If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(Ars Technica)   Microsoft may be starting to realize that most PCs do not have a touch screen interface   (arstechnica.com) divider line 202
    More: Dumbass, Start Button, Windows Blue, Windows, Microsoft, touch screens, Foley's, rushing  
•       •       •

10018 clicks; posted to Geek » on 16 Apr 2013 at 3:29 PM (1 year ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



202 Comments   (+0 »)
   
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

Archived thread

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | » | Last | Show all
 
2013-04-16 03:30:15 PM  
img.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-16 03:31:13 PM  
Yeah, I've seen many places already calling Win 8 a failure, some even saying it might kill the PC. That's going a little far, but maybe not much.
 
2013-04-16 03:33:07 PM  
UH DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
 
2013-04-16 03:35:04 PM  
I touch the screen of my PC all the time.

It doesn't do anything however.
 
2013-04-16 03:35:10 PM  
Gnome 3.8 brought back "classic mode," so now it's Microsoft's turn.
 
2013-04-16 03:35:59 PM  
Windows 98 GOOD?  It had no security, you could just escape through the login prompt.  Plus, it wasn't mulit-threaded...if one process locked the OS locked.

And I would actually reevaluate Win95.  Yes it had problems (like all MS products), but it brought us all kinds of innovation.  Most notable, the NICs were installed with the OS.  Prior to that you had to edit the autoexec.bat and config.sys files and load the NIC drivers manually.

And you left out Windows NT (workstation)....much more secure, and MULTI-THREADED.
 
2013-04-16 03:36:55 PM  

DanZero: [img.photobucket.com image 640x502]


I get most of that, but was Windows 95 really bad for its time?  I thought it was fairly revolutionary.

Obviously it ran its course.  But it was a kinda big deal to me at the time.

The other stuff... totally agreed.
 
2013-04-16 03:38:19 PM  
Much like the always-online debacle in gaming, Microsoft forcing "the future" on an infrastructure that can't handle it is biting them in the ass.
 
2013-04-16 03:41:54 PM  
I'm still of the belief that Win 8 is a good OS.
The back end is better than 7. The only problem they had is they made the decision that touchscreen adoption would be faster.

MS could have shut a lot of mouths by allowing you to choose the UI when you installed the OS.
 
2013-04-16 03:42:47 PM  

DanZero: [img.photobucket.com image 640x502]


There was nothing particularly bad about Win 95 as far as I can remember.
 
2013-04-16 03:45:07 PM  
Uses Windows 8 on desktop.

Does not have any problems.

You all suck.

Stop whining.
 
2013-04-16 03:46:30 PM  

Virtual Pariah: I'm still of the belief that Win 8 is a good OS.
The back end is better than 7. The only problem they had is they made the decision that touchscreen adoption would be faster.

MS could have shut a lot of mouths by allowing you to choose the UI when you installed the OS.


THIS...

My Brother-in-law bought a Surface, and Win8 is absolutely awesome on that platform. 
My best friend bought a laptop and I was ready to toss it after about 10 minutes.
 
2013-04-16 03:46:44 PM  

Virtual Pariah: I'm still of the belief that Win 8 is a good OS.
The back end is better than 7. The only problem they had is they made the decision that touchscreen adoption would be faster.

MS could have shut a lot of mouths by allowing you to choose the UI when you installed the OS.


Or maybe even have it detect whether a touchscreen interface was available, and then acting accordingly.

I know, that's a revolutionary concept, but they're supposedly smart people.  They might be able to figure it out eventually.
 
2013-04-16 03:48:37 PM  

show me: Yeah, I've seen many places already calling Win 8 a failure, some even saying it might kill the PC. That's going a little far, but maybe not much.


Comedy (less comedic than in years past) Linux or Unix option.
 
2013-04-16 03:48:47 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Virtual Pariah: I'm still of the belief that Win 8 is a good OS.
The back end is better than 7. The only problem they had is they made the decision that touchscreen adoption would be faster.

