesntknow: Burr: scottydoesntknow: Axe deodorant and body wash

I thought we wanted to clean up gamers.....

Axe appeals to the teenage dude-bro group, which I would assume is the only group that actually likes this game, as it's as superficial as they are.

You know, when the SimCity commercials came out, and they had Adam Devine playing more or less his Workaholics character, I found it appropriate.


Heh, my girlfriend (who I'm getting into gaming) saw that commercial and said "Wait, is that the game that had the horrible launch where they took out everything fun and  no one could play it? I'm starting to wonder if Adam was actually in charge of it, it would explain a lot."
 
2013-04-17 12:46:38 PM
And I would be A-Ok with SimCity being an advertising platform.  If it weren't a full priced PC game.   If it were free I'd accept it as a cost of doing business, but it isn't.

Besides which this crap is region locked, we have Crest and Oral-B here in the UK.  We can also buy SimCity, so where are the deals and such for UK people to get their hands on these items?

And finally.  No, I don't want my video game littered with advertising aimed at either men or the stereotyped basement dweller who doesn't shower/shave unless you throw a bucket over them.  Not ever damn person buying these games and enjoying them is male FFS.

Although I will laugh the first time some gamer bro-dude gets a Triumph bra ad shoved unceremoniously in his game.  Guess you'll be that 1 in 10 eh?  Don't lie to the computer now.
 
2013-04-17 12:51:36 PM
With each passing day, I become more at-peace with my decision to not buy SimCity.
 
2013-04-17 12:51:53 PM
"The Attractions Set adds happiness to low wealth Sims," the official post stated. "They will also bring in all three wealth classes of tourists into your city."

My tourist town of Pelorum could really use that.

I buy that kind of toothpaste anyway.
 
2013-04-17 01:02:50 PM

Vaneshi: Although I will laugh the first time some gamer bro-dude gets a Triumph bra


Triumph makes bras AND motorcycles!
 
2013-04-17 01:07:08 PM
SimSh*tty..
 
2013-04-17 01:11:27 PM

Mentalpatient87: SimSh*tty..


Hmmm I see a South Park episode about this. Maybe the CityWok guy gets addicted to gaming and builds an entire South Park "Sh*tty" in it, but the game's self-imposed limitations cause him to start tearing down the actual South Park to make it more like his.
 
2013-04-17 01:17:02 PM

skozlaw: It doesn't feel like EA and Maxis sat down and tried to create the very best version of SimCity possible, it feels like they designed the game that would be the easiest to control, monetize, and sell to advertisers.

I'll take "No Duh" for a thousand, Alex.

I've said it before and I'll say it again because it just doesn't stop being true:

If you buy a product from EA, Ubisoft or Activistion-Blizzard at this point, you deserve anything that happens to you as a result.


The strange assumption they're making is that Maxis is still the Maxis we wish they were and not the Maxis EA has molded since purchasing them, and that EA would design a product any other way
 
2013-04-17 01:19:41 PM

scottydoesntknow: Mentalpatient87: SimSh*tty..

Hmmm I see a South Park episode about this. Maybe the CityWok guy gets addicted to gaming and builds an entire South Park "Sh*tty" in it, but the game's self-imposed limitations cause him to start tearing down the actual South Park to make it more like his.


I would watch that.
 
2013-04-17 01:27:40 PM

wingnut396: Vaneshi: Although I will laugh the first time some gamer bro-dude gets a Triumph bra

Triumph makes bras AND motorcycles!


Different Triumph's.  Like Apple Computers Inc. and Apple Records.

But considering how much mental work can end up in a bra I wouldn't of been surprised if they were the same.
 
2013-04-17 01:29:18 PM
Wow gamers sure do like to biatch don't they?

Day one DLC - fark that! If it's released on day one it should have been included in the farking game to begin with!

Regular DLC - fark that! That game came out 6 months ago, I'm done playing that stupid game and now they've gone and farked up my 100% achievement/trophy completion percentage.

New items pack DLC - fark that! why should I have to pay for an entire DLC when I'm only interested in one or two of the items?

Micro transactions - fark that! They shouldn't nickle and dime me to death for each individual item like that.

Free sponsored DLC - fark that! If they want to put ads in games then they should be free to play! Why should I have to buy an everyday item that I'd be using anyway just to get something extra?

You guys are all a bunch of farking cry babies.
 
