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2013-04-17 09:27:44 AM
How can a law enforcement officer not care about the law? The mind, it boggles.
 
2013-04-17 09:37:20 AM
Can't see YouTube at work, but I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it's a video of a power tripping cop going on a power trip and disobeying the laws he has sworn to uphold, as well as harassing the citizens he has sworn to serve and protect.
 
2013-04-17 09:41:15 AM

Farce-Side: Can't see YouTube at work, but I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it's a video of a power tripping cop going on a power trip and disobeying the laws he has sworn to uphold, as well as harassing the citizens he has sworn to serve and protect.


Pretty much. Something about 'rudely carrying a firearm,' the officer said. Heh.
 
2013-04-17 09:47:01 AM

Farce-Side: Can't see YouTube at work, but I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it's a video of a power tripping cop going on a power trip and disobeying the laws he has sworn to uphold, as well as harassing the citizens he has sworn to serve and protect.


In Texas?  Nooooo.
 
2013-04-17 09:48:47 AM
Even better, the guy is a decorated veteran. Temple PD is crawdadding too, reducing the charges to interfering with a peace officer while performing a duty - a class B misdemeanor.

Farking pricks. Our small town guys are smarter than these farkwads.
 
2013-04-17 09:52:33 AM

Dancin_In_Anson: Even better, the guy is a decorated veteran. Temple PD is crawdadding too, reducing the charges to interfering with a peace officer while performing a duty - a class B misdemeanor.

Farking pricks. Our small town guys are smarter than these farkwads.


I love how these reduced charges amount to "making a cop angry."
 
2013-04-17 09:54:25 AM
Unless the laws have drastically changed, you can legally carry a shotgun or rifle nearly everywhere in Texas, including into a bar (schools & public buildings being the exception).


Because they don't like competion, being a asshole to the police will get you detained/searched everytime.
 
2013-04-17 09:54:39 AM

Cythraul: I love how these reduced charges amount to "making a cop angry."


I hope this gets legs...at least in the state if not just the Temple/Killeen region. Ft Hood will not react well to this.
 
2013-04-17 09:57:54 AM
Let's see.  It's Texas, and not a house for miles in the POV of camera.  The police came because someone made a call about a person with a gun.  I'm guessing this is a neighborhood with CEOs and senators.
 
2013-04-17 09:58:44 AM
Police are just the enforcers of the government.  We see everyday what the government actually thinks of the citizens, but these stupid liberals still think it is a good idea to give the government more power and grow it larger.  Liberals are the Uncle Tom's of the citizenry.
 
2013-04-17 10:01:09 AM

Dancin_In_Anson: Farking pricks. Our small town guys are smarter than these farkwads.


I know there's a lot of cop hate on Fark, and I understand it, but the majority of cops in the country are honest, good cops who genuinely care about their jobs and the people they serve.  It's just that those guys are overshadowed by asshats like these who think a badge and a gun give them the authority to do whatever the want to whomever they want.  It doesn't help when their superiors, fearing a public backlash if they admit their officers did something wrong, support the shiatty decisions made by said asshats.  I think if there were a system for the citizenry to vet peace officers and determine their worthiness to serve, we'd all be better off.  That's just crazy though, letting the people decide who has the power in their community.
 
2013-04-17 10:03:57 AM

Cythraul: Farce-Side: Can't see YouTube at work, but I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it's a video of a power tripping cop going on a power trip and disobeying the laws he has sworn to uphold, as well as harassing the citizens he has sworn to serve and protect.

Pretty much. Something about 'rudely carrying a firearm,' the officer said. Heh.


I only watched the first several minutes, but basically he was walking on a hiking trail with not just a hunting rifle, but what looks like one of those jacked-up, black semi-automatic rifles slung around his chest.  I think another hiker called the police so they were checking it out.

I'm going to play devil's advocate here and say that despite the fact this guy was on a hiking trail with his son, if I was out jogging and saw him it would indeed freak me out a bit.  Not sure whether I'd call the police  (esp. if I was in Texas) but I would have thought about it.  They guy refused to acknowledge that the kind of gun he was carrying has a few people on edge since Sandy Hook, et al., so when the police tried to question him he didn't much like it.
 