MS could have shut a lot of mouths by allowing you to choose the UI when you installed the OS.

Or maybe even have it detect whether a touchscreen interface was available, and then acting accordingly.

I know, that's a revolutionary concept, but they're supposedly smart people.  They might be able to figure it out eventually.


Sure they are. But I still would have had it optional.

That way there is no complaining from the anti MS crew.
 
2013-04-16 03:56:05 PM  

Virtual Pariah: I'm still of the belief that Win 8 is a good OS.
The back end is better than 7. The only problem they had is they made the decision that touchscreen adoption would be faster.

MS could have shut a lot of mouths by allowing you to choose the UI when you installed the OS.


Honestly, it is the stupid advertising.  Their concentration on the start screen for the advertising has convinced everyone that it IS the OS.

Windows 8 looks like this for 99% of the time you're running it:

img.hexus.net
 
2013-04-16 03:57:13 PM  
I spent 2 weeks using Windows 8 exclusively. It's fine. I like it. I grok it now.
 
2013-04-16 03:57:56 PM  

ristst: And you left out Windows NT (workstation)....much more secure, and MULTI-THREADED.


NT got me fired. Turned out I got trolled by helpdesk QC for Bell Atlantic when I got a call from someone with a USB DSL modem trying to install on an NT machine. They said I disparaged the piece of shiat USB modem when I recommended they get the ethernet interface rather than change their operating system.

And you'll note that Verizon (the name they changed to the day I got fired) went with my solution. farking USB modems were never a good idea when you could just make a router / modem. MY WHOLE JOB EXISTED BECAUSE THEY CHOSE USB HARDWARE. Now that they just roll out nice Motorola hardware instead of Alcatel they save so much money on help desk that last time I called them the help desk was at a much higher level of competence than back in my "hand holding thru fixing USB problem" days.

/imagine my shock when I found that HP eventually took my 1998 suggestion that they put the USB print drivers on the printer.
 
2013-04-16 03:58:06 PM  
Sooo most of the industry pundits and all of your customers tell you they do not want an interface change well in advance of release.  Yet, you do it anyway...

neubranderinc.com
 
2013-04-16 03:58:13 PM  

Marine1: Uses Windows 8 on desktop.

Does not have any problems.

You all suck.

Stop whining.


The biggest problem is that people are convinced that they're supposed to "do something" with their start menu, like it's where they're going to spend all their time.  Also, people don't realize that you turn it off by using the revolutionary "power button" that's physically on your machine.

Honestly, if someone is given maybe 3 or 4 minutes of instruction on it, they'd be gold.
 
2013-04-16 03:58:18 PM  
Microsoft has another think coming too...............


Linux is the fastest growing OS in the world.  the only place where growth is slower is Desktop (especially in the U.S.), because Microsoftie has a lock on the OEM's.  but that, too, shall pass one day.

Android, based on Linux, has the most number of mobile users in the world by far.

Linux flat out dominates on servers, supercomputers, and data centers.

(ah-oh, here comes the Redmond Fanboys)
 
2013-04-16 03:58:30 PM  

Virtual Pariah: I'm still of the belief that Win 8 is a good OS.
The back end is better than 7. The only problem they had is they made the decision that touchscreen adoption would be faster.

MS could have shut a lot of mouths by allowing you to choose the UI when you installed the OS.


It's a good OS, with an unfortunate UI decision. Luckily, it can be remedied with a free add-on.
Metro is fine when you're using a tablet. But I found it gets in the way when I'm using a keyboard and mouse in a desktop setting.
 
2013-04-16 03:59:47 PM  

meanmutton: Virtual Pariah: I'm still of the belief that Win 8 is a good OS.
The back end is better than 7. The only problem they had is they made the decision that touchscreen adoption would be faster.

MS could have shut a lot of mouths by allowing you to choose the UI when you installed the OS.

Honestly, it is the stupid advertising.  Their concentration on the start screen for the advertising has convinced everyone that it IS the OS.