2013-04-17 01:29:55 PM

wingnut396: Vaneshi: Although I will laugh the first time some gamer bro-dude gets a Triumph bra

Triumph makes bras AND motorcycles!


s3.amazonaws.com
 
2013-04-17 01:35:34 PM

ReapTheChaos: Wow gamers sure do like to biatch don't they?


You know you've made it in life on this planet when you can complain about recreational activities not being perfect.
 
2013-04-17 01:39:06 PM

ReapTheChaos: Wow gamers sure do like to biatch don't they?

Day one DLC - fark that! If it's released on day one it should have been included in the farking game to begin with!

Regular DLC - fark that! That game came out 6 months ago, I'm done playing that stupid game and now they've gone and farked up my 100% achievement/trophy completion percentage.

New items pack DLC - fark that! why should I have to pay for an entire DLC when I'm only interested in one or two of the items?

Micro transactions - fark that! They shouldn't nickle and dime me to death for each individual item like that.

Free sponsored DLC - fark that! If they want to put ads in games then they should be free to play! Why should I have to buy an everyday item that I'd be using anyway just to get something extra?

You guys are all a bunch of farking cry babies.


Not all of those things are really complaint worthy.

Day 1 DLC is always complaint worthy - especially for full priced games

Free Sponsored DLC is fine, unless it breaks the game. In Sim City the sponsored DLC is a Leaf Charging station which has no down-side. It is a completely unbalanced part of the game. That is the complaint there.

Regular DLC that comes quite a while after the main release date is actually a good thing. Bethesda did a great job of this. There only problem was not getting the new content onto every platform at the same time.
 
2013-04-17 01:39:57 PM

tricycleracer: StrangeQ: tricycleracer: A month in and I'm already bored of the game.  It's very shallow compared to past SimCities.

They already have your money.  They don't care.

When aggregate player hours decline their advertising platform will become less appealing.  Technically, my eyeballs are still worth something to them.


Meanwhile the probably years of playtime The Sims 3 will take from me before TS4 comes around is regularly exposing me to cute Iams pet products and a Prius that used to be much faster than the other cheap care (I think) and all that content is free on top of an already complex game.

After how well they've done with TS3, I'm pretty crushed they screwed up SimCity.
 
2013-04-17 01:46:24 PM

madgonad: Bethesda did a great job of this. There only problem was not getting the new content onto every platform at the same time.


Dawnguard = Meh. Not much new, mostly same locations, a couple good reasons to pick it up, but overall not really worth it.

Hearthfire = Meh. I enjoyed being able to put up a house and decorate it, but that was it.

Dragonborn = Badass. Had a great time during that whole DLC and wanted more.

A couple days ago they announced they were done with DLC for Skyrim. I understand why, but it still sucks cause I wanted a DLC dealing with the Thalmor war that's inevitably going to happen or to get some good details on the Dwemer.

Guess I'll have to wait 5 years to get something dealing with that.
 
2013-04-17 01:47:48 PM

ReapTheChaos: Wow gamers sure do like to biatch don't they?

Day one DLC - fark that! If it's released on day one it should have been included in the farking game to begin with!

Regular DLC - fark that! That game came out 6 months ago, I'm done playing that stupid game and now they've gone and farked up my 100% achievement/trophy completion percentage.

New items pack DLC - fark that! why should I have to pay for an entire DLC when I'm only interested in one or two of the items?

Micro transactions - fark that! They shouldn't nickle and dime me to death for each individual item like that.

Free sponsored DLC - fark that! If they want to put ads in games then they should be free to play! Why should I have to buy an everyday item that I'd be using anyway just to get something extra?

You guys are all a bunch of farking cry babies.


Sooooo this ^
 
2013-04-17 01:54:41 PM

madgonad: Day 1 DLC is always complaint worthy - especially for full priced games


Day 1 DLC, and first month DLC, sell the best though.  Probably because the game is still being played by a larger audience of people and fresh in their minds, but as long as consumers support that kind of DLC buy paying for it, it will stick around.
 
2013-04-17 01:55:17 PM
You've been warned, Farkers: you can whine and snark and politic-tab all you want, but if you complain about EA then you've just gone too far.

I mean, after all, Monsanto is as we speak turning peasant children into squashes, or something, and therefore you have no right to complain about anti-consumer practices.  No, not even if they affect you directly in ways the child-veggies do not.  Listen to me, I'm evolved and have perspective.
 
2013-04-17 01:56:24 PM

scottydoesntknow: Mentalpatient87: SimSh*tty..