2013-04-17 10:04:01 AM

Dancin_In_Anson: Even better, the guy is a decorated veteran. Temple PD is crawdadding too, reducing the charges to interfering with a peace officer while performing a duty - a class B misdemeanor.



What strikes me is this is freaking Temple.  I can see some officer in Houston or Dallas stopping a guy out of legitimate concern (motivated by what would be a deluge of calls) but in Temple?  This smacks of wounded egos and the officer wanting to put a show-off in his place.

And I do believe the guy was showing off.  I've encountered plenty of coyotes out that way and if they see you, they take off before you can get your gun up.  If he feels the need to hike with an AR15 strapped to his chest, then so be it.  But I think he was just doing it for attention.  And he sucks in that regard because this was supposed to be for his son's hiking merit badge and considering all the nice places to hike out and around Temple, he appears to have made this about himself and walk down a well traveled road where he can show off.
 
2013-04-17 10:04:11 AM
1. That guy is active duty military? Holy hell standards have slipped.

2. The officer needs some serious training on confronting armed suspects.

3. Never argue with the law in the field. Argue with the law in court houses

4. No, Fatty McTubby didn't do anything illegal before the stop according to the laws of the State of Texas, but always expect a visit from the law if carrying a long gun in public... especially if you are carrying it chest slung instead of shoulder slung. I suspect if he was carrying it shoulder slung he never would have gotten stopped.

5. Yes, a law enforcement officer does have the right to disarm you during the course of an investigation. It's their discretion. If you are going to act like a douche to the police, it's pretty much a given.

6. What a douche.

7. The sergeant should have unloaded and cleared the rifle when it was handed to him. Same with the pistol.

8. Watch the office sweep the suspect with the .45 when he takes it from his belt. YIKES!

9. Fatty McTubby carries his .45 with the hammer down. Idiot.

10. Those new over vests designed to look like a uniform shirt never look right.

11. When confronted by the law, SHUT THE FRAK UP! The officer doesn't need to explain to anyone now why he felt threatened. They just need to show this tape and any reasonable person would agree the officer needed to take his gun from him.

..quit watching at about 6 minutes in.
 
2013-04-17 10:05:44 AM

Farce-Side: I know there's a lot of cop hate on Fark, and I understand it, but the majority of cops in the country are honest, good cops who genuinely care about their jobs and the people they serve.


One of the upsides to living in a jerkwater town is that I know ALL the cops...local, county and state. With few exceptions these guys are pretty straight up people and very knowledgeable of the law. I don't think any of them would  have acted the way this cop did. I know of more than one that would have stopped to check the rifle out and discuss the latest mods for it!

This guy needs a reprimand and a shiatload more classroom time.
 
2013-04-17 10:07:19 AM
Looks like he was openly displaying the gun hoping to get a reaction. I openly carry to my hunting spot all the time but I am not an asshat about it. If and when fish and game ask to see my gun and they often do I say sure.  Then we jaw about the make and model.  He looks it over and says nice gun and that's it.   Anytime an officer is called by a concerned citizen he has the right and duty to secure the situation before trying to find out what is going on.  Comply with the officer give him the gun then explain your just trying to make some political statement about gun rights and if your not a jerk he will probably send you on your way.
 
2013-04-17 10:07:48 AM
WTF is this guy doing walking down a road with his rifle in patrol carry position?  how can you expect NOT to be stopped when behaving like this?
 
2013-04-17 10:12:19 AM
The guy made things a lot worse for himself by arguing with the cops. If he had complied with their instructions with a few "Yes sir"s, he would have been on his way. If you piss off the cops they have the ability to ruin your day.
 
2013-04-17 10:19:12 AM
I had a strange urge to kick that guy in the teeth.
 
