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(Think Progress)   If you guessed "one day" before someone would claim that, unlike Obama, Bush "kept us safe for 8 years," step forward and claim your 9/11 commemorative prize   (thinkprogress.org) divider line 43
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2013-04-16 11:01:09 AM
17 votes:
I'm a resident of Boston. I don't expect Barack Obama or Deval Patrick to keep me safe from some random nutter anymore than I expect the green line to run on time.

I've chosen to live my life in this way, in this place, and I- and hundreds of thousands of other Massholes- will not change our way of life because of this nutter.

I'm done being sad. I'm done being scared. This asshole set off a bomb near the Boston Public Library. Now I'm farking furious.
2013-04-16 12:16:23 PM
12 votes:
OK conservatives, we need to talk.  We, by which I mean the center and the left, let you have that one.  You're welcome.  We let you have that one not because we agreed with it, or thought it was even close to basic reality.  We let you have that one because we were all so very done with Bush and company.  The previous 8 years were traumatizing as hell to us.  Your man-child preznit absolutely drove this country into the ground.  The US was a flaming wreck when he turned the keys over to Obama.  Depression, jobs crisis, banking crisis, real estate crisis, two wars being lost.  We were done.  We were done with him, we were done fighting with you over him, we were done explaining to you how truly awful he was on every possible level.  We realized that you needed to have some shred of substance to hang your hat onto, to claim that you hadn't foisted a complete and total incompetent jackass onto the most powerful nation on Earth.  So when you claimed that he "kept America safe", we just rolled our eyes and just waited for Obama to take office.  We remember him totally ignoring the pre 9/11 warnings.  We remember how he didn't catch any of the anthrax mailers. We remember the multiple embassy attacks (but Benghazi!!). we remember Jim David Adkisson, Mohammed Reza, the Beltway Sniper, the Seattle Jewish Federation shootings, the LAX shootings, and all the people in Iraq that hate the US with every fibre of their being because the US killed their family members.

But if you really want to re-litigate this one, we're happy to do so.  No, he did not keep us safe, and fark you for even trying to whip that one past us.
2013-04-16 11:24:55 AM
8 votes:

the_rev: what_now: This asshole set off a bomb near the Boston Public Library. Now I'm farking furious.

Not being smartass here... but... it was the bomb's proximity to a library that you find upsetting?


I find the whole thing upsetting. This is a special day- a celebration of the Revolutionary War, a random holiday that only we have, the Marathon, a 11am Red Sox game (played early enough in the season that we all still have some hope), and a street party. This is when spring starts in Boston.

This Marathon isn't just Kenyens and crazy hardcore runners, it's regular people who spend a year preparing for this for a charity- a friend of mine is 6"5; and 250lbs and a few years ago he finished, because he was running for a cause.

The finish line is right outside the oldest public library in the country for a reason.  "The Commonwealth Requires the Education of the People as the Safeguard of Order and Liberty".
2013-04-16 11:01:25 AM
4 votes:
Pamela Geller @pamelagellerJihad in Boston: 12 dead, 50 injured ...... horrific Boston Marathon bombing

Facts all wrong and jumping to a conclusion.  Doesn't surprise me coming from that witch.
2013-04-16 12:17:49 PM
3 votes:
Bush "kept us* safe for 8 years,"

* "Us* does not apply to anyone in the Armed Forces, their families, dependents, friends, or any other person possibly impacted by adverse events in unnecessary, ill-conceived, and/or fraudulent military operations.**

** 'Us' also obviously does NOT include any of 'THEM',  those with the wrong religion, language, skin-tone, nationality, home address and/or attitude toward being invaded, bombed, droned, shot at, wounded, killed and/or displaced during afore mentioned unnecessary, ill-conceived and/or fraudulent military operations.
2013-04-16 12:05:09 PM
3 votes:
I reiterate: there are going to be a LOT of folks looking to score points over the next few weeks, and slathering at the chance to do so, and it would be satisfying as f*ck if we didn't give them the satisfaction, by ignoring their DERP and putting it into perspective for them...
2013-04-16 12:00:58 PM
3 votes:

Lawyers With Nukes: We're lucky it wasn't an Iranian drone. If they followed our POTUS's standard operating procedure, the first responders on scene would have been "double tapped."

