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(Salon)   Actual headline: "Let's hope the Boston Marathon bomber is a white American." Because if there is one thing Americans can't stand, it is foreigners taking our jobs   (salon.com) divider line 259
    More: Asinine, Boston Marathon, Americans, Irish Republican Army, existential threat, David Sirota, Islamists, Department of Homeland Security, Tim Wise  
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2013-04-17 09:50:14 AM
When a white Christian blows shiat up (Like, say, abortion clinics or people at the Olympics), you don't get people seriously claiming every Christian is a terrorist.
 
2013-04-17 09:50:23 AM
"Hey, let's just hope that whoever did this is a member of a group that I don't like so that I can make political hay with it!" Go fark yourself. The only thing that I "hope" to find out about whoever did this is that they went home after the bombing, fell into a well, and were trapped there alive and conscious for 3 weeks while rabid rodents slowly gnawed away their genitals and extremities.
 
2013-04-17 09:51:49 AM

Wendy's Chili: HAMMERTOE: Where is the media fury? Where are the liberal cries to outlaw evil-looking "assault bombs"? Where are the cries to outlaw explosive substances wholesale? Explosive substances have but one purpose, (to ignite and burn explosively and destructively,) just like "guns have but one purpose, to kill." Where are the cries for background checks to purchase gasoline, or limiting possession to say, seven gallons at a time, no matter what size the gas tank?

Eh, no ulterior motives, I guess.

The bomb didn't use gasoline, it used--wait for it--gun powder.


I knew it was all guns fault, someone should arrest that dude
 
2013-04-17 09:52:06 AM

Nabb1: FLMountainMan: Nabb1: Someone got paid to write this sniveling piece of drivel?

It's not like you paid to read it though.....

Well, I read it before it went green, so in a sense, I did. Oh, well. You win some. You lose some.


I'd like to punch the writer in the face, especially since it wouldn't be a hate crime.
 
2013-04-17 09:53:01 AM
The article is largely correct.  If the shooter at Newtown turned out to be foreign, spoke with an accent, or was in any way brown, there would have been calls to deport or jail anybody that even resembled him.  Because he was a white, male kid, the most that happens is some vague plan of forcibly medicating anybody that might have some mental issue.
 
2013-04-17 09:53:12 AM

orbister: SlothB77: Second, Islamists declaring terrorism in the name of allah, with muslim groups taking responsibility, i.e., an islamic terrorist group took credit for the failed Times Square bombing, are existential threats.

What larger group was the Unabomber working for?  He was operating as a lone wolf.

Thanks. You just confirmed what the article said.


Problem with white people, the more you gather in a group, the lower the collective IQ becomes and the easier it is to find and stop them before they actually do any harm.
 
2013-04-17 09:53:52 AM

MilesTeg: Fairly successful troll by Salon.com. Has some key attributes to a good troll. Juvenile thinking and conclusions dressed up to sound intellectual for the weak minded. Also includes the standard liberal race baiting.

Then again, since the site lives on being trollish and creating content for the sole purpose of being linked to on news aggregators, not unexpected.

3/10


You could have saved a lot of keystrokes and just typed "LIBS!" with as many exclamation points as you deemed necessary.
 
2013-04-17 09:53:59 AM
my son has two muslim friends. both have said that they hoped that this guy is anything but muslim. my son realizes that even if this is done by a muslim, it doesn't taint all of them.
 
2013-04-17 09:54:19 AM

Wendy's Chili: HAMMERTOE: Where is the media fury? Where are the liberal cries to outlaw evil-looking "assault bombs"? Where are the cries to outlaw explosive substances wholesale? Explosive substances have but one purpose, (to ignite and burn explosively and destructively,) just like "guns have but one purpose, to kill." Where are the cries for background checks to purchase gasoline, or limiting possession to say, seven gallons at a time, no matter what size the gas tank?

Eh, no ulterior motives, I guess.

The bomb didn't use gasoline, it used--wait for it--gun powder.


It's a good thing fireworks don't have gunpowder in them.
 
2013-04-17 09:55:04 AM
Look!  It's an Assault Pressure Cooker!

www.lulusoso.com
 
2013-04-17 09:55:08 AM

LordJiro: When a white Christian blows shiat up (Like, say, abortion clinics or people at the Olympics), you don't get people seriously claiming every Christian is a terrorist.


