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2013-04-16 12:45:31 PM  

Magorn: what_now: the_rev: what_now: This asshole set off a bomb near the Boston Public Library. Now I'm farking furious.

Not being smartass here... but... it was the bomb's proximity to a library that you find upsetting?

I find the whole thing upsetting. This is a special day- a celebration of the Revolutionary War, a random holiday that only we have, the Marathon, a 11am Red Sox game (played early enough in the season that we all still have some hope), and a street party. This is when spring starts in Boston.

This Marathon isn't just Kenyens and crazy hardcore runners, it's regular people who spend a year preparing for this for a charity- a friend of mine is 6"5; and 250lbs and a few years ago he finished, because he was running for a cause.

The finish line is right outside the oldest public library in the country for a reason.  "The Commonwealth Requires the Education of the People as the Safeguard of Order and Liberty".

SO decoding these clues we can build a profile of the Bomber based on the symbolism of what he attacked and when:

He attacked on Patriot's day, in an area rich with revolutionary symbolismm,  so clearly he's an Anti-American foreigner.  His bombs went off at the 26th mile, which was dedicated to the 26 victims of Newtown, so clearly he's a gun-rights nut/Sandy Hook denier.  His attack occured on April 15th -tax day  so he must have hated paying taxes.  The bombs exploded right near all the international flags  so he hates furriners and the UN.  He attacked outside the oldest public library in the country so he clearly hates both books AND socialism, and of course he interfered with a SOX game, so obviously he's a Yankee fan.

Putting all that into the Bat computer clearly tells me we are looking a Fundamentalist Muslim jihadist Tea Party member, who is also a "young earth" creationist and a white supremacist...how hard can THAT guy be to find?


or just a Yankees fan. Those people are evil and stupid

/+1 for the post though
 
2013-04-16 12:46:53 PM  

Magorn: what_now: the_rev: what_now: This asshole set off a bomb near the Boston Public Library. Now I'm farking furious.

Not being smartass here... but... it was the bomb's proximity to a library that you find upsetting?

I find the whole thing upsetting. This is a special day- a celebration of the Revolutionary War, a random holiday that only we have, the Marathon, a 11am Red Sox game (played early enough in the season that we all still have some hope), and a street party. This is when spring starts in Boston.

This Marathon isn't just Kenyens and crazy hardcore runners, it's regular people who spend a year preparing for this for a charity- a friend of mine is 6"5; and 250lbs and a few years ago he finished, because he was running for a cause.

The finish line is right outside the oldest public library in the country for a reason.  "The Commonwealth Requires the Education of the People as the Safeguard of Order and Liberty".

SO decoding these clues we can build a profile of the Bomber based on the symbolism of what he attacked and when:

He attacked on Patriot's day, in an area rich with revolutionary symbolismm,  so clearly he's an Anti-American foreigner.  His bombs went off at the 26th mile, which was dedicated to the 26 victims of Newtown, so clearly he's a gun-rights nut/Sandy Hook denier.  His attack occured on April 15th -tax day  so he must have hated paying taxes.  The bombs exploded right near all the international flags  so he hates furriners and the UN.  He attacked outside the oldest public library in the country so he clearly hates both books AND socialism, and of course he interfered with a SOX game, so obviously he's a Yankee fan.

Putting all that into the Bat computer clearly tells me we are looking a Fundamentalist Muslim jihadist Tea Party member, who is also a "young earth" creationist and a white supremacist...how hard can THAT guy be to find?


Lol. The Sox game was over, but other than that...
 
2013-04-16 12:47:45 PM  
They have to get out in front of it quick in case it was a teabagger.

Then the narrative shifts to how Obama pushed them to do it.
 
2013-04-16 12:55:58 PM  

rufus-t-firefly: lennavan: There are an awful lot of news stories and attention paid to the Boston Marathon bombing, where (144? 176?) people were injured and 3 people died.  That was terror, demanded an immediate response and a statement from the POTUS.

Last weekend 26 people were shot in Chicago and 4 of them died.  235 people are shot and 33 people are murdered (on average) every day in the US.

I'm not saying what happened in Boston isn't bad.  But I don't understand how last weekend we felt safe and now suddenly we no longer feel safe.  It sure seems like we tolerate an awful lot of some sorts of violence whereas other types are super outrageous scary.

But guns are FREEDOM.



I don't really want that to be jacked by a guns discussion.  More of a "why is this so different than all of the other types of deaths" discussion.
 