Disgusting? Why yes, it most certainly is.

Meanwhile, we focus on blathering bungholes and their finger pointing, and their quest for advertising revenue.


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2013-04-16 11:10:38 AM
3 votes:

ManateeGag: so, who has the list of attacks after 9/11 but before Obama took office ready?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States#2000s
2013-04-16 11:06:49 AM
3 votes:
Actually, I think it took less than 10 minutes
2013-04-16 10:56:31 AM
3 votes:

FlashHarry: didn't dana perino claim that once too? wtf is wrong with these people?


So did Rudy "Captain 9/11" Guiliani.
2013-04-16 10:55:18 AM
3 votes:
didn't dana perino claim that once too? wtf is wrong with these people?
2013-04-16 01:15:04 PM
2 votes:

dericwater: dericwater: rufus-t-firefly: If you average the deaths due to the 9/11 attacks (2,977)out over his entire presidency, you'll see how safe we were.

He only had 1.02 deaths per day. That's pretty good.

Is that over the course of the 8 years he was in office or the 5.5 years of him working in office and not on vacation clearing brush on his ranch?

Serious question here: now that GW Bush is "retired" and is learning how to paint. Does he ever go somewhere to clear brush? Does he still have that ranch and does he ever go there and clear any of the brush?


No.  The ranch was never anything more than a prop to boost his "real 'merkin" image for the rubes.  Obama had barely crossed the threshold of the White House before Bush dumped that place.  He bought a $2 million house in one of the fanciest neighborhoods in Dallas.  Anyone from Texas knows he was full of shiat from the beginning.  Nobody clears brush in Texas in August unless you're a farking moron.
2013-04-16 12:42:29 PM
2 votes:
images.nationalgeographic.com
What America kept safe may look like.
2013-04-16 12:29:56 PM
2 votes:
America was pretty safe until just after Bush the lesser gained the throne of the President.

Would the Saudis of destroyed the two towers if a Democratic had been President?

Would the world be safer if the CIA had not been created to fark it up?

If Christianity had not murdered millions of Middle Eastern people in the search for Jebus, would they not be so pissed off at Christians?

/Questions that no one is willing to ask in the mainline news.
//Time to have a clear talk on how the rightwing is getting more dangerous because of Foxnews and the Limbaughs of the U.S.
2013-04-16 12:09:49 PM
2 votes:

lennavan: There are an awful lot of news stories and attention paid to the Boston Marathon bombing, where (144? 176?) people were injured and 3 people died.  That was terror, demanded an immediate response and a statement from the POTUS.

Last weekend 26 people were shot in Chicago and 4 of them died.  235 people are shot and 33 people are murdered (on average) every day in the US.

I'm not saying what happened in Boston isn't bad.  But I don't understand how last weekend we felt safe and now suddenly we no longer feel safe.  It sure seems like we tolerate an awful lot of some sorts of violence whereas other types are super outrageous scary.


It's not a numbers thing. Remember the Beltway Sniper? 10 people shot in Washington, DC (and around) over 3 weeks. Not far off of the normal pace for DC. Yet it was much more frightening for people there than the usual run-of-the-mill violence. It's psychological and the run-of-the-mill shootings are generally concentrated in certain areas in an urban environment. No one expects people to die watching a marathon. Walking around bad parts of DC at night... not so surprising
2013-04-16 12:09:02 PM
2 votes:
It's funny how the people who tell us to "never forget" always seem to forget.
2013-04-16 12:07:48 PM
2 votes:
Clearly we need to equip the runners with bombs of their own. The only response to a bomb is another bomb
2013-04-16 12:01:47 PM
2 votes:
There are an awful lot of news stories and attention paid to the Boston Marathon bombing, where (144? 176?) people were injured and 3 people died.  That was terror, demanded an immediate response and a statement from the POTUS.

