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2013-04-16 08:21:29 AM
So it's just a regulation that requires the use of a condom during the production of porn? Doesn't sound too bad. For quite a while after HIV was discovered, the gay porn industry was almost nothing but videos of condom usage. These days though, seems there's a trend towards going bare.
 
2013-04-16 08:31:26 AM
Sounds like they didn't think their coonting plan all the way through.
 
2013-04-16 08:37:57 AM

Cythraul: So it's just a regulation that requires the use of a condom during the production of porn? Doesn't sound too bad. For quite a while after HIV was discovered, the gay porn industry was almost nothing but videos of condom usage. These days though, seems there's a trend towards going bare.


vincentknight.files.wordpress.com


I checked your profile

/nttawwt
 
2013-04-16 08:41:45 AM

bulok: Cythraul: So it's just a regulation that requires the use of a condom during the production of porn? Doesn't sound too bad. For quite a while after HIV was discovered, the gay porn industry was almost nothing but videos of condom usage. These days though, seems there's a trend towards going bare.

[vincentknight.files.wordpress.com image 400x266]


I checked your profile

/nttawwt


I think that meme is pretty much dead at this point. You might want to move on. Besides, it's pretty farking obvious that I'm a homo if you ever read any comments I make on Fark. It's not like I'm hiding it.
 
2013-04-16 08:45:31 AM

Cythraul: I think that meme is pretty much dead at this point. You might want to move on. Besides, it's pretty farking obvious that I'm a homo if you ever read any comments I make on Fark. It's not like I'm hiding it.


Wait, wait, wait, you're gay?

This changes EVERYTHING.
 
2013-04-16 08:51:54 AM
For some reason I've got that crappy "Don't Fence Me In" song stuck in my head.
 
2013-04-16 08:52:27 AM
It could be possible that the intent of its authors was to get pornography production out of the county.

However, due to the lack of hyperexcessive redtape, I dont think that is very likely
 
2013-04-16 08:55:21 AM

Cythraul: So it's just a regulation that requires the use of a condom during the production of porn? Doesn't sound too bad. For quite a while after HIV was discovered, the gay porn industry was almost nothing but videos of condom usage. These days though, seems there's a trend towards going bare.


Here's a pretty good post by Stoya about what's wrong with Measure B (link is SFW, but Stoya is a porn actress, so there's some NSFW stuff on the main blog):

Why Measure B puts adult performers at higher risk

tl;dr version: Porn performers already have a much lower rate of STIs than the general population (thus making the law pointless), and the use of condoms for hours at a time can cause tearing thus increasing infection risk.
 
2013-04-16 08:55:26 AM
They act like there's never been porn without condoms but like Cythraul said, at one time it was quite common. Wouldn't viewers just get used to it? I just don't see horny types swearing off porn forever because of a condom.
 
2013-04-16 08:58:56 AM

Teufelaffe: Cythraul: So it's just a regulation that requires the use of a condom during the production of porn? Doesn't sound too bad. For quite a while after HIV was discovered, the gay porn industry was almost nothing but videos of condom usage. These days though, seems there's a trend towards going bare.

Here's a pretty good post by Stoya about what's wrong with Measure B (link is SFW, but Stoya is a porn actress, so there's some NSFW stuff on the main blog):

Why Measure B puts adult performers at higher risk

tl;dr version: Porn performers already have a much lower rate of STIs than the general population (thus making the law pointless), and the use of condoms for hours at a time can cause tearing thus increasing infection risk.


That's interesting. I was not aware of that. I guess the only positive thing about enforced condom requirements for porn production would be the theory that it would encourage viewers to practice safe sex. But even if that were true, hardly seems worth it to put porn actors at risk.

Assuming all that information is true.
 
2013-04-16 08:59:35 AM

Cythraul: So it's just a regulation that requires the use of a condom during the production of porn? Doesn't sound too bad. For quite a while after HIV was discovered, the gay porn industry was almost nothing but videos of condom usage. These days though, seems there's a trend towards going bare.