2013-04-16 12:56:45 PM  

Dr Dreidel: If we're going to be pedantic, Jan-Sep 2001 is 8 months, meaning Bush kept us safe for 7 years, 4 months. Closest whole number would be 7, not 8; I rounded to the nearest .5.

// ignoring that Bush was president for half a day on the 20th, and counting the "short month" from 20AUG-11SEP as 1


I was promised there would be no math.
 
2013-04-16 12:58:42 PM  

actualhuman: Pants full of macaroni!!: Diogenes: Pamela Geller @pamelagellerJihad in Boston: 12 dead, 50 injured ...... horrific Boston Marathon bombing

Facts all wrong and jumping to a conclusion.  Doesn't surprise me coming from that witch.

Have any of the usual folks started saying "There were 12 killed, NY Post said so, the Boston PD is still claiming only 3, WHAT ARE THE BPD HIDING?????" yet?

Oh yes. I checked one of my other favorite web communities last night and they already had nutballs complaining of 'suspiciously cogent' eyewitness reports.


What does that even mean?
 
2013-04-16 12:58:50 PM  

yeegrek: OK conservatives, we need to talk.  We, by which I mean the center and the left, let you have that one.  You're welcome.  We let you have that one not because we agreed with it, or thought it was even close to basic reality.  We let you have that one because we were all so very done with Bush and company.  The previous 8 years were traumatizing as hell to us.  Your man-child preznit absolutely drove this country into the ground.  The US was a flaming wreck when he turned the keys over to Obama.  Depression, jobs crisis, banking crisis, real estate crisis, two wars being lost.  We were done.  We were done with him, we were done fighting with you over him, we were done explaining to you how truly awful he was on every possible level.  We realized that you needed to have some shred of substance to hang your hat onto, to claim that you hadn't foisted a complete and total incompetent jackass onto the most powerful nation on Earth.  So when you claimed that he "kept America safe", we just rolled our eyes and just waited for Obama to take office.  We remember him totally ignoring the pre 9/11 warnings.  We remember how he didn't catch any of the anthrax mailers. We remember the multiple embassy attacks (but Benghazi!!). we remember Jim David Adkisson, Mohammed Reza, the Beltway Sniper, the Seattle Jewish Federation shootings, the LAX shootings, and all the people in Iraq that hate the US with every fibre of their being because the US killed their family members.

But if you really want to re-litigate this one, we're happy to do so.  No, he did not keep us safe, and fark you for even trying to whip that one past us.


This is probably the best, most readable, and most accurate summary of the whole situation that I've seen.  Nice job.  Please bring it to the TF political threads for a free month, and don't be a lurker!
 
2013-04-16 01:00:36 PM  

palelizard: lennavan: There are an awful lot of news stories and attention paid to the Boston Marathon bombing, where (144? 176?) people were injured and 3 people died.  That was terror, demanded an immediate response and a statement from the POTUS.

Last weekend 26 people were shot in Chicago and 4 of them died.  235 people are shot and 33 people are murdered (on average) every day in the US.

I'm not saying what happened in Boston isn't bad.  But I don't understand how last weekend we felt safe and now suddenly we no longer feel safe.  It sure seems like we tolerate an awful lot of some sorts of violence whereas other types are super outrageous scary.

I think it's because people can rationalize away gun injuries/deaths. Ignoring the accidents, people can, in their head (regardless of truthiness), blame the victim.  "Oh, you made poor life choices to be in a gang"... "Oh, you shouldn't have gone to that bar and started some shiat over a pool table"... "Oh you shouldn't be growing up poor in a bad neighborhood"... "shouldn't have slept with your husband's brother".

Gun violence is typically one on one (or a few).  Terrorism, by nature, is against many and indiscriminate, which means there doesn't have to be a (rationalized) reason in anyone's head for them to be a target.


Yeah I think that's a really good point.  Maybe it's not just that people rationalize away but also you can tell yourself what you are doing differently to make yourself feel safe.  I think you may have hit that one on the head for what I was considering but wish you had left out the guns angle.  I didn't want it to be just about guns, it's more about what do we find shocking versus what we basically ignore.  So for instance, that's why the DC sniper or Sandy Hook shootings were so shocking.  They were against many and seemingly indiscriminate.
 
2013-04-16 01:02:08 PM  

skullkrusher: can we stop pretending that in order to maintain a free society where rights are (largely) respected, this is not going to be the price to pay from time to time regardless of who is in office?