Last weekend 26 people were shot in Chicago and 4 of them died.  235 people are shot and 33 people are murdered (on average) every day in the US.

I'm not saying what happened in Boston isn't bad.  But I don't understand how last weekend we felt safe and now suddenly we no longer feel safe.  It sure seems like we tolerate an awful lot of some sorts of violence whereas other types are super outrageous scary.
2013-04-16 11:59:32 AM
2 votes:

Uranus Is Huge!: Foundling: During exactly which eight years did Bush keep us safe?

Sometime before 1492?

Florida wasn't attacked once while Jeb was governor.

/I know. He specified 'George'. Maybe he's referring to HW's tenure as CIA Director.
//Nope. He's just a derp volcano in the midst of an eruption.


Hang on - I've got it.

George H.W. Bush (1 term)
George W. Bush (only counting 2nd term).

George Bush kept us safe for 8 years.
2013-04-16 11:59:11 AM
2 votes:
I can't wait until Fartbongo's National Security Advisor goes before Congress and testifies about why they ignored that presidential daily briefing memo from about a month ago that was entitled "[NAME OF PERSON RESPONSIBLE] DETERMINED TO ATTACK BOSTON MARATHON CROWD BY PLACING HOME MADE BOMBS AT FINISH LINE."  Of course, he's not as attractive as Condoleeza Rice, so it probably won't get any coverage on the liberal media when he does.
2013-04-16 11:45:50 AM
2 votes:
Erik Rush, Pamela Gellar, Jennifer Rubin, Alex Jones.

Yeah those people are total assholes.
2013-04-16 11:44:36 AM
2 votes:

ManateeGag: so, who has the list of attacks after 9/11 but before Obama took office ready?


Sadly, it doesn't matter.  You can beat them over the head with that list.  You can carve every item on that list into their skin.  They will always forget because it's politically convenient for them to do so.

Why people still consider these willfully ignorant morons worthy of anyone's time says a hell of a lot about the current intellectual state of America as a whole.
2013-04-17 08:47:47 AM
1 votes:

machoprogrammer: Seriously, you can't have it both ways. IMO, neither president is responsible. Shiat happens


well, if we find that obama's natsec advisor received a briefing entitled "terrorists plan to blow up boston marathon" and ignored it... then we'll talk about responsibility.

but, yes, shiat happens.
2013-04-17 08:45:56 AM
1 votes:

machoprogrammer: So, it looks like the thread is as follows:

The Democrat nuthuggers on 9/11: OMG BUSH FARKED UP! WHAT A DOLT! LOL!
The Democrat nuthuggers now: No way Obama farked up. It would just be pure derp to claim that!

Seriously, you can't have it both ways. IMO, neither president is responsible. Shiat happens


uh, no - i believe this is in response to a moron who tweeted that this is obama's fault and bush kept us safe for eight years.
2013-04-16 03:45:24 PM
1 votes:

skullkrusher: HighOnCraic: whidbey: aspAddict: It's interesting that for the last 11 years, we have been told "We hafta go to war against al Qaida/terrorists/brown people with towels on their heads, they are TEH DEBIL and want to kill us all!" It's been drilled into us for over a decade that THEY are the enemy and that our Glorious Leaders are the only thing standing between us and a turban wrapped nuke showing up in our morning coffee.

Then an attack happens. Bombs go off. People are hurt and killed, and our Weeners is "Prolly terrorist Muslim radicals" and people are shocked - SHOCKED I say - at this jump to a conclusion. We have been conditioned for years to believe that "seekrit all kayak" is everywhere, lurking in the shadows, climbin' in our windows, snatchin' our people up, tryin' ta rape 'em.

In the 70's/80's, it was Russia - they had subs sitting just out of our reach with huge missiles pointed at our moms for years. They had secret spies waiting to blow up our dams, meltdown our reactors, and reset all of our VCRs so that they flash "12:00" again. THEY were the enemy. If anything bad happened, the first thought in our heads was, "It was probably the Russians."