2013-04-17 10:19:44 AM

targus: Looks like he was openly displaying the gun hoping to get a reaction


Don't think so. He had it slung.

doublesecretprobation: WTF is this guy doing walking down a road with his rifle in patrol carry position?  how can you expect NOT to be stopped when behaving like this?


Unless he's got it up in a combat ready position, he's not "behaving" in any way.
 
2013-04-17 10:32:53 AM

Cythraul: How can a law enforcement officer not care about the law? The mind, it boggles.


They are ABOVE the law.

Armed thugs will always roam our streets.  That's why we hire these particular armed thugs, to keep other armed thugs from getting any ideas.  We just hope that THESE armed thugs will work for our best interests.  It seems to work out pretty well as long as you're white and well educated and relatively wealthy.

For everyone else, not so much.
 
2013-04-17 10:44:40 AM
desertmouse:
I only watched the first several minutes, but basically he was walking on a hiking trail with not just a hunting rifle, but what looks like one of those jacked-up, black semi-automatic rifles slung around his chest.  I think another hiker called the police so they were checking it out

That's what I was thinking. This isn't some old Winchester rifle. The guy is brandishing a very threatening looking assault rifle. The belligerent attitude doesn't help things either. He reminds me of one of those "water the tree of liberty" types. Imagine if your kids were at that park while this nut was wandering around. As a nation we need to take a serious look at our asinine gun laws.
 
2013-04-17 10:55:29 AM

Satan's Girlfriend: The guy is brandishing a very threatening looking assault rifle.


*sigh*
 
2013-04-17 10:56:44 AM

revrendjim: The guy made things a lot worse for himself by arguing with the cops. If he had complied with their instructions with a few "Yes sir"s, he would have been on his way. If you piss off the cops they have the ability to ruin your day.


^ This.  Raising your voice to a policeman usually does not turn out well.
 
2013-04-17 11:02:14 AM

Farce-Side: I know there's a lot of cop hate on Fark, and I understand it, but the majority of cops in the country are honest, good cops who genuinely care about their jobs and the people they serve.


Might have been the majority a couple decades ago, but i swear they're selectively hiring aggressive psychopaths now.

A family member of mine was a pretty high ranking police officer before he retired. Also one of the 'good guys' i might add. And even he's noticed a dramatic change. Because i knew him growing up i always had a relatively positive view of police, but over the years my opinion has changed also.

I don't think hate is justified, but people should definitely be wary of police in this day and age. They're no longer our protectors.
 
2013-04-17 11:09:33 AM
The guy was walking along "minding his own business" with a rifle openly displayed, slung in front of his body, whatever. The cops SHOULD stop him and ask some questions.

If he hadn't responded like a dick, and said "yes sir, and "no sir", this probably would not have gone this way. But the rifle-carrying dude "KNOWS HIS RIGHTS".  Know your rights, sure, but don't be a jerk-off about it.
 
2013-04-17 11:11:23 AM
Also - the cops are to be complimented for not being total douches for NOT trying to snag the camera and cuffing the kit too.

At looks like the cops are finally getting the clue on that one...
 
2013-04-17 11:16:21 AM
In a game of losers, there are no winners.
 
2013-04-17 11:16:33 AM

Dancin_In_Anson: Satan's Girlfriend: The guy is brandishing a very threatening looking assault rifle.

*sigh*


Oh shut up.  Guys like him are the reason gun manufacturers design long rifles to look like that for civilian sales.
 
2013-04-17 11:17:43 AM
Chris is a farking idiot. Learn to film dumbass!
 
2013-04-17 11:18:47 AM

Dancin_In_Anson: Satan's Girlfriend: The guy is brandishing a very threatening looking assault rifle.

*sigh*


Don't you brandish that sigh at me, mister.
 
2013-04-17 11:18:57 AM
The 'victim' is being a jerk.
The cops are idiots. I hope they lose their asses in court.
 
2013-04-17 11:18:58 AM
Cop does Job. Person acts like asshole to try and make point/get attention. People blame cop.


It is part of a cops job to verify that your legal activity is legal. It happens every second of the day without incident in the vast majority of cases.


Stop being falsely indignant assholes who think your rights trump the basic safety of others.
 
