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(Deadline)   Movie theater chains refusing to sell presale tickets to Iron Man 3: Iron Harder due to an ongoing dispute with Disney   (deadline.com) divider line 33
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2013-04-16 11:39:28 AM
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2013-04-16 12:07:20 PM
That's okay, I'll wait until Netflix has it.
 
2013-04-16 01:27:50 PM
There's a discount theater near my house.  They don't do preorders.  There's no 3D or stadium seating.  Tickets are $3 cheaper and popcorn and drinks are half the price of anywhere else and I shall be their customer as long as they are in business.  And judging from the crowds on a recent weekend, they'll be in business for a long time.
 
2013-04-16 01:47:45 PM

fustanella: That's okay, I'll wait until Netflix has it.


This, unfortunately. I can't stand going to the theaters any more. Expensive tickets, expensive "food", noisy assholes with smartphones and guns, advertising before and after the movie itself - it's just not worth it.
 
2013-04-16 02:32:38 PM
Well done on the movie title subby.

FormlessOne: fustanella: That's okay, I'll wait until Netflix has it.

This, unfortunately. I can't stand going to the theaters any more. Expensive tickets, expensive "food", noisy assholes with smartphones and guns, advertising before and after the movie itself - it's just not worth it.


I can deal with the rest, but the noisy assholes kill it for me.
 
2013-04-16 02:36:13 PM

FormlessOne: fustanella: That's okay, I'll wait until Netflix has it.

This, unfortunately. I can't stand going to the theaters any more. Expensive tickets, expensive "food", noisy assholes with smartphones and guns, advertising before and after the movie itself - it's just not worth it.


If the characters get guns then  I get a gun. That's the rule.
 
2013-04-16 02:43:23 PM
Shouldn't the third in the set be Iron Man 3: Iron Hard with a Vengeance?

Although I would submit Iron Man 3: Ironmember for consideration.
 
2013-04-16 02:43:37 PM

nocturnal001: I can deal with the rest, but the noisy assholes kill it for me.


When do you go to theaters?  Weekend nights?

Sunday matinees are where it's at.  Just you and the old folks.
 
2013-04-16 02:53:31 PM

FormlessOne: This, unfortunately. I can't stand going to the theaters any more. Expensive tickets, expensive "food", noisy assholes with smartphones and guns, advertising before and after the movie itself - it's just not worth it.


I never really understood the complaint about movie tickets being expensive. Sure they are more expensive than watching a movie at home, but doing just about anything at home is cheaper than doing it out in public. I mean I can drink beer at home for much cheaper than going to a bar.

To me going to the movies is an awesome deal when it comes to going out in public for entertainment. I mean a movie ticket is what $10. For that ten bucks you get 2-3 hours of entertainment. Where else can you get that much entertainer for 10 bucks? You can't go out for anything close to a decent meal for 10 bucks, it will only get you 1 or maybe 2 drinks at a bar. 10 bucks will last maybe 10 minutes at a casino and at least where I live there aren't any professional sports you can see for $10. I don't even think you can see a minor hockey game in my town for $10.

So why do movies get singled out as being expensive? To me they are relatively cheap.
 
2013-04-16 02:57:36 PM

nocturnal001: Well done on the movie title subby.

FormlessOne: fustanella: That's okay, I'll wait until Netflix has it.

This, unfortunately. I can't stand going to the theaters any more. Expensive tickets, expensive "food", noisy assholes with smartphones and guns, advertising before and after the movie itself - it's just not worth it.

I can deal with the rest, but the noisy assholes kill it for me.


I used to think noisy assholes did it for me, too. Then I started going to revival theater showings of classic movies, and I realized that I like it when people laugh, cheer, and otherwise engage in a movie. What I hate are the people trying to carry on private conversations or who talk, play games, or text on their phones.
 
2013-04-16 03:08:23 PM

tricycleracer: nocturnal001: I can deal with the rest, but the noisy assholes kill it for me.

When do you go to theaters?  Weekend nights?

Sunday matinees are where it's at.  Just you and the old folks.


Before we had the baby matinees where awesome. Now, ironically enough our sitter (mother in law) can only do weekend nights.
 
2013-04-16 03:13:33 PM
Does Gwenyth Paltrow get punched in the face?
 
2013-04-16 03:17:22 PM
Why would you buy movie tickets weeks in advance?
 
2013-04-16 03:30:30 PM

Fano: Why would you buy movie tickets weeks in advance?


Because the prime opening screenings might sell out.
 
2013-04-16 03:50:23 PM
The fee studios charge to theaters has been an ongoing problem for decades.  Last I heard (and a correction is welcome if I am wrong) was a top line big movie costs the theater 90% of the box office to the studio for the first few weeks of the release.

The attitude of the studios can be summed up with this:  "No one is allowed to make money off the movie except for the studio.  No exceptions."  This, of course, conflicts with how movies NEVER make any money so anyone who signs up for a percentage of the profits is completely farked.
 
