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(Think Progress)   Mitch McConnell offers comforting words regarding the Boston Marathon bombing. Just kidding, he actually blames the victims for being too complacent   (thinkprogress.org) divider line 324
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2013-04-16 12:03:05 PM  
Ah, Republicans, winning over losing more Americans one by one.
 
2013-04-16 12:08:56 PM  
It's a just world!

Bad happens to the bad; good happens to the good.   If something horrific happened to you, you must have deserved it.

After all the alternative is to think that bad things can happen to people who have nothing to do with the incident and are doing nothing wrong, like me, and we can't have that.
 
2013-04-16 12:10:53 PM  
MCCONNELL: On 9/11 we forever disabused of the notion that attacks, like the one that rocked Boston yesterday ,only happen on the field of battle or in distant countries. With the passage of time, however, and the vigilant efforts of our military, intelligence and law enforcement professionals, I think it's safe to say that for many, the complacency that prevailed prior to September 11th has actually returned.

Stay in fear, citizen.
 
2013-04-16 12:20:47 PM  
So what, the TSA will start screening marathons?

Bad shiat happens. It sucks that it happens, but it will happen. It always happens. The worst thing you can do is let the bad guy think he won by convincing everyone to live in fear or trying to control the population through fear.
 
2013-04-16 12:26:49 PM  
FEAR. FEAR. FEAR. FEAR. FEAR. FEAR. FEAR. FEAR. FEAR.
 
2013-04-16 12:28:30 PM  
STFU, sh*tstain

/your input is unneeded
 
2013-04-16 01:04:46 PM  
Oh, f*ck YOU, McConnell, you wobbly lying pants-shiatting coward.
 
2013-04-16 01:19:49 PM  

Chariset: Bad happens to the bad; good happens to the good. If something horrific happened to you, you must have deserved it.


It's easy to say this from the relative isolation of Kentucky. When was the last time a "terrorist" even looked at Kentucky on a map, The Civil War?

// yes, I know he spends lots of time here in DC
// the constituencies he's speaking to...don't
 
2013-04-16 01:28:49 PM  
The pols know there's an opportunity here to put the boot down even harder on our necks.  It would be stupid to think they won't attempt to capitalize on it.  We have become complacent about terrorism, and I don't honestly think that's a bad thing, but more dangerous is how complacent we've become about politics and accountability.
 
2013-04-16 02:22:35 PM  

Chariset: It's a just world!

Bad happens to the bad; good happens to the good.   If something horrific happened to you, you must have deserved it.

After all the alternative is to think that bad things can happen to people who have nothing to do with the incident and are doing nothing wrong, like me, and we can't have that.


People say life is unfair, but that is only half right. Life is  inherently unfair.  Whatever fairness we receive in life is a direct result of the fairness we give to others. No more and no less.
 
2013-04-16 02:24:29 PM  
I'm more frightened of Republicans than terrorists or even the random nutjob.

See, Republicans have the power to destroy us all, and want to use that power to destroy us all if we don't bow to their whims. Terrorists and random nutjobs? They only pop up occasionally, and their bodycount is generally much lower.
 
2013-04-16 02:36:40 PM  
Would someone throw a bucket of water on this guy so we can watch him melt?
 
2013-04-16 02:39:39 PM  
Living in a constant state of fear is the only way to defeat terrorism.
 
2013-04-16 02:44:13 PM  
can you imagine the apoplexy from the right if obama had said something like that?
 
2013-04-16 02:46:29 PM  
I'm surprised he didn't try to blame Obama or the Democrats.

/Waiting for that fallout to happen
 
2013-04-16 03:02:21 PM  
If I understand him correctly, his concern is that we have allowed citizens to collectively neglect their civic duty to take affirmative steps to protect other Americans, a duty which cannot be considered a personal responsibility? And that such steps may require sacrifices of both freedom and money?

Did I read that right?
 
2013-04-16 03:05:35 PM  
If the good guys had bombs then they could have stopped the bad guys with bombs, with bombs.
 
2013-04-16 03:06:06 PM  
How's that outreach coming?
 
2013-04-16 03:09:27 PM  
The right wing seems to be going out of their way to be as awful as possible in the past 24 hours.
 
2013-04-16 03:09:52 PM  
I think it's safe to say that for many, the complacency that prevailed prior to September 11th has actually returned

Oh for shame!

---------------
And so we are newly reminded that serious threats to our way of life remain.

Be afraid! Damn you!
 
2013-04-16 03:11:34 PM  
Easy for him to say... not everyone can hide as well as he can.

icons-ak.wunderground.com
 
2013-04-16 03:12:44 PM  
And if it it turns out this was perpetrated by 'one of our own' will he stand by those words?

Sounds to me like he's strongly implying a particular responsible party.
 
2013-04-16 03:15:37 PM  
Mitch...

(insert you aren't helping photo)

that is all.
 
2013-04-16 03:19:19 PM  
Alternatively, is McConnell suggesting that "complacency" by ordinary Americans somehow contributed to the attack?

So be afraid and vote republican, otherwise the libs will keep letting this shiat happen.
 
2013-04-16 03:22:31 PM  
ASSHOLE: On 9/11 we forever disabused of the notion that attacks, like the one that rocked Boston yesterday, only happen on the field of battle or in distant countries.

i.imgur.com i.imgur.com

fark YOU MITCH MCCONNELL.
SERIOUSLY.
fark YOU AND ALL YOU STAND FOR
YOU INCREDIBLE ASSHOLE



/OKIE
 
2013-04-16 03:23:04 PM  

Krymson Tyde: Alternatively, is McConnell suggesting that "complacency" by ordinary Americans somehow contributed to the attack?

So be afraid and vote republican, otherwise the libs will keep letting this shiat happen.


Yep. Pretty much. What a farking douchenozzle.
 
2013-04-16 03:30:24 PM  
Its such a shame, because before he said this, I had so much respect for Mitch McConnell, one of our greatest Senators! How could someone so usually cogent and kind say something so terrible?

Its really upsetting.
 
2013-04-16 03:40:19 PM  
Free men neither live, nor die, on thier knees,  asshole
 
2013-04-16 03:51:22 PM  
Fear, Fear, she's the mother of Violence,
Don't make any sense to watch the way she breed.
Fear, she's the mother of Violence,
Making me tense to watch the way she feed.
The only way you know she's there Is the subtle flavor in the air.
Getting hard to breathe
Getting hard to believe in anything at all
But Fear.
 
2013-04-16 03:51:51 PM  

usernameguy: The right wing seems to be going out of their way to be as awful as possible in the past 24 hours

50 years.

FTFY
 
2013-04-16 03:52:23 PM  
If only our rights to a pressure cooker were enshrined in the Constitution.
 
2013-04-16 03:52:25 PM  
So he's declaring this a DerpCon One level incident?
 
2013-04-16 03:52:35 PM  
Sure, easy for him to say, he has the FBI watching him.
 
2013-04-16 03:53:41 PM  
See, I think the problem is looking to McConnell for comfort in the first place.

The man has all the empathy and humanity of a petrified turd.
 
2013-04-16 03:56:23 PM  
the complacency that prevailed prior to September 11th has actually returned.

Oh, FFS. He's regurgitating the "pre 9/11 mentality" BS.

Reflexive fearmongeringitus.

Mitchy haz it.

On 9/11 we forever disabused of the notion that attacks,...

Ability to speak correctly in English? Not so much.
 
2013-04-16 03:56:24 PM  
fark you Mitch McConnell.
 
2013-04-16 03:56:33 PM  
I think it's safe to say that for many, the complacency that prevailed prior to September 11th has actually returned.

Actually, I'm not sure it is necessarily safe to say that. For example, try saying it in Boston. See how safe you feel then.
 
2013-04-16 03:57:26 PM  
that guy can go ahead and take a long walk of a short pier
 
2013-04-16 03:57:42 PM  
The Turtle's mind runs just as fast as his body.
 
2013-04-16 03:57:42 PM  
Keep talking, Mitch. You are currently bolstering the Dems.
 
2013-04-16 03:57:53 PM  
He's right.

There is a box on the corner.  It might be a bomb, I am calling 911.
 
2013-04-16 03:58:01 PM  
Christ. Less than 24 hours and he's saying this shiat?

Like I really needed another reason to despise that turd.
 
2013-04-16 03:58:24 PM  
This is a party that has obviously learned from past mistakes.
 
2013-04-16 03:58:30 PM  
I hate that bag of talking diarrhea as much as the next guy, but no, subby, he didn't really say that.
 
2013-04-16 03:58:43 PM  
That's because republicans seem to think the only way to live is in constant, near-paralyzing fear.
 
2013-04-16 03:59:14 PM  

I_Am_Weasel: Fear, Fear, she's the mother of Violence,
Don't make any sense to watch the way she breed.
Fear, she's the mother of Violence,
Making me tense to watch the way she feed.
The only way you know she's there Is the subtle flavor in the air.
Getting hard to breathe
Getting hard to believe in anything at all
But Fear.


Are you my good twin or something?
 
2013-04-16 03:59:19 PM  
There's nothing controversial about warning people against complacency when it comes to terrorism.   Unless you happen to be a big fan of complacency.
 
2013-04-16 03:59:39 PM  
No he didn't.
 
2013-04-16 04:00:01 PM  
Reading his comments, he basically said "we've become complacent again".  Is that really blaming the victims?
 
2013-04-16 04:00:18 PM  
The fact that the fascist party of America makes this statement shocks anyone?
 
2013-04-16 04:00:33 PM  
The rightwing/Republican military industrial complex must be fed, otherwise there is not enough profit for the billionaires who profit over death/war and profit over the paranoia of possible death from a crazy rightwing nutjob.


/1984 is a good movie or read.
//Based on facts of the 'mid 2002 and up' Republican propaganda mission.
///Science fiction: Seeing into the future and hoping it does not happen like that.
 
2013-04-16 04:00:36 PM  
This guy is trying to get re-elected, right?
 
2013-04-16 04:00:49 PM  

Aarontology: FEAR. FEAR. FEAR. FEAR. FEAR. FEAR. FEAR. FEAR. FEAR.


chameleonsden.com
 
2013-04-16 04:01:47 PM  

simplicimus: Would someone throw a bucket of water on this guy so we can watch him melt?


Lets throw him in the Charles instead.
 
2013-04-16 04:01:58 PM  

SkinnyHead: There's nothing controversial about warning people against complacency when it comes to terrorism.   Unless you happen to be a big fan of complacency.


Except that is a completely transparent attempt at ginning up fear so that you will vote GOP and Big Government [Depart of Defense] and line the pockets further of defense contractors, but I guess in the post WWII era that isn't controversial, that is just the same happy bullsh*t we live with every day, much like oxygen poaching Fark posters who force us to respond to their retardation.
 
2013-04-16 04:02:17 PM  

impaler: I think it's safe to say that for many, the complacency that prevailed prior to September 11th has actually returned

Oh for shame!

---------------
And so we are newly reminded that serious threats to our way of life remain.

Be afraid! Damn you!


And obviously the GOP strategy is to fark up our way of life so badly that threatening it would just be unnecessary. Keep it up Mitch.
 
2013-04-16 04:02:31 PM  

Somacandra: ASSHOLE: On 9/11 we forever disabused of the notion that attacks, like the one that rocked Boston yesterday, only happen on the field of battle or in distant countries.

[i.imgur.com image 413x333] [i.imgur.com image 408x599]

fark YOU MITCH MCCONNELL.
SERIOUSLY.
fark YOU AND ALL YOU STAND FOR
YOU INCREDIBLE ASSHOLE


/OKIE


I was in OKC that day on a field trip.  We had just left downtown OKC and were heading back to Sequoyah county were I am from and had made it to Shawnee when we heard the news, don't even remember what we were there for at the time.

Fark you Mitch McConnel from another

/OKIE
 
2013-04-16 04:03:14 PM  
But we've been stopping the construction of Mosques and protecting our 2nd amendment rights!

everything marked everything membered!
 
2013-04-16 04:04:21 PM  
please
Reading his comments, he basically said "we've become complacent again".  Is that really blaming the victims?

No, but I reserve the right to consider him a jackass for what he said.

/After all, they should have been searching backpacks at an open event to make sure their weren't terrorists there.  Or maybe control the sale of bulk ball bearings.

//Where does one buy bulk ball bearings anyway?  Isn't that a lead?
 
2013-04-16 04:04:29 PM  
OH! and preventing the infiltration of our Government of Islamic extremists!
 
2013-04-16 04:07:10 PM  

coeyagi: SkinnyHead: There's nothing controversial about warning people against complacency when it comes to terrorism.   Unless you happen to be a big fan of complacency.

Except that is a completely transparent attempt at ginning up fear so that you will vote GOP and Big Government [Depart of Defense] and line the pockets further of defense contractors, but I guess in the post WWII era that isn't controversial, that is just the same happy bullsh*t we live with every day, much like oxygen poaching Fark posters who force us to respond to their retardation.


The actual reason why libs are so offended by talk about complacency is that they see it as an attack on their complacent president.
 
2013-04-16 04:07:17 PM  
Yes how complacent of me for gathering in large groups, going outside and doing things.  I should be ever vigilant and huddle in the darkness, alone so not to make myself a target.
 
2013-04-16 04:08:34 PM  
What a coincidence. I was just wondering what a cartoonish super villain would say.
 
2013-04-16 04:08:46 PM  

SkinnyHead: There's nothing controversial about warning people against complacency when it comes to terrorism.   Unless you happen to be a big fan of complacency.


You know who else was complacent in the face of terrorism?
 
2013-04-16 04:09:03 PM  

SkinnyHead: coeyagi: SkinnyHead: There's nothing controversial about warning people against complacency when it comes to terrorism.   Unless you happen to be a big fan of complacency.

Except that is a completely transparent attempt at ginning up fear so that you will vote GOP and Big Government [Depart of Defense] and line the pockets further of defense contractors, but I guess in the post WWII era that isn't controversial, that is just the same happy bullsh*t we live with every day, much like oxygen poaching Fark posters who force us to respond to their retardation.

The actual reason why libs are so offended by talk about complacency is that they see it as an attack on their complacent president.


I know! just ask Osama Bin Laden!!! oh wait..
 
2013-04-16 04:09:12 PM  
disingenuous headline. he's not blaming the victims.
 
2013-04-16 04:09:34 PM  

vernonFL: SkinnyHead: There's nothing controversial about warning people against complacency when it comes to terrorism.   Unless you happen to be a big fan of complacency.

You know who else was complacent in the face of terrorism?


lh6.googleusercontent.com
 
2013-04-16 04:09:46 PM  
Still not as low as what Wolf Blitzer did.
 
2013-04-16 04:11:51 PM  
I'm no fan of Mitch McConnell (actually, I'd like to put him on top of a fence post and watch him struggle to get down), but I don't quite read this as him blaming victims. I mean, yes, he said people have become complacent, but as poorly worded as his statement (and command of English) was, nothing in it seemed to indicate the blame lay with the people. He credits law enforcement agencies for preventing attacks and says we'll keep working on that, which at least hints that the blame lies with terrorists.
That being said, it won't surprise me if the powers that be use this an yet another excuse to try and restrict our liberties.
 
2013-04-16 04:13:13 PM  
That's some pretty sleazy politicizing by good ol' ThinkProgress right there, folks.
 
2013-04-16 04:13:34 PM  
Yeah, Mitch, sorry, I didn't piss myself over 9/11 like turtles do when scared, I'm not going to do it now.

/Complacency: realizing perfect security is impossible, especially if you have to pay for it.
 
2013-04-16 04:14:27 PM  

please: Reading his comments, he basically said "we've become complacent again".  Is that really blaming the victims?


It's worse.  It's indicting our society for learning not to jump at shadows.
 