Hmmm I see a South Park episode about this. Maybe the CityWok guy gets addicted to gaming and builds an entire South Park "Sh*tty" in it, but the game's self-imposed limitations cause him to start tearing down the actual South Park to make it more like his.


He takes over South Park's local dispatch and makes all the city vehicles drive in a straight line behind each other.

This idea/episode sounds like fun.
 
2013-04-17 01:58:05 PM

ReapTheChaos: Wow gamers sure do like to biatch don't they?

Day one DLC - fark that! If it's released on day one it should have been included in the farking game to begin with!


Was developed instead of the game itself.  Opps.  DLC has to go through the, alleged  6 month code signing phase as well. 

Regular DLC - fark that! That game came out 6 months ago, I'm done playing that stupid game and now they've gone and farked up my 100% achievement/trophy completion percentage.

If its for a fair price that is comesurate with what it adds AND the age of this hypothetical product, that is fine. 

New items pack DLC - fark that! why should I have to pay for an entire DLC when I'm only interested in one or two of the items?

As above.

Micro transactions - fark that! They shouldn't nickle and dime me to death for each individual item like that.

On a full price game, this is a problem.

Free sponsored DLC - fark that! If they want to put ads in games then they should be free to play! Why should I have to buy an everyday item that I'd be using anyway just to get something extra?

Does the inclusion of such deals mean the game was provided at a less than full RRP?  Are the items in question balanced?  If the answer to those two is a resounding NO then that's a problem. 

You guys are all a bunch of farking cry babies.

You're an industry shill, but you don't see me insulting you about it.   Yet.
 
2013-04-17 02:06:06 PM

TeDDD: You've been warned, Farkers: you can whine and snark and politic-tab all you want, but if you complain about EA then you've just gone too far.

I mean, after all, Monsanto is as we speak turning peasant children into squashes, or something, and therefore you have no right to complain about anti-consumer practices.  No, not even if they affect you directly in ways the child-veggies do not.  Listen to me, I'm evolved and have perspective.


Considering people who love playing games just seem to complain about them and the companies who make non-stop, it's making me think gaming is one of the worst possible ways to spend your time in this life.
 
2013-04-17 02:08:27 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: scottydoesntknow: Mentalpatient87: SimSh*tty..

Hmmm I see a South Park episode about this. Maybe the CityWok guy gets addicted to gaming and builds an entire South Park "Sh*tty" in it, but the game's self-imposed limitations cause him to start tearing down the actual South Park to make it more like his.

He takes over South Park's local dispatch and makes all the city vehicles drive in a straight line behind each other.

This idea/episode sounds like fun.


Everybody leaves their job and goes and lives in the nearest house...
 
2013-04-17 02:10:02 PM
FunkOut:
Considering people who love playing games just seem to complain about them and the companies who make non-stop, it's making me think gaming is one of the worst possible ways to spend your time in this life.

People who consider video games to be the only form of gaming... yeah you're probably right.

Any 'gamer' who doesn't know how to roll for initiative in at least one table top game gets to sit at the children's table though.  In the sound proof box.
 
2013-04-17 02:11:11 PM

scottydoesntknow: madgonad: Bethesda did a great job of this. There only problem was not getting the new content onto every platform at the same time.

Dawnguard = Meh. Not much new, mostly same locations, a couple good reasons to pick it up, but overall not really worth it.

Hearthfire = Meh. I enjoyed being able to put up a house and decorate it, but that was it.

Dragonborn = Badass. Had a great time during that whole DLC and wanted more.

A couple days ago they announced they were done with DLC for Skyrim. I understand why, but it still sucks cause I wanted a DLC dealing with the Thalmor war that's inevitably going to happen or to get some good details on the Dwemer.

Guess I'll have to wait 5 years to get something dealing with that.


I got all three too. They all added quite a bit of new content, but came from different directions. Hearthfire appealed to the Sim/Doll House fans while the others were more like massive quests. None were even close to zero day and all were well done. Bethesda continues to earn my patronage. I was only mad at them for the lame ending to Fallout 3.... Hey Fawkes, could you go into the radiation filled room and do something for us? Thanks!
 
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2013-04-17 02:15:14 PM

madgonad: Day 1 DLC is always complaint worthy - especially for full priced games


No, it's not.

On the disk? Complaint worthy.
Obviously cut out of the game? Complaint worthy
If they just used the time delay between gold and release for further tweaking, it's fine.

Of course given modern business practices, those first two are far more common.
 