2013-04-17 11:21:30 AM

Satan's Girlfriend: desertmouse:
I only watched the first several minutes, but basically he was walking on a hiking trail with not just a hunting rifle, but what looks like one of those jacked-up, black semi-automatic rifles slung around his chest.  I think another hiker called the police so they were checking it out

That's what I was thinking. This isn't some old Winchester rifle. The guy is brandishing a very threatening looking assault rifle. The belligerent attitude doesn't help things either. He reminds me of one of those "water the tree of liberty" types. Imagine if your kids were at that park while this nut was wandering around. As a nation we need to take a serious look at our asinine gun laws.


I am all for people having guns. But yeah, openly walking around with a military style weapon and acting like a jerk is a sure fire way to have the police called.
 
2013-04-17 11:21:35 AM

Dancin_In_Anson: Satan's Girlfriend: The guy is brandishing a very threatening looking assault rifle.

*sigh*


this may come as a surprise to you but many people (the majority of the population) are not familiar with firearms and may perceive someone carrying what appears to be a military type assault rifle at their chest, on the side of the road as "threatening".

that guy got the trouble he was looking for.
 
2013-04-17 11:24:10 AM

Flappyhead: Oh shut up. Guys like him are the reason gun manufacturers design long rifles to look like that for civilian sales.


What's so threatening about it?

doublesecretprobation: this may come as a surprise to you but many people (the majority of the population) are not familiar with firearms and may perceive someone carrying what appears to be a military type assault rifle at their chest, on the side of the road as "threatening".


What makes it any more threatening than any other firearm?
 
2013-04-17 11:29:31 AM

Dancin_In_Anson: Flappyhead: Oh shut up. Guys like him are the reason gun manufacturers design long rifles to look like that for civilian sales.

What's so threatening about it?



See doublesecretprobation.
 
2013-04-17 11:38:26 AM

Flappyhead: See doublesecretprobation.


Please note I asked him the same thing.
 
2013-04-17 11:39:28 AM
Holy crap.... that backpack.... that was one of the backpacks used in the Bostom Marathon bombing!

i.imgur.com

Clearly some guy with experience in Iraq and Afghanistan... clearly knows something about making IEDs!

I bet his pantry is missing a pressure cooker or two!
 
2013-04-17 11:39:42 AM
I think the real takeaway from this video is that his son sucks at holding a camera.
 
2013-04-17 11:45:37 AM

Dancin_In_Anson: What makes it any more threatening than any other firearm?


oh fark off and die.
 
2013-04-17 11:48:47 AM

Dancin_In_Anson: Even better, the guy is a decorated veteran. Temple PD is crawdadding too, reducing the charges to interfering with a peace officer while performing a duty - a class B misdemeanor.

Farking pricks. Our small town guys are smarter than these farkwads.


A lot of cops don't like citizens being armed. That's what he was arrested for.
 
2013-04-17 11:51:28 AM

Farce-Side: I know there's a lot of cop hate on Fark, and I understand it, but the majority of cops in the country are honest, good cops who genuinely care about their jobs and the people they serve.


If that were true then the number of cops who were getting arrested or fired on the word of their co-workers woudl be much higher then the number we see getting fired for doing shiat after a video surfaces.


Satan's Girlfriend: That's what I was thinking. This isn't some old Winchester rifle. The guy is brandishing a very threatening looking assault rifle.


Care to elaborate on what makes it an assault rifle?
 
2013-04-17 11:53:01 AM

doublesecretprobation: Dancin_In_Anson: Satan's Girlfriend: The guy is brandishing a very threatening looking assault rifle.

*sigh*

this may come as a surprise to you but many people (the majority of the population) are not familiar with firearms and may perceive someone carrying what appears to be a military type assault rifle at their chest, on the side of the road as "threatening".

that guy got the trouble he was looking for.


They got a call and had every right to check it out. Sure he was being petulant, but they had no right to arrest him. That is just straight up abuse of power.
 