2013-04-16 04:14:56 PM  

Enemabag Jones: please
Reading his comments, he basically said "we've become complacent again".  Is that really blaming the victims?
No, but I reserve the right to consider him a jackass for what he said.

/After all, they should have been searching backpacks at an open event to make sure their weren't terrorists there.  Or maybe control the sale of bulk ball bearings.

//Where does one buy bulk ball bearings anyway?  Isn't that a lead?


you could steal them two or three at a time from Lowe's. theoretically.
 
2013-04-16 04:15:12 PM  

SkinnyHead: There's nothing controversial about warning people against complacency when it comes to terrorism.   Unless you happen to be a big fan of complacency.


When the entire point to terrorism is to make people afraid then... yeah, standing there telling people they aren't terrified enough isn't controversial.

Stupid, counter-productive and predictable? Yes. Controversial? Not so much.
 
2013-04-16 04:16:25 PM  
Dammit! I don't see anyone else doing it, so I guess I will.

I'm sorry. It was all my fault. I'm pretty sure "it" has always been my fault. I've been sitting here in Seattle for the past several years feeling complacent. No, actually being complacent. All those bad things that have been happening to people who have been going around living their lives in a state of pants-shiating fear -- those things are all my fault. I'm sorry. My complacency led to all manner of bad stuff. Really, I'm sorry.

Starting today I changing my life. I promise to get my 'fear' level up to high and do my best to keep it there. I'm pretty sure that will finally stop bad things from happening.

Again, I'm sorry.
 
2013-04-16 04:16:30 PM  

vernonFL: You know who else was complacent in the face of terrorism?

lh6.googleusercontent.com


Complacent?  No.  He decided to, instead of attacking the system where the best intelligence indicated the Rebels were located, target a system that had no involvement with the Rebellion, and in fact had disarmed according to the mandates passed by the Galactic Senate.  I'm convinced Tarkin was at some point slighted by Bail Organa; perhaps he was convinced Organa was behind an assassination attempt targeting his father, H.Wilhuff Tarkin.  This is the most likely reason behind his vendetta with Alderaan.
 
2013-04-16 04:17:24 PM  
FTFA:  And so we are newly reminded that serious threats to our way of life remain. And today again we recommit ourselves to the fight against terrorism at home and abroad.

Hmm.

Total deaths from terrorism in US history: ~5,000.
Average deaths per year from auto accidents in the last ten years: ~39,000.

Tell me again how our way if life is threatened and why we should be living in terror?

Oh, right.  Fear mongering for political gain.  Got it.

/Take your fear-based political strategy and farking shove it into your dark smelly orifices.
//All of them.
 
2013-04-16 04:17:48 PM  
If only McConnell was in some sort of position of power where he could do things like pass legislation that would make have this country spend more on important matters like this...

...Oh wait what he is?

...What he cut those fund going to those actual programs?

Asked if the cuts would make the country more susceptible to acts of terrorism, Napolitano said: "It's always a threat. We do what we can to minimize the risk, but the sequester makes it awfully, awfully tough."
 
2013-04-16 04:18:48 PM  
ain't no doubt about it, Mitch is a biatch.
 
2013-04-16 04:19:39 PM  

Aarontology: FEAR. FEAR. FEAR. FEAR. FEAR. FEAR. FEAR. FEAR. FEAR.



Works Works Works Works Works Works Works Works Works Works Works Works
 
2013-04-16 04:20:35 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: I'm more frightened of Republicans than terrorists or even the random nutjob.

See, Republicans have the power to destroy us all, and want to use that power to destroy us all if we don't bow to their whims. Terrorists and random nutjobs? They only pop up occasionally, and their bodycount is generally much lower.



the real threat to this Nation and what's left of its Democracy will come from within, not without.
 
2013-04-16 04:20:43 PM  

Trayal: Total deaths from terrorism in US history: ~5,000.
Average deaths per year from auto accidents in the last ten years: ~39,000.


US Gun related deaths year 2000 = 75,000
 
2013-04-16 04:21:29 PM  

SkinnyHead: coeyagi: SkinnyHead: There's nothing controversial about warning people against complacency when it comes to terrorism.   Unless you happen to be a big fan of complacency.

Except that is a completely transparent attempt at ginning up fear so that you will vote GOP and Big Government [Depart of Defense] and line the pockets further of defense contractors, but I guess in the post WWII era that isn't controversial, that is just the same happy bullsh*t we live with every day, much like oxygen poaching Fark posters who force us to respond to their retardation.

The actual reason why libs are so offended by talk about complacency is that they see it as an attack on their complacent president.


Please hold for "diplomacy", arriving at Gate+++CARRIER GROUP FOUND+++

[obama-drone-incoming-diplomacy.jpg]

// why could I not find that pic?
 
2013-04-16 04:21:43 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: If the good guys had bombs then they could have stopped the bad guys with bombs, with bombs.



good bombs always defeat bad bombs.
 
2013-04-16 04:21:50 PM  
This is just him beginning to set the stage for another PATRIOT act.  He's not blaming victims, he's using a bad situation to allow the federal government to seize more power and become even more restrictive.
 
2013-04-16 04:22:58 PM  
Biggest proof of complacency: Kentuckians keeping this shiatstain employed.
 
2013-04-16 04:23:12 PM  

SkinnyHead: There's nothing controversial about warning people against complacency when it comes to terrorism.   Unless you happen to be a big fan of complacency.


We get complacent about alt trolls, and then they pop up again.
 
2013-04-16 04:23:14 PM  
Not turtley enough for the turtle club.
 
2013-04-16 04:23:15 PM  
I didn't see it as blaming the victims so much as the usual assumption that terrorists are never our fellow (white) Americans.
 
2013-04-16 04:23:15 PM  
1) He doesn't appear to be blaming anyone, just mentioning something (complacency) that he observed but didn't necessarily cause anything.
2) He doesn't even MENTION the victims.
3) Submitter is a troll.
 
2013-04-16 04:23:39 PM  
The Only thing we have to Fear,
is the GOP itself.

--FDR
 
2013-04-16 04:23:47 PM  
I wonder if Senator McConnell has any suggestions for how to attend a marathon in a non-complacent fashion.
 
2013-04-16 04:23:50 PM  
Dear Mitch,
Eat a cock you desiccated pile of old turkey shiat!
Hurry up and die out. You are not part of my America any longer.
 
2013-04-16 04:24:07 PM  

JolobinSmokin: Somacandra: ASSHOLE: On 9/11 we forever disabused of the notion that attacks, like the one that rocked Boston yesterday, only happen on the field of battle or in distant countries.

[i.imgur.com image 413x333] [i.imgur.com image 408x599]

fark YOU MITCH MCCONNELL.
SERIOUSLY.
fark YOU AND ALL YOU STAND FOR
YOU INCREDIBLE ASSHOLE


/OKIE

I was in OKC that day on a field trip.  We had just left downtown OKC and were heading back to Sequoyah county were I am from and had made it to Shawnee when we heard the news, don't even remember what we were there for at the time.

Fark you Mitch McConnel from another

/OKIE


Also could have worked:


websites.wnc.edu

csb:
my wife and I were on Oahu for our honeymoon and took a day trip to visit pearl harbor. While we were on the Arizona Memorial one of the survivors entered with the group behind ours. The staff called the place to attention and there was a huge round of applause.

It's tough to put into words how we felt that day. It was sobering. It was terrifying. It was beautiful. Everything that happened that day was recorded down to the minute. To this day I get chills thinking about that experience.
 
2013-04-16 04:26:00 PM  
"Also, Ashley Judd was behind it all. Her hate for turtles knows no bounds!"
 
2013-04-16 04:26:11 PM  
I understand the fark meme to make the headline say something different than what was actually said but really subby?

He didn't blame the victims.

Subby is a grade "A" asshole.
 
2013-04-16 04:26:30 PM  
Sure, after all we have forced our government to end all the post 9/11 security stuff, TSA/air marshals, attacks on foreign soil, patriot act, warrantless wiretapping, not going 5 minutes without giving each other hand jobs about how much we love America and our minature flag pins.


Maybe if the Republicans weren't so soft on terror that Obama would have been freerer with his use of drone attacks!
/sarcasm
//if the shoe were on the other foot I'm sure we would be hearing these statements
 
2013-04-16 04:27:06 PM  

Cletus C.: That's some pretty sleazy politicizing by good ol' ThinkProgress right there, folks.


You presume sleaze is a variable that can't be canceled out. In this case, McConnell easily cancels out any analysis his phrasing invokes, leaving the balance negative and ball firmly in his court.

ThinkProgress would have to photoshop  McConnell's head on to #8 to even begin to get the terms to balance (dont forget McConnell's multiplier for being an actual "representative" of.. well.. someone. Easy rookie mistake)

/science, it works, biatches.
 
2013-04-16 04:27:16 PM  
If I wanted to see society grind to a pants-wetting halt every time someone leaves an unattended bag in public I'll go to London.
 
2013-04-16 04:27:29 PM  
On the one hand, this is a strangely phrased variation of the "eternal vigilance is the price of liberty" shtick. And I kind of agree with it in an abstract way. On the other hand, though, given that our country has continually upped our law enforcement efforts non-stop since 9/11 (though not every step taken was equal in size or magnitude nor at regular time intervals) it is hard to imagine he is talking about anyone except the average American citizen here. And, frankly, the vast majority of us are more worried about our day-to-day affairs like paying bills, getting the kids to school on time, and keeping a job (or landing a job, if you're unemployed). We have enough very real, very immediate concerns to focus our attentions on that asking people or expecting them to maintain an incredibly heightened awareness towards the incredibly small (and increasingly diminishing) possibility of a particular type of concern - no matter how severe it is - is not only unreasonable, but physically and psychologically very dangerous to do (i.e. heightened awareness = more stress = more health problems, including fatigue which affects the capacity to maintain vigilance, etc. etc.). In all honesty, if we're going to up our vigilance it should be for more mundane crimes like theft, assault, property damage, or fraud, as they happen all the time. Acts of terror are so infrequent and do not warrant this kind of shaming of the general public.
 
2013-04-16 04:27:50 PM  

Dr Dreidel: SkinnyHead: coeyagi: SkinnyHead: There's nothing controversial about warning people against complacency when it comes to terrorism.   Unless you happen to be a big fan of complacency.

Except that is a completely transparent attempt at ginning up fear so that you will vote GOP and Big Government [Depart of Defense] and line the pockets further of defense contractors, but I guess in the post WWII era that isn't controversial, that is just the same happy bullsh*t we live with every day, much like oxygen poaching Fark posters who force us to respond to their retardation.

The actual reason why libs are so offended by talk about complacency is that they see it as an attack on their complacent president.

Please hold for "diplomacy", arriving at Gate+++CARRIER GROUP FOUND+++

[obama-drone-incoming-diplomacy.jpg]

// why could I not find that pic?


Authoritarian Warmonger Scary Drone President Obama Day is  Monday. Today is  Tuesday. Today is Complacent Do-Nothing Lame Duck President Obama Day. Do I need to resend the schedule?
 
2013-04-16 04:28:10 PM  

Corvus: US Gun related deaths year 2000 = 75,000


Well played.

Of course, any number of other causes of death can be used to make the same point; I simply pulled out the first one that came to mind.
 
2013-04-16 04:28:32 PM  
he should be ashamed of himself for blaming the victims.
 
2013-04-16 04:28:36 PM  
What the hell?  I mean, really?  What IS he talking about here?  It's nothing but insulting and fear mongering.  What a cock.
 
2013-04-16 04:28:38 PM  

Aarontology: FEAR. FEAR. FEAR. FEAR. FEAR. FEAR. FEAR. FEAR. FEAR.


Fear was an awesome f'ing game.  Shame the sequels kept going down in quality.
 
2013-04-16 04:28:43 PM  

rufus-t-firefly: SkinnyHead: There's nothing controversial about warning people against complacency when it comes to terrorism.   Unless you happen to be a big fan of complacency.

We get complacent about alt trolls, and then they pop up again.


if you didn't quote him, i wouldn't have to know.

/brought to you by the non-profit jerk-less foundation
 
2013-04-16 04:28:59 PM  

SkinnyHead: coeyagi: SkinnyHead: There's nothing controversial about warning people against complacency when it comes to terrorism.   Unless you happen to be a big fan of complacency.

Except that is a completely transparent attempt at ginning up fear so that you will vote GOP and Big Government [Depart of Defense] and line the pockets further of defense contractors, but I guess in the post WWII era that isn't controversial, that is just the same happy bullsh*t we live with every day, much like oxygen poaching Fark posters who force us to respond to their retardation.

The actual reason why libs are so offended by talk about complacency is that they see it as an attack on their complacent president.


Excellent troll post.  You kept it brief and included the latest talking points while making it seem like supporting conspiracy theories is a perfectly valid political stance, without actually saying that you feel that way.

7.5/10
 
2013-04-16 04:29:00 PM  
Mitch McConnell is a farking piece of shiat, and the world will be better when he dies, but he isn't wrong on this.

Yes, we have gotten complacent.  That is natural.  It has been almost 12 years since the attacks, and if we were going to remain hyper vigilant and scared all the time, this country would suck more ass than it already does.

Or is it just the authorities that have gotten complacent?  One cannot expect spectators to go looking in trash cans at public events on the off chance there is a bomb in one, can one?

I don't know how much vigilance or non-complacency could have stopped yesterday's events from happening.
 
2013-04-16 04:29:45 PM  

LookForTheArrow: Cletus C.: That's some pretty sleazy politicizing by good ol' ThinkProgress right there, folks.

You presume sleaze is a variable that can't be canceled out. In this case, McConnell easily cancels out any analysis his phrasing invokes, leaving the balance negative and ball firmly in his court.

ThinkProgress would have to photoshop  McConnell's head on to #8 to even begin to get the terms to balance (dont forget McConnell's multiplier for being an actual "representative" of.. well.. someone. Easy rookie mistake)

/science, it works, biatches.


What he said was harmless and probably true. We don't think about terrorism like we used to.

Jumping on it to score political points or underscore your dislike for the man is tasteless.
 
2013-04-16 04:30:06 PM  
bobmccarty.com
 
2013-04-16 04:30:09 PM  
encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
 
2013-04-16 04:30:26 PM  

SkinnyHead: coeyagi: SkinnyHead: There's nothing controversial about warning people against complacency when it comes to terrorism.   Unless you happen to be a big fan of complacency.

Except that is a completely transparent attempt at ginning up fear so that you will vote GOP and Big Government [Depart of Defense] and line the pockets further of defense contractors, but I guess in the post WWII era that isn't controversial, that is just the same happy bullsh*t we live with every day, much like oxygen poaching Fark posters who force us to respond to their retardation.

The actual reason why libs are so offended by talk about complacency is that they see it as an attack on their complacent president.


The attack is on reason and rational thinking, not some conservative boogeyman.
 
2013-04-16 04:31:11 PM  
Obamacare == Complacency!

We must repeal Complacency!!1!
 
2013-04-16 04:31:14 PM  
Headline: "he actually blames the victims"


TFA: It's unclear exactly who McConnell is saying has become complacent regarding terrorism.


TFA again:If he's referring to the U.S. government, intelligence and military officials have thwarted a number of attacks on the United States since 9/11. And the Los Angeles Times reported on Monday that U.S. counterterrorism efforts have all but wiped out the al-Qaed network founded by Osama bin Laden.


It's wrong to say the US government has been complacent because it's actually been pretty effective at combating Al Qaeda and busting terrorist plots. OK then.
 
2013-04-16 04:31:50 PM  
Cletus C.: LookForTheArrow: Cletus C.: That's some pretty sleazy politicizing by good ol' ThinkProgress right there, folks.