I've said that since Oklahoma City, but I'm in the minority on that sentiment.
 
2013-04-16 01:02:42 PM  

skullkrusher: lennavan: There are an awful lot of news stories and attention paid to the Boston Marathon bombing, where (144? 176?) people were injured and 3 people died.  That was terror, demanded an immediate response and a statement from the POTUS.

Last weekend 26 people were shot in Chicago and 4 of them died.  235 people are shot and 33 people are murdered (on average) every day in the US.

I'm not saying what happened in Boston isn't bad.  But I don't understand how last weekend we felt safe and now suddenly we no longer feel safe.  It sure seems like we tolerate an awful lot of some sorts of violence whereas other types are super outrageous scary.

It's not a numbers thing. Remember the Beltway Sniper? 10 people shot in Washington, DC (and around) over 3 weeks. Not far off of the normal pace for DC. Yet it was much more frightening for people there than the usual run-of-the-mill violence. It's psychological and the run-of-the-mill shootings are generally concentrated in certain areas in an urban environment. No one expects people to die watching a marathon. Walking around bad parts of DC at night... not so surprising



Whoops, I should have read this post before my previous one.  My bad.
 
2013-04-16 01:03:09 PM  
I have considered the outcome of the bombing, studying it out. While only three individuals died, more than one-hundred were injured, and many of them are afflicted with injuries that will remain with them for the rest of their lives.

As such, now more than one-hundred people will be facing substantial medical bills, and many of them will be facing those expenses for many years to come.

Obviously, then, this bombing was committed by an individual attempting to advocate health care reform.
 
2013-04-16 01:03:57 PM  
Turning this into party warfare is not good.

No sane person should say every attempt to cause trouble will be stopped.  No matter who is in the White House something will occasionally happen. It's flat-out impossible to keep 330,000,000+ people under surveillance.  Freaks will find ways to do something stupid.
 
2013-04-16 01:05:09 PM  

Gyrfalcon: skullkrusher: can we stop pretending that in order to maintain a free society where rights are (largely) respected, this is not going to be the price to pay from time to time regardless of who is in office?

I've said that since Oklahoma City, but I'm in the minority on that sentiment.


you're also a decent human being on Fark. You are like a one-eyed, 6-toed Albino Black Mexican Eskimo Lesbian
 
2013-04-16 01:05:16 PM  

lennavan: rufus-t-firefly: lennavan: There are an awful lot of news stories and attention paid to the Boston Marathon bombing, where (144? 176?) people were injured and 3 people died.  That was terror, demanded an immediate response and a statement from the POTUS.

Last weekend 26 people were shot in Chicago and 4 of them died.  235 people are shot and 33 people are murdered (on average) every day in the US.

I'm not saying what happened in Boston isn't bad.  But I don't understand how last weekend we felt safe and now suddenly we no longer feel safe.  It sure seems like we tolerate an awful lot of some sorts of violence whereas other types are super outrageous scary.

But guns are FREEDOM.

I don't really want that to be jacked by a guns discussion.  More of a "why is this so different than all of the other types of deaths" discussion.


I suspect there's a psychological term for this, but I can't recall the name. Something like the law of squares maybe?

Those shootings in Chicago and across the country are typically small-scale events that only involve one casualty at a time. Supposing somebody knew about every single one of those gun attacks on a single day, you'd be affected by about 200 units, or one per attack.

In contrast, the Boston bombing was a massive event that created almost 200 casualties at once. You're affected by that one attack about 200*200=40,000 units.
 
2013-04-16 01:05:50 PM  

Gyrfalcon: skullkrusher: can we stop pretending that in order to maintain a free society where rights are (largely) respected, this is not going to be the price to pay from time to time regardless of who is in office?

I've said that since Oklahoma City, but I'm in the minority on that sentiment.


There's no reason we can't live in a free society where we are also assured against being blown to smithereens.
 
2013-04-16 01:06:42 PM  

Epoch_Zero: Gyrfalcon: skullkrusher: can we stop pretending that in order to maintain a free society where rights are (largely) respected, this is not going to be the price to pay from time to time regardless of who is in office?

I've said that since Oklahoma City, but I'm in the minority on that sentiment.