It seems to be evenly split, in my experience, with gay bareback porn still considered "edgy".

But now that anyone with a digital camera and a computer can make porn, the gay porn "industry", such as it is, has spread all over the country.  I don't see why straight porn would be any different.
 
2013-04-16 09:00:08 AM
I don't understand the whole film permitting process.  Isn't this a pretty hairy (heh heh heh) free speech issue?  Do I need a permit to write a book?  Does this apply to all films, or just porn - and who makes the decision about where to draw that line?

If it's about on-location shooting that disrupts neighbors and affects traffic, sure.  But 99% of this is done in warehouse-sized studios or private homes.  Why does the government care?
 
2013-04-16 09:01:15 AM
So they just stopped getting permits
 
2013-04-16 09:13:26 AM

FrancoFile: I don't understand the whole film permitting process.  Isn't this a pretty hairy (heh heh heh) free speech issue?  Do I need a permit to write a book?  Does this apply to all films, or just porn - and who makes the decision about where to draw that line?

If it's about on-location shooting that disrupts neighbors and affects traffic, sure.  But 99% of this is done in warehouse-sized studios or private homes.  Why does the government care?


I'm $ure there i$ a very $ound rea$on for the the government'$ involvement.
 
2013-04-16 09:17:02 AM

FrancoFile: I don't understand the whole film permitting process.  Isn't this a pretty hairy (heh heh heh) free speech issue?  Do I need a permit to write a book?  Does this apply to all films, or just porn - and who makes the decision about where to draw that line?

If it's about on-location shooting that disrupts neighbors and affects traffic, sure.  But 99% of this is done in warehouse-sized studios or private homes.  Why does the government care?


Permits do apply to all films, being that the film industry is a commercial business and are held to specific rules to the genre they are filming for.  i.e. special permits are needed for animals and children being used on the project.  I am sure the amateur porn don't require such permits unless they start making enough money to legally be considered pro.  If you recall Springer had to get an entertainers license to keep his 'guest' from getting arrested for the assaults filmed on his show.  As usual, it is all about the money under the guise of 'for safety'.

/I gave up watching porn years ago, however condoms didn't make a difference to me back then
//just use them and move on
 
2013-04-16 09:19:44 AM

Cythraul: That's interesting. I was not aware of that. I guess the only positive thing about enforced condom requirements for porn production would be the theory that it would encourage viewers to practice safe sex. But even if that were true, hardly seems worth it to put porn actors at risk.

Assuming all that information is true.


On average for every thirty minutes of footage you see, is the resulting set of 4 hours of actual work and filiming

Porn people work hard yo
 
2013-04-16 09:19:57 AM

Peter von Nostrand: So they just stopped getting permits


And/or started shooting scenes in places that don't try to force unneeded regulation into THEIR industry.
 
2013-04-16 09:21:38 AM

airsupport: Cythraul: I think that meme is pretty much dead at this point. You might want to move on. Besides, it's pretty farking obvious that I'm a homo if you ever read any comments I make on Fark. It's not like I'm hiding it.

Wait, wait, wait, you're gay?

This changes EVERYTHING.


I'd be more concerned about him living in North Carolina.
 
2013-04-16 09:22:34 AM

Teufelaffe: Cythraul: So it's just a regulation that requires the use of a condom during the production of porn? Doesn't sound too bad. For quite a while after HIV was discovered, the gay porn industry was almost nothing but videos of condom usage. These days though, seems there's a trend towards going bare.

Here's a pretty good post by Stoya about what's wrong with Measure B (link is SFW, but Stoya is a porn actress, so there's some NSFW stuff on the main blog):

Why Measure B puts adult performers at higher risk

tl;dr version: Porn performers already have a much lower rate of STIs than the general population (thus making the law pointless), and the use of condoms for hours at a time can cause tearing thus increasing infection risk.