You presume sleaze is a variable that can't be canceled out. In this case, McConnell easily cancels out any analysis his phrasing invokes, leaving the balance negative and ball firmly in his court.

ThinkProgress would have to photoshop  McConnell's head on to #8 to even begin to get the terms to balance (dont forget McConnell's multiplier for being an actual "representative" of.. well.. someone. Easy rookie mistake)

/science, it works, biatches.


What he said was harmless and probably true. We don't think about terrorism like we used to.

Jumping on it to score political points or underscore your dislike for the man is tasteless.


"probably true" is enough reason for this guy to run an ad for the military industrial complex? I didn't even GET to that modifier, you're talking asymptotic!
 
2013-04-16 04:32:52 PM  
bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Austin_suicide_attack

The 2010 Austin suicide attack occurred on 18 February 2010, when Andrew Joseph Stack III, flying his Piper Dakota, killing himself and Thirteen others were injured, two seriously...


www.latimes.com
lobablanca.com
 
2013-04-16 04:33:39 PM  
Going about your daily business is complacency now.
 
2013-04-16 04:34:15 PM  

rufus-t-firefly: SkinnyHead: There's nothing controversial about warning people against complacency when it comes to terrorism.   Unless you happen to be a big fan of complacency.

We get complacent about alt trolls, and then they pop up again.


i48.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-16 04:34:28 PM  

quatchi: When the entire point to terrorism is to make people afraid then... yeah, standing there telling people they aren't terrified enough isn't controversial.


How is deliberately trying to accomplish the terrorist's specific goal, not controversial?
 
2013-04-16 04:35:44 PM  
Punching his face is now a patriotic act.
 
2013-04-16 04:37:37 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-04-16 04:39:19 PM  

Wadded Beef: SkinnyHead: coeyagi: SkinnyHead: There's nothing controversial about warning people against complacency when it comes to terrorism.   Unless you happen to be a big fan of complacency.

Except that is a completely transparent attempt at ginning up fear so that you will vote GOP and Big Government [Depart of Defense] and line the pockets further of defense contractors, but I guess in the post WWII era that isn't controversial, that is just the same happy bullsh*t we live with every day, much like oxygen poaching Fark posters who force us to respond to their retardation.

The actual reason why libs are so offended by talk about complacency is that they see it as an attack on their complacent president.

The attack is on reason and rational thinking, not some conservative boogeyman.


Well, I looked up "complacent" in the dictionary:  It means: "pleased, especially with oneself or one's merits, advantages, situation, etc., often without awareness of some potential danger or defect; self-satisfied."  The only thing missing was a picture of Obama.
 
2013-04-16 04:42:16 PM  

weltallica: [bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com image 512x341]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Austin_suicide_attack

The 2010 Austin suicide attack occurred on 18 February 2010, when Andrew Joseph Stack III, flying his Piper Dakota, killing himself and Thirteen others were injured, two seriously...


[www.latimes.com image 600x400]
[lobablanca.com image 256x400]



In the suicide note, he begins by expressing displeasure with the government, the bailout of financial institutions, politicians, the conglomerate companies of General Motors, Enron and Arthur Andersen, unions, drug and health care insurance companies, and the Catholic Church.[32] He then describes his life as an engineer; including his meeting with a poor widow who never got the pension benefits she was promised, the effect of the Section 1706 of Tax Reform Act of 1986 on independent contractor engineers, the September 11 attacks airline bailouts that only benefited the airlines but not the suffering engineers and how a CPA he hired seemed to side with the government to take extra tax money from him. His suicide note included criticism of the Federal Aviation Administration, the George W. Bush administration, and a call for violent revolt.

Hates GWB and the Catholic Church, cites Marx, wants revolt, and is critical of the bailouts. That sounds a hell of a lot more like OWS than the Tea Party.
 
2013-04-16 04:42:42 PM  

SkinnyHead: Well, I looked up "complacent" in the dictionary:  It means: "pleased, especially with oneself or one's merits, advantages, situation, etc., often without awareness of some potential danger or defect; self-satisfied."  The only thing missing was a picture of Obama.


*jerking motion*
 
2013-04-16 04:43:11 PM  

SkinnyHead: Well, I looked up "complacent" in the dictionary:  It means: "pleased, especially with oneself or one's merits, advantages, situation, etc., often without awareness of some potential danger or defect; self-satisfied."  The only thing missing was a picture of Obama.


Bullshat. It was also missing a picture of a crying eagle in front of an American flag.
 
2013-04-16 04:44:41 PM  

SkinnyHead: Well, I looked up "complacent" in the dictionary: It means: "pleased, especially with oneself or one's merits, advantages, situation, etc., often without awareness of some potential danger or defect; self-satisfied." The only thing missing was a picture of Obama.


Deep thoughts...
 
2013-04-16 04:44:55 PM  

Cletus C.: What he said was harmless and probably true. We don't think about terrorism like we used to.


Because by and large foreign terrorism was never a major threat to Americans, even after 9/11. Looking over the Wikipedia entry, the vast majority of attacks on American soil have been carried out by Americans for other reasons than "Death to the West!" The Earth Liberation Front is on there a lot. Anti-abortionists have a bunch. Neo-nazis make a few appearances. There are a lot of angry white men pulling a Falling Down and gunning down liberals, sending mail bombs, and generally causing pipe bomb based trouble. The crazy, white terrorists outnumber the occurrences of brown people driving SUVs into pedestrians to avenge Muslim deaths by a significant degree.

You're more likely to be murdered by a crazy white person because of your Obama bumper sticker than because somebody abroad hates your freedom. If we were ever taking terrorism seriously in the first place, we would've been profiling old, white conservatives. The esteemed Senator McConnell would need an anal probe to get into his office on the Hill.
 
2013-04-16 04:45:51 PM  
Easy for a guy with natural body armor to say.
 
2013-04-16 04:46:08 PM  

UNC_Samurai: rufus-t-firefly: SkinnyHead: There's nothing controversial about warning people against complacency when it comes to terrorism.   Unless you happen to be a big fan of complacency.

We get complacent about alt trolls, and then they pop up again.

[i48.photobucket.com image 668x496]


img218.imageshack.us
 
2013-04-16 04:46:40 PM  

vernonFL: Its such a shame, because before he said this, I had so much respect for Mitch McConnell, one of our greatest Senators! How could someone so usually cogent and kind say something so terrible?

Its really upsetting.


LOL.

Rule:  Only the Rs care about security.  Ls are pussies/treehuggers/welfare queens/those people/ that eat from the public trough and suck away the vitality and goodness of America from 'real' Americans.

/bootstraps people, bootstraps
 
2013-04-16 04:46:46 PM  
Probably has a sad over the torture report that came out.
 
2013-04-16 04:47:27 PM  
Also, he had to go to the dictionary when he saw the word "complacent."  Almost uncomfortably meta.
 
2013-04-16 04:47:43 PM  

impaler: quatchi: When the entire point to terrorism is to make people afraid then... yeah, standing there telling people they aren't terrified enough isn't controversial.

How is deliberately trying to accomplish the terrorist's specific goal, not controversial?


Because it's Mitch McConnell saying it and it's just a regurgitation of previous derp.

"GOP reflexive fear-mongering isn't so much controversial as it is expected" would have been a better way of putting that.
 
2013-04-16 04:48:28 PM  

weltallica: [bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com image 512x341]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Austin_suicide_attack

The 2010 Austin suicide attack occurred on 18 February 2010, when Andrew Joseph Stack III, flying his Piper Dakota, killing himself and Thirteen others were injured, two seriously...


[www.latimes.com image 600x400]
[lobablanca.com image 256x400]


what's the point you're going for here?
 
2013-04-16 04:51:21 PM  
So Mitch,  if it is proven the Boston bombing was due to a domestic militant right wing group, would you favor cracking down on domestic militant right wing groups?  Wouldn't it be complacent not to?
 
2013-04-16 04:51:38 PM  

Mrbogey: weltallica: [bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com image 512x341]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Austin_suicide_attack

The 2010 Austin suicide attack occurred on 18 February 2010, when Andrew Joseph Stack III, flying his Piper Dakota, killing himself and Thirteen others were injured, two seriously...


[www.latimes.com image 600x400]
[lobablanca.com image 256x400]


In the suicide note, he begins by expressing displeasure with the government, the bailout of financial institutions, politicians, the conglomerate companies of General Motors, Enron and Arthur Andersen, unions, drug and health care insurance companies, and the Catholic Church.[32] He then describes his life as an engineer; including his meeting with a poor widow who never got the pension benefits she was promised, the effect of the Section 1706 of Tax Reform Act of 1986 on independent contractor engineers, the September 11 attacks airline bailouts that only benefited the airlines but not the suffering engineers and how a CPA he hired seemed to side with the government to take extra tax money from him. His suicide note included criticism of the Federal Aviation Administration, the George W. Bush administration, and a call for violent revolt.

Hates GWB and the Catholic Church, cites Marx, wants revolt, and is critical of the bailouts. That sounds a hell of a lot more like OWS than the Tea Party.


He refers to capitalism as "From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed.", talks about the wealthy robbing the middle class, commiserates with a widow who lost her husband's pension to greedy and incompetent management...

Ignore all that. He also was angry with the IRS.
 
2013-04-16 04:52:14 PM  

skullkrusher: weltallica: [bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com image 512x341]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Austin_suicide_attack

The 2010 Austin suicide attack occurred on 18 February 2010, when Andrew Joseph Stack III, flying his Piper Dakota, killing himself and Thirteen others were injured, two seriously...


[www.latimes.com image 600x400]
[lobablanca.com image 256x400]

what's the point you're going for here?


I think he's implying that this is the work of teabaggers.  I think it's domestic--on Patriots Day, in Boston, recognizing the Battle of lexington and Concord (which happened on the 19th)--but not teabaggers.  More like white supremacists. Yeah, yeah, i know, but I mean the real kind the head stomping, meth dealing, prison murder kind.
 
2013-04-16 04:53:03 PM  
Civilians should of course be prepared for emergencies and perhaps have some relevant training, but beyond that, it's a good thing not to fear the turrists.

It's really sad that I now worry more about the idiotic overreactions to terrorist attacks than the attacks themselves.
 
2013-04-16 04:53:57 PM  

skullkrusher: He refers to capitalism as "From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed.", talks about the wealthy robbing the middle class, commiserates with a widow who lost her husband's pension to greedy and incompetent management...

Ignore all that. He also was angry with the IRS.


And unions.  But who cares?  That guy was pissed off about everything and completely unhinged.  Totally different. This sh*t was organized.
 
2013-04-16 04:54:32 PM  

vernonFL: vernonFL: SkinnyHead: There's nothing controversial about warning people against complacency when it comes to terrorism.   Unless you happen to be a big fan of complacency.

You know who else was complacent in the face of terrorism?


Pardon me, my B'more, Oriole orange farkied friend, but i have skinny on ignore-and I'd like to say something to said poster...

STOP IT CHIPPY, AND SHAME ON YOU YOU ATTENTION WHORE.
I mean, ok, you win at being nearly the biggest dick on Fark. Note I said being, not having.

Ok, thanks.

Also, VernonFL, this follow up picture to your own post is golden. Thanks for meny lulzez.
 
2013-04-16 04:55:58 PM  

Magorn: Free men neither live, nor die, on thier knees,  asshole


Better to die on your feet than live in a shell.
 
2013-04-16 04:56:05 PM  

thamike: skullkrusher: He refers to capitalism as "From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed.", talks about the wealthy robbing the middle class, commiserates with a widow who lost her husband's pension to greedy and incompetent management...

Ignore all that. He also was angry with the IRS.

And unions.  But who cares?  That guy was pissed off about everything and completely unhinged.  Totally different. This sh*t was organized.


ask the dumbass who referenced Stack
 
2013-04-16 04:56:33 PM  
i33.tinypic.com
 
2013-04-16 04:57:03 PM  

thamike: UNC_Samurai: rufus-t-firefly: SkinnyHead: There's nothing controversial about warning people against complacency when it comes to terrorism.   Unless you happen to be a big fan of complacency.

We get complacent about alt trolls, and then they pop up again.

[i48.photobucket.com image 668x496]

[img218.imageshack.us image 850x484]


I like that pic because it's one of the guys I most respect on FARK owning one guy who I think is one of the biggest idiot on FARK.
 
2013-04-16 04:57:53 PM  
Thank you KY for making Texas seem a slightly more sane every year that you keep this farking idiot in office.  Thank god we can at least point at Kentucky and proudly claim "Hey! at least were not as farked up as Kentucky".  Even Ashly Judd has had enough of Kentucky.
 
2013-04-16 04:59:48 PM  

SkinnyHead: Well, I looked up "complacent" in the dictionary:  It means: "pleased, especially with oneself or one's merits, advantages, situation, etc., often without awareness of some potential danger or defect; self-satisfied."  The only thing missing was a picture of Obama.

George W. Bush actively ignoring a brief entitled "Bin Laden Determined To Strike In U.S."

FTFY.

Or does that definition of "complacent" not work for you?
 
2013-04-16 05:00:17 PM  
We aren't all pants shiatting cowards, McConnell, you asshole.
 
2013-04-16 05:00:26 PM  
The Republican leadership is seeing the chance to save bad policy and demographic obstacles through fear and the "security" issue. Like they did before.

I guess we'll see if we've learned anything.
 
2013-04-16 05:00:57 PM  
Oh calm down, subby. He did no such thing. Show me where he said "That 8 year old was totally asking for it. If he had only lived in paranoia of terrorism, he would have stayed home."
 
2013-04-16 05:03:03 PM  

thamike: I think he's implying that this is the work of teabaggers. I think it's domestic--on Patriots Day, in Boston, recognizing the Battle of lexington and Concord (which happened on the 19th)--but not teabaggers. More like white supremacists. Yeah, yeah, i know, but I mean the real kind the head stomping, meth dealing, prison murder kind.


But if it were white supremacists, wouldn't they want to blow up the first runners across the finish line?
 
2013-04-16 05:03:42 PM  

thamike: skullkrusher: weltallica: [bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com image 512x341]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Austin_suicide_attack

The 2010 Austin suicide attack occurred on 18 February 2010, when Andrew Joseph Stack III, flying his Piper Dakota, killing himself and Thirteen others were injured, two seriously...


[www.latimes.com image 600x400]
[lobablanca.com image 256x400]

what's the point you're going for here?

I think he's implying that this is the work of teabaggers.  I think it's domestic--on Patriots Day, in Boston, recognizing the Battle of lexington and Concord (which happened on the 19th)--but not teabaggers.  More like white supremacists. Yeah, yeah, i know, but I mean the real kind the head stomping, meth dealing, prison murder kind.


personally if I had to guess I'd say domestic Islamic terrorism only because those are the sorts of "small" bomb plots that keep getting foiled down here in NY (subway, Times Square, etc). Lone wolf nutjob on jihad.

The date might be meaningful for anti-government types but I don't see how the target makes sense from a militia perspective.

In reality, we don't have farkall to go on so to pin it on anyone doesn't make any sense and is pure speculation.
 
2013-04-16 05:04:15 PM  

Somacandra: ASSHOLE: On 9/11 we forever disabused of the notion that attacks, like the one that rocked Boston yesterday, only happen on the field of battle or in distant countries.

[i.imgur.com image 413x333] [i.imgur.com image 408x599]

fark YOU MITCH MCCONNELL.
SERIOUSLY.
fark YOU AND ALL YOU STAND FOR
YOU INCREDIBLE ASSHOLE


/OKIE


Was there.  Good post.
 
2013-04-16 05:06:24 PM  
So, if he didn't blame the victims, us, like many here claim, who did he blame for the complacency?
 