There's no reason we can't live in a free society where we are also assured against being blown to smithereens.


yes there is
 
2013-04-16 01:07:10 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: Dr Dreidel: If we're going to be pedantic, Jan-Sep 2001 is 8 months, meaning Bush kept us safe for 7 years, 4 months. Closest whole number would be 7, not 8; I rounded to the nearest .5.

// ignoring that Bush was president for half a day on the 20th, and counting the "short month" from 20AUG-11SEP as 1

I was promised there would be no math.


Was that a promise, or did you just believe what you wanted to believe?
 
2013-04-16 01:07:33 PM  

what_now: I'm a resident of Boston. I don't expect Barack Obama or Deval Patrick to keep me safe from some random nutter anymore than I expect the green line to run on time.

I've chosen to live my life in this way, in this place, and I- and hundreds of thousands of other Massholes- will not change our way of life because of this nutter.

I'm done being sad. I'm done being scared. This asshole set off a bomb near the Boston Public Library. Now I'm farking furious.


You sir, you are awesome.
 
2013-04-16 01:08:15 PM  

Epoch_Zero: Gyrfalcon: skullkrusher: can we stop pretending that in order to maintain a free society where rights are (largely) respected, this is not going to be the price to pay from time to time regardless of who is in office?

I've said that since Oklahoma City, but I'm in the minority on that sentiment.

There's no reason we can't live in a free society where we are also assured against being blown to smithereens.


"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance."  ~ can't remember who said it
 
2013-04-16 01:09:05 PM  

namatad: Bush "kept us safe for 8 years,"

meh
sounds like a troll
people dont really think this do they?
do they?

are they still allowed to vote? own scissors??


Yes, they do. There are quite a few people out there with a great mixture of insanity and stupidity.
 
2013-04-16 01:10:02 PM  

Epoch_Zero: There's no reason we can't live in a free society where we are also assured against being blown to smithereens.


There is no society in which you can be "assured against being blown to smithereens".
 
2013-04-16 01:10:43 PM  

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: the_rev: what_now: This asshole set off a bomb near the Boston Public Library. Now I'm farking furious.

Not being smartass here... but... it was the bomb's proximity to a library that you find upsetting?

Have you ever seen the Boston Public Library? It's a beautiful place, a giant piece of art and a civic treasure. I don't live in Boston, but I'd be shocked if that place wasn't sacred to Bostonians.


I've been wanting to go to Boston for a while, me being a Red Sox fan as far as I can remember, but also recently as I became an architect, and one interested in Renovation and Architectural Restoration.
 
2013-04-16 01:12:35 PM  
I blame FDR. Clearly he wanted the Boston Marathon Bombings to happen to get us into a war with ... someone. His deliberate inaction is to blame.
 
2013-04-16 01:12:52 PM  

skullkrusher: Who the fark is Patrick Dullard?

 
2013-04-16 01:13:46 PM  

Epoch_Zero: Gyrfalcon: skullkrusher: can we stop pretending that in order to maintain a free society where rights are (largely) respected, this is not going to be the price to pay from time to time regardless of who is in office?

I've said that since Oklahoma City, but I'm in the minority on that sentiment.

There's no reason we can't live in a free society where we are also assured against being blown to smithereens.


The reason is the necessary steps that must be taken in order to reduce the chances for this to happen down to 0 would be amazingly oppressive.  You'd have to pretty much ban sale of any material that can be used to make an explosive device.  Things like gasoline and matches.  You'd have to build walls at the borders with armed guards to ensure none make it in.  You'd have to inspect all cargo coming into the country, in cars, in boats, in trucks and so on.  That'd be on the bomb building end but even then it's gonna be tough to be 100% sure since terrorists might steal gasoline from places that we still allow to use it.

Timothy McVeigh drove a truck up to a building and blew it up.  Not sure yet on what laws/regulations we'll need to prevent that from happening.  It'll be rough though, for sure.
 
2013-04-16 01:15:04 PM  

dericwater: dericwater: rufus-t-firefly: If you average the deaths due to the 9/11 attacks (2,977)out over his entire presidency, you'll see how safe we were.

He only had 1.02 deaths per day. That's pretty good.

Is that over the course of the 8 years he was in office or the 5.5 years of him working in office and not on vacation clearing brush on his ranch?

Serious question here: now that GW Bush is "retired" and is learning how to paint. Does he ever go somewhere to clear brush? Does he still have that ranch and does he ever go there and clear any of the brush?


