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(NBC News)   Officials to public: Send photos, video from Boston Marathon bombings. "There has to be hundreds, if not thousands, of photographs, videos and other observations that were made down at that finish line yesterday"   (usnews.nbcnews.com) divider line 237
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2013-04-16 11:30:50 AM  
I think they were bringing them out to hand out then got word of what happen and left their post. The public not realizing yet what had happen was like hey free and no one to yell "one" "only take one!".

Just what I was seeing.
 
2013-04-16 11:33:45 AM  

KimNorth: I think they were bringing them out to hand out then got word of what happen and left their post. The public not realizing yet what had happen was like hey free and no one to yell "one" "only take one!".

Just what I was seeing.


Wrong thread?
 
2013-04-16 11:46:11 AM  

dletter: KimNorth: I think they were bringing them out to hand out then got word of what happen and left their post. The public not realizing yet what had happen was like hey free and no one to yell "one" "only take one!".

Just what I was seeing.

Wrong thread?


Yes, sorry
 
2013-04-16 11:57:59 AM  
I see some sore of cool 3D VR room in which all of the photos and videos are fed into a super computer than then recreates the moment and environment 100% accurately and allows investigates to walk through the virtual crime scene, stopping and starting time in order to identify everything that occurred.

Tell me I'm right, because it sounds awesome.
 
2013-04-16 12:02:08 PM  
The guy laying on the ground with both his legs missing, and the remains of his tibias hanging open and exposed really stuck with me even today.

It's sad that the first thing I thought when I saw that was "How would I treat that guy if I had to come up on him". The only thing that saved that guy was rapid application of bilateral tourniquets  and in the civilian world - up until 3 years ago - those things were verboten.

The pictures I've been seeing today, of not just Boston EMS and medical staff rushing in, but average civilians and runners moving in to help the wounded, made me think two things: I'm proud to live in a country where people are willing to risk life and limb for nothing other than to help someone, and thank FSM this guy was too stupid to plant secondaries to target First Responders.

netizencain: I see some sore of cool 3D VR room in which all of the photos and videos are fed into a super computer than then recreates the moment and environment 100% accurately and allows investigates to walk through the virtual crime scene, stopping and starting time in order to identify everything that occurred.

Tell me I'm right, because it sounds awesome.


There are 3D mapping systems which let researchers reconstruct crime scenes down to intricate details, but I believe they are only usable in closed rooms, and are very cost prohibitive.
 
2013-04-16 12:05:00 PM  

netizencain: I see some sore of cool 3D VR room in which all of the photos and videos are fed into a super computer than then recreates the moment and environment 100% accurately and allows investigates to walk through the virtual crime scene, stopping and starting time in order to identify everything that occurred.

Tell me I'm right, because it sounds awesome.


Microsoft did something like this with the Obama inauguration, which was freely available online.
 
2013-04-16 12:10:15 PM  

netizencain: Tell me I'm right, because it sounds awesome.


CSI TV type stuff aside, there actually are number of 3D mapping devices out there that law enforcement agencies use. Our local PD has one of these:  http://www.leica-geosystems.us/forensic and it has already come in very handy on homicide cases.

I would assume the FBI, at the very least, would have something similar and has already mapped the entire area.  When compared to all the photos and video that people are sending them, they should be able to reconstruct the crime scene fairly well.
 
2013-04-16 12:11:14 PM  

Winterlight: netizencain: Tell me I'm right, because it sounds awesome.

CSI TV type stuff aside, there actually are number of 3D mapping devices out there that law enforcement agencies use. Our local PD has one of these:  http://www.leica-geosystems.us/forensic and it has already come in very handy on homicide cases.

I would assume the FBI, at the very least, would have something similar and has already mapped the entire area.  When compared to all the photos and video that people are sending them, they should be able to reconstruct the crime scene fairly well.


Really? I didn't know that stuff had matured into cost-effective and accessable technologies.

Learn something new every day!
 
2013-04-16 12:30:27 PM  
I suspect that the person(s) responsible for this will be apprehended very, very soon.  There was just wayyyy to much camera coverage in and around the area.
 
2013-04-16 12:32:59 PM  
You just know somebody is going to send them *that* picture.

You know the one... and if you don't, count your blessings.
 
2013-04-16 12:40:07 PM  

hardinparamedic: The guy laying on the ground with both his legs missing, and the remains of his tibias hanging open and exposed really stuck with me even today.


yeah.......I've heard stories about that but....no thanks.  i didn't even watch the Kevin Ware injury a few weeks ago.  i just have no stomach for that stuff.

but yeah, it does make me feel proud and humble that, as the cliche goes, "some people run from the fire, some people run towards the fire".  lots of normal folks did something heroic yesterday and that makes me feel hopeful.


netizencain: Tell me I'm right, because it sounds awesome.


yeah, i thought the same thing.

i hope they catch these farkers.  we got timothy mcveigh in a massive bombing scene, pre-internet / with no massive video presnece (smart phones, the boston freaking marathon).....i hope we catch them.

my guess is some nutbag upset about gun control.  folks today were chirping about al qaeda but i think this is classic tim mcveigh/eric rudolph type shiat.  domestic.
 