2013-04-16 05:08:59 PM  

THX 1138: SkinnyHead: Well, I looked up "complacent" in the dictionary:  It means: "pleased, especially with oneself or one's merits, advantages, situation, etc., often without awareness of some potential danger or defect; self-satisfied."  The only thing missing was a picture of Obama.George W. Bush actively ignoring a brief entitled "Bin Laden Determined To Strike In U.S."

FTFY.

Or does that definition of "complacent" not work for you?


Well, like Sen. McConnell said, there was a sense of complacency that prevailed prior to September 11th.  He's saying that we shouldn't go back to that.
 
2013-04-16 05:10:19 PM  
Can we finally admit that security theater and million dollar security details for events are largely ineffective?

No?

OK, we must spend MOAR!
 
2013-04-16 05:10:40 PM  
As usual, Senator McConnell is correct said no one ever.
 
2013-04-16 05:11:46 PM  

impaler: quatchi: When the entire point to terrorism is to make people afraid then... yeah, standing there telling people they aren't terrified enough isn't controversial.

How is deliberately trying to accomplish the terrorist's specific goal, not controversial?


Warning, sarcasm detector low on energy.
 
2013-04-16 05:12:43 PM  

THX 1138: SkinnyHead: Well, I looked up "complacent" in the dictionary:  It means: "pleased, especially with oneself or one's merits, advantages, situation, etc., often without awareness of some potential danger or defect; self-satisfied."  The only thing missing was a picture of Obama.George W. Bush actively ignoring a brief entitled "Bin Laden Determined To Strike In U.S."

FTFY.

Or does that definition of "complacent" not work for you?


Hey they only received a list of "actionable items" to fight terrorism not a "plan". How in the hell are they going to do anything with that? *snark*
 
2013-04-16 05:14:18 PM  

JolobinSmokin: I was in OKC that day on a field trip. We had just left downtown OKC and were heading back to Sequoyah county were I am from and had made it to Shawnee when we heard the news, don't even remember what we were there for at the time.


I was in college working about an hour north in Stillwater--Okla State has a world-class premier Fire Protection and Industrial Safety program--all my friends who were upperclassmen were mobilized to render aid and assistance immediately that morning, while I was behind trying to comfort a friend who'd just lost his dad a hour before. I really don't need Mitch McConnell's patronizing bullshiat glossing over the Murrah attack. Life changed a helluva lot that day and hasn't been the same since. I still don't leave the house on April 19th if I can possibly help it.
 
2013-04-16 05:15:04 PM  

robbiex0r: Can we finally admit that security theater and million dollar security details for events are largely ineffective?

No?

OK, we must spend MOAR!


So you don't like the theater we have going, but spending more to do something about it is bad too. I'm not so sure laissez faire is the way to go on public safety, but it has an evolutionary flair to it which is nice.
 
2013-04-16 05:15:55 PM  

SkinnyHead: Well, like Sen. McConnell said, there was a sense of complacency that prevailed prior to September 11th.  He's saying that we shouldn't go back to that.


I'd rather go back to that than the false non-complacency we had following 9/11.

Terror alert "yellow" - (watch for suspicious toenail clippers and breast milk).
 
2013-04-16 05:17:49 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: robbiex0r: Can we finally admit that security theater and million dollar security details for events are largely ineffective?

No?

OK, we must spend MOAR!

So you don't like the theater we have going, but spending more to do something about it is bad too. I'm not so sure laissez faire is the way to go on public safety, but it has an evolutionary flair to it which is nice.


More of the same is not going to be any more effective than what we're doing now.
 
2013-04-16 05:18:03 PM  
People need to accept terrorism is a risk in life. Like dying in a car crash or being killed during a robbery. No matter how much we spend or how vigilant we are some people are going to die from terrorist attack. We shouldn't bankrupt the country trying to reach 0 terrorism since it will never happen
 
2013-04-16 05:19:10 PM  

Diogenes: And if it it turns out this was perpetrated by 'one of our own' will he stand by those words?

Sounds to me like he's strongly implying a particular responsible party.


That's what I was LOLing about. When the cops finally catch the little shiatstain, he'll biatch about abortion rights, or Jeebus or some other right-wingnut talking point.
 
2013-04-16 05:19:54 PM  

thamike: UNC_Samurai: rufus-t-firefly: SkinnyHead: There's nothing controversial about warning people against complacency when it comes to terrorism.   Unless you happen to be a big fan of complacency.

We get complacent about alt trolls, and then they pop up again.

[i48.photobucket.com image 668x496]

[img218.imageshack.us image 850x484]


Is that a wifely handjob?
 
2013-04-16 05:20:57 PM  

robbiex0r: HotWingConspiracy: robbiex0r: Can we finally admit that security theater and million dollar security details for events are largely ineffective?

No?

OK, we must spend MOAR!

So you don't like the theater we have going, but spending more to do something about it is bad too. I'm not so sure laissez faire is the way to go on public safety, but it has an evolutionary flair to it which is nice.

More of the same is not going to be any more effective than what we're doing now.


What we're doing is pretty damn effective.
 
2013-04-16 05:22:57 PM  

Boeheimian Rhapsody: my wife and I were on Oahu for our honeymoon and took a day trip to visit pearl harbor. While we were on the Arizona Memorial one of the survivors entered with the group behind ours. The staff called the place to attention and there was a huge round of applause. It's tough to put into words how we felt that day. It was sobering. It was terrifying. It was beautiful. Everything that happened that day was recorded down to the minute. To this day I get chills thinking about that experience.



Wow. I can only imagine. What a soul to come back to that place of so much premeditated death and destruction in the midst of strangers, even so many decades later. Thanks for sharing that, seriously. Whenever I visit the OKC Memorial, I have to go alone. And I wasn't even at the attack site when it happened.
 
2013-04-16 05:24:13 PM  

what_now: We aren't all pants shiatting cowards, McConnell, you asshole.


Could have fooled me, seeing how liberals have been filling their pants lately in fear that their neighbors might have an assault rifle.
 
2013-04-16 05:24:26 PM  

Stone Meadow: Diogenes: And if it it turns out this was perpetrated by 'one of our own' will he stand by those words?

Sounds to me like he's strongly implying a particular responsible party.

That's what I was LOLing about. When the cops finally catch the little shiatstain, he'll biatch about abortion rights, or Jeebus or some other right-wingnut talking point.


Or the person won't.
Interesting that you assume it is a male that did this.  Why would you assume that?
Why would you think that that the person would biatch about Jeebus?  That makes no sense.
 
2013-04-16 05:24:51 PM  
So he wants us all to retreat back into our shells? Very appropriate Turtleman
 
2013-04-16 05:26:17 PM  
Well, thank you, anonymously charitable fellow Farker for my sponsorship!

Too bad on these circumstances, though.
However, I find that if you do like Mr. Rogers said, one's faith in humanity is immediately restored.
I was amazed and inspired to see folks running right to the site of the explosion seconds after the blast. I'd like to think I'd do the same, but lucky me,, I've never been in that situation.
We just gotta take care of each other. Crazy and evil will always be around.
 
2013-04-16 05:26:29 PM  

Diogenes: See, I think the problem is looking to McConnell for comfort in the first place.

The man has all the empathy and humanity of a petrified turd.


Given the choice, I'd take the turd every time.
 
2013-04-16 05:27:16 PM  
Americans are complacent on terrorism as evidenced by a bombing that killed three. Yet, when there's a shooting every other week that kills, like at Newtown, 26, it's, "We can't do a thing about it. It's in the constitution."

Well, asshole, fark you.
 
2013-04-16 05:27:34 PM  

SkinnyHead: THX 1138: SkinnyHead: Well, I looked up "complacent" in the dictionary:  It means: "pleased, especially with oneself or one's merits, advantages, situation, etc., often without awareness of some potential danger or defect; self-satisfied."  The only thing missing was a picture of Obama.George W. Bush actively ignoring a brief entitled "Bin Laden Determined To Strike In U.S."

FTFY.

Or does that definition of "complacent" not work for you?

Well, like Sen. McConnell said, there was a sense of complacency that prevailed prior to September 11th.  He's saying that we shouldn't go back to that.


That's not the way I read it.  He said we've become complacent again, and that this tragedy resulted from that.

He's not an asshole for thinking it, he's thinking it because he's an asshole.
 
2013-04-16 05:27:39 PM  

havocmike: Enemabag Jones: please
Reading his comments, he basically said "we've become complacent again".  Is that really blaming the victims?
No, but I reserve the right to consider him a jackass for what he said.

/After all, they should have been searching backpacks at an open event to make sure their weren't terrorists there.  Or maybe control the sale of bulk ball bearings.

//Where does one buy bulk ball bearings anyway?  Isn't that a lead?

you could steal them two or three at a time from Lowe's. theoretically.


They are for sale as slingshot ammo too. Quick google search reveals 1/2" chrome steel balls cost about 5$ a pound...
Having said that they do work great for slingshot ammo.
/I bet we're all on a watch list now
 
2013-04-16 05:29:20 PM  
"It's unclear exactly who McConnell is saying has become complacent regarding terrorism."

Yeah, I wonder which black Kenyan socialist gay Muslim history's-greatest-monster ol' Mitch could possibly be referring to.
 
2013-04-16 05:30:43 PM  

SkinnyHead: what_now: We aren't all pants shiatting cowards, McConnell, you asshole.

Could have fooled me, seeing how liberals have been filling their pants lately in fear that their neighbors might have an assault rifle.



You think a lot about other dudes "filling their pants?"

NTTAWWT, elchip.
 
2013-04-16 05:30:48 PM  
 
2013-04-16 05:30:59 PM  

Diogenes: See, I think the problem is looking to McConnell for comfort in the first place.

The man has all the empathy and humanity of a petrified turd.


You're giving petrified turds a bad name by comparing them to McConnell.
 
2013-04-16 05:32:58 PM  

SkinnyHead: what_now: We aren't all pants shiatting cowards, McConnell, you asshole.

Could have fooled me, seeing how liberals have been filling their pants lately in fear that their neighbors might have an assault rifle.


I think you have us confused with conservatives.  Liberals aren't afraid, we're pissed that you cowards can't see that too many guns breed violence.
 
2013-04-16 05:33:41 PM  
If you're still a Republican in 2013 America, there's something wrong with you.
 
2013-04-16 05:35:24 PM  
Can we test McConnell's level of complacency by bombing his house? Serious, if he's such a f*cking expert on the topic, he should be totally prepared for someone shooting grenades through his kitchen window at 3am.

Not that I would suggest anyone should do grievous harm to the shiatty little man turtle just to prove a point.

I'd never suggest that.

That someone should hurt him. Badly.

No sir, I wouldn't do that.
 
2013-04-16 05:38:34 PM  

skullkrusher: thamike: skullkrusher: weltallica: [bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com image 512x341]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Austin_suicide_attack

The 2010 Austin suicide attack occurred on 18 February 2010, when Andrew Joseph Stack III, flying his Piper Dakota, killing himself and Thirteen others were injured, two seriously...


[www.latimes.com image 600x400]
[lobablanca.com image 256x400]

what's the point you're going for here?

I think he's implying that this is the work of teabaggers.  I think it's domestic--on Patriots Day, in Boston, recognizing the Battle of lexington and Concord (which happened on the 19th)--but not teabaggers.  More like white supremacists. Yeah, yeah, i know, but I mean the real kind the head stomping, meth dealing, prison murder kind.

personally if I had to guess I'd say domestic Islamic terrorism only because those are the sorts of "small" bomb plots that keep getting foiled down here in NY (subway, Times Square, etc). Lone wolf nutjob on jihad.

The date might be meaningful for anti-government types but I don't see how the target makes sense from a militia perspective.

In reality, we don't have farkall to go on so to pin it on anyone doesn't make any sense and is pure speculation.


I'm not ruling it out, but I think the time and place is too significant to ignore. I think it was a message. Add that to all the chatter about secession or armed revolt, assassinations of DAs and wardens (which may be completely unrelated).   It might be a lone wolf, but if so I think it's an American one.  If I was investigating it, I'd look at the next significant date and place in the American Revolution for clues.  Maybe start scouting Brooklyn for possible threats.  Besides, not a single jihadi group is claiming it, not even the usually-full-of-sh*t ones.  And that's odd, especially after 24 hours.

I almost want to be completely wrong about this.
 
2013-04-16 05:43:39 PM  

thamike: skullkrusher: thamike: skullkrusher: weltallica: [bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com image 512x341]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Austin_suicide_attack

The 2010 Austin suicide attack occurred on 18 February 2010, when Andrew Joseph Stack III, flying his Piper Dakota, killing himself and Thirteen others were injured, two seriously...


[www.latimes.com image 600x400]
[lobablanca.com image 256x400]

what's the point you're going for here?

I think he's implying that this is the work of teabaggers.  I think it's domestic--on Patriots Day, in Boston, recognizing the Battle of lexington and Concord (which happened on the 19th)--but not teabaggers.  More like white supremacists. Yeah, yeah, i know, but I mean the real kind the head stomping, meth dealing, prison murder kind.

personally if I had to guess I'd say domestic Islamic terrorism only because those are the sorts of "small" bomb plots that keep getting foiled down here in NY (subway, Times Square, etc). Lone wolf nutjob on jihad.

The date might be meaningful for anti-government types but I don't see how the target makes sense from a militia perspective.

In reality, we don't have farkall to go on so to pin it on anyone doesn't make any sense and is pure speculation.

I'm not ruling it out, but I think the time and place is too significant to ignore. I think it was a message. Add that to all the chatter about secession or armed revolt, assassinations of DAs and wardens (which may be completely unrelated).   It might be a lone wolf, but if so I think it's an American one.  If I was investigating it, I'd look at the next significant date and place in the American Revolution for clues.  Maybe start scouting Brooklyn for possible threats.  Besides, not a single jihadi group is claiming it, not even the usually-full-of-sh*t ones.  And that's odd, especially after 24 hours.

I almost want to be completely wrong about this.


mayhap, mayhap. In the end though, what's the difference? Terrorism is terrorism. AQ didn't claim 9/11 until 3 years later though. Maybe they were arguing in court with Mossad about the rights, I dunno.

Wouldn't Independence Day make more sense from a symbolic perspective? Hitting a government building rather than a marathon route? I dunno, I guess it isn't supposed to make sense because some farkwit (homegrown militia type, resident jihadi, foreign something or other) blew up a bunch of innocent people.
 
2013-04-16 05:44:24 PM  

jcooli09: SkinnyHead: what_now: We aren't all pants shiatting cowards, McConnell, you asshole.

Could have fooled me, seeing how liberals have been filling their pants lately in fear that their neighbors might have an assault rifle.

I think you have us confused with conservatives.  Liberals aren't afraid, we're pissed that you cowards can't see that too many guns breed violence.


Conservatives know that guns enable violence, they just think that a stack of dead children every now and then is just the cost of doing business in a free country.

Things like Newton and Columbine are acceptable to conservatives, or at least moreso than any common sense actions we could take to prevent such tragedies.
 
2013-04-16 05:45:46 PM  

Kibbler: "It's unclear exactly who McConnell is saying has become complacent regarding terrorism."

Yeah, I wonder which black Kenyan socialist gay Muslim history's-greatest-monster ol' Mitch could possibly be referring to.


He didn't go there.

You did. Congratulations.
 
2013-04-16 05:46:11 PM  

Corvus: Trayal: Total deaths from terrorism in US history: ~5,000.
Average deaths per year from auto accidents in the last ten years: ~39,000.

US Gun related deaths year 2000 = 75,000


Deaths from heart disease in 2011 = 597,689

Therefore only Michelle Obama is safeguarding America and Mitch McConnell has to dress up like one of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and work through the entire Sweatin' to the Oldies series.
 
