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(NPR)   While everyone has been arguing over whether the Boston Marathon bombings were done by home-grown terrorists or Islamists, Congress quietly signs a law to repeal the ban on Insider Trading for Congress   (npr.org) divider line 75
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2013-04-17 09:25:48 AM  

FLMountainMan: secularsage: They gutted the STOCK act. They didn't repeal it.

Still, this is one of those sneaky, ugly things that makes younger people lose faith in government to the point that they no longer care. The game is so incredibly rigged that it's easy to be apathetic.

I worked as a lobbyist for two-and-a-half years.  Eyes opened.  I don't think anyone but a stark raving mad idiot can do that and remain blindly partisan.  The two parties are both a) incredibly corrupt and b) have some really great people associated with them.


So if both sides are bad who should I vote for.

I know - maybe the party whose policies are measurably worse for society, the economy and the country.
 
2013-04-17 09:27:20 AM  

Carn: FLMountainMan: way south: pxlboy: And they'll get away with it, too. When are we going to get the pitchforks and torches and put these assholes out to pasture?

You sound angry.
...angry at the government.
...and demanding people take action.

How long has it been since you last plotted against America, citizen?

/which is why nothing can ever happen.
/the left believes in bloodless revolution against tyrants, the right believes in conformity to authority.
/the side with the guns will never revolt and the side with the ideals refuses to buy guns.

Che Guevera and Timothy McVeigh would like a word with you.  There have been plenty of bloody leftist revolutions and plenty of right-wingers striking out at authority.

Which state did Che Guevara live in again?


The last time I went down this rabbit hole, my comments were deleted.  I'll just say that your comment makes a good point and I'll stop the threadjack.
 
2013-04-17 09:28:03 AM  

FLMountainMan: reillan: So they didn't actually repeal the ban... but you have to read to the last paragraph to find that out...

No, but they made it more difficult for it to be caught and publicized.  Disclosures are more important than you'd think.  Every few years an Alaskan Republican Senator or Representative seems to get caught up in some kickback scheme and it's usually because of information found in disclosures.


Oh, I agree, but I also agree in the need for privacy in terms of personal information.  We should absolutely publish their names and their stock purchases... and avoid publishing anything else.
 
2013-04-17 09:32:53 AM  
Just what will it take to convince YOU to take action?
 
2013-04-17 09:36:58 AM  

ltdanman44: pxlboy: And they'll get away with it, too. When are we going to get the pitchforks and torches and put these assholes out to pasture?

There will be no revolution until the food runs out, sadly.  When the peasants can't eat tacos, pizza, or triple bacon cheeseburgers, the people will descend  on Washington like a fleet of interstate buses.


Doubtful. The population is too fat to walk there and the busses can be stopped.
 
2013-04-17 09:39:05 AM  
When I hear the argument that certain jobs deserve to be ridiculously overpaid to ensure that talented people are attracted to them, I think about how the guy that fixes your brakes is making fifteen dollars an hour.
 
2013-04-17 09:47:04 AM  

FLMountainMan: Carn: FLMountainMan: way south: pxlboy: And they'll get away with it, too. When are we going to get the pitchforks and torches and put these assholes out to pasture?

You sound angry.
...angry at the government.
...and demanding people take action.

How long has it been since you last plotted against America, citizen?

/which is why nothing can ever happen.
/the left believes in bloodless revolution against tyrants, the right believes in conformity to authority.
/the side with the guns will never revolt and the side with the ideals refuses to buy guns.

Che Guevera and Timothy McVeigh would like a word with you.  There have been plenty of bloody leftist revolutions and plenty of right-wingers striking out at authority.

Which state did Che Guevara live in again?

The last time I went down this rabbit hole, my comments were deleted.  I'll just say that your comment makes a good point and I'll stop the threadjack.


There are probably relevant examples of radical violent leftists in the US, although maybe not many that are too recent.  On the whole, I agree with way south though.  The left in this country is neither extreme nor violent.  Our left is most of the rest of the world's middle or even center right.  What this might have to do with the bombing I don't know, unless they catch the asshole(s) responsible.
 
2013-04-17 09:51:50 AM  

way south: pxlboy: And they'll get away with it, too. When are we going to get the pitchforks and torches and put these assholes out to pasture?

You sound angry.
...angry at the government.
...and demanding people take action.

How long has it been since you last plotted against America, citizen?

/which is why nothing can ever happen.
/the left believes in bloodless revolution against tyrants, the right believes in conformity to authority.
/the side with the guns will never revolt and the side with the ideals refuses to buy guns.


That's a large brush you're painting with. Careful not to get any one yourself.

And I am well aware that nothing will really happen until things get *really* bad.
 
2013-04-17 09:52:52 AM  

6655321: The opposite of Progress is Congress.


Holy crap I've never notice this but it's damned profound (and I'm confounded)
 
2013-04-17 09:56:01 AM  

van1ty: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Foster_Winans

Insider trading laws are farked up to begin with.  This guy had ZERO insider knowledge and only picked stocks for a newspaper column.  He spent two years in jail for telling a friend in advance what stocks he was picking, as invariably after the articles were published the stock prices would go up.


If only he had been a member of congress at the time.
 