2013-04-16 12:40:10 PM  

dletter: KimNorth: I think they were bringing them out to hand out then got word of what happen and left their post. The public not realizing yet what had happen was like hey free and no one to yell "one" "only take one!".

Just what I was seeing.

Wrong thread?


And really not Engrish speaker?
 
2013-04-16 12:41:03 PM  

Donnchadha: You just know somebody is going to send them *that* picture.

You know the one... and if you don't, count your blessings.


What's Tubgirl have to do with this?
 
2013-04-16 12:41:40 PM  
hardinparamedic:
Tell me I'm right, because it sounds awesome.

There are 3D mapping systems which let researchers reconstruct crime scenes down to intricate details, but I believe they are only usable in closed rooms, and are very cost prohibitive.


If such things exist, I would imagine this is *exactly* the scenario where the expense would be justified.
 
2013-04-16 12:42:20 PM  

netizencain: I see some sore of cool 3D VR room in which all of the photos and videos are fed into a super computer than then recreates the moment and environment 100% accurately and allows investigates to walk through the virtual crime scene, stopping and starting time in order to identify everything that occurred.

Tell me I'm right, because it sounds awesome.


Something like this?.
 
2013-04-16 12:43:12 PM  

hardinparamedic: The guy laying on the ground with both his legs missing, and the remains of his tibias hanging open and exposed really stuck with me even today.

It's sad that the first thing I thought when I saw that was "How would I treat that guy if I had to come up on him". The only thing that saved that guy was rapid application of bilateral tourniquets  and in the civilian world - up until 3 years ago - those things were verboten.

The pictures I've been seeing today, of not just Boston EMS and medical staff rushing in, but average civilians and runners moving in to help the wounded, made me think two things: I'm proud to live in a country where people are willing to risk life and limb for nothing other than to help someone, and thank FSM this guy was too stupid to plant secondaries to target First Responders.

netizencain: I see some sore of cool 3D VR room in which all of the photos and videos are fed into a super computer than then recreates the moment and environment 100% accurately and allows investigates to walk through the virtual crime scene, stopping and starting time in order to identify everything that occurred.

Tell me I'm right, because it sounds awesome.

There are 3D mapping systems which let researchers reconstruct crime scenes down to intricate details, but I believe they are only usable in closed rooms, and are very cost prohibitive.


I saw an image of a guy missing at least one, if not both legs below the knee being wheeled away in a whe chair. Same guy? I think he had some kind of facial hair.
 
2013-04-16 12:44:29 PM  

Donnchadha: You just know somebody is going to send them *that* picture.

You know the one... and if you don't, count your blessings.


http://goat.se.cx/  ?
 
2013-04-16 12:44:51 PM  

Donnchadha: You just know somebody is going to send them *that* picture.

You know the one... and if you don't, count your blessings.


Goatse?
 
2013-04-16 12:45:01 PM  
Somebody out there has some incriminating video of this and they're going to be this generation's Abraham Zapruder.
 
2013-04-16 12:45:01 PM  
Crowd-Sourcing "big brother"?  You , know, that's just so crazy, it might work....
 
2013-04-16 12:46:46 PM  

Endive Wombat: I suspect that the person(s) responsible for this will be apprehended very, very soon.  There was just wayyyy to much camera coverage in and around the area.



Add to that that deep down inside they want to get caught.  Whomever did this was making some dumb-assed statement and he (or she) will want to have their say.
 
2013-04-16 12:46:47 PM  

Donnchadha: You just know somebody is going to send them *that* picture.

You know the one... and if you don't, count your blessings.


Lemonparty?
 
2013-04-16 12:47:07 PM  
If law enforcement thinks photos and videos from this year's marathon will capture incredible amounts of detail, just wait until next year.
 
2013-04-16 12:47:16 PM  

Donnchadha: You just know somebody is going to send them *that* picture.

You know the one... and if you don't, count your blessings.


I assume you mean the one where the somebody just took a picture of their junk and sent it in. If not, I will count my blessings.
 
2013-04-16 12:47:20 PM  

FARK rebel soldier: Donnchadha: You just know somebody is going to send them *that* picture.

You know the one... and if you don't, count your blessings.


Did you seriously just link to that?
 
2013-04-16 12:47:26 PM  

FARK rebel soldier: Donnchadha: You just know somebody is going to send them *that* picture.

You know the one... and if you don't, count your blessings.

http://goat.se.cx/  ?