Because they are not doing it every day, unlike a certain other religion.
 
2013-04-17 09:55:16 AM

Bloody William: Ohlookabutterfly: If you are going to troll someone by nitpicking their sentence structure, grammar, or misappropriate use of words you should learn how to spell the word "be"  there slapnuts. Now everyone thinks not only are you an arsehole, but also a mendicant, retard, and possibly drunk and/or stoned on paint thinner. Or should I say VARSOL just to be precise?

Question, and I usually just find said person stupid enough to not pay attention to, but... what the screaming fark is he  talking about? There's trolling and being antagonistic, and then there's nitpicking about grammar like you're autistic.


I don't think it's the word "existence" he's actually got his panties in a twist about but "to the thing", which MAYBE could have been "existence of the thing" maybe. But then I'm not going to criticize the original poster because he made his point in an empathetic manner. Also, I have no right to criticize others because I enjoy starting sentences with the words but and also, therefore I must not have graduated high school let alone college.
 
2013-04-17 09:56:01 AM

Ohlookabutterfly: tenpoundsofcheese: RexTalionis: tenpoundsofcheese: RexTalionis: RexTalionis: SlothB77: Second, Islamists declaring terrorism in the name of allah, with muslim groups taking responsibility, i.e., an islamic terrorist group took credit for the failed Times Square bombing, are existential threats.

I don't think you understand the word "existential." An existential threat is one that will may have the potential to end the existence to the thing that the threat is existential to. Unless those Islamists apparently also have hundreds of nuclear weapons aimed at us, it is not an existential threat.

People just like to use the word "existential threat" as a short-hand for "wow, I'm really worried, look at me pissing in my pants and soiling myself." Stop it. It's sloppy. It's inaccurate. It's intellectually dishonest and it's stupid.

Actually, I'm going to clarify that sentence a bit. See how I'm trying to be precise about my meaning? Try doing that instead of hand-wringing, teeth-gnashing fear-mongering.

If you are being precise, what do you mean by "end the existence to the thing"
?

ex·ist·ence
noun/igˈzistəns/
existences, plural

The fact or state of living or having objective reality- the plane was the oldest Boeing remaining in existence- the need to acknowledge the existence of a problemContinued survival- she helped to keep the company alive when its very existence was threatenedA way of living- living in a city was more expensive than a rural existenceAny of a person's supposed current, future, or past lives on this earth- reaping the consequences of evil deeds sown in previous existencesA being or entityAll that exists

So shouldn't it by

"End the existence OF the thing "
?

Since you were trying to be precise.

If you are going to troll someone by nitpicking their sentence structure, grammar, or misappropriate use of words you should learn how to spell the word "be"  there slapnuts. Now everyone thinks not only are you an arsehole, but also a mendicant, retard, and possibly drunk and/or stoned on paint thinner. Or should I say VARSOL just to be precise?


I wasn't the one claiming I was being precise.
 
2013-04-17 09:56:43 AM
 
2013-04-17 09:57:38 AM
After OKC, the Militia movement was all anyone talked about when it came to US terrorism. It took 9/11 to change that. And, not surprisingly, while the militia movement still exists and is dangerous, Islamism is still and rightfully considered a bigger threat because it's killed more people and has a large base of support outside of this country where we can't get to it.
 
2013-04-17 09:57:43 AM
It must be, because black people can't figure out bombs, and the Asians would have made a smaller, more sophisticated one.
 
2013-04-17 09:59:12 AM

Joe Blowme: LordJiro: When a white Christian blows shiat up (Like, say, abortion clinics or people at the Olympics), you don't get people seriously claiming every Christian is a terrorist.

Because they are not doing it every day, unlike a certain other religion.


Bronies are not a religion.
 
2013-04-17 10:00:51 AM

HAMMERTOE: Wendy's Chili: The bomb didn't use gasoline, it used--wait for it--gun powder.

Point conceded. Are you saying it couldn't have used gasoline? Gasoline can burn explosively as well, a fact that allows the internal combustion engine to operate. but, I wasn't making any distinction here. Explosive substances are explosive substances.


I think that if i were going to be toting around a bomb in a public place i wouldn't want it to be sloshing around and shiat.
 
