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(American Thinker)   Why can't these Palestinians just accept that Israel stole their land? Nobody complained when Pakistan and India deported people based on religion, or when Yugoslavia went through ethnic cleaning - what makes Palestinians so special?   (americanthinker.com ) divider line
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2013-04-17 09:09:31 AM  
So subby's cool with giving his land back to the tribe to which it belonged? I say about the Israelis the same as I say about Americans: they stole it, fair and square.
 
2013-04-17 09:09:39 AM  
Ask the far left and far right who are living on Native American soil.
 
2013-04-17 09:11:21 AM  
When the Palestinians start building casinos all will be even.
 
2013-04-17 09:13:27 AM  
The Israelis are effete assholes, every last one of them.
 
2013-04-17 09:13:53 AM  
I agree that there is no "right of return" for Palestinians to what now is Israel, BUT refugees should be able to settle in what is now the West Bank and Gaza, and Israel should help pay for them to settle there.
 
2013-04-17 09:16:29 AM  
It is true that about 700,000 Arabs left Israel in 1948. .... Meanwhile, some 900,000 Jews, many of whose families had lived in Arab lands for centuries, were expelled from their homes, stripped of their possessions, and forced into exile.

Let's call it even and move on.

/Israel proper, not the West Bank territories -- that is another can of worms
 
2013-04-17 09:17:48 AM  
Nobody complained when Americans stole the lands from the natives or when America stole Texas from Mexico.
 
2013-04-17 09:18:12 AM  

vernonFL: I agree that there is no "right of return" for Palestinians to what now is Israel, BUT refugees should be able to settle in what is now the West Bank and Gaza, and Israel should help pay for them to settle there.


Since Palestinians are born in Israel should all have full rights as Jewish Israelis and be allowed to live any where they want and be able to vote in Israeli elections.
 
2013-04-17 09:18:29 AM  
www.mindhuestudio.com
 
2013-04-17 09:20:02 AM  

Princess Ryans Knickers: Nobody complained when Americans stole the lands from the natives or when America stole Texas from Mexico.


Well, we killed most of the complainers.
 
2013-04-17 09:20:58 AM  

theorellior: [www.mindhuestudio.com image 640x480]


Don't worry, no one clicks American Skull Pudding.
 
2013-04-17 09:23:03 AM  

Princess Ryans Knickers: Nobody complained... when America stole Texas from Mexico.


I'm complaining now. That was one of our worst mistakes ever.
 
2013-04-17 09:23:04 AM  
As I recall, people complained a lot over those. Bill Clinton even "complained" hard enough to explode things in former-Yugoslavia.
 
2013-04-17 09:23:18 AM  
Indigenous people getting farked out of their land?  The hell you say.

Get over it.  Learn to feed your kids.  Hell, learn not to shiat where you eat and drink, let's start there; we'll have you into the 20th century in one or two generations.
 
2013-04-17 09:23:55 AM  

Jake Havechek: Princess Ryans Knickers: Nobody complained when Americans stole the lands from the natives or when America stole Texas from Mexico.

Well, we killed most of the complainers.


*Gets vote for smart*
 
2013-04-17 09:26:02 AM  
They had their chance for their own country at the same time as Israel and they chose another route. You'd think they'd have figured out they made a poor choice after a generation or two.
 
2013-04-17 09:26:14 AM  

The Why Not Guy: Princess Ryans Knickers: Nobody complained... when America stole Texas from Mexico.

I'm complaining now. That was one of our worst mistakes ever.


So go back to Europe then. Then you can complain all you want about Israel from there.
 
2013-04-17 09:26:25 AM  

Dr Dreidel: As I recall, people complained a lot over those. Bill Clinton even "complained" hard enough to explode things in former-Yugoslavia.


Bill Clinton exploded something all right...
 
2013-04-17 09:32:47 AM  
Am I becoming more wise in my older age, or are the right wingers just flopping around in their own filth?
 
2013-04-17 09:33:38 AM  
Don't forget that a huge portion of the Palestinian exodus was in two waves.

First, the 1948 one, when hundreds of thousands of Palestinians left the area because the surrounding countries were getting ready to come in and exterminate the Israelis and the Palestinians didn't want to get murdered too.

Then, the 1968 one, which was basically the same thing on a smaller scale.

/the first Palestinian I ever met was in the US on a Saudi passport, and when asked if he wanted the "right to return," always said "hell, no." He wanted to live here.
 
2013-04-17 09:35:08 AM  

PC LOAD LETTER: So subby's cool with giving his land back to the tribe to which it belonged? I say about the Israelis the same as I say about Americans: they stole it, fair and square.


So the Israelis should set up a Bureau of Palestinian Affairs and send reparation money to the West Bank every year?
 