You can't indoctrinate a culture to believe one thing, then act surprised when they follow that "training." That would be like Fatty Kim yelling at his citizens for accusing Americans of something evil after they have been brainwashed for half a century to believe that we are Satan's minions.

Also, to Alex Jones - you never go full retard.

It's totally OKC all over again. It'll be a rigtht-wing white guy. History repeats the old conceits.

I've got a feeling you're gonna get a lotta grief for saying that...

oh, it's totally OKC all over again. All the hallmarks are there. Federal Government bui... oh crap. My theory broke


It's ok, even if it was a federal building in Oklahoma City again, Captain Semantics here would whine that there aren't 7 floors on this building this time, there's 9, so it doesn't count and isn't at all the same.

//not saying one way or the other that this is like OKC, just saying that you're love of pedantry is legendary
2013-04-16 03:38:31 PM
1 votes:
9/11 happens... The majority of the country rallies around President Bush. His approval rating goes to 90%

Marathon bombing happens... Obama is already being attacked for not keeping us safe.

Yes, both side are totally teh bad.
2013-04-16 02:55:45 PM
1 votes:
Limbaugh was asking the question today, after a lengthy recap of the Bill Ayers narrative, why nobody was asking if this was a left-wing group?

Um, because left-wing groups haven't been threatening or insinuating the need for insurrection and violence since day one of the black guy's term as president?
2013-04-16 01:54:53 PM
1 votes:

skullkrusher: coeyagi: skullkrusher: FlashHarry: [i50.tinypic.com image 435x502]

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/downvote

11.5 years when converted to Fark years = too soon.

unfunny shiat is just unfunny. You know all about that though


The "Your sh*t ain't funny" response will really get you pretty far at Open Mic night though.
2013-04-16 01:47:03 PM
1 votes:
12 embassy attacks under Bush.

3 under Obama.

Thanks for keeping everyone safe, Bush!
2013-04-16 01:20:56 PM
1 votes:

Epoch_Zero: CygnusDarius: You sir, you are awesome.

what_now is one of the most respected vagina-americans on fark.

MinkeyMan: Epoch_Zero: There's no reason we can't live in a free society where we are also assured against being blown to smithereens.

There is no society in which you can be "assured against being blown to smithereens".

Well, a society where it is unthinkably rare. Mister technical.

Pants full of macaroni!!: "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance."  ~ can't remember who said it

"We live in colonial times and are huge idealogues" - some old guy who wrote some deep shiat

skullkrusher: Epoch_Zero: Gyrfalcon: skullkrusher: can we stop pretending that in order to maintain a free society where rights are (largely) respected, this is not going to be the price to pay from time to time regardless of who is in office?

I've said that since Oklahoma City, but I'm in the minority on that sentiment.

There's no reason we can't live in a free society where we are also assured against being blown to smithereens.

yes there is

Nope. No excuse for it.


Please describe, specifically, how bombings may be infallibly averted without implementation of authoritarian policies.
2013-04-16 12:35:02 PM
1 votes:
I get the feeling I'm going to be deleting some people from Facebook.
2013-04-16 12:34:06 PM
1 votes:
ummm I seem to recall something like 4,000+ Americans being killed by "terrorists" that largely employed exactly this method of attack: improvised explosive devices.

The fact that under Bush we very conveniently had a delivery option where we'd send the Americans to the terrorists rather than making them come here doesn't in any way mitgate the body count or the president's responsibility
2013-04-16 12:19:34 PM
1 votes:

Dr Dreidel: Bush kept us safe for 7 years, 4 months.


Oh, really?
2013-04-16 12:04:55 PM
1 votes:

rufus-t-firefly: If you average the deaths due to the 9/11 attacks (2,977)out over his entire presidency, you'll see how safe we were.

He only had 1.02 deaths per day. That's pretty good.


You need to include the deaths from FEMA's gross mismanagement of Hurricane Katrina, as well as the American military and Iraqi civilian deaths that happened as a result of Operation Daddy Didn't Hug Me When I Was A Baby.

If you include those, the average is a bit higher than 1.02 deaths per day under Bush.