2013-04-17 10:01:03 AM

Mohammad I'm Hard Bruce Lee: [i.imgur.com image 850x444]


Dude, where did that come from? Is that on the level?
 
2013-04-17 10:01:25 AM

Pocket Ninja: An atheist, gay, undocumented immigrant former late-term abortion providing and non-background-checked gun owning lone wolf terrorist.


I'm pretty sure Obama has an alibi
 
2013-04-17 10:01:40 AM

Jackson Herring: Pocket Ninja: Can you imagine if he turns out to be gay? Hoooo boy, that would muddy the water.

How about a gay lone wolf terrorist who had a brief career as an abortion doctor specializing in late-term abortions.

Oh, oh, I know. I gay lone wolf former late-term abortionist terrorist who owns over a dozen handguns and automatic rifles all purchased at gun shows. And he entered the country illegally 15 years ago and has been living here ever since. And he's an atheist.

An atheist, gay, undocumented immigrant former late-term abortion providing and non-background-checked gun owning lone wolf terrorist. Now  thatwould be something.

also he's a brony


Don't forget socialist or commie
 
2013-04-17 10:01:54 AM

jaybeezey: I think that if i were going to be toting around a bomb in a public place i wouldn't want it to be sloshing around and shiat.


A box of Tide helps turn gasoline to napalm. Sloshing problem solved.
 
2013-04-17 10:02:38 AM

Scythed: After OKC, the Militia movement was all anyone talked about when it came to US terrorism. It took 9/11 to change that. And, not surprisingly, while the militia movement still exists and is dangerous, Islamism is still and rightfully considered a bigger threat because it's killed more people and has a large base of support outside of this country where we can't get to it.


Get the f*ck out of here with your well-reasoned points and non-inflammatory language. This is Fark, f*ckface.
 
2013-04-17 10:03:23 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: Ohlookabutterfly: tenpoundsofcheese: RexTalionis: tenpoundsofcheese: RexTalionis: RexTalionis: SlothB77: Second, Islamists declaring terrorism in the name of allah, with muslim groups taking responsibility, i.e., an islamic terrorist group took credit for the failed Times Square bombing, are existential threats.

I don't think you understand the word "existential." An existential threat is one that will may have the potential to end the existence to the thing that the threat is existential to. Unless those Islamists apparently also have hundreds of nuclear weapons aimed at us, it is not an existential threat.

People just like to use the word "existential threat" as a short-hand for "wow, I'm really worried, look at me pissing in my pants and soiling myself." Stop it. It's sloppy. It's inaccurate. It's intellectually dishonest and it's stupid.

Actually, I'm going to clarify that sentence a bit. See how I'm trying to be precise about my meaning? Try doing that instead of hand-wringing, teeth-gnashing fear-mongering.

If you are being precise, what do you mean by "end the existence to the thing"
?

ex·ist·ence
noun/igˈzistəns/
existences, plural

The fact or state of living or having objective reality- the plane was the oldest Boeing remaining in existence- the need to acknowledge the existence of a problemContinued survival- she helped to keep the company alive when its very existence was threatenedA way of living- living in a city was more expensive than a rural existenceAny of a person's supposed current, future, or past lives on this earth- reaping the consequences of evil deeds sown in previous existencesA being or entityAll that exists

So shouldn't it by

"End the existence OF the thing "
?

Since you were trying to be precise.

If you are going to troll someone by nitpicking their sentence structure, grammar, or misappropriate use of words you should learn how to spell the word "be"  there slapnuts. Now everyone thinks not only are you an arsehole, but also a ...


Nobody said you were, but you were trying to bully someone who actually made his point without sounding arrogant or antagonistic and I tend to target bullies. I'm actually projecting self hatred of the bully in myself onto others who are much worse than I am. Because it's all about me, see.
 
2013-04-17 10:05:27 AM

HAMMERTOE: jaybeezey: I think that if i were going to be toting around a bomb in a public place i wouldn't want it to be sloshing around and shiat.

A box of Tide helps turn gasoline to napalm. Sloshing problem solved.


Thank you citizen.  You will be receiving a call shortly...

www.geek.com
 
2013-04-17 10:05:51 AM

syberpud: In fact, the author is engaging in their own hatred here in hoping it is his "other".  How about we put the political grandstanding and cheerleading on hold until we get some investigation done?