2013-04-16 05:47:46 PM  

eggrolls: Can we test McConnell's level of complacency by bombing his house? Serious, if he's such a f*cking expert on the topic, he should be totally prepared for someone shooting grenades through his kitchen window at 3am.

Not that I would suggest anyone should do grievous harm to the shiatty little man turtle just to prove a point.

I'd never suggest that.

That someone should hurt him. Badly.

No sir, I wouldn't do that.


I believe the point was that such thinking and action most often comes from the right. You are not helping your cause.
 
2013-04-16 05:49:33 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Stone Meadow: Diogenes: And if it it turns out this was perpetrated by 'one of our own' will he stand by those words?

Sounds to me like he's strongly implying a particular responsible party.

That's what I was LOLing about. When the cops finally catch the little shiatstain, he'll biatch about abortion rights, or Jeebus or some other right-wingnut talking point.

Or the person won't.
Interesting that you assume it is a male that did this.  Why would you assume that?
Why would you think that that the person would biatch about Jeebus?  That makes no sense.


You know, I never really paid much attention to others when they mocked you on Fark for being too literal, for lacking a capacity for lateral thinking and for asking inane chatbot-style questions.

I guess they were right.
 
2013-04-16 05:50:18 PM  

jcooli09: SkinnyHead: what_now: We aren't all pants shiatting cowards, McConnell, you asshole.

Could have fooled me, seeing how liberals have been filling their pants lately in fear that their neighbors might have an assault rifle.

I think you have us confused with conservatives.  Liberals aren't afraid, we're pissed that you cowards can't see that too many guns breed violence.


Don't give me that.  You're afraid of pistol grips on rifles because they make rifles look scary.
 
2013-04-16 05:50:22 PM  

SkinnyHead: Wadded Beef: SkinnyHead: coeyagi: SkinnyHead: There's nothing controversial about warning people against complacency when it comes to terrorism.   Unless you happen to be a big fan of complacency.

Except that is a completely transparent attempt at ginning up fear so that you will vote GOP and Big Government [Depart of Defense] and line the pockets further of defense contractors, but I guess in the post WWII era that isn't controversial, that is just the same happy bullsh*t we live with every day, much like oxygen poaching Fark posters who force us to respond to their retardation.

The actual reason why libs are so offended by talk about complacency is that they see it as an attack on their complacent president.

The attack is on reason and rational thinking, not some conservative boogeyman.

Well, I looked up "complacent" in the dictionary:  It means: "pleased, especially with oneself or one's merits, advantages, situation, etc., often without awareness of some potential danger or defect; self-satisfied."  The only thing missing was a picture of Obama.


I was flipping through the dictionary to check out "complacent" myself when your post inspired me to stop on "comedy" on the previous page.
 
2013-04-16 05:50:34 PM  

jcooli09: you cowards can't see that too many guns breed violence.


+1 funny.

Now we know where violence comes from:  pregnant guns.
 
2013-04-16 05:51:24 PM  

skullkrusher: Wouldn't Independence Day make more sense from a symbolic perspective? Hitting a government building rather than a marathon route?


The marathon happens on Patriots Day which commemorates the Battles of Lexington and Concord, which kicked off the American Revolution with the "shot heard 'round the world."  The whole thing is maximum population density, especially at the finish line, and especially after the race has already been won by the athletes and the straggling townsfolk are all bunched together in the back of the line, basically walking.  Also, there is maximum media exposure.

What part of that whole scenario doesn't make sense?
 
2013-04-16 05:53:07 PM  

Enemabag Jones: //Where does one buy bulk ball bearings anyway? Isn't that a lead?


Common item. Bike shops buy them in bulk. Looking online I see them at industrial suppliers.

Interesting idea as a possible lead. I wonder how many people bought large quanties from Grainger in the past 6 months. And the exact size would be known.
 
2013-04-16 05:55:21 PM  

SkinnyHead: jcooli09: SkinnyHead: what_now: We aren't all pants shiatting cowards, McConnell, you asshole.

Could have fooled me, seeing how liberals have been filling their pants lately in fear that their neighbors might have an assault rifle.

I think you have us confused with conservatives.  Liberals aren't afraid, we're pissed that you cowards can't see that too many guns breed violence.

Don't give me that.  You're afraid of pistol grips on rifles because they make rifles look scary.


Bullshiat.  I'm opposed to tools which are primarily designed to kill humans, and in favor of making it more difficult to purchase weapons in order to reduce the total number of weapons over time.
 
2013-04-16 05:55:41 PM  

udhq: Conservatives know that guns enable violence, they just think that a stack of dead children every now and then is just the cost of doing business in a free country.

Things like Newton and Columbine are acceptable to conservatives, or at least moreso than any common sense actions we could take to prevent such tragedies.


2/10 too obvious
 
2013-04-16 05:57:36 PM  

the_dude_abides: udhq: Conservatives know that guns enable violence, they just think that a stack of dead children every now and then is just the cost of doing business in a free country.

Things like Newton and Columbine are acceptable to conservatives, or at least moreso than any common sense actions we could take to prevent such tragedies.

2/10 too obvious


Do you dispute it?
 
2013-04-16 05:58:51 PM  
The appropriate response is to invade a country that had nothing to do with it.  Otherwise we're being complacent.

/Brought to you by KBR
 
2013-04-16 05:59:28 PM  
Sounds like "She was asking to be raped by wearin' that purty dress", to me.
 
2013-04-16 05:59:45 PM  

odinsposse: Corvus: Trayal: Total deaths from terrorism in US history: ~5,000.
Average deaths per year from auto accidents in the last ten years: ~39,000.

US Gun related deaths year 2000 = 75,000

Deaths from heart disease in 2011 = 597,689

Therefore only Michelle Obama is safeguarding America and Mitch McConnell has to dress up like one of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and work through the entire Sweatin' to the Oldies series.


Or, as Mitch calls it, Tuesday Afternoon.
 
2013-04-16 06:01:59 PM  

thamike: skullkrusher: Wouldn't Independence Day make more sense from a symbolic perspective? Hitting a government building rather than a marathon route?

The marathon happens on Patriots Day which commemorates the Battles of Lexington and Concord, which kicked off the American Revolution with the "shot heard 'round the world."  The whole thing is maximum population density, especially at the finish line, and especially after the race has already been won by the athletes and the straggling townsfolk are all bunched together in the back of the line, basically walking.  Also, there is maximum media exposure.

What part of that whole scenario doesn't make sense?


I guess I don't get the "inflict as many civilian casualties as possible" angle if this were done by a guy looking to start a 2nd revolution. McVeigh wanted many casualties to make a big impact but he specifically wanted to limit non-government employee casualties and targeted the Murrah Building because it housed a number of government agencies. Other right wing terror attacks have targeted specific groups (gays, blacks, their "sympathizers", etc) but it seems pretty uncommon to just try to randomly kill a bunch of American civilians with no real symbolic target attached to it. Even Rudolph hit the Atlanta games because he thought the Olympics were socialist.

For all we know the only significance of the date is that that's the date of the marathon and the attackers thought the finish line would make a good target.
 
2013-04-16 06:02:26 PM  

Bisu: 1) He doesn't appear to be blaming anyone, just mentioning something (complacency) that he observed but didn't necessarily cause anything.
2) He doesn't even MENTION the victims.
3) Submitter is a troll.


It must be sorry to be you.
 
2013-04-16 06:03:34 PM  

jcooli09: the_dude_abides: udhq: Conservatives know that guns enable violence, they just think that a stack of dead children every now and then is just the cost of doing business in a free country.

Things like Newton and Columbine are acceptable to conservatives, or at least moreso than any common sense actions we could take to prevent such tragedies.

2/10 too obvious

Do you dispute it?


I do. And I believe strongly in gun control. To say the slaughter of children is acceptable to conservatives is delusional. Such tragedies are only "aceeptable" to the deepest-do-do of psychopaths. Your political tunnel vision may put conservatives in that camp, but that's your personal issue. One you should probably have examined.
 
2013-04-16 06:04:25 PM  
Civilian complacency? I'm sorry that for years following 9/11 we kept hearing about terror alert fuchsia and nothing ever happened. It's almost as if those random terror alerts were just to keep us on edge and willing to give up more freedoms.
 
2013-04-16 06:05:15 PM  

carpbrain: Bisu: 1) He doesn't appear to be blaming anyone, just mentioning something (complacency) that he observed but didn't necessarily cause anything.
2) He doesn't even MENTION the victims.
3) Submitter is a troll.

It must be sorry to be you.


umm.. he's right. Subby is a troll.
 
2013-04-16 06:05:48 PM  
Typical liberal subby. McConnell didn't say "victims" were complacent. He said "all Americans" have become complacent. You know why he said that? Because we have become complacent. Again. Just like I knew we would.
 
2013-04-16 06:07:43 PM  
There is some truly crazy shiat flying from the left in this thread. Thinking liberals should be calling people out for this crap. Huh?
 
2013-04-16 06:09:31 PM  

TerminalEchoes: Typical liberal subby. McConnell didn't say "victims" were complacent. He said "all Americans" have become complacent. You know why he said that? Because we have become complacent. Again. Just like I knew we would.


of course we have. Times of peace on the homefront do that. What he's trying to do is ensure that terrorism stays at the forefront because of the belief that the American people think the GOP is better suited to deal with terrorist threats.
Cynical and underhanded but nowhere does he blame the victims for the attack despite subby and "Think" Progress' attempts. Why critiquing an easily assailable opinion is so often replaced by dishonest handwaving to make the bad seem worse, I'll never know.
Oh wait, I know already. shiat.
 
2013-04-16 06:10:27 PM  
The fellow on the bottom looking into what he thinks life is like is Mitch McConnell.
The fellow on top of his learning about the real world is everybody else who is not batshiat crazy like McConnell.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-04-16 06:11:34 PM  

the_dude_abides: udhq: Conservatives know that guns enable violence, they just think that a stack of dead children every now and then is just the cost of doing business in a free country.

Things like Newton and Columbine are acceptable to conservatives, or at least moreso than any common sense actions we could take to prevent such tragedies.

2/10 too obvious


So you support universal background checks?
 
2013-04-16 06:11:38 PM  
I think Mitch  McConnell is right. Americans have been way too complacent. It's time to invade North Korea to secure Americas freedom.
 
2013-04-16 06:13:22 PM  

Cletus C.: jcooli09: the_dude_abides: udhq: Conservatives know that guns enable violence, they just think that a stack of dead children every now and then is just the cost of doing business in a free country.

Things like Newton and Columbine are acceptable to conservatives, or at least moreso than any common sense actions we could take to prevent such tragedies.

2/10 too obvious

Do you dispute it?

I do. And I believe strongly in gun control. To say the slaughter of children is acceptable to conservatives is delusional. Such tragedies are only "aceeptable" to the deepest-do-do of psychopaths. Your political tunnel vision may put conservatives in that camp, but that's your personal issue. One you should probably have examined.


Gun nuts absolutely accept that some number of gun deaths are acceptable in order to keep their 2nd amendment rights unencumbered.  Some of those are going to be children.

Ask them if it's acceptable and they'll say know and probably believe it's true.   But as soon as ANY proposal is put forth to attempt to reduce the violence and their reaction is to buy more guns and ammo, or put armed guards (and in some cases, armed civilians) in the schools.
 
2013-04-16 06:16:46 PM  

skullkrusher: For all we know the only significance of the date is that that's the date of the marathon and the attackers thought the finish line would make a good target.


Well that's the other option I was looking at.  Then there's the lone jihadi supposition.  Typically, they go for excellerant and fertilizer, though. And in cars. Not gunpowder, carpenter nails and BBs in pressure cookers.  Granted, it's harder to keep a stagnant m.o. stateside than it used to be, but the size and scope is definitely too small to be funded by foreign entities.  So yeah, it may be a lone muslim or even a klatch of them.  I'm just not getting the vibe.  Not that my vibe means anything.
And, again, I haven't suggested the right wing, as we know it, as an option.  I'm talking about people we haven't heard from, not those softcore loudmouths on the TV.  The real white supremacist criminal underground is nightmarish.
 
2013-04-16 06:17:41 PM  

udhq: jcooli09: SkinnyHead: what_now: We aren't all pants shiatting cowards, McConnell, you asshole.

Could have fooled me, seeing how liberals have been filling their pants lately in fear that their neighbors might have an assault rifle.

I think you have us confused with conservatives.  Liberals aren't afraid, we're pissed that you cowards can't see that too many guns breed violence.

Conservatives know that guns enable violence, they just think that a stack of dead children every now and then is just the cost of doing business in a free country.

Things like Newton and Columbine are acceptable to conservatives, or at least moreso than any common sense actions we could take to prevent such tragedies.


Weird. I remember the TSA taking common sense actions to prevent certain tragedies. How widely popular were those measures?
 
2013-04-16 06:17:45 PM  
I hope I am not the only person who thought of Bert the duck and cover turtle after reading this.

 upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-04-16 06:21:11 PM  
Christ, what an asshole.
 
2013-04-16 06:21:35 PM  
Obama today:

"In the coming days, we will pursue every effort to get to the bottom of what happened. And we will continue to remain vigilant. I've directed my administration to take appropriate security measures to protect the American people. And this is a good time for all of us to remember that we al have a part to play in alerting authorities - if you see something suspicious, speak up."

/Victim blaming according to Fark
 
2013-04-16 06:21:39 PM  

jcooli09: Cletus C.: jcooli09: the_dude_abides: udhq: Conservatives know that guns enable violence, they just think that a stack of dead children every now and then is just the cost of doing business in a free country.

Things like Newton and Columbine are acceptable to conservatives, or at least moreso than any common sense actions we could take to prevent such tragedies.

2/10 too obvious

Do you dispute it?

I do. And I believe strongly in gun control. To say the slaughter of children is acceptable to conservatives is delusional. Such tragedies are only "aceeptable" to the deepest-do-do of psychopaths. Your political tunnel vision may put conservatives in that camp, but that's your personal issue. One you should probably have examined.

Gun nuts absolutely accept that some number of gun deaths are acceptable in order to keep their 2nd amendment rights unencumbered.  Some of those are going to be children.

Ask them if it's acceptable and they'll say know (no) and probably believe it's true.  But as soon as ANY proposal is put forth to attempt to reduce the violence and their reaction is to buy more guns and ammo, or put armed guards (and in some cases, armed civilians) in the schools.


So no, you don't believe that. Good. You are drawing lines and connecting them in various ways to various dots.

I think gun nuts truly believe the way to prevent more slaughters is to get more guns out there. I think they're morons for that and wrong, wrong, wrong, but I do not believe they accept the mass murder of children as acceptable collateral in there fight to keep their guns.
 
2013-04-16 06:21:48 PM  

Cletus C.: I do. And I believe strongly in gun control. To say the slaughter of children is acceptable to conservatives is delusional. Such tragedies are only "aceeptable" to the deepest-do-do of psychopaths. Your political tunnel vision may put conservatives in that camp, but that's your personal issue. One you should probably have examined.


The fact is, we could decide to end Newtons and Columbines once and for all if we wanted to.  The question is how much freedom are we willing to surrender.

Everybody has a line.  To me, the fact that children occasionally die violent deaths is more acceptable than universal personal surveillance.  What I object to is people on the right who place that line at a point of relatively minor inconvenience.
 
2013-04-16 06:22:33 PM  

TerminalEchoes: Because we have become complacent.

[citation needed]
 
2013-04-16 06:23:01 PM  

thamike: skullkrusher: For all we know the only significance of the date is that that's the date of the marathon and the attackers thought the finish line would make a good target.