2013-04-17 09:56:51 AM  

Gunny Walker: Donnchadha: Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: Like anyone at the SEC bothers to do anything but watch porn.

I'm sorry. I'm new here. Is this where I make a football joke?


No, Donnchadha's point is that it doesn't matter what the laws are. No one's going to act on them. SEC porn (Yes, it's SFW.)

/But feel free to make a football joke, anyway.


Really? That's my point. They're certainly watching more porn than investigating $cam Newton!
 
2013-04-17 10:01:00 AM  
wait wait, you're telling me the sociopaths that make up our government want to make it easier for them to steal even more money and have their votes purchased?  i'm shock i tell you.  and wait, obama did nothing to stop it?  so shocked, it must be a day the sun rose and set.
 
2013-04-17 10:28:25 AM  
too bad they did not set the bombs where it could do some good
 
2013-04-17 10:34:42 AM  
99% of politicians are corporate whores and could care less about helping out average Americans.  But keep arguing with your neighbors about social issues while your financial interests get demolished in Washington.
 
2013-04-17 10:58:17 AM  
Congress -- Our own home-grown terrorists.
 
2013-04-17 11:04:56 AM  

van1ty: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Foster_Winans

Insider trading laws are farked up to begin with.  This guy had ZERO insider knowledge and only picked stocks for a newspaper column.  He spent two years in jail for telling a friend in advance what stocks he was picking, as invariably after the articles were published the stock prices would go up.


He had insider knowledge--what he was going to recommend.
 
2013-04-17 11:06:08 AM  

Carn: FLMountainMan: Carn: FLMountainMan: way south: pxlboy: And they'll get away with it, too. When are we going to get the pitchforks and torches and put these assholes out to pasture?

You sound angry.
...angry at the government.
...and demanding people take action.

How long has it been since you last plotted against America, citizen?

/which is why nothing can ever happen.
/the left believes in bloodless revolution against tyrants, the right believes in conformity to authority.
/the side with the guns will never revolt and the side with the ideals refuses to buy guns.

Che Guevera and Timothy McVeigh would like a word with you.  There have been plenty of bloody leftist revolutions and plenty of right-wingers striking out at authority.

Which state did Che Guevara live in again?

The last time I went down this rabbit hole, my comments were deleted.  I'll just say that your comment makes a good point and I'll stop the threadjack.

There are probably relevant examples of radical violent leftists in the US, although maybe not many that are too recent.  On the whole, I agree with way south though.  The left in this country is neither extreme nor violent.  Our left is most of the rest of the world's middle or even center right.  What this might have to do with the bombing I don't know, unless they catch the asshole(s) responsible.


The Earth Liberation Front (ELF)?  The Weathermen/Bill Ayers?  The left in this country spent most of its radicalism in the 60s and 70s - I would argue that it's the right today that is having its radical moment, both in public policy (privatizing Medicare and Social Security) and in things like the militia movement and the anti-abortion movement (the George Tiller murder, Eric Rudolph the Atlanta Olympics bomber).
 
2013-04-17 11:42:16 AM  
You guys just don't love 'Merica. Praise Gawd and pass the ammo.
 
2013-04-17 12:29:35 PM  
I blame Tax Day
 
2013-04-17 12:36:40 PM  
How about we add term limits to senate seats, and hold a second vote when they either get voted out or hit that term limit.  We have a vote on whether people approve or disapprove of the job they did, with various outcomes based on the result.  75% or higher approval rating, you get a bonus.  50%-75% approval rating, nothing happens.  25%-50% you get 1 year in prison.  25% or lower, you get executed.
 
2013-04-17 12:55:56 PM  

pxlboy: And they'll get away with it, too. When are we going to get the pitchforks and torches and put these assholes out to pasture?


We know these assholes. We don't know what the assholes that would replace them would do.
 
2013-04-17 01:14:06 PM  

FLMountainMan: TimonC346: It's not even just congress--the farking president signed it.

The major difference I find between democrat and republican lawmakers (not voters) is that Republicans seem to not even try to Hide the fact they are mostly there to help out their rich buddies and companies.

Democrats are pretty brazen about it too.  They just have better marketing.  FFS, Pelosi appointed as Chair to the Judiciary Committee a guy who solicited (not just accepted, he went out and actively solicited) bribes while serving as a Federal judge.

The only thing worse than our system is the alternative, I guess.


They absolutely are "pretty" brazen--but not at the Republican "I'm wearing my contempt of anyone who makes under 100 million a year on my sleeve". Not quite. Think--Scott Walker.
 
2013-04-17 01:24:48 PM  

Tigger: So if both sides are bad who should I vote for.

I know - maybe the party whose policies are measurably worse for society, the economy and the country.


How about the guy telling you both sides are bad, despite the mouth pieces of those telling you he has no chance to win.
 
2013-04-17 06:45:14 PM  
Usually shining a light on roaches causes them to scurry.  No longer.
 
2013-04-17 06:55:57 PM  

fgdmorr: Usually shining a light on roaches causes them to scurry.  No longer.


What light?  The roaches already wrote a law making turning on the lights a criminal offense.  Of course, the lights still have to be maintained, facilitated by the fat money contract awarded to one of the roaches friends in a no-bid process.
 
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