Are they, or are they just being practical - after 9/11 and the revelation it was caused by extremist muslims, dozens of sikhs, mexicans, and other innocents (including other law abiding muslims with no interest/involvement in terrorism) were killed, and thousands injured/harassed/firebombed/etc. If it is a white guy only the perpetrator(s) and the original victims are hurt, if it isn't a white guy a whole second wave of innocent people will get hurt or even killed in retaliatory attacks.
 
2013-04-17 10:06:37 AM

Joe Blowme: LordJiro: When a white Christian blows shiat up (Like, say, abortion clinics or people at the Olympics), you don't get people seriously claiming every Christian is a terrorist.

Because they are not doing it every day, unlike a certain other religion.


Because Christians have such a spotless, blood-free history, right? Things would TOTALLY be different if the theocratic tyrants and crazy terrorist-cult leaders were Christian!

The religion isn't the problem. When extremists have power, THAT is the problem.
 
2013-04-17 10:07:27 AM

AngryDragon: Thank you citizen. You will be receiving a call shortly...


* Crucial details omitted so as to not assist the chemically clueless. Not that it couldn't be looked up on the internet anyway. But if you'd like to pay me a visit, by all means. I have nothing to hide.
 
2013-04-17 10:07:39 AM
FullMetalPanda:  Jake Havechek: We're going to find the motherfarker, whomever it is, and tear them a new asshole.
No, they're going to find a scapegoat to stop people from panicking while the parties responsible get away with it for a decade or so until they're finally caught and it'll be on the back page of the paper.


They agree
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-04-17 10:07:50 AM
Call us genocidal bastards if you want, call us supremacists, call us kikes/hymiecountry/whatever racial insult you want, call us the new Nazis, I don't care.

But don't ever farking call us bronies.
 
2013-04-17 10:09:01 AM

Tatsuma: Call us genocidal bastards if you want, call us supremacists, call us kikes/hymiecountry/whatever racial insult you want, call us the new Nazis, I don't care.

But don't ever farking call us bronies.


Where is the "Like" button?
 
2013-04-17 10:09:18 AM

Scythed: After OKC, the Militia movement was all anyone talked about when it came to US terrorism. It took 9/11 to change that. And, not surprisingly, while the militia movement still exists and is dangerous, Islamism is still and rightfully considered a bigger threat because it's killed more people and has a large base of support outside of this country where we can't get to it.


This.
 
2013-04-17 10:09:41 AM
The headline and article are wrong in their assumption.  White mass-murderers also turn into systemic threats.

For instance, after Columbine, Aurora, and Sandy Hook (White shooters) you had leagues of people wanting to ban video games, because "gamers kill!  Gamers are a danger to America's values!" etc etc.
 
2013-04-17 10:09:53 AM

I_C_Weener: Joe Blowme: LordJiro: When a white Christian blows shiat up (Like, say, abortion clinics or people at the Olympics), you don't get people seriously claiming every Christian is a terrorist.

Because they are not doing it every day, unlike a certain other religion.

Bronies are not a religion.


Cult/ religion.... same thing.  Bronies scare teh piss out of me, when ever i see them on the street, i cross to the other side.
 
2013-04-17 10:09:58 AM
You know, I came in to this thread after reading the article all set to make a long-winded comment on the quality of editorial writing in American Journalism these days. That was, until I read  PocketNinja's analysis of the probable bomber profile and the follow on statements based on his post. It has so distracted me that I have instead a little song running through my head. You can all sing along if you like. It's done to the tune of "What Do You Do With a Problem Like Maria"  from the Julie Andrew's star vehicle "The Sound of Music". It goes like this:

Oooooooo, everyone here agrees with PocketNinjaaaaaa
Everyone here except for muck4doooooooo
Everyone here agrees with PocketNinjaaaaaa
So what's a poor muck4doo to f*cking dooooooooo?

I hate you for putting that in my head ninja.
 
2013-04-17 10:10:09 AM

LordJiro: Because Christians have such a spotless, blood-free history, right? Things would TOTALLY be different if the theocratic tyrants and crazy terrorist-cult leaders were Christian!

The religion isn't the problem. When extremists have power, THAT is the problem.


Actually, I'm going to on record and avow that religion gives extremists and terrorists a support system, reinforces their prejudices and feelings of alienation towards people who don't share the worship of their particular imaginary friend, and a crowd to hide amongst until they feel ready to strike.
 