/and that's just counting the dead
//it doesn't include the injured
///or the trillions of dollars wasted
////including the pallets of cash that were sent there
2013-04-16 12:00:43 PM
1 votes:

Dimensio: Pants full of macaroni!!: Diogenes: Pamela Geller @pamelagellerJihad in Boston: 12 dead, 50 injured ...... horrific Boston Marathon bombing

Facts all wrong and jumping to a conclusion.  Doesn't surprise me coming from that witch.

Have any of the usual folks started saying "There were 12 killed, NY Post said so, the Boston PD is still claiming only 3, WHAT ARE THE BPD HIDING?????" yet?

The government is hiding its secret resurrection technology.


That's because many of the Lazarus Pits pull a Pet Sematary on users.  I am given to understand, until the terrible bicycle accident on his twelfth birthday, despite his family connections, Li'l Dickie Cheney was quite a nice, gentle child with a soft voice who regularly cared for the neighborhood stray animals, stood up to bullies without using violence, and once organized a balloon fair for childhood leukemia patients.
2013-04-16 11:59:45 AM
1 votes:
Say, wasn't *Dead or Alive* OBL out of Kandahar, December, 2001? And then Bush held up sending the cavalry into Tora Bora, early, 2002? And a few weeks after that, Bush: OBL not that important anymore.
2013-04-16 11:50:14 AM
1 votes:

the_rev: what_now: This asshole set off a bomb near the Boston Public Library. Now I'm farking furious.

Not being smartass here... but... it was the bomb's proximity to a library that you find upsetting?


because some places tend to have more children near them, esp during the day.
because some places have the veneer of being "safer". the grocery store, the safe neighborhood that you live in, church.

if you get mugged in a dark alley, in a gang infested area, late at night, walking alone, drunk; well no one is surprised. but when a bomb goes off in church on sunday, during sunday school; people think that this is the safest place on earth.

this is why terrorism is effective, it removes "safe" our regular lives.
2013-04-16 11:48:30 AM
1 votes:

Esc7: Now that's a cool library.



When we find the guy, we will make him jump off the roof

blog.aia.org
2013-04-16 11:42:44 AM
1 votes:

Dr Dreidel: But math is not their strong suit.


You're allowed to round up to the nearest whole number.
2013-04-16 11:42:41 AM
1 votes:

what_now: the_rev: what_now: This asshole set off a bomb near the Boston Public Library. Now I'm farking furious.

Not being smartass here... but... it was the bomb's proximity to a library that you find upsetting?

I find the whole thing upsetting. This is a special day- a celebration of the Revolutionary War, a random holiday that only we have, the Marathon, a 11am Red Sox game (played early enough in the season that we all still have some hope), and a street party. This is when spring starts in Boston.

This Marathon isn't just Kenyens and crazy hardcore runners, it's regular people who spend a year preparing for this for a charity- a friend of mine is 6"5; and 250lbs and a few years ago he finished, because he was running for a cause.

The finish line is right outside the oldest public library in the country for a reason.  "The Commonwealth Requires the Education of the People as the Safeguard of Order and Liberty".


Now that's a cool library.
2013-04-16 11:41:33 AM
1 votes:
That dude works for Breitbart.
2013-04-16 11:21:22 AM
1 votes:

Diogenes: Patrick Dollard @PatDollardGEORGE BUSH KEPT US SAFE FOR 8 7.5 YEARS AND ONCE AGAINBARACKOBAMA FAILS AS TERRORISTS BOMB BOSTON MARATHON


But math is not their strong suit.

// Ben
// ghazi
// potato it out
2013-04-16 11:13:22 AM
1 votes:
Patrick Dollard @PatDollardGEORGE BUSH KEPT US SAFE FOR 8 YEARS AND ONCE AGAINBARACKOBAMA FAILS AS TERRORISTS BOMB BOSTON MARATHON

And yet he couldn't keep us safe from 9/11 in the first place, even when he had the intelligence to do so.

I have always found this line of thinking supremely perverse.
 
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