2013-04-17 09:35:27 AM  

Princess Ryans Knickers: Nobody complained when Americans stole the lands from the natives or when America stole Texas from Mexico.


To be fair, we are paying the price for that second one.
 
2013-04-17 09:35:31 AM  

pkellmey: They had their chance for their own country at the same time as Israel and they chose another route. You'd think they'd have figured out they made a poor choice after a generation or two.


The partition plan was an extremely shiatty deal for the Palestinians (Jews were 1/3 of the Mandate's population getting 3/5 of the land; the Palestinians owned most of that land and were going to receive no compensation for the loss of it) and they were right not to accept it. It's the kind of thing that only looks good in hindsight.

The point of the article isn't that far off-base though. The Palestinians need to stop biatching about Right of Return and give up any hope of getting anything other than modest financial compensation, otherwise the Israelis are just going to keep settling into more of their land while they hold out.
 
2013-04-17 09:35:33 AM  

PC LOAD LETTER: So subby's cool with giving his land back to the tribe to which it belonged? I say about the Israelis the same as I say about Americans: they stole it, fair and square.


Someone made a mistake 400 years ago; therefore, anyone who makes the same mistake today is automatically absolved of all guilt.

Does this mean we can go back to owning slaves, beating our wives, and hating the Irish?
 
2013-04-17 09:37:23 AM  
If Civilization has taught me one thing, territory belongs to the people best able to control it.
 
2013-04-17 09:37:35 AM  
Wow. I didn't realize that bad things are ok as long as they have historical precedent.

I think I owe neo-Nazis an apology.
 
2013-04-17 09:38:20 AM  

cirby: /the first Palestinian I ever met was in the US on a Saudi passport, and when asked if he wanted the "right to return," always said "hell, no." He wanted to live here.


I know a Palestinian Christian family who left in the 1980s - because of the Antifadeh violence and basically ethnic cleansing - of Christians by Arabs. Also the family was wealthy and could get out.
 
2013-04-17 09:38:45 AM  

Wendy's Chili: Wow. I didn't realize that bad things are ok as long as they have historical precedent.

I think I owe neo-Nazis an apology.


No, precedent only works if they were successful.
 
2013-04-17 09:38:56 AM  

Princess Ryans Knickers: Dr Dreidel: As I recall, people complained a lot over those. Bill Clinton even "complained" hard enough to explode things in former-Yugoslavia.

Bill Clinton exploded something all right...


HAAAAAAAAAAA!
www.celebuzz.com

// oh you
 
2013-04-17 09:39:30 AM  

Arkanaut: PC LOAD LETTER: So subby's cool with giving his land back to the tribe to which it belonged? I say about the Israelis the same as I say about Americans: they stole it, fair and square.

So the Israelis should set up a Bureau of Palestinian Affairs and send reparation money to the West Bank every year?


No, you idiot: they should let the Palestinians build casinos and keep the money tax-free.
 
2013-04-17 09:40:11 AM  

TV's Vinnie: Am I becoming more wise in my older age, or are the right wingers just flopping around in their own filth?


To each his own. They don't criticize your sexual orientation, do they? Oh wait...
 
2013-04-17 09:40:22 AM  

Tomahawk513: If Civilization has taught me one thing, territory belongs to the people best able to control it.


This is why you can't cross 24th Street wearing those colors.
 
2013-04-17 09:41:03 AM  

Princess Ryans Knickers: Bill Clinton exploded something all right...


A Romance Explosion on Blue Dress!
Should be in the National Gallery...
 
2013-04-17 09:42:04 AM  

Karac: PC LOAD LETTER: So subby's cool with giving his land back to the tribe to which it belonged? I say about the Israelis the same as I say about Americans: they stole it, fair and square.

Someone made a mistake 400 years ago; therefore, anyone who makes the same mistake today is automatically absolved of all guilt.

Does this mean we can go back to owning slaves, beating our wives, and hating the Irish?


It's interesting that you draw that conclusion from what I said. Did I say anything about absolving guilt? Nope. I wonder what other projections and strawmen people will come up with?
 
2013-04-17 09:43:13 AM  
White far left and far right America: How dare those Jews start governing a land they have been living on for thousands of years! What right do they have to it?

/These posts will come from ancient white settlements like NYC, Chicago, and L.A.
 
2013-04-17 09:45:18 AM  

The Why Not Guy: Princess Ryans Knickers: Nobody complained... when America stole Texas from Mexico.

I'm complaining now. That was one of our worst mistakes ever.


In our defense we tried to steal Canada but they got their big brother involved so what else were we to do? After that it was just a matter of time before we found someone to pick on and Mexico was there, walking to school with all that sweet, sweet lunch money (and anti-slavery laws annoying their illegal immigrant Anglos). They were asking for it IMO.
 