2013-04-17 02:15:35 PM

madgonad: scottydoesntknow: madgonad: Bethesda did a great job of this. There only problem was not getting the new content onto every platform at the same time.

Dawnguard = Meh. Not much new, mostly same locations, a couple good reasons to pick it up, but overall not really worth it.

Hearthfire = Meh. I enjoyed being able to put up a house and decorate it, but that was it.

Dragonborn = Badass. Had a great time during that whole DLC and wanted more.

A couple days ago they announced they were done with DLC for Skyrim. I understand why, but it still sucks cause I wanted a DLC dealing with the Thalmor war that's inevitably going to happen or to get some good details on the Dwemer.

Guess I'll have to wait 5 years to get something dealing with that.

I got all three too. They all added quite a bit of new content, but came from different directions. Hearthfire appealed to the Sim/Doll House fans while the others were more like massive quests. None were even close to zero day and all were well done. Bethesda continues to earn my patronage. I was only mad at them for the lame ending to Fallout 3.... Hey Fawkes, could you go into the radiation filled room and do something for us? Thanks!


Broken Steel

And forgive us for complaining about the things that we bought. If your brand new car didn't come with wiper blades and you had to pay extra, you'd be upset too. Why are gamers less able to criticize the companies they keep in business?
 
2013-04-17 02:19:14 PM

madgonad: scottydoesntknow: madgonad: Bethesda did a great job of this. There only problem was not getting the new content onto every platform at the same time.

Dawnguard = Meh. Not much new, mostly same locations, a couple good reasons to pick it up, but overall not really worth it.

Hearthfire = Meh. I enjoyed being able to put up a house and decorate it, but that was it.

Dragonborn = Badass. Had a great time during that whole DLC and wanted more.

A couple days ago they announced they were done with DLC for Skyrim. I understand why, but it still sucks cause I wanted a DLC dealing with the Thalmor war that's inevitably going to happen or to get some good details on the Dwemer.

Guess I'll have to wait 5 years to get something dealing with that.

I got all three too. They all added quite a bit of new content, but came from different directions. Hearthfire appealed to the Sim/Doll House fans while the others were more like massive quests. None were even close to zero day and all were well done. Bethesda continues to earn my patronage. I was only mad at them for the lame ending to Fallout 3.... Hey Fawkes, could you go into the radiation filled room and do something for us? Thanks!


I think Dawnguard's biggest letdown was that you didn't venture past Skyrim (well except for the lead Vamp's home) and just added a few new markers onto it. That's what made Dragonborn stand out so much, you not only got a whole new area and map, but you also got to venture into Hermaeus Mora's domain and see how farked up he really is.

I did enjoy Hearthfire, and the price was just right (only $5). Ended up building homes in all the areas, but only use the one that's near the lake (where that vampire is always trying out dark magic in the backyard).
 
2013-04-17 02:22:07 PM

Vaneshi: Any 'gamer' who doesn't know how to roll for initiative in at least one table top game gets to sit at the children's table though. In the sound proof box.


Just please don't make me calculate THAC0's...
 
2013-04-17 02:27:29 PM

FunkOut: TeDDD: You've been warned, Farkers: you can whine and snark and politic-tab all you want, but if you complain about EA then you've just gone too far.

I mean, after all, Monsanto is as we speak turning peasant children into squashes, or something, and therefore you have no right to complain about anti-consumer practices.  No, not even if they affect you directly in ways the child-veggies do not.  Listen to me, I'm evolved and have perspective.

Considering people who love playing games just seem to complain about them and the companies who make non-stop, it's making me think gaming is one of the worst possible ways to spend your time in this life.


God forbid people have negative reactions to a substantial change in their hobby that they have been passionately involved with for the past 25 years... especially when some company buys a beloved franchise and that has an almost 20 year legacy and makes it a shadow of it's former self in the name of greed....

I don't complain about it much, but the original SimCity (1989) was one of the first PC games I played (I bought it along with X-Wing).  I have every sequel up to 4, which came out in 2003.  That is 14 years of a game. 14 years of investment into a franchise.  Of course I am going to feel a little miffed when a large corporation, known for taking good companies with excellent franchises (Westwood, BullFrog were my faves) and then using that devoted fan-base to sell a piece of crap that has considerably less functionality then the originals, all in the name of profit.

What is even worse is that I am scared that this kind of business practice is becoming the norm, all in the guise of stopping piracy (which is directly related to profits, of course).
 
2013-04-17 02:37:42 PM

Vaneshi: FunkOut:
Considering people who love playing games just seem to complain about them and the companies who make non-stop, it's making me think gaming is one of the worst possible ways to spend your time in this life.