Windows 8 looks like this for 99% of the time you're running it:

[img.hexus.net image 850x478]


I know.
I'm using it on my laptop and have no issues with it.

But, I'm so sick of hearing complaints about the start screen. Just make it optional and be done with the noise already.
 
2013-04-16 03:59:57 PM  
ristst:

And you left out Windows NT (workstation)....much more secure, and MULTI-THREADED.

The  "alternating good/bad" lists typically skip the Professional OS releases (NT, win2000, etc)
 
2013-04-16 04:00:53 PM  
and no, Microsoft/users, shooting your goo on the monitor screen does not constitute 'touching' the screen.  so that can't be counted.
 
2013-04-16 04:00:58 PM  
Stupid question..

I know there is a standard looking PC desktop in Windows 8.

Isn't there a way the OS could just detect whether there was touch screen hardware or not and set the default user interface accordingly?
 
2013-04-16 04:01:13 PM  
Would be nice to see the Start button come back. As a power user, I have little use for the Metro interface, and prefer the plain old desktop. We do graphics and video editing on these machines, and arent much of a browsing bunch.
 
2013-04-16 04:04:30 PM  

Marine1: Uses Windows 8 on desktop.

Does not have any problems.

You all suck.

Stop whining.


I like 8 on desktop. Would really be happy to see start menu come back though.
 
2013-04-16 04:05:32 PM  
I wonder if a bunch of people will proclaim it's the best version of Windows ever like they did when they updated Vista and called it 7...
 
2013-04-16 04:06:03 PM  

MilesTeg: Stupid question..

I know there is a standard looking PC desktop in Windows 8.

Isn't there a way the OS could just detect whether there was touch screen hardware or not and set the default user interface accordingly?


The problem is that what you're thinking of as a "default user interface" is just a full-screen start menu with some add-on features.  It's not a full user interface.
 
2013-04-16 04:07:03 PM  
Win95 came with Weezer's Buddy Holly video on the disk.

Thus, it was awesome.
 
2013-04-16 04:08:12 PM  

rooftop235: Marine1: Uses Windows 8 on desktop.

Does not have any problems.

You all suck.

Stop whining.

I like 8 on desktop. Would really be happy to see start menu come back though.


I miss the View Remote Printers button a whole lot more than the Start button... Having to go through print management to view\change settings on a network printer is a bit cumbersome.
 
2013-04-16 04:10:03 PM  

MilesTeg: Stupid question..

I know there is a standard looking PC desktop in Windows 8.

Isn't there a way the OS could just detect whether there was touch screen hardware or not and set the default user interface accordingly?


You would have thought that someone at Microsoft might have thought of that. Detects touchscreen - boot into Metro. Mouse and keyboard - boot to the desktop.

But that really is the problem with Microsoft. They don't have any common sense at all. They design the systems the way that they want them to run and force it on the rest of the world - and succeed in doing it because of their monopoly.

Well, strength at Apple, the dominance of mobile computing, and deliberate weakening of the PC as a jack-of-all-trades is effectively encouraging the market to no longer want a PC. Sure, we all have them. But the iPad and Playstation let me do all of the same things. By only selling what Microsoft thinks the world wants instead of selling the world what they want and need - they are destroying an entire ecosystem.

What happened to WHS is a classic example of how Microsoft thinks.
 
2013-04-16 04:11:03 PM  
Windows 8 should've really just been a Windows 7 service pack with backend modifications to improve battery life. Also, UI was horrible choice for laptops and desktops. Also I've noticed that while Windows 8 improves battery life on average laptops, it also kills their processing speeds. Then again. Windows 8 is the spearhead to remove choice from the PC and turn it into a glorified tablet and make it into a constant money stream to the company.
 
2013-04-16 04:14:14 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Much like the always-online debacle in gaming, Microsoft forcing "the future" on an infrastructure that can't handle it is biting them in the ass.


this
 
2013-04-16 04:15:53 PM  
"Windows Blue"? Ahhh, they must mean "Windows Blew!"
 