2013-04-17 10:11:06 AM

neutronstar: I'm hoping its a woman.. its never a woman! The feminists are really slacking in the psycho terrorism equality area.


Yeah, women never act as suicide bombers
 
2013-04-17 10:11:34 AM

LordJiro: When a white Christian blows shiat up (Like, say, abortion clinics or people at the Olympics), you don't get people seriously claiming every Christian is a terrorist.


That's only because those of us who consider the Christian fundamentalist far right to be terrorists claim so all the time, not just during explosive events like this. Remember the debt ceiling bullshiat when they held the nation hostage so they could get "98% of what they wanted"? We were calling them terrorists then too. We are ignored because those fundamentalist assholes appear to be the largest minority, if not a majority.
 
2013-04-17 10:11:50 AM
There is a double standard: White terrorists local whackos are dealt with as lone wolves, Islamists  foreign nationals who cross international borders to attack us are existential threats
FTFTFA
 
2013-04-17 10:13:58 AM

Joe Blowme: I_C_Weener: Joe Blowme: LordJiro: When a white Christian blows shiat up (Like, say, abortion clinics or people at the Olympics), you don't get people seriously claiming every Christian is a terrorist.

Because they are not doing it every day, unlike a certain other religion.

Bronies are not a religion.

Cult/ religion.... same thing.  Bronies scare teh piss out of me, when ever i see them on the street, i cross to the other side.


but... but... biker pony!
]i451.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-17 10:15:00 AM

Feral_and_Preposterous: If they're agents of a foreign government: I hope they're from Lichtenstein. That one would be over pretty quickly.


I am hoping it is Bhutan. Those guys are pussies!
 
2013-04-17 10:16:38 AM
Daybreak is coming.
 
2013-04-17 10:16:44 AM

AngryDragon: Look!  It's an Assault Pressure Cooker!

[www.lulusoso.com image 679x800]


Well, darn it.  That means no more broasted chicken and jo-jos.
 
2013-04-17 10:19:17 AM
Stop all foreign student visa programs. Would cull 90% of this crap. No reason for it any way.
 
2013-04-17 10:20:18 AM

Nabb1: Wendy's Chili: HAMMERTOE: Where is the media fury? Where are the liberal cries to outlaw evil-looking "assault bombs"? Where are the cries to outlaw explosive substances wholesale? Explosive substances have but one purpose, (to ignite and burn explosively and destructively,) just like "guns have but one purpose, to kill." Where are the cries for background checks to purchase gasoline, or limiting possession to say, seven gallons at a time, no matter what size the gas tank?

Eh, no ulterior motives, I guess.

The bomb didn't use gasoline, it used--wait for it--gun powder.

It's a good thing fireworks don't have gunpowder in them.


It's a good thing fireworks are banned in Massachusetts.
 
2013-04-17 10:21:58 AM
Let's hope people are smart enough not to blame/target an entire group of people based on the actions of a few. Let's go with that, shall we?
 
2013-04-17 10:22:07 AM
We white Americans are proud of our fat, lazy, hate-mongering, pedophile, racist, serial-killer, hillbilly, corporate-greed, zealously-uber-religious stereotype. Don't take that from us.
i.imgur.com
 
2013-04-17 10:23:37 AM
Title is over the top but he's not wrong.
 
2013-04-17 10:25:21 AM
I have a completely new theory for who the bomber was.  Maybe he was just an avid XKCD reader, who didn't read disclaimers, and needed to try this out:

http://what-if.xkcd.com/40/
 
2013-04-17 10:26:11 AM

S.A.S.Q.U.A.T.C.H.: from the troll article:

"White privilege is knowing that if this bomber turns out to be white, the United States government will not bomb whatever corn field or mountain town or stale suburb from which said bomber came.."

Apparently you've missed this conversation in the news the last 2 months:

[static.guim.co.uk image 460x276]

Yes, it's illegal for us to carpet bomb domestic terrorists, because they're CITIZENS and therefore protected by our legal justice system rights.

But don't worry, we're working on getting around it.


Why do you think there was a no-fly zone suddenly and briefly over Dorner? The cops didn't burn the house down, they called in a predator strike and needed the airspace clear.
 
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