Well that's the other option I was looking at.  Then there's the lone jihadi supposition.  Typically, they go for excellerant and fertilizer, though. And in cars. Not gunpowder, carpenter nails and BBs in pressure cookers.  Granted, it's harder to keep a stagnant m.o. stateside than it used to be, but the size and scope is definitely too small to be funded by foreign entities.  So yeah, it may be a lone muslim or even a klatch of them.  I'm just not getting the vibe.  Not that my vibe means anything.
And, again, I haven't suggested the right wing, as we know it, as an option.  I'm talking about people we haven't heard from, not those softcore loudmouths on the TV.  The real white supremacist criminal underground is nightmarish.


I think a group of Muslims is called a "murder", not a "klatch".
Tasteless jokes aside, I don't think this is the work of international planning regardless of who actually did it. Could be a homegrown honkey, could be a disillusioned US resident Muslim who spent the holidays in Pakistan and sent forth to do what he could, could be OWS getting one right for a change, who knows. It was pretty well conceived to do maximum damage with the staggered explosions, though, so I'd imagine we can probably rule out OWS.
 
2013-04-16 06:23:29 PM  

eggrolls: Can we test McConnell's level of complacency by...


Shutup. Idiot.
 
2013-04-16 06:24:30 PM  

Mrbogey: I understand the fark meme to make the headline say something different than what was actually said but really subby?

He didn't blame the victims.

Subby is a grade "A" asshole.


You should punch him in the face.
 
2013-04-16 06:24:50 PM  

udhq: Cletus C.: I do. And I believe strongly in gun control. To say the slaughter of children is acceptable to conservatives is delusional. Such tragedies are only "aceeptable" to the deepest-do-do of psychopaths. Your political tunnel vision may put conservatives in that camp, but that's your personal issue. One you should probably have examined.

The fact is, we could decide to end Newtons and Columbines once and for all if we wanted to.  The question is how much freedom are we willing to surrender.

Everybody has a line.  To me, the fact that children occasionally die violent deaths is more acceptable than universal personal surveillance.  What I object to is people on the right who place that line at a point of relatively minor inconvenience.


For gawd's sake. I'd let the government set up a camera by the bed while I was farking your mother if it would prevent the death of one child.
 
2013-04-16 06:28:57 PM  
Heh... What a farking asshole. Keep 'em scared, eh, Mitch?


Did McConnell happen to notice the sheer amount of security personnel in Boston for the Marathon yesterday?

Has he been to any large public gathering or rode on a subway in a major city or flown on a commercial flight recently?

Maybe he's confusing Buttplug Hollow, KY (pop. 25) with large urban centers in the US, but anyone who spends time in major urban areas can tell you security and Americans have not become "complacent".

farking butt plug.
 
2013-04-16 06:29:01 PM  

impaler: eggrolls: Can we test McConnell's level of complacency by...

Shutup. Idiot.


someone had to say it
 
2013-04-16 06:29:22 PM  

Cletus C.: So no, you don't believe that. Good. You are drawing lines and connecting them in various ways to various dots.

I think gun nuts truly believe the way to prevent more slaughters is to get more guns out there. I think they're morons for that and wrong, wrong, wrong, but I do not believe they accept the mass murder of children as acceptable collateral in there fight to keep their guns.


Thanks for the non-fascist correction.  I owe you one.

I'll have to concede that some gun nuts think that's true, but not all.  None of them are going to say that it's OK for children to be shot, but it isn't that uncommon for them to believe that a quantity of gun deaths are the price we pay for 2nd amendment rights.

It's true, too, just like a certain number of traffic deaths are the price we pay for driving around.   The difference is that we take steps to mitigate traffic deaths.
 
2013-04-16 06:34:25 PM  
Jormungandr,
They are for sale as slingshot ammo too. Quick google search reveals 1/2" chrome steel balls cost about 5$ a pound...
Having said that they do work great for slingshot ammo.
/I bet we're all on a watch list now


I am quite sure that some of my searches like this were flagged. I like to research and understand dangerous, interesting things in theory. I am used to the old pre-streaming, shopping internet that died sometime after after late 2001.

I am rather sad that some of the more interesting WTF corners of the internet are probably out of bounds if you don't want to be put on a higher priority list by predator or whatever they call it now.
 
2013-04-16 06:36:17 PM  

Aar1012: I'm surprised he didn't try to blame Obama or the Democrats.

/Waiting for that fallout to happen


Give it time, it's only been 24 hrs after all.
 
2013-04-16 06:37:17 PM  
who has become complacent?
who would suggest complacency?

someone who hasn't turned on a t.v. or a radio in the last 12 years or so or perhaps someone who doesn't have family or friends in uniform.  Maybe someone who has their head so far up their rear that they cant hear or see whats be televised or reported on a daily basis for the most part.  Maybe someone who hasn't gone thru security to board a plane in recent years or even been to a ball game (yeah there's security checkpoint there too) hell even Disneyland has you herded through security troughs.  all of these are daily reminders of the potential that terrorism demands.  Hell if you were to simply pay attention to politics you will not see complacency there's an everyday back and forth, worst case scenarios being touted as truth, NOBODY is complacent, at least not anyone paying attention to the world today.

Im not sure what the hell trutle was hinting at but i am offended that he thinks all Americans are as dumb as those who voted for him.

sheesh! I haven't been complacent since 8th grade or so.
 
2013-04-16 06:37:35 PM  

udhq: So you support universal background checks?


sure, sounds reasonable enough.
 
2013-04-16 06:38:52 PM  

justinguarini4ever: Obama today:

"In the coming days, we will pursue every effort to get to the bottom of what happened. And we will continue to remain vigilant. I've directed my administration to take appropriate security measures to protect the American people. And this is a good time for all of us to remember that we al have a part to play in alerting authorities - if you see something suspicious, speak up."

/Victim blaming according to Fark


Yeah, I missed the part where Obama said that people had become "too complacent" like McConnell did.
 
2013-04-16 06:41:33 PM  
Fear will keep the local systems...er....state governors in line.
 
2013-04-16 06:41:37 PM  

HeartBurnKid: justinguarini4ever: Obama today:

"In the coming days, we will pursue every effort to get to the bottom of what happened. And we will continue to remain vigilant. I've directed my administration to take appropriate security measures to protect the American people. And this is a good time for all of us to remember that we al have a part to play in alerting authorities - if you see something suspicious, speak up."

/Victim blaming according to Fark

Yeah, I missed the part where Obama said that people had become "too complacent" like McConnell did.


Yeah he didn't use te exact same words therefore he's President for life and Mitch McConnnell has to give the Obama kids shell rides around the rose garden.
 
2013-04-16 06:42:24 PM  

SkinnyHead: coeyagi: SkinnyHead: There's nothing controversial about warning people against complacency when it comes to terrorism.   Unless you happen to be a big fan of complacency.

Except that is a completely transparent attempt at ginning up fear so that you will vote GOP and Big Government [Depart of Defense] and line the pockets further of defense contractors, but I guess in the post WWII era that isn't controversial, that is just the same happy bullsh*t we live with every day, much like oxygen poaching Fark posters who force us to respond to their retardation.

The actual reason why libs are so offended by talk about complacency is that they see it as an attack on their complacent president.


Damn, you're out derping tenpoundsofderp. That is some industrial strength derping right there.
 
2013-04-16 06:43:26 PM  
I think it's safe to say that for many, the complacency that prevailed prior to September 11th has actually returned.

The headline is incorrect.  McConnel is certainly saying that "many" Americans have become complacent.  But there is no way to determine if he would consider any of the direct victims of the attack, or those secondary victims directly targeted in the attack, as some of those "many" complacent Americans. So, he can't be accused of blaming any of those victims for being complacent, because he has a plausible out.

He also doesn't directly connect the apparent complacency he sees to the attack.  It's just sort of there.

Also, of note, the Thinkprogress article pretty much reports on the remark exactly as stated, but did omit the qualifier "many" in the headline and said "some" instead of "many" in the body.  By using "some" instead of "many" in the body of the article, they actually make him look better.  Nothing about victim blaming in that article.

As for his statement itself, that many Americans have become complacent, I have no idea what he's talking about.  I don't see it.  I don't feel it.  I still worry about watching "live" events on TV because I fear seeing a terror attack as it happens.  I hate when Obama makes speeches in public because I'm afraid someone will take a shot at him.  I'm glad TP highlighted this from McConnell, because if he thinks Americans have become more complacent than we were prior to 9/11, I take it to mean he surrounds himself with people who are out of touch with most Americans.  And that's not good.
 
2013-04-16 06:43:46 PM  
SkinnyHead:

The actual reason why libs are so offended by talk about complacency is that they see it as an attack on their complacent president.

you should keep blaming the victims.   that's just awesome dude!
 
2013-04-16 06:47:21 PM  
The elephant in the room is that perfect security is impossible.  To get within the 90% percentile of perfect security (international AND domestic) would require a level of control over every action of every citizen as to make Orwell think you're over the line.  But for some unfathomable reason the average person thinks that it's a binary choice: anarchy or massively imposed order.  And of course when any form of middle ground is brought up the zealots retreat further into their partisan corners.

Just as perfect economic models cannot survive exposure to the real world and its imperfect denizens, so too fall perfect security models.  We must address the uncomfortable fact that there are among us broken souls, who choose to ignore (or simply cannot comprehend) the simple ethic that we're all members of a civilization and that civilization requires we all adapt to rules which prevent the most harm from happening to the most people.  As individuals we must be more vigilant for these broken people and deal with them in a rational manner, not ignore the fact that our community is not so exceptional after all and leave these unfortunates to huddle in their shadows and act out later.

/Occasionally, we elect them to office
 
2013-04-16 06:51:37 PM  
Saying in the aftermath of an apparent terrorist attack that we've become "complacent" is stupidly vague on one level, and fairly irresponsible on another, especially when offering such little context.

Fine, next time I'm out in public, I will personally tackle every Middle-Eastern looking person and hold them until authorities arrive. Who cares if I'm profiling and they're completely innocent; I don't want to be "complacent", brah.

/note: this goes for any public official; please stop saying vague, meaningless tropes without substance in times like these. It helps no one.
 
2013-04-16 06:57:19 PM  

Dr Dreidel: Chariset: Bad happens to the bad; good happens to the good. If something horrific happened to you, you must have deserved it.

It's easy to say this from the relative isolation of Kentucky. When was the last time a "terrorist" even looked at Kentucky on a map, The Civil War?

// yes, I know he spends lots of time here in DC
// the constituencies he's speaking to...don't


Mid-1960s, according to this guy:

www.bigflax.com
 
2013-04-16 06:57:47 PM  

Mrbogey: In the suicide note, he begins by expressing displeasure with the government, the bailout of financial institutions, politicians, the conglomerate companies of General Motors, Enron and Arthur Andersen, unions, drug and health care insurance companies, and the Catholic Church.[32] [...]

Hates GWB and the Catholic Church, cites Marx, wants revolt, and is critical of the bailouts. That sounds a hell of a lot more like OWS than the Tea Party.


Roight, guv.  Those Smelly Hippies at OWS hates themselves some Union Thugs.
 
2013-04-16 06:57:54 PM  
Fine, you want less complacency? You want people to start panicking and shooting with their Freedom Guns at anyone who looks like a threat?

Well, Mitch, if that's what you want I'd suggest you start staying indoors, because shiat like this shows us all that the real threat is from right-wing trash corrupting the government and trying to keep us all in a state of perpetual fear.
 
2013-04-16 06:58:14 PM  

MSFT: Mrbogey: I understand the fark meme to make the headline say something different than what was actually said but really subby?

He didn't blame the victims.

Subby is a grade "A" asshole.

You should punch him in the face.


Ah...my stalker returns.
 
2013-04-16 06:59:22 PM  
At the risk of blaming the victims, can I just say I don't understand why public trashcans are allowed to unsecured/unguarded during events like this?  It probably wouldn't have stopped this bombing if they had been, but, I still wonder.

/bombproof trashcans, the next big thing
 
2013-04-16 07:01:44 PM  

Mrbogey: MSFT: Mrbogey: I understand the fark meme to make the headline say something different than what was actually said but really subby?

He didn't blame the victims.

Subby is a grade "A" asshole.

You should punch him in the face.

Ah...my stalker returns.


Well, you got complacent.  It's you're own fault.
 
2013-04-16 07:02:45 PM  

Lee Jackson Beauregard: Mrbogey: In the suicide note, he begins by expressing displeasure with the government, the bailout of financial institutions, politicians, the conglomerate companies of General Motors, Enron and Arthur Andersen, unions, drug and health care insurance companies, and the Catholic Church.[32] [...]

Hates GWB and the Catholic Church, cites Marx, wants revolt, and is critical of the bailouts. That sounds a hell of a lot more like OWS than the Tea Party.

Roight, guv.  Those Smelly Hippies at OWS hates themselves some Union Thugs.


His belief was that unions failed the workers. Not that they shouldn't exist.
 
2013-04-16 07:03:05 PM  

RyogaM: At the risk of blaming the victims, can I just say I don't understand why public trashcans are allowed to unsecured/unguarded during events like this?  It probably wouldn't have stopped this bombing if they had been, but, I still wonder.

/bombproof trashcans, the next big thing


holy crap! Kevlar trash bins!! sold to every farking city in the nation nay the world! that's not a bad idea if it worked.
would be an easy sell if you just mentioned a couple scary numbers in sequential order, just a reminder so to speak.
 
2013-04-16 07:08:13 PM  
McConnell is actually just repeating FOX News talking points on this one:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/04/16/boston-bombing-shatters -new -complacency/
 
2013-04-16 07:11:24 PM  

Rhino_man: McConnell is actually just repeating FOX News talking points on this one:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/04/16/boston-bombing-shatters -new -complacency/


Wretched piece of shiat parrots other wretched pieces of shiat, film at 11.
 
2013-04-16 07:21:18 PM  

skullkrusher: carpbrain: Bisu: 1) He doesn't appear to be blaming anyone, just mentioning something (complacency) that he observed but didn't necessarily cause anything.
2) He doesn't even MENTION the victims.
3) Submitter is a troll.

It must be sorry to be you.

umm.. he's right. Subby is a troll.


it's sorry to be him because he can't engage in the wild-eyed whackadoodliness being expressed here.
 
2013-04-16 07:24:01 PM  

A Dark Evil Omen: Rhino_man: McConnell is actually just repeating FOX News talking points on this one:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/04/16/boston-bombing-shatters -new -complacency/

Wretched piece of shiat parrots other wretched pieces of shiat, film at 11.


Well given the denials by various Islamic Groups and the fact this occurred on Patriot Day and Tax Day, it's either blame the victims or admit it was domestic anti-government folks.  I assume fox doesn't want to blame the latter for ratings reasons.

Clearly Time is just speculating here, but the dates and the MO both suggest an anti-government individual  since this was their big holiday and day to make a statement historically coupled with the fact they like bombs.
 
2013-04-16 07:25:53 PM  
FTFA: And so we are newly reminded that serious threats to our way of life remain.

Considering the biggest impactor on "our way of life" has been the government, not the terrorists, and this jackhole wants us to continue down that path...excuse me, I have to go puke.
 
2013-04-16 07:26:56 PM  

scottydoesntknow: So what, the TSA will start screening marathons?

Bad shiat happens. It sucks that it happens, but it will happen. It always happens. The worst thing you can do is let the bad guy think he won by convincing everyone to live in fear or trying to control the population through fear.


According to one of the comments, Mitch McTurtle got his undies in a wad because TSA was 'too invasive'.

If only there was some way to harness any real energy caused by this sort of spinning...
 
2013-04-16 07:28:33 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Mitch...

(insert you aren't helping photo)

that is all.


GoldSpider: This is a party that has obviously learned from past mistakes.


Hm.
 
2013-04-16 07:30:11 PM  

skullkrusher: Yeah he didn't use te exact same words...