No.  The ranch was never anything more than a prop to boost his "real 'merkin" image for the rubes.  Obama had barely crossed the threshold of the White House before Bush dumped that place.  He bought a $2 million house in one of the fanciest neighborhoods in Dallas.  Anyone from Texas knows he was full of shiat from the beginning.  Nobody clears brush in Texas in August unless you're a farking moron.
 
2013-04-16 01:16:27 PM  
http://www.fark.com/comments/7702304/83644392#c83644392" target="_blank" data-cke-saved-href="http://www.fark.com/comments/7702304/83644392#c8 3644392">sheep snorter: America was pretty safe until just after Bush the lesser gained the throne of the President.

Would the Saudis of destroyed the two towers if a Democratic had been President?

Would the world be safer if the CIA had not been created to fark it up?

If Christianity had not murdered millions of Middle Eastern people in the search for Jebus, would they not be so pissed off at Christians?

/Questions that no one is willing to ask in the mainline news.
//Time to have a clear talk on how the rightwing is getting more dangerous because of Foxnews and the Limbaughs of the U.S.


I think the impetus for Bin Laden's whole movement has been discussed at least in the secondary media.

TLDR, We supported Iraq, Saddam wanted to invade Kuwait to get his money back, we gave him the go ahead then changed our minds, we placed a ton of troops in Saudi Arabia which the tards over there consider sacrilege, OBL decided that the Saudi government was not really muslim so wanted to restore the Caliphate in Afghanistan and hooked up with our old buddies the Taliban and Mujahadeen to get us out of the mid east.

We can say that the GW admin underestimated the threat or even bungled it, but we can't lay 9/11 at his feet. That was due to a mixture of aggressive/interventionist foreign policy. a cold war legacy, and a large group of fanatics.
 
2013-04-16 01:16:40 PM  
From a redlit thread last night, a list of bombings (just bombings, not planes, not guns, just bombs) from the first WTC to this year:

1993 - WTC attack

1994 - Unabomber

1995 - OKC

1996 - Olympic bombing

1998 - Abortion clinic bombing

2000 - Temple Beth El bombing

2002- 18 pipe bombs in mailboxes

2008 - Times square recruiting office

2008 - San Diego courthouse bombing

2008 - UC Santa Cruz firebombs were thrown at two researchers

2011 - MLK day parade (failed)
 
2013-04-16 01:17:16 PM  

CygnusDarius: You sir, you are awesome.


what_now is one of the most respected vagina-americans on fark.

MinkeyMan: Epoch_Zero: There's no reason we can't live in a free society where we are also assured against being blown to smithereens.

There is no society in which you can be "assured against being blown to smithereens".


Well, a society where it is unthinkably rare. Mister technical.

Pants full of macaroni!!: "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance."  ~ can't remember who said it


"We live in colonial times and are huge idealogues" - some old guy who wrote some deep shiat

skullkrusher: Epoch_Zero: Gyrfalcon: skullkrusher: can we stop pretending that in order to maintain a free society where rights are (largely) respected, this is not going to be the price to pay from time to time regardless of who is in office?

I've said that since Oklahoma City, but I'm in the minority on that sentiment.

There's no reason we can't live in a free society where we are also assured against being blown to smithereens.

yes there is


Nope. No excuse for it.
 
2013-04-16 01:18:41 PM  

Epoch_Zero: CygnusDarius: You sir, you are awesome.

what_now is one of the most respected vagina-americans on fark.

MinkeyMan: Epoch_Zero: There's no reason we can't live in a free society where we are also assured against being blown to smithereens.

There is no society in which you can be "assured against being blown to smithereens".

Well, a society where it is unthinkably rare. Mister technical.

Pants full of macaroni!!: "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance."  ~ can't remember who said it

"We live in colonial times and are huge idealogues" - some old guy who wrote some deep shiat

skullkrusher: Epoch_Zero: Gyrfalcon: skullkrusher: can we stop pretending that in order to maintain a free society where rights are (largely) respected, this is not going to be the price to pay from time to time regardless of who is in office?

I've said that since Oklahoma City, but I'm in the minority on that sentiment.

There's no reason we can't live in a free society where we are also assured against being blown to smithereens.

yes there is

Nope. No excuse for it.


stop trolling dude
 
2013-04-16 01:19:11 PM  
This surely sucks, but 3 people died, and their calling it the Boston massacre, how many innocent people have Obamas drones killed this week?
quick..make assault bombs illegal, that's what will make us safe
 
2013-04-16 01:19:36 PM  

pdee: Patrick Dollard @PatDollardGEORGE BUSH KEPT US SAFE FOR 8 YEARS AND ONCE AGAINBARACKOBAMA FAILS AS TERRORISTS BOMB BOSTON MARATHON

Well his name is Dullard.