2013-04-16 04:46:06 PM

Fano: Why would you buy movie tickets weeks in advance?


One time I bought movie tickets a week in advance. I hate to admit it, but it was for The Matrix 2. Due to some worldwide release, it wasn't a midnight opening and in my time zone it started at 10pm. Being at college at the time, the college town movie theater filled up 6 theaters with advanced ticket sales. Since they only had enough staff to start two projectors at a time, the first (lets say 200) customers got to start watching at 10pm, the second (201st-400th) set of customers got to start at 10:30, and the people who waited until Thursday morning to buy a couple of tickets (numbers 401-600) got to start their movie at 9:30?!?
 
2013-04-16 04:54:37 PM

paswa17: Fano: Why would you buy movie tickets weeks in advance?

One time I bought movie tickets a week in advance. I hate to admit it, but it was for The Matrix 2. Due to some worldwide release, it wasn't a midnight opening and in my time zone it started at 10pm. Being at college at the time, the college town movie theater filled up 6 theaters with advanced ticket sales. Since they only had enough staff to start two projectors at a time, the first (lets say 200) customers got to start watching at 10pm, the second (201st-400th) set of customers got to start at 10:30, and the people who waited until Thursday morning to buy a couple of tickets (numbers 401-600) got to start their movie at 9:30?!?


Joke was on them, everyone else had a slight chance to bail out.
 
2013-04-16 04:55:07 PM

OgreMagi: The fee studios charge to theaters has been an ongoing problem for decades.  Last I heard (and a correction is welcome if I am wrong) was a top line big movie costs the theater 90% of the box office to the studio for the first few weeks of the release.

The attitude of the studios can be summed up with this:  "No one is allowed to make money off the movie except for the studio.  No exceptions."  This, of course, conflicts with how movies NEVER make any money so anyone who signs up for a percentage of the profits is completely farked.


Well to be fair theaters have been a thorn in the side of studios who want to go to a digital distribution model
 
2013-04-16 05:03:45 PM
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What the real Iron Man 3: Iron Harder might look like
 
2013-04-16 05:07:08 PM

Fano: Why would you buy movie tickets weeks in advance?


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2013-04-16 05:40:03 PM
I live near an almao drafthouse and just bought my tickets. They serve beer, they have assigned seating so I know where I'm going to sit and they have an agressive no talking/cell phone use policy. Also babies and kids under 6 are not allowed, period and kids under 18 must be with a parrent. The place is awesome.
 
2013-04-16 05:51:04 PM

IdBeCrazyIf: OgreMagi: The fee studios charge to theaters has been an ongoing problem for decades.  Last I heard (and a correction is welcome if I am wrong) was a top line big movie costs the theater 90% of the box office to the studio for the first few weeks of the release.

The attitude of the studios can be summed up with this:  "No one is allowed to make money off the movie except for the studio.  No exceptions."  This, of course, conflicts with how movies NEVER make any money so anyone who signs up for a percentage of the profits is completely farked.

Well to be fair theaters have been a thorn in the side of studios who want to go to a digital distribution model


Seriously? Why would i pay i i can't have a physical copy of the film?
 
2013-04-16 05:56:34 PM

Bruised Martini: I live near an almao drafthouse and just bought my tickets. They serve beer, they have assigned seating so I know where I'm going to sit and they have an agressive no talking/cell phone use policy. Also babies and kids under 6 are not allowed, period and kids under 18 must be with a parrent. The place is awesome.


This, except the locations near me allow kids. They are well behaved for the most part. Only one incident with a kid jumping on his seat going "Where's Batman?? Where's Batman??" during The Avengers. To be fair the mom got him a huge cookie before the movie even started. Not the smartest move in the world.
 
2013-04-16 06:09:55 PM

Masterstuff: Bruised Martini: I live near an almao drafthouse and just bought my tickets. They serve beer, they have assigned seating so I know where I'm going to sit and they have an agressive no talking/cell phone use policy. Also babies and kids under 6 are not allowed, period and kids under 18 must be with a parrent. The place is awesome.

This, except the locations near me allow kids. They are well behaved for the most part. Only one incident with a kid jumping on his seat going "Where's Batman?? Where's Batman??" during The Avengers. To be fair the mom got him a huge cookie before the movie even started. Not the smartest move in the world.


When I saw The Avengers there was an infant somewhere in the audience and it made a little noise every now and then, but we put up with it because most of the movie is pretty loud. But then, during a very quiet and emotional scene, the baby started screaming its head off and the mother did nothing. Until, that is, someone stood up and said "Lady, seriously?" and someone else stood up and said "Take that THING out of here!"

Who brings a freaking infant - not even a toddler - an infant to a movie?
 