Hold on a second. Our friends on the Right have been screaming bloody murder because President Obama referred to Benghazi as an act of terror instead of terrorism. But now suddenly we're supposed to interpret his words much more loosely?
 
2013-04-16 07:38:13 PM  

dericwater: Americans are complacent on terrorism as evidenced by a bombing that killed three. Yet, when there's a shooting every other week that kills, like at Newtown, 26, it's, "We can't do a thing about it. It's in the constitution."

Well, asshole, fark you.


Yeah, well, Americans aren't the sharpest tools in the shed.
 
2013-04-16 07:43:03 PM  
He should be blaming every person who's had a hand in our foreign policy over the last 100 years.
 
2013-04-16 07:43:16 PM  

RyogaM: /bombproof trashcans, the next big thing


well see, the first thing that we do is make the container thicker and stronger, able to "contain" the blast.
Make certain that the cover is an insanely tight fit.

that way, what the blast goes off, there will be nowhere for the energy to dissipate.
OH WAIT, that would just cause the trash can to become shrapnel if the last is strong enough to shatter the container .

hmmmm
ok, fine, leave the top open, so the blast just shoots skywards ....
no wait, now we have created a cannon

FARK
time to take the trash cans off of the street again
 
2013-04-16 07:45:29 PM  
Dammit guys, this shiat makes you look just as dishonest as the idiot right wingers.  It's blatantly obvious that he isn't blaming the victims, he's fear mongering.  He isn't aiming at Bostonians, he's saying to all of us "See?  You should be afraid.  Give me and my fellow chickenhawk war-profiteer friends more power, we'll protect you."

/Always pisses me off that people make shiat up when there's a perfectly good reason to despise a person already available
 
2013-04-16 07:48:20 PM  

namatad: hmmmm
ok, fine, leave the top open, so the blast just shoots skywards ....
no wait, now we have created a cannon


You dig a hole under the bomb proof trash can and cover it with plastic.  Then you make the bottom of the can weaker than anything else, but anchor it firmly in place.  So the force will break the plastic and the blast goes down there and kills whatever rats/homeless/subhuman races have taken up residence in the underground network of trash can holes.  Clearly this must be done.

Actually the semi-reasonable solution is some kind of cheap sensor built into the can that detects explosives and alters the authorities.  We can also make it detect motor oil and things like that as well in case some jackass gets lazy in the "dispose of the old oil" phase of his oil change.
 
2013-04-16 07:56:10 PM  

skullkrusher: thamike: skullkrusher: Wouldn't Independence Day make more sense from a symbolic perspective? Hitting a government building rather than a marathon route?

The marathon happens on Patriots Day which commemorates the Battles of Lexington and Concord, which kicked off the American Revolution with the "shot heard 'round the world."  The whole thing is maximum population density, especially at the finish line, and especially after the race has already been won by the athletes and the straggling townsfolk are all bunched together in the back of the line, basically walking.  Also, there is maximum media exposure.

What part of that whole scenario doesn't make sense?

I guess I don't get the "inflict as many civilian casualties as possible" angle if this were done by a guy looking to start a 2nd revolution. McVeigh wanted many casualties to make a big impact but he specifically wanted to limit non-government employee casualties and targeted the Murrah Building because it housed a number of government agencies. Other right wing terror attacks have targeted specific groups (gays, blacks, their "sympathizers", etc) but it seems pretty uncommon to just try to randomly kill a bunch of American civilians with no real symbolic target attached to it. Even Rudolph hit the Atlanta games because he thought the Olympics were socialist.

For all we know the only significance of the date is that that's the date of the marathon and the attackers thought the finish line would make a good target.


What I think--as I already posted on a different thread--is that whoever did this has some kind of gripe either with the Boston Marathon itself, or with runners in general. I don't think it was a foreign group, and I doubt it was any organized domestic group; I'm leaning toward an individual, possibly military, probably disabled or with a disabled family member.

Reason is because of the ungodly number of amputations that seem to have resulted from the blasts. Whoever set these devices placed them low to the ground, at locations that were near the race, but not right up against it, and detonated them after the top runners finished, so the crowd was dissipating but still large; so there would be maximum injuries. Somebody wanted to ensure the largest number of lower-body casualties he could manage--he wanted to make sure a whole lot of people never got to run again.

Closer to the finish line, or closer to the number-one finishers would have guaranteed more deaths (more tightly packed crowds) but fewer overall casualties; farther away might have caused more total casualties but fewer serious injuries. A higher blast might have injured more and even killed more; but something about the placement and type of shrapnel has a "so-there" quality about it. Someone is trying to make others suffer like he is suffering. I think someone is watching reports about people losing limbs and hearing about the tourniquets being applied and all that, and seriously getting off.
 
2013-04-16 07:58:12 PM  

FlashHarry: can you imagine the apoplexy from the right if obama had said something like that?


I remember the "Truther" movement being brief and an actual embarrassment to the Democrats.  The difference between that and the "Birther" movement (which is still going on) is that when Democrats were asked "What do you tell people who think that Bush was involved with 9/11?", not a single one said "I'm not going to tell people what to think".
 
2013-04-16 08:01:27 PM  

The Lone Gunman: FlashHarry: can you imagine the apoplexy from the right if obama had said something like that?

I remember the "Truther" movement being brief and an actual embarrassment to the Democrats.  The difference between that and the "Birther" movement (which is still going on) is that when Democrats were asked "What do you tell people who think that Bush was involved with 9/11?", not a single one said "I'm not going to tell people what to think".


That would be the first time for that.
 
2013-04-16 08:03:43 PM  

Gyrfalcon: skullkrusher: thamike: skullkrusher: Wouldn't Independence Day make more sense from a symbolic perspective? Hitting a government building rather than a marathon route?

The marathon happens on Patriots Day which commemorates the Battles of Lexington and Concord, which kicked off the American Revolution with the "shot heard 'round the world."  The whole thing is maximum population density, especially at the finish line, and especially after the race has already been won by the athletes and the straggling townsfolk are all bunched together in the back of the line, basically walking.  Also, there is maximum media exposure.

What part of that whole scenario doesn't make sense?

I guess I don't get the "inflict as many civilian casualties as possible" angle if this were done by a guy looking to start a 2nd revolution. McVeigh wanted many casualties to make a big impact but he specifically wanted to limit non-government employee casualties and targeted the Murrah Building because it housed a number of government agencies. Other right wing terror attacks have targeted specific groups (gays, blacks, their "sympathizers", etc) but it seems pretty uncommon to just try to randomly kill a bunch of American civilians with no real symbolic target attached to it. Even Rudolph hit the Atlanta games because he thought the Olympics were socialist.

For all we know the only significance of the date is that that's the date of the marathon and the attackers thought the finish line would make a good target.

What I think--as I already posted on a different thread--is that whoever did this has some kind of gripe either with the Boston Marathon itself, or with runners in general. I don't think it was a foreign group, and I doubt it was any organized domestic group; I'm leaning toward an individual, possibly military, probably disabled or with a disabled family member.

Reason is because of the ungodly number of amputations that seem to have resulted from the blasts. Whoever set these devic ...


Interesting theory. Cops are looking for someone who lost the ability to run?

/where's the Farker who was writing a book? That's another good plotline for 'em.
 
2013-04-16 08:08:03 PM  

The Why Not Guy: skullkrusher: Yeah he didn't use te exact same words...

Hold on a second. Our friends on the Right have been screaming bloody murder because President Obama referred to Benghazi as an act of terror instead of terrorism. But now suddenly we're supposed to interpret his words much more loosely?


Have you seen me scream about Benghazi? No. So why the fark would you think this is a appropriate response?
 
2013-04-16 08:16:28 PM  

ha-ha-guy: some kind of cheap sensor built into the can that detects explosives and alters the authorities.


Pray they do not alter them any further.
 
2013-04-16 08:24:46 PM  
www.sussex.ac.uk
How DARE we not be scared sh*tless Red Alert 24/7/365

(and not voting republican)
 
2013-04-16 08:27:49 PM  

Peki: Interesting theory. Cops are looking for someone who lost the ability to run?

/where's the Farker who was writing a book? That's another good plotline for 'em.


No, that would only be if the bombs were found in a water tank on the roof of a residential hotel.
 
2013-04-16 08:28:27 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Mitch...

(insert you aren't helping photo)

that is all.


Even tenpundsofdoip is dissing the Talking Turtle?

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-04-16 08:30:23 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Peki: Interesting theory. Cops are looking for someone who lost the ability to run?

/where's the Farker who was writing a book? That's another good plotline for 'em.

No, that would only be if the bombs were found in a water tank on the roof of a residential hotel.


*blink*

If you're referring to an actual piece of literature or event, please enlighten me.
 
2013-04-16 08:33:14 PM  

UNC_Samurai: Aarontology: FEAR. FEAR. FEAR. FEAR. FEAR. FEAR. FEAR. FEAR. FEAR.

[chameleonsden.com image 532x728]


magiccards.info
 
2013-04-16 08:44:00 PM  

Somacandra: ASSHOLE: On 9/11 we forever disabused of the notion that attacks, like the one that rocked Boston yesterday, only happen on the field of battle or in distant countries.

 

fark YOU MITCH MCCONNELL.
SERIOUSLY.
fark YOU AND ALL YOU STAND FOR
YOU INCREDIBLE ASSHOLE


/OKIE


I still don't get how that attack by a republican nut job didn't turn OK purple or light blue. Were you all told it was Pres. Clinton's fault?
 
2013-04-16 08:48:05 PM  

sheep snorter: The fellow on the bottom looking into what he thinks life is like is Mitch McConnell.
The fellow on top of his learning about the real world is everybody else who is not batshiat crazy like McConnell.

[i.imgur.com image 621x729]


0-media-cdn.foolz.us

Just because you see a pic on Reddit doesn't mean you have to post it elsewhere, regardless of subject topic.

/ I saw a funny cat pic
// Oh no, explosion in Boston!
/// I'm sure one of the victims owned a cat...
 
2013-04-16 08:49:14 PM  
Couple of points:

1.  If you have a pressure cooker in your house, lock that shiat up.  It is dangerous.
2.  If you don't have one, you should get one now, before the ban/confiscation of pressure cookers begins.
3.  I can't imagine what the background checks will be like to purchase a pressure cooker in the future, so be ready.

Even vigilant,
Propain_az
 
2013-04-16 08:59:12 PM  

dababler: Somacandra: ASSHOLE: On 9/11 we forever disabused of the notion that attacks, like the one that rocked Boston yesterday, only happen on the field of battle or in distant countries.

 

fark YOU MITCH MCCONNELL.
SERIOUSLY.
fark YOU AND ALL YOU STAND FOR
YOU INCREDIBLE ASSHOLE


/OKIE

I still don't get how that attack by a republican nut job didn't turn OK purple or light blue. Were you all told it was Pres. Clinton's fault?


I don't think McVeigh ran for office
 
2013-04-16 09:04:50 PM  

Propain_az: 3. I can't imagine what the background checks will be like to purchase a pressure cooker in the future, so be ready.


When crockpots are outlawed, only outlaws will have crockpots.
 
2013-04-16 09:16:29 PM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Propain_az: 3. I can't imagine what the background checks will be like to purchase a pressure cooker in the future, so be ready.

When crockpots are outlawed, only outlaws will have crockpots.


I read that as crackpots. Way funnier.
 
2013-04-16 09:18:44 PM  

Emposter: Dammit guys, this shiat makes you look just as dishonest as the idiot right wingers.  It's blatantly obvious that he isn't blaming the victims, he's fear mongering.  He isn't aiming at Bostonians, he's saying to all of us "See?  You should be afraid.  Give me and my fellow chickenhawk war-profiteer friends more power, we'll protect you."

/Always pisses me off that people make shiat up when there's a perfectly good reason to despise a person already available


He can't be doing both?  His obvious subtext is, "this is your fault for voting democrat."  He's saying the complacency of us commoners is why the bombing succeeded.  OUR complacency, OUR suffering.
 
2013-04-16 09:19:09 PM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Propain_az: 3. I can't imagine what the background checks will be like to purchase a pressure cooker in the future, so be ready.

When crockpots are outlawed, only outlaws will have crockpots.


There is a distinct difference between a crockpot and pressure cooker.
 
2013-04-16 09:21:43 PM  
If we're fighting a war on terror, and Mitchy here is trying to spread fear, doesn't that make him a traitor?
 
2013-04-16 09:22:51 PM  
As tragic as this event was for the people impacted by it... if anything, it shows we can be more complacent than we are. I don't wish to demean the individual tragedies, or to try and balance the scales of justice with dead bodies, but if this is the worst we have to fear, then we are living in a utopia.
 
2013-04-16 09:23:12 PM  

TheBigJerk: Emposter: Dammit guys, this shiat makes you look just as dishonest as the idiot right wingers.  It's blatantly obvious that he isn't blaming the victims, he's fear mongering.  He isn't aiming at Bostonians, he's saying to all of us "See?  You should be afraid.  Give me and my fellow chickenhawk war-profiteer friends more power, we'll protect you."

/Always pisses me off that people make shiat up when there's a perfectly good reason to despise a person already available

He can't be doing both?  His obvious subtext is, "this is your fault for voting democrat."  He's saying the complacency of us commoners is why the bombing succeeded.  OUR complacency, OUR suffering.


So, take our weapons?  So we can't defend ourselves?  Granted, armed citizens could not have stopped the bombing of Boston, but I am talking about the bigger picture.  The long view.
 
2013-04-16 09:29:48 PM  

Propain_az: TheBigJerk: Emposter: Dammit guys, this shiat makes you look just as dishonest as the idiot right wingers.  It's blatantly obvious that he isn't blaming the victims, he's fear mongering.  He isn't aiming at Bostonians, he's saying to all of us "See?  You should be afraid.  Give me and my fellow chickenhawk war-profiteer friends more power, we'll protect you."

/Always pisses me off that people make shiat up when there's a perfectly good reason to despise a person already available

He can't be doing both?  His obvious subtext is, "this is your fault for voting democrat."  He's saying the complacency of us commoners is why the bombing succeeded.  OUR complacency, OUR suffering.

So, take our weapons?  So we can't defend ourselves?  Granted, armed citizens could not have stopped the bombing of Boston, but I am talking about the bigger picture.  The long view.


I seem to remember a certain school shooting where two armed guards did precisely farkall to stop it:
cdnl.complex.com
 
2013-04-16 09:30:38 PM  

Rhino_man: Propain_az: TheBigJerk: Emposter: Dammit guys, this shiat makes you look just as dishonest as the idiot right wingers.  It's blatantly obvious that he isn't blaming the victims, he's fear mongering.  He isn't aiming at Bostonians, he's saying to all of us "See?  You should be afraid.  Give me and my fellow chickenhawk war-profiteer friends more power, we'll protect you."

/Always pisses me off that people make shiat up when there's a perfectly good reason to despise a person already available

He can't be doing both?  His obvious subtext is, "this is your fault for voting democrat."  He's saying the complacency of us commoners is why the bombing succeeded.  OUR complacency, OUR suffering.

So, take our weapons?  So we can't defend ourselves?  Granted, armed citizens could not have stopped the bombing of Boston, but I am talking about the bigger picture.  The long view.

I seem to remember a certain school shooting where two armed guards did precisely farkall to stop it:
[cdnl.complex.com image 620x400]


Note:  The two armed men in the picture are Police, not the worthless armed guards in question.
 
2013-04-16 09:37:01 PM  
I read TFA.

Nowhere is McConnell blaming the victims for being complacent.  he's making at statement about how as Americans, we have become complacent.  Nowhere did he tie that into the victims somehow being at fault.

This is fark at its worst.
 
2013-04-16 09:47:40 PM  

SkinnyHead: There's nothing controversial about warning people against complacency when it comes to terrorism.   Unless you happen to be a big fan of complacency.