This is Fark. I knew I would be beaten to the punch.
 
2013-04-16 12:47:54 PM  

Endive Wombat: I suspect that the person(s) responsible scapegoat for this will be apprehended very, very soon.  There was just wayyyy to much camera coverage in and around the area.


FTFY

This is 'murika we're talking about here.  Where we blame one country and bomb the living shiat out of another.
 
2013-04-16 12:48:00 PM  

Magorn: Crowd-Sourcing "big brother"?  You , know, that's just so crazy, it might work....


Helmet cams for everyone! wheee
 
2013-04-16 12:49:02 PM  
Yeah, some of those pictures are shocking! Absolutely gruesome.

I was oddly struck by how seemingly resilient the human body is because some of the photos I saw I thought those people should have been (and maybe they are) dead.
 
2013-04-16 12:49:48 PM  

Endive Wombat: I suspect that the person(s) responsible for this will be apprehended very, very soon.  There was just wayyyy to much camera coverage in and around the area.


Maybe.  Or he could have planted the bombs last night in trash cans or etc.
There could still be surveillance footage from nearby businesses pointed the right way in the hours/days prior.
 
2013-04-16 12:49:51 PM  

rickythepenguin: my guess is some nutbag upset about gun control.  folks today were chirping about al qaeda but i think this is classic tim mcveigh/eric rudolph type shiat.  domestic.


My guess is people should stop making guesses.

/I'm guessing 5K enthusiasts upset at marathon popularity.
 
2013-04-16 12:50:35 PM  
the presence of all of the video and pictures strikes me, because its unusual that these things happen directly in front of dozens of already running HD camera's, with experienced camera men behind them. it gives us a strange, surreal perspective. this isn't a case where our best reporting was from people who arrived 15-20 minutes after the event and had to set up- they were there in real time.
 
2013-04-16 12:51:18 PM  

Hack Patooey: Donnchadha: You just know somebody is going to send them *that* picture.

You know the one... and if you don't, count your blessings.

What's Tubgirl have to do with this?


Pffsss, the eels were worse.
 
2013-04-16 12:51:44 PM  
I hope they enjoy the thousands of photos they'll get of drunk Boston chicks making duck faces.
 
2013-04-16 12:52:39 PM  

berylman: Magorn: Crowd-Sourcing "big brother"?  You , know, that's just so crazy, it might work....

Helmet cams for everyone! wheee


In all seriousness it may be why nobody's claimed this yet. He or they have to know there are ten thousand photos of him planting the device...and when he gets caught, he will have zero defense.
 
2013-04-16 12:53:51 PM  

CarnySaur: I hope they enjoy the thousands of photos they'll get of drunk Boston chicks making duck faces.


That seems like an odd party atmosphere -- "Woooo! Marathon! Let's get drunk!"
 
2013-04-16 12:53:55 PM  

Magorn: Crowd-Sourcing "big brother"?  You , know, that's just so crazy, it might work....


Yeah, because if a bomber can get away with killing 8 year old children then snitches have no business helping put the murderer behind bars.
 
2013-04-16 12:54:19 PM  

tlchwi02: the presence of all of the video and pictures strikes me, because its unusual that these things happen directly in front of dozens of already running HD camera's, with experienced camera men behind them. it gives us a strange, surreal perspective. this isn't a case where our best reporting was from people who arrived 15-20 minutes after the event and had to set up- they were there in real time.


This is the new normal. People have been developing algorithms for reconstruction, etc. for specifically this purpose for a few years now.
 
2013-04-16 12:54:53 PM  

hardinparamedic: The pictures I've been seeing today, of not just Boston EMS and medical staff rushing in, but average civilians and runners moving in to help the wounded, made me think two things: I'm proud to live in a country where people are willing to risk life and limb for nothing other than to help someone, and thank FSM this guy was too stupid to plant secondaries to target First Responders.


My first thought would have been secondary explosions.  I'm not gonna lie,  I would have grabbed the nearest person who I could help and run like hell.
 
2013-04-16 12:55:06 PM  

impaler: rickythepenguin: my guess is some nutbag upset about gun control.  folks today were chirping about al qaeda but i think this is classic tim mcveigh/eric rudolph type shiat.  domestic.

My guess is people should stop making guesses.

/I'm guessing 5K enthusiasts upset at marathon popularity.


This is why it's wrong to hate certain races.

Why cant the 5k and 10k people just get along?
 
2013-04-16 12:55:09 PM  

Donnchadha: CarnySaur: I hope they enjoy the thousands of photos they'll get of drunk Boston chicks making duck faces.

That seems like an odd party atmosphere -- "Woooo! Marathon! Let's get drunk!"


Uh, have you been to Boston ever?
 
2013-04-16 12:55:43 PM  

hardinparamedic: The guy laying on the ground with both his legs missing, and the remains of his tibias hanging open and exposed really stuck with me even today.