2013-04-16 06:17:58 PM
We just took our three-year-old son to his first movie, Wreck-It Ralph. Knowing what three year olds are like, we waited until my husband and I had both seen the movie, and it was about to leave the discount theatre, then took him for an afternoon showing on half-price day. He enjoyed it a lot,, though of course at this age he wasn't particularly quiet. Doesn't really matter when you've got the theatre to yourself, though! I figure if you want to take a small child to the movies, you try to minimize the disturbance till they're old enough to know better.

/will probably wait till Iron Harder comes to the discount theatre to see it
//is already planning to prebuy tickets for Into Darkness and Catching Fire
///no popcorn, though
 
2013-04-16 06:23:50 PM

paswa17: Shouldn't the third in the set be Iron Man 3: Iron Hard with a Vengeance?

Although I would submit Iron Man 3: Ironmember for consideration.


Came here to snark say this...

Also would have accepted Iron Man 33⅓
 
2013-04-16 06:37:53 PM

mechgreg: So why do movies get singled out as being expensive? To me they are relatively cheap.


I think it's because people are not comparing it to other entertainment but instead to the price of renting it from Redbox for $1.50, or, heck, you can own the Blu Ray for the price of two tickets if you wait a few months. And unless you have kids or want to see it in 3D, a movie night out isn't that much different than a movie night at home if you have a big screen and surround sound. That is why 3D is being pushed so hard by studios even though it's almost entirely garbage post-production.
 
2013-04-16 07:07:48 PM

mechgreg: I never really understood the complaint about movie tickets being expensive. Sure they are more expensive than watching a movie at home, but doing just about anything at home is cheaper than doing it out in public. I mean I can drink beer at home for much cheaper than going to a bar.


I'd say that a fair comparison for a movie would be an inexpensive sit-down meal, which you can still get for about the same price. A movie = a decent cheeseburger and a side with a drink sounds about right.

In any case, I largely agree. In fact, I use movie value as my general baseline for other activities (such as video games).  But it's really not the cost that's been keeping me at home so much as the relative convenience. I like being able to pause the film to go to the bathroom. I like being able to start the show on my schedule. I like not having to worry about some jerk who doesn't realize that their texting is a freaking klieglight in a darkened theater.

Having control over the experience is a lot more valuable to me than having a big screen and a theatrical sound system so, more and more, I'm staying home. When I do go out, it's specifically for those films that best benefit from a big screen but, even there, I'm starting to find myself leaning towards the convenience of home.
 
2013-04-16 07:42:22 PM
I kind of lost interest in the movies when my ears started bleeding during the THX/Texas Instruments/whoever's sound check at the start.  It seems like a lot of theaters are turning the knob up to 12 just to say "Hey look we have louder speakers than you do at home, please come back."

/meanwhile their projector is set to the "dim and everything looks like ass" setting.
//bulbs are expensive yo
 
2013-04-16 08:19:28 PM

Masterstuff: Bruised Martini: I live near an almao drafthouse and just bought my tickets. They serve beer, they have assigned seating so I know where I'm going to sit and they have an agressive no talking/cell phone use policy. Also babies and kids under 6 are not allowed, period and kids under 18 must be with a parrent. The place is awesome.

This, except the locations near me allow kids. They are well behaved for the most part. Only one incident with a kid jumping on his seat going "Where's Batman?? Where's Batman??" during The Avengers. To be fair the mom got him a huge cookie before the movie even started. Not the smartest move in the world.


That's great. Nothing nearly as entertaining happened at my showing off the Avengers.

I buy movie tickets in advance, but it's for a 21+ only theater with big, cushy assigned seating.
 
2013-04-17 03:14:13 AM
I work 3rd shift, so I catch my few theatrical films at 9 am.  I had no trouble walking in and getting tickets to the Avengers on opening day, so I doubt I'd have trouble with Iron Man 3.
 
2013-04-17 07:45:54 AM
So they expect us to believe that some of the major chains won't be showing Iron Man 3 because of a pissing match with Disney? Funny.
 
2013-04-17 05:43:33 PM

BizarreMan: So they expect us to believe that some of the major chains won't be showing Iron Man 3 because of a pissing match with Disney? Funny.


Yes. Because Disney and other major studios have been demanding a larger chunk of the pie each year.  Why do you think popcorn costs so much?  The theaters do not make any money from ticket sells on the top movies in the first few weeks of release since the studios.

Here's the standard breakdown:

Week 1:  10% theater, 90% studio
Week 2:  15% theater, 85% studio
Week 3:  20% theater, 80% studio

After that, the big rush is gone and the big movie goes from 3 theaters plus the imax to one theater for a few weeks at best and never a full house.

The problem is Disney is using this major film, one of the summer's most anticipated, as leverage to renegotiate the studio's future terms.  That sounds to me like Disney wants more than 90% on this and all future films and the theaters are finally telling them fark no.  I wouldn't be surprised if Disney is demanding a cut of the concessions.
 
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