You don't know the half of it.

Every muslem foreign national should be sent home.
Retweeted by Patrick Dollard

@BarackObama and the DHS have spent their entire time hunting for Right Wing Domestic terrorists & of course Muslims blow up Boston Marathon

@BarackObama is basically the co-bomber in yesterday's #BostonMarathon attack because of his weak anti-Islamic terror policies.

The U.S. has many things in common with the Roman Empire, and the bloody persecution of Christians is about to become one of them.
 
2013-04-16 01:20:50 PM  

patthedog: This surely sucks, but 3 people died, and their calling it the Boston massacre, how many innocent people have Obamas drones killed this week?
quick..make assault bombs illegal, that's what will make us safe


*hair ruffle*

now run along
 
2013-04-16 01:20:56 PM  

Epoch_Zero: CygnusDarius: You sir, you are awesome.

what_now is one of the most respected vagina-americans on fark.

MinkeyMan: Epoch_Zero: There's no reason we can't live in a free society where we are also assured against being blown to smithereens.

There is no society in which you can be "assured against being blown to smithereens".

Well, a society where it is unthinkably rare. Mister technical.

Pants full of macaroni!!: "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance."  ~ can't remember who said it

"We live in colonial times and are huge idealogues" - some old guy who wrote some deep shiat

skullkrusher: Epoch_Zero: Gyrfalcon: skullkrusher: can we stop pretending that in order to maintain a free society where rights are (largely) respected, this is not going to be the price to pay from time to time regardless of who is in office?

I've said that since Oklahoma City, but I'm in the minority on that sentiment.

There's no reason we can't live in a free society where we are also assured against being blown to smithereens.

yes there is

Nope. No excuse for it.


Please describe, specifically, how bombings may be infallibly averted without implementation of authoritarian policies.
 
2013-04-16 01:21:22 PM  

Epoch_Zero: CygnusDarius: You sir, you are awesome.

what_now is one of the most respected vagina-americans on fark.

MinkeyMan: Epoch_Zero: There's no reason we can't live in a free society where we are also assured against being blown to smithereens.

There is no society in which you can be "assured against being blown to smithereens".

Well, a society where it is unthinkably rare. Mister technical.

Pants full of macaroni!!: "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance."  ~ can't remember who said it

"We live in colonial times and are huge idealogues" - some old guy who wrote some deep shiat

skullkrusher: Epoch_Zero: Gyrfalcon: skullkrusher: can we stop pretending that in order to maintain a free society where rights are (largely) respected, this is not going to be the price to pay from time to time regardless of who is in office?

I've said that since Oklahoma City, but I'm in the minority on that sentiment.

There's no reason we can't live in a free society where we are also assured against being blown to smithereens.

yes there is

Nope. No excuse for it.


Alrighty then. Why do you give us a quick run down on how the utopia of yours could happen?
 
2013-04-16 01:21:28 PM  
what_now, I change my comment from sir to ma'am, haven't checked the profile until now.
 
2013-04-16 01:21:51 PM  

patthedog: This surely sucks, but 3 people died, and their calling it the Boston massacre, how many innocent people have Obamas drones killed this week?
quick..make assault bombs illegal, that's what will make us safe


Are you so sure they were innocent? How do you define that anyway?

Innocents die in war, but I'd much rather their innocents die than ours.
 
2013-04-16 01:22:02 PM  

dgunthert: dericwater: dericwater: rufus-t-firefly: If you average the deaths due to the 9/11 attacks (2,977)out over his entire presidency, you'll see how safe we were.

He only had 1.02 deaths per day. That's pretty good.

Is that over the course of the 8 years he was in office or the 5.5 years of him working in office and not on vacation clearing brush on his ranch?

Serious question here: now that GW Bush is "retired" and is learning how to paint. Does he ever go somewhere to clear brush? Does he still have that ranch and does he ever go there and clear any of the brush?

No.  The ranch was never anything more than a prop to boost his "real 'merkin" image for the rubes.  Obama had barely crossed the threshold of the White House before Bush dumped that place.  He bought a $2 million house in one of the fanciest neighborhoods in Dallas.  Anyone from Texas knows he was full of shiat from the beginning.  Nobody clears brush in Texas in August unless you're a farking moron.