It's sad that the first thing I thought when I saw that was "How would I treat that guy if I had to come up on him". The only thing that saved that guy was rapid application of bilateral tourniquets  and in the civilian world - up until 3 years ago - those things were verboten.

The pictures I've been seeing today, of not just Boston EMS and medical staff rushing in, but average civilians and runners moving in to help the wounded, made me think two things: I'm proud to live in a country where people are willing to risk life and limb for nothing other than to help someone, and thank FSM this guy was too stupid to plant secondaries to target First Responders.

netizencain: I see some sore of cool 3D VR room in which all of the photos and videos are fed into a super computer than then recreates the moment and environment 100% accurately and allows investigates to walk through the virtual crime scene, stopping and starting time in order to identify everything that occurred.

Tell me I'm right, because it sounds awesome.

There are 3D mapping systems which let researchers reconstruct crime scenes down to intricate details, but I believe they are only usable in closed rooms, and are very cost prohibitive.


Hate to say it, but I think that's why there were TWO bombs, the numbnuts who planted them just sucked at making timers.   The fact that marathons are well -staffed by medical personnel is probably the only reason the death toll was not MUCH higher.   Those who lost limbs had probably 30-45 seconds to get treatment before they fatally bled out.  It takes a very special kind of person to A) figure out that these people need an immediate tourniquet  B) know how to do that effectively and most importantly  C) possess the trained nerves and relfex to overcome the blind panic instincts of a moment like that and instead drop into "go time" mode

I've trained enough to say I could do A) and might even have a decent chance of doing B) in a pinch, but  C)? doubtful.  I've thank god never had to test it, but an honest self-assesment tells me  it questionable wherther I have the stuff deep inside for that.

 Mom does,  she turned 75 yesterday, has been a nurse for 50+ years now, and in my youth I watched he transform from "Mom" to "combat medic" when the situation called for it (such as happening upon the scene of a car accident before the first repsonders arrived).  it's a pretty special skill, and I don;t think we say thank you enough to the folks that have it.
 
2013-04-16 12:57:05 PM  
I just had a serious moment of panic while sitting here at work and seeing the GOATSE url, as if it was going to spring onto all three monitors on my desktop unclicked and then be stuck there while everyone in the office slowly turns and looks.
 
2013-04-16 12:57:11 PM  

Winterlight: netizencain: Tell me I'm right, because it sounds awesome.

CSI TV type stuff aside, there actually are number of 3D mapping devices out there that law enforcement agencies use. Our local PD has one of these:  http://www.leica-geosystems.us/forensic and it has already come in very handy on homicide cases.

I would assume the FBI, at the very least, would have something similar and has already mapped the entire area.  When compared to all the photos and video that people are sending them, they should be able to reconstruct the crime scene fairly well.


Ha! My wife used to work for that company, until they sold off her division.
 
2013-04-16 12:58:34 PM  

Donnchadha: You just know somebody is going to send them *that* picture.

You know the one... and if you don't, count your blessings.


my cousin posted it on his FB wall and it showed up in my feed.  JESUS!
 
2013-04-16 12:58:41 PM  

Magorn: Hate to say it, but I think that's why there were TWO bombs, the numbnuts who planted them just sucked at making timers.


I don't know about that... They weren't really  that big, and they were too far apart to target the same people. I think it's more likely that they were supposed to go off simultaneously, and one of them happened to be a little lower in the queue for receiving the SMS trigger message or something. A 5-10 second delay is pretty reasonable there.
 
2013-04-16 01:00:21 PM  

Donnchadha: You just know somebody is going to send them *that* picture.

You know the one... and if you don't, count your blessings.


Goatse???
 
2013-04-16 01:00:37 PM  
Alternate headline:

Officials: BIE, EIP
 
2013-04-16 01:01:16 PM  

meddleRPI: Donnchadha: CarnySaur: I hope they enjoy the thousands of photos they'll get of drunk Boston chicks making duck faces.

That seems like an odd party atmosphere -- "Woooo! Marathon! Let's get drunk!"

Uh, have you been to Boston ever?


At the tail-end of this voyeur upskirt video, you can see a suspicious man in a hoodie!
 
2013-04-16 01:01:43 PM  

netizencain: I see some sore of cool 3D VR room in which all of the photos and videos are fed into a super computer than then recreates the moment and environment 100% accurately and allows investigates to walk through the virtual crime scene, stopping and starting time in order to identify everything that occurred.

Tell me I'm right, because it sounds awesome.


That was part of the plot of the SciFi novel "Great North Road", which built up a huge model of near future Newcastle from CCTV footage and other sensors to track a particular taxi-cab (problem: all taxis look the same and the taxi of interest engaged in practices to foil tracking).

upload.wikimedia.org
 
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