People who consider video games to be the only form of gaming... yeah you're probably right.

Any 'gamer' who doesn't know how to roll for initiative in at least one table top game gets to sit at the children's table though.  In the sound proof box.


I've stuck with two text MUDs all this time. Although these days it's just to have a 300 year old character walk around town half naked claming senility for the lulz.
 
2013-04-17 02:41:14 PM

Burr: FunkOut: TeDDD: You've been warned, Farkers: you can whine and snark and politic-tab all you want, but if you complain about EA then you've just gone too far.

I mean, after all, Monsanto is as we speak turning peasant children into squashes, or something, and therefore you have no right to complain about anti-consumer practices.  No, not even if they affect you directly in ways the child-veggies do not.  Listen to me, I'm evolved and have perspective.

Considering people who love playing games just seem to complain about them and the companies who make non-stop, it's making me think gaming is one of the worst possible ways to spend your time in this life.

God forbid people have negative reactions to a substantial change in their hobby that they have been passionately involved with for the past 25 years... especially when some company buys a beloved franchise and that has an almost 20 year legacy and makes it a shadow of it's former self in the name of greed....


I just mean if it's gotten that bad, maybe it's not worth it anymore. Maybe people should be learning how to build houses out of concrete and booze bottles or taking up knitting or something. There isn't a mismanaged idiot company taking your cash and you have a finished item.
 
2013-04-17 02:41:31 PM

scottydoesntknow: Guess I'll have to wait 5 years to get something dealing with that.


Hopefully that means we will have Fallout 4 to keep us busy for a couple of those years....
 
2013-04-17 02:44:16 PM

Burr: scottydoesntknow: Guess I'll have to wait 5 years to get something dealing with that.

Hopefully that means we will have Fallout 4 to keep us busy for a couple of those years....


There's always Elder Scrolls Online.
 
2013-04-17 02:45:25 PM

Burr: scottydoesntknow: Guess I'll have to wait 5 years to get something dealing with that.

Hopefully that means we will have Fallout 4 to keep us busy for a couple of those years....


Bethesda released a teaser with a song from the Fallout 'verse and an old record playing, but explicitely said it's not related to Fallout. I was dissapointed about that. Still holding out hope they'll announce something this year.
 
2013-04-17 02:45:50 PM

Burr: The Stealth Hippopotamus: scottydoesntknow: Mentalpatient87: SimSh*tty..

Hmmm I see a South Park episode about this. Maybe the CityWok guy gets addicted to gaming and builds an entire South Park "Sh*tty" in it, but the game's self-imposed limitations cause him to start tearing down the actual South Park to make it more like his.

He takes over South Park's local dispatch and makes all the city vehicles drive in a straight line behind each other.

This idea/episode sounds like fun.

Everybody leaves their job and goes and lives in the nearest house...


NO! The fake asian guy has to do it. (tho I think he's dead)

Gets a job at the local recycling plant, waits till the place is full and blocks the exit with his body.
 
2013-04-17 02:49:48 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Burr: The Stealth Hippopotamus: scottydoesntknow: Mentalpatient87: SimSh*tty..

Hmmm I see a South Park episode about this. Maybe the CityWok guy gets addicted to gaming and builds an entire South Park "Sh*tty" in it, but the game's self-imposed limitations cause him to start tearing down the actual South Park to make it more like his.

He takes over South Park's local dispatch and makes all the city vehicles drive in a straight line behind each other.

This idea/episode sounds like fun.

Everybody leaves their job and goes and lives in the nearest house...

NO! The fake asian guy has to do it. (tho I think he's dead)

Gets a job at the local recycling plant, waits till the place is full and blocks the exit with his body.


I could imagine Sh*ttyWok guy using those stanchions to map out the entire town and force people to go where the rope says so. Maybe electrify them (or go with the Simpsons "nobody crosses the velvet rope!") to keep the south park people from crossing over. Randy is forced to work at the Coffee Shop Tweak's dad owns, Tweak's dad has to go the geologist lab where Randy works, etc.
 
2013-04-17 02:50:00 PM

RedPhoenix122: Burr: scottydoesntknow: Guess I'll have to wait 5 years to get something dealing with that.

Hopefully that means we will have Fallout 4 to keep us busy for a couple of those years....

There's always Elder Scrolls Online.


If you're expecting Skyrim in multiplayer format, I've got some bad news for you...
 
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