And it wasn't even a ranch - he didn't have any cattle.

It was a pig farm before he bought it for his presidential run. Reagan had a ranch, so he needed one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prairie_Chapel_Ranch
 
2013-04-16 01:22:28 PM  

Cyberluddite: This is probably the best, most readable, and most accurate summary of the whole situation that I've seen.  Nice job.  Please bring it to the TF political threads for a free month, and don't be a lurker!


Many thanks, Cyberluddite.  Much appreciated!
 
2013-04-16 01:23:10 PM  
I just want to point out that the comments on fark, even the derpiest are LIGHT YEARS ahead of the comments on boston.com.

In other news, there is a blood donation van outside my office. I thought it was because of yesterday, but it turns out its a coincidence- today is just its day to hang out with us.
 
2013-04-16 01:23:40 PM  

skullkrusher: stop trolling dude


If I was trolling, you'd know it. I don't troll very well. I go way overboard to the point where it's obvious.
 
2013-04-16 01:23:51 PM  

nocturnal001: patthedog: This surely sucks, but 3 people died, and their calling it the Boston massacre, how many innocent people have Obamas drones killed this week?
quick..make assault bombs illegal, that's what will make us safe

Are you so sure they were innocent? How do you define that anyway?

Innocents die in war, but I'd much rather their innocents die than ours.


and if ALL their innocents die, well then, war over
 
2013-04-16 01:24:18 PM  
well that was just yesterday, a entire year by American memory standards.

today the big story is Conservative Teajadist victimization & the attack on the peaceful patriotic right by meanie Leftist goons with t.v. shows.
 
2013-04-16 01:24:20 PM  

Epoch_Zero: what_now is one of the most respected vagina-americans on fark.


...not sure if compliment....?
 
2013-04-16 01:24:32 PM  

Epoch_Zero: skullkrusher: stop trolling dude

If I was trolling, you'd know it. I don't troll very well. I go way overboard to the point where it's obvious.


you're going overboard in suggesting we can live with guarantees of safety from bombing while being a free society
 
2013-04-16 01:25:38 PM  

Isitoveryet: well that was just yesterday, a entire year by American memory standards.

today the big story is Conservative Teajadist victimization & the attack on the peaceful patriotic right by meanie Leftist goons with t.v. shows.


where?
 
2013-04-16 01:25:50 PM  

what_now: Epoch_Zero: what_now is one of the most respected vagina-americans on fark.

...not sure if compliment....?


I just heard the roar of a thousand Farkies being updated.
 
2013-04-16 01:27:33 PM  

skullkrusher: nocturnal001: patthedog: This surely sucks, but 3 people died, and their calling it the Boston massacre, how many innocent people have Obamas drones killed this week?
quick..make assault bombs illegal, that's what will make us safe

Are you so sure they were innocent? How do you define that anyway?

Innocents die in war, but I'd much rather their innocents die than ours.

and if ALL their innocents die, well then, war over


The math is hard for sure. Kill enough of the bad ones, without creating too many new enemies.

I don't envy anyone who has to make these choices. It's not like we can just walk into Pakistan and arrest these guys.
 
2013-04-16 01:28:08 PM  

nocturnal001: skullkrusher: nocturnal001: patthedog: This surely sucks, but 3 people died, and their calling it the Boston massacre, how many innocent people have Obamas drones killed this week?
quick..make assault bombs illegal, that's what will make us safe

Are you so sure they were innocent? How do you define that anyway?

Innocents die in war, but I'd much rather their innocents die than ours.

and if ALL their innocents die, well then, war over

The math is hard for sure. Kill enough of the bad ones, without creating too many new enemies.

I don't envy anyone who has to make these choices. It's not like we can just walk into Pakistan and arrest these guys.


I was just foolin on ya
 
2013-04-16 01:29:29 PM  

what_now: I just want to point out that the comments on fark, even the derpiest are LIGHT YEARS ahead of the comments on boston.com.

In other news, there is a blood donation van outside my office. I thought it was because of yesterday, but it turns out its a coincidence- today is just its day to hang out with us.


I'm sorry, but is that really wise?  Yesterday was my first Patriots' Day since moving here, and I know how drunk I was yesterday, along with everyone around me.  I don't think I have donation-worthy blood right now - does any Bostonian?
 
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