2013-04-17 11:53:52 AM

doublesecretprobation: oh fark off and die.




i1123.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-17 11:56:29 AM

gilgigamesh: A lot of cops don't like citizens being armed. That's what he was arrested for.


One of my best friends is a State Trooper. I got my CHL license at his repeated insistence. The Temple cop totally screwed the pooch here.
 
2013-04-17 12:02:21 PM
Fascist cops. Period. He was doing nothing wrong.


This is one step from "You're carrying a backpack, might have a bomb in it. We're gonna detain and search you until we are sure you are safe."  or "You look mexican, we're gonna detain and search you until we are sure you are safe."
 
2013-04-17 12:05:55 PM
Well, speaking as a Marine (20 years since active) it's OK to carry an AR-15 around in public in Texas... but probably not OK to carry it slung, military patrol style, like you are ready for an attack from a Taliban ambush. I'm not sure why he would need it handy if he's got a .45 on his hip. That's really the issue here... he's not in Israel, where he'd be required to carry it everywhere, so it basically amounts to him carrying it to "look cool" which is the wrong attitude to have with a weapon.

Also... he describes himself as a "soldier" - thank God he's not a Marine... I have yet to see a fat active duty Marine, even lately, where I've seen a LOT of fat soldiers; these are, of course, not just Army, but also National Guardsmen, so I can't help but think he's actually a guardsman. I guess recruiting standards and weight standards in general have fallen by the wayside to keep volunteer numbers up. If he's Army, I'd like to hope his Drill Sergeant  would have thrashed that sort of crap out of him.

The police were dicks. It would have been proper to confront him more peacefully, questioning his need to carry the rifle. We've seen the proper drill from an incident that was posted here on Fark with a Jacksonville, NC officer confronting a Marine who was carrying a .45 as he walked down a main thoroughfare.
 
2013-04-17 12:13:54 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: gilgigamesh: A lot of cops don't like citizens being armed. That's what he was arrested for.

One of my best friends is a State Trooper. I got my CHL license at his repeated insistence. The Temple cop totally screwed the pooch here.


That's not the same thing. The guy knows you.

I don't open carry. If I did, I would probably get stopped by every cop that saw me. I'd be lucky to make it from point A to point B without winding up in parish prison on some bullshiat charge that amounted to "being lawfully armed in the presence of a police officer" just like this guy.
 
2013-04-17 12:20:54 PM

doublesecretprobation: this may come as a surprise to you but many people (the majority of the population) are not familiar with firearms and may perceive someone carrying what appears to be a military type assault rifle at their chest, on the side of the road as "threatening".

that guy got the trouble he was looking for.


Well, if there were one group of people that should be trained to identify different kinds of weapons it's the police.


LesserEvil: Well, speaking as a Marine (20 years since active) it's OK to carry an AR-15 around in public in Texas... but probably not OK to carry it slung, military patrol style, like you are ready for an attack from a Taliban ambush. I'm not sure why he would need it handy if he's got a .45 on his hip. That's really the issue here... he's not in Israel, where he'd be required to carry it everywhere, so it basically amounts to him carrying it to "look cool" which is the wrong attitude to have with a weapon.

Also... he describes himself as a "soldier" - thank God he's not a Marine... I have yet to see a fat active duty Marine, even lately, where I've seen a LOT of fat soldiers; these are, of course, not just Army, but also National Guardsmen, so I can't help but think he's actually a guardsman. I guess recruiting standards and weight standards in general have fallen by the wayside to keep volunteer numbers up. If he's Army, I'd like to hope his Drill Sergeant  would have thrashed that sort of crap out of him.

The police were dicks. It would have been proper to confront him more peacefully, questioning his need to carry the rifle. We've seen the proper drill from an incident that was posted here on Fark with a Jacksonville, NC officer confronting a Marine who was carrying a .45 as he walked down a main thoroughfare.


Well there are two types of counties in Texas. The kind that have boar problems and the type that will have boar problems. Currently it is an open season on boar with no limit. Also boars are very aggressive and can take out small vehicles.
.45s will only stop the very small ones
 
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