2013-04-17 09:47:18 AM  

PC LOAD LETTER: So subby's cool with giving his land back to the tribe to which it belonged? I say about the Israelis the same as I say about Americans: they stole it, fair and square.


Woooosh
 
2013-04-17 09:50:23 AM  
Ulgh. I wish the U.S. would just withdraw all financial and political support from Israel and just let those two destroy each other.
 
2013-04-17 09:54:20 AM  

Karac: PC LOAD LETTER: So subby's cool with giving his land back to the tribe to which it belonged? I say about the Israelis the same as I say about Americans: they stole it, fair and square.

Someone made a mistake 400 years ago; therefore, anyone who makes the same mistake today is automatically absolved of all guilt.

Does this mean we can go back to owning slaves, beating our wives, and hating the Irish?


We can always hate the Irish. They are shifty, untrustworthy people. Yes I do get all my stereotypes from 1850s posters.
 
2013-04-17 09:56:25 AM  

Moosecakes: PC LOAD LETTER: So subby's cool with giving his land back to the tribe to which it belonged? I say about the Israelis the same as I say about Americans: they stole it, fair and square.

Woooosh


Speak for yourself. Go back to Europe where they killed millions of Jews the last century, took away there homes, and wonder why they left, and complain from there. I know you won't won't. Instead you will stay here, and live on land stolen from the Natives, and whine instead.
 
2013-04-17 09:58:09 AM  

muck4doo: Moosecakes: PC LOAD LETTER: So subby's cool with giving his land back to the tribe to which it belonged? I say about the Israelis the same as I say about Americans: they stole it, fair and square.

Woooosh

Speak for yourself. Go back to Europe where they killed millions of Jews the last century, took away there homes, and wonder why they left, and complain from there. I know you won't won't. Instead you will stay here, and live on land stolen from the Natives, and whine instead.


Why can't the Jews just get over the Holocaust amirite?
 
2013-04-17 09:58:27 AM  
In 2000 years, no one will have any right to complain about Israel because they'll have been there long enough that the Palestinians will have absolutely no right to pretend they belong there.
 
2013-04-17 10:04:40 AM  
Stole?  I mean, I accept that they participated in a racist movement known as Zionism which encouraged Jews to move their and displace Palestinians and rent to only Jews and so on and so forth, but at the end of the day, I was under the impression that the land was sold to Jews.  If they paid for it, technically, they didn't steal it.  Maybe they took advantage of impoverished, disorganized people, and got it for a unfair price, but the Palestinians still stole it, and now that the Jews control most of that land, they control the country.  It's not fair to come back and demand your property back, AFTER you spent the money.
 
2013-04-17 10:05:50 AM  

spiderpaz: but the Palestinians still stole sold it


FTFM: damn, I should really have coffee before writing anything
 
2013-04-17 10:10:05 AM  
Never trust anyone who wants to live in a place where there isn't enough clean water for basic sanitation.
 
2013-04-17 10:10:10 AM  

PC LOAD LETTER: So subby's cool with giving his land back to the tribe to which it belonged? I say about the Israelis the same as I say about Americans: they stole it, fair and square.


Well, in one case you'd be asking American farmers to get off land they've been farming for 300 years in some cases, and in the other (if we're just talking the settlements in Palestinian land taken after 67', it's only been 40-50 years, so the people that stole it are the ones it's been taken from still).  But I kind of see your point, a little.
 
2013-04-17 10:13:53 AM  

spiderpaz: PC LOAD LETTER: So subby's cool with giving his land back to the tribe to which it belonged? I say about the Israelis the same as I say about Americans: they stole it, fair and square.

Well, in one case you'd be asking American farmers to get off land they've been farming for 300 years in some cases, and in the other (if we're just talking the settlements in Palestinian land taken after 67', it's only been 40-50 years, so the people that stole it are the ones it's been taken from still).  But I kind of see your point, a little.


It's not the same. Jews have been on that land for thousands of years. Rome didn't cleanse them all. It's funny you can make an argument for white farmers who took away the land 300 years ago. Most of the raping took place in the last 150 years.
 
2013-04-17 10:16:05 AM  
Shouldn't the Palestinians be terror-bombing the UN? They're the ones who "gave" Israel that land.
 
2013-04-17 10:17:10 AM  

muck4doo: It's not the same. Jews have been on that land for thousands of years. Rome didn't cleanse them all. It's funny you can make an argument for white farmers who took away the land 300 years ago. Most of the raping took place in the last 150 years.


(Looks up at reference to land taken for NEW settlements from Palestine AFTER 1967)

Yeah, you're intentionally not getting it.
 
2013-04-17 10:19:12 AM  

PC LOAD LETTER: So subby's cool with giving his land back to the tribe to which it belonged? I say about the Israelis the same as I say about Americans: they stole it, fair and square.


Approves of your semantics.
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