Complacency, at times, can be a good thing.  Complacency is better than lashing out at random people who had nothing to do with the unjust act just to do something about it.

/I'm not criticizing any specific policy.  I'm just saying that, unless there's a time constraint that doesn't allow for it, it's better to get all your information before acting.
 
2013-04-16 10:09:18 PM  
Especially for you, M*tch McConnell

/yuppers, press Play button because Quiet Tube
 
2013-04-16 10:19:00 PM  
How long until this turd issues the classic slimy non-apology apology 'If he offended anyone'.
 
2013-04-16 10:20:04 PM  

Ackbarican_Idol: How long until this turd issues the classic slimy non-apology apology 'If he offended anyone'.


You expect him to apologize for something that Think Progress invented? My guess is never.
 
2013-04-16 10:25:52 PM  

SkinnyHead: There's nothing controversial about warning people against complacency when it comes to terrorism.   Unless you happen to be a big fan of complacency.


Well, if I was a vigilant Conservative, I'd be hiding under my bed instead of being out and living life.  Being vigilant in the Conservative sense means being afraid of everything and considering anything new to be bad or wrong.

I'm sure that you - Mr. Eagle eye - would be able to pick out an IED in ANY situation.  How naive are you?  Or do you think that a strong belief in some mythical creature gives you some insight that does not require real study or knowledge?
 
2013-04-16 10:30:03 PM  

Chariset: It's a just world!

Bad happens to the bad; good happens to the good.   If something horrific happened to you, you must have deserved it.

After all the alternative is to think that bad things can happen to people who have nothing to do with the incident and are doing nothing wrong, like me, and we can't have that.


Heh. I think some conservative Christians just didn't quite get the message from the book of Job.
 
2013-04-16 10:31:32 PM  

rosebud_the_sled: SkinnyHead: There's nothing controversial about warning people against complacency when it comes to terrorism.   Unless you happen to be a big fan of complacency.

Well, if I was were a vigilant Conservative, I'd be hiding under my bed instead of being out and living life.  Being vigilant in the Conservative sense means being afraid of everything and considering anything new to be bad or wrong.

I'm sure that you - Mr. Eagle eye - would be able to pick out an IED in ANY situation.  How naive are you?  Or do you think that a strong belief in some mythical creature gives you some insight that does not require real study or knowledge?


The subjunctive never did anything to you. Why do you hate it so much?
 
2013-04-16 10:32:20 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Chariset: It's a just world!

Bad happens to the bad; good happens to the good.   If something horrific happened to you, you must have deserved it.

After all the alternative is to think that bad things can happen to people who have nothing to do with the incident and are doing nothing wrong, like me, and we can't have that.

Heh. I think some conservative Christians just didn't quite get the message from the book of Job.


I tried to but some Messican took it
 
2013-04-16 10:56:46 PM  

Propain_az: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Propain_az: 3. I can't imagine what the background checks will be like to purchase a pressure cooker in the future, so be ready.

When crockpots are outlawed, only outlaws will have crockpots.

There is a distinct difference between a crockpot and pressure cooker.


Is it how many meals I can prepare with one turn of the knob?
 
2013-04-16 11:14:43 PM  

seventypercent: I wonder if Senator McConnell has any suggestions for how to attend a marathon in a non-complacent fashion.

 
2013-04-17 12:03:01 AM  

Boeheimian Rhapsody: JolobinSmokin: Somacandra: ASSHOLE: On 9/11 we forever disabused of the notion that attacks, like the one that rocked Boston yesterday, only happen on the field of battle or in distant countries.

[i.imgur.com image 413x333] [i.imgur.com image 408x599]

fark YOU MITCH MCCONNELL.
SERIOUSLY.
fark YOU AND ALL YOU STAND FOR
YOU INCREDIBLE ASSHOLE


/OKIE

I was in OKC that day on a field trip.  We had just left downtown OKC and were heading back to Sequoyah county were I am from and had made it to Shawnee when we heard the news, don't even remember what we were there for at the time.

Fark you Mitch McConnel from another

/OKIE

Also could have worked:


[websites.wnc.edu image 850x596]

csb:
my wife and I were on Oahu for our honeymoon and took a day trip to visit pearl harbor. While we were on the Arizona Memorial one of the survivors entered with the group behind ours. The staff called the place to attention and there was a huge round of applause.

It's tough to put into words how we felt that day. It was sobering. It was terrifying. It was beautiful. Everything that happened that day was recorded down to the minute. To this day I get chills thinking about that experience.


I think my favorite thing about visiting there was getting my Mom to overcome her objections to Japanese tourists being there.
None of them gave the orders to carpet bomb us, and it's just as important a landmark for both sides.  I didn't see anyone saying "yeah, we kicked your ass" or "scoreboard" or anything like that; we were just soaking in this still-dripping-out-oil artifact of man's occasional inhumanity toward other men.

[/csb]

But yeah, McConnell is a flaming bag of poo
 
2013-04-17 12:47:42 AM  

Peki: Gyrfalcon: Peki: Interesting theory. Cops are looking for someone who lost the ability to run?

/where's the Farker who was writing a book? That's another good plotline for 'em.

No, that would only be if the bombs were found in a water tank on the roof of a residential hotel.

*blink*

If you're referring to an actual piece of literature or event, please enlighten me.


Convoluted Fark thread about the dead body that was stashed in the water tank of a hotel here in LA and left there for 2 days--while the residents were showering and bathing in the corpse-juice. Someone opined that it sounded like a bad movie plot.
 
2013-04-17 12:49:13 AM  
How is that blaming the victims? It's obvious he's talking about law enforcement.
 
2013-04-17 12:55:04 AM  

evil saltine: How is that blaming the victims? It's obvious he's talking about law enforcement.


Well republicans are not good at stopping terrorist attacks. (9/11) Hopefully voters realize the more republicans that get elected the more attacks we will have :(
 
2013-04-17 12:55:37 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Peki: Gyrfalcon: Peki: Interesting theory. Cops are looking for someone who lost the ability to run?

/where's the Farker who was writing a book? That's another good plotline for 'em.

No, that would only be if the bombs were found in a water tank on the roof of a residential hotel.

*blink*

If you're referring to an actual piece of literature or event, please enlighten me.

Convoluted Fark thread about the dead body that was stashed in the water tank of a hotel here in LA and left there for 2 days--while the residents were showering and bathing in the corpse-juice. Someone opined that it sounded like a bad movie plot.


Ah okay. I did catch the reference then, just didn't read that thread to make the connection. Ty.
 
2013-04-17 01:02:08 AM  

Chariset: It's a just world!

Bad happens to the bad; good happens to the good.   If something horrific happened to you, you must have deserved it.

After all the alternative is to think that bad things can happen to people who have nothing to do with the incident and are doing nothing wrong, like me, and we can't have that.


You joke, but this is the fundamental premise behind pretty much all of conservative thought.
 
2013-04-17 01:07:41 AM  
You have to wonder what sort of gang the gop is if they hate women, minorities, the elderly, the poor, muslims, and now, victims of terrorist acts.

Just waiting for them to declare war on puppies. You just know they'll get around to hating puppies too eventually.
 
2013-04-17 01:14:16 AM  

TV's Vinnie: You have to wonder what sort of gang the gop is if they hate women, minorities, the elderly, the poor, muslims, and now, victims of terrorist acts.

Just waiting for them to declare war on puppies. You just know they'll get around to hating puppies too eventually.


They already have.
 
2013-04-17 01:18:49 AM  

TV's Vinnie: You have to wonder what sort of gang the gop is if they hate women, minorities, the elderly, the poor, muslims, and now, victims of terrorist acts. gays

Just waiting for them to declare war on puppies. You just know they'll get around to hating puppies too eventually.


you forgot one and substituted it with something that subby and Think Progress made up
 
2013-04-17 01:21:26 AM  
We should ask Taran Zhu what he thinks of McConnell's support for the Sha of Fear.

/definitely not obscure.
 
2013-04-17 01:33:23 AM  

o5iiawah: I read TFA.

Nowhere is McConnell blaming the victims for being complacent.  he's making at statement about how as Americans, we have become complacent.  Nowhere did he tie that into the victims somehow being at fault.

This is fark at its worst.


No...

Fark at nearly its worst is when SkinnyDick and 10poundsofDerp keep posting...

Fark AT its worst is when you add your BS to it.
 
2013-04-17 01:43:00 AM  
Tarded subby is tarded.

"some" & "many" = victims of bombing? Dont hyper-extend yourself stretching like that, subby.
 
2013-04-17 02:01:22 AM  

Alphax: We should ask Taran Zhu what he thinks of McConnell's support for the Sha of Fear.

/definitely not obscure.


"I've had enough of [his] kind!"
*lulz*
 
2013-04-17 02:52:45 AM  

Enemabag Jones: please

//Where does one buy bulk ball bearings anyway?  Isn't that a lead?

at http://bearingballstore.com/wholesale-usa/cat_42.html
that's where!
 
2013-04-17 02:55:51 AM  
O' Mitch got to look tough and take the focus off of his caused problem with Ashley Judd.  Over the weekend I was listening to NPR and a reporter had wanted to release the story sooner and was asked not to because O'Mitch would try to play the victim.  Looks like he found another way to play the roll.
 
Xai
2013-04-17 03:27:59 AM  

Trayal: FTFA:  And so we are newly reminded that serious threats to our way of life remain. And today again we recommit ourselves to the fight against terrorism at home and abroad.

Hmm.

Total deaths from terrorism in US history: ~5,000.
Average deaths per year from auto accidents in the last ten years: ~39,000.

Tell me again how our way if life is threatened and why we should be living in terror?

Oh, right.  Fear mongering for political gain.  Got it.

/Take your fear-based political strategy and farking shove it into your dark smelly orifices.
//All of them.


you do realize that more people have been killed by stairs than by terrorists in the US?
 
2013-04-17 04:08:21 AM  
Crap, here comes PATRIOT ACT 2.0: THE DEFENDING. Every computer will be required to have a webcam that will be remotely operated and will be a felony to cover up to prevent it from taking images.
 
2013-04-17 04:18:21 AM  

jenny next: SkinnyHead: There's nothing controversial about warning people against complacency when it comes to terrorism.   Unless you happen to be a big fan of complacency.

Complacency, at times, can be a good thing.  Complacency is better than lashing out at random people who had nothing to do with the unjust act just to do something about it.

/I'm not criticizing any specific policy.  I'm just saying that, unless there's a time constraint that doesn't allow for it, it's better to get all your information before acting.


The better thing would be to correctly define "complacency." The real definition should look something like this:

COMPLACENCY:
Uh, Admiral Kimmel & General Short? There's been reports of a major Japanese build up in the Pacific and their entire fleet has just completely vanished. You ought to bring the state of alert at Pearl Harbor up a little bit. Oh, and you Brits over at Singapore? Yeah, same warning. Actual response: "We don't think those little yellow sons-of-biatches can do anything." And from the Brits "And if they do, we'll just shove the little fellows off."

NOT COMPLACENCY:
Boston Marathon provides National Guardsmen, Boston PD, Boston Fire Dept., assorted volunteers, other staff and first responders; in case anything--including a terrorist attack--were to happen. That's the opposite of complacent, that's preparedness.
 
2013-04-17 04:47:51 AM  
Wow.    He just sad the terrorist have won.  Pussy.   He is what is wrong with America.
 
2013-04-17 04:48:49 AM  

riverwalk barfly: Wow.    He just sad the terrorist have won.  Pussy.   He is what is wrong with America.


Or he's saying that they haven't won enough.  We're not scared enough.
 
2013-04-17 05:10:25 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Reason is because of the ungodly number of amputations that seem to have resulted from the blasts. Whoever set these devices placed them low to the ground, at locations that were near the race, but not right up against it, and detonated them after the top runners finished, so the crowd was dissipating but still large; so there would be maximum injuries. Somebody wanted to ensure the largest number of lower-body casualties he could manage--he wanted to make sure a whole lot of people never got to run again.


I thought about that, but I think the placement was done out of necessity.  It's a busy area with a lot of surveillance.  They stuck the bombs where they could, and the bombs were fairly amateurish, so it's not like they knew how to (or even cared to) control an explosion.  Nailbombs on the ground tend to blow off legs, not heads.  At this point, I have no reason to think the blown off legs are the medium.  This bomber was going for public carnage, but not the final message.

Also, disgruntled man in wheelchair, stacked to the eyebrows with wired up pressure cookers wrapped in shrapnel straps tends to send off alarms.  Whoever hid these bombs did it swiftly and on foot.  Probably two people, simultaneously, and probably emerging from the subway.
 
Bf+
2013-04-17 09:13:56 AM  

Chuck Wagon: I hope I am not the only person who thought of Bert the duck and cover turtle after reading this.

 [upload.wikimedia.org image 300x232]


Came here for this.
Thank you.
 
2013-04-17 10:09:32 AM  
Yertle needs to just STFU, he hasn't really impressed anybody with anything he's said in quite awhile.
 
2013-04-17 11:28:22 AM  

Propain_az: but I am talking about the bigger picture. The long view.


No you arent.
 
2013-04-17 11:29:09 AM  

o5iiawah: I read TFA.

Nowhere is McConnell blaming the victims for being complacent.  he's making at statement about how as Americans, we have become complacent.  Nowhere did he tie that into the victims somehow being at fault.

This is fark at its worst.


it stinks and it's sad and it's not fun or funny anymore.
 
2013-04-17 11:35:37 AM  

SkinnyHead: There's nothing controversial about warning people against complacency when it comes to terrorism.   Unless you happen to be a big fan of complacency.


Blaming the dead and maimed for being "complacent"? That's particularly vile, even for you.

Tell us oh genius how much less "complacent" the marathon runners and their friends and family should have been.

Feh.
 
2013-04-17 11:46:05 AM  

SkinnyHead: THX 1138: SkinnyHead: Well, I looked up "complacent" in the dictionary:  It means: "pleased, especially with oneself or one's merits, advantages, situation, etc., often without awareness of some potential danger or defect; self-satisfied."  The only thing missing was a picture of Obama.George W. Bush actively ignoring a brief entitled "Bin Laden Determined To Strike In U.S."

FTFY.

Or does that definition of "complacent" not work for you?

Well, like Sen. McConnell said, there was a sense of complacency that prevailed prior to September 11th.  He's saying that we shouldn't go back to that.


OK, as long as you have no particular opinion on what "Sen. McConnell" said, thanks for your pointless regurgitation of his equally pointless, useless, meaningless statement.

So, what level of complacency is appropriate? The level that we had on Sept 12, 2001? Maybe, instead of the terror alert color codes, we should have a "complacency alert" color code.
 
2013-04-17 12:43:53 PM  

o5iiawah: I read TFA.

Nowhere is McConnell blaming the victims for being complacent.  he's making at statement about how as Americans, we have become complacent.  Nowhere did he tie that into the victims somehow being at fault.

This is fark at its worst.


hehehehehehe
so he wasnt blaming everyone at the marathon/running the marathon (aka americans) for not being vigilant enough?? LOLOLOL
sure sounded like he was

unless you are saying boston isnt really part of america, which I am ok with ...

but turtle man is COMPLETELY correct
when was the last time a CTA train was stopped before reaching a station in order to clear a suspicious package? not for 10 years.

Until we start treating EVERY last package and bag as a potential bomb, we are not even CLOSE to vigilant enough.

/raiding the Tube really taught me how much americans take their safety for granted.
 
2013-04-17 08:38:48 PM  

namatad:

/raiding the Tube really taught me how much americans take their safety for granted.


Um, so we're SUPPOSED to live in a constant state of complete blithering terrified paranoia?

Your a idiot.
 
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