2013-04-16 04:16:54 PM  
Microsoft, please let my Linksys extender work with Win 8 Media Center and I'd be happy to kick the tires on Win 8.
 
2013-04-16 04:18:49 PM  
So basically Windows Blue = Windows 7 SP2.
 
2013-04-16 04:19:55 PM  
Lol terrible article is terrible. You can already set the start menu not to come up by default.
 
2013-04-16 04:20:22 PM  

MilesTeg: Stupid question..

I know there is a standard looking PC desktop in Windows 8.

Isn't there a way the OS could just detect whether there was touch screen hardware or not and set the default user interface accordingly?


They are trying to present a consistent view across the desktops, laptops, tablets and phones... Not saying that's a good idea, I just think that's what they were aiming for.
 
2013-04-16 04:20:31 PM  
A colleague of mine installed Windows 8 on his computer at home.  He has nothing but good praise for it.  We both work in IT.  I asked my boss to fire him based on incompetence.
 
2013-04-16 04:22:57 PM  
You know what's great about Windows 8? Copying and pasting large files actually works this time around.

activewin.com
 
2013-04-16 04:22:59 PM  
That's all they gotta do to restore my interest in it, they bring back the option for a start button driven straight to the desktop login sequence and I'll probably take a look at it.  You can write it off as trivial or 'work-aroundable' but its still a warning sign that MS was not listening to their users.  I didn't like the idea of needing to install 3rd party mods just to restore the OS to the same very core function concept that its predecessors have followed for almost 20 years.  It wasn't broken, don't fix it.
 
das
2013-04-16 04:23:36 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Virtual Pariah: I'm still of the belief that Win 8 is a good OS.
The back end is better than 7. The only problem they had is they made the decision that touchscreen adoption would be faster.

MS could have shut a lot of mouths by allowing you to choose the UI when you installed the OS.

It's a good OS, with an unfortunate UI decision. Luckily, it can be remedied with a free add-on.
Metro is fine when you're using a tablet. But I found it gets in the way when I'm using a keyboard and mouse in a desktop setting.


I used that. It works great!!!!
 
kab
2013-04-16 04:23:39 PM  
Change is good, always.  Never bad.

So if you don't like W8, you're automatically a bad person, or luddite, or something.
 
2013-04-16 04:23:52 PM  
You're an absolute idiot if the start menu made you completely and totally dismiss Windows 8, but that said, MS is kind of an idiot for not offering a way to toggle as part of the shipping OS.

I think people are wrong to whine about the Metro start, but my god it's a stupid simple fix, they should have just shipped it with the option.
 
2013-04-16 04:24:03 PM  

sure haven't: scottydoesntknow: Much like the always-online debacle in gaming, Microsoft forcing "the future" on an infrastructure that can't handle it is biting them in the ass.

this


Sure,
Except for that whole "not confirmed" thing.

Can we please complain about the shiat MS has done wrong without postulating on the shiat they might do wrong?
 
2013-04-16 04:25:02 PM  
I've actually learned to live without the start button, but the godawful unforgivable process of adding a user was enough to make me punch babies, not to mention the way it handles credentials between the admin and user accounts.  I get the whole 'sync' across devices thing, but make it a freakin option, just like the Start button should have been.  Don't remove functionality.  Add new, but don't remove.  All the people who suggested these changes should be drawn and quartered.
 
2013-04-16 04:26:44 PM  

Linux_Yes: and no, Microsoft/users, shooting your goo on the monitor screen does not constitute 'touching' the screen.  so that can't be counted.


You really are a total sperglord aren't you?
 
2013-04-16 04:27:04 PM  

Old enough to know better: So basically Windows Blue = Windows 7 SP2.


Kinda

Windows 7 was really Vista SP2 and Win 8 is technically 6.2. Blue is barely a service pack, so probably call it 6.21.
 
Displayed 50 of 202 comments

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | » | Last | Show all

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


This thread is archived, and closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »






Report