[citation needed]
 
2013-04-16 09:25:22 AM

foo monkey: airsupport: Cythraul: I think that meme is pretty much dead at this point. You might want to move on. Besides, it's pretty farking obvious that I'm a homo if you ever read any comments I make on Fark. It's not like I'm hiding it.

Wait, wait, wait, you're gay?

This changes EVERYTHING.

I'd be more concerned about him living in North Carolina.


Yeah, it's not very conducive for me. But I have limited options for relocation at the moment.
 
2013-04-16 09:28:59 AM

foo monkey: Teufelaffe: Cythraul: So it's just a regulation that requires the use of a condom during the production of porn? Doesn't sound too bad. For quite a while after HIV was discovered, the gay porn industry was almost nothing but videos of condom usage. These days though, seems there's a trend towards going bare.

Here's a pretty good post by Stoya about what's wrong with Measure B (link is SFW, but Stoya is a porn actress, so there's some NSFW stuff on the main blog):

Why Measure B puts adult performers at higher risk

tl;dr version: Porn performers already have a much lower rate of STIs than the general population (thus making the law pointless), and the use of condoms for hours at a time can cause tearing thus increasing infection risk.

[citation needed]


Did you read the article I linked to, or were you just in too much of a hurry to break out with the [citation needed] to do that?
 
2013-04-16 09:35:10 AM
Cythraul:
I guess the only positive thing about enforced condom requirements for porn production would be the theory that it would encourage viewers to practice safe sex.

Your average porn fanatic is probably short on actual sexual partners, condoms or not.  Your average "normal porn viewer" is probably married or in a relationship and uses whatever contraceptive method they use anyway.  Not that normalizing condom use is a bad thing, mind, but I'm not sure porno guys obeying the letter of the law by wearing condoms and then yanking them off to splork in the girl's face/hair/immediately adjacent to her crotch is a very good demonstration of safe sex.
 
2013-04-16 09:39:17 AM
If this law even had the tiniest bit to do with keeping people safe I would probably be ok with it. But it doesn't and it was never meant to. It's puritanical B.S. pushed by the usual group of god botherers to drive porn out of wholesome LA county.
 
2013-04-16 09:42:06 AM

foo monkey: Teufelaffe: Cythraul: So it's just a regulation that requires the use of a condom during the production of porn? Doesn't sound too bad. For quite a while after HIV was discovered, the gay porn industry was almost nothing but videos of condom usage. These days though, seems there's a trend towards going bare.

Here's a pretty good post by Stoya about what's wrong with Measure B (link is SFW, but Stoya is a porn actress, so there's some NSFW stuff on the main blog):

Why Measure B puts adult performers at higher risk

tl;dr version: Porn performers already have a much lower rate of STIs than the general population (thus making the law pointless), and the use of condoms for hours at a time can cause tearing thus increasing infection risk.

[citation needed]


Just because sometimes I am a pedantic ass, the citation is right there.   You quoted it.
 
2013-04-16 09:43:54 AM

sammyk: wholesome LA county.


If you can say this out loud and not laugh, then you are not human
 
2013-04-16 09:44:21 AM

sammyk: If this law even had the tiniest bit to do with keeping people safe I would probably be ok with it. But it doesn't and it was never meant to. It's puritanical B.S. pushed by the usual group of god botherers to drive porn out of wholesome LA county.


Yeah, nowhere is more 'buckle on the Bible Belt' than Los Angeles.
 
2013-04-16 09:44:53 AM

Cythraul: That's interesting. I was not aware of that. I guess the only positive thing about enforced condom requirements for porn production would be the theory that it would encourage viewers to practice safe sex. But even if that were true, hardly seems worth it to put porn actors at risk.


The problem is, the audience wants bareback. Whatever you think of that, that's how it is. That's why they're getting the hell out.
 
2013-04-16 09:46:03 AM

lack of warmth: FrancoFile: I don't understand the whole film permitting process.  Isn't this a pretty hairy (heh heh heh) free speech issue?  Do I need a permit to write a book?  Does this apply to all films, or just porn - and who makes the decision about where to draw that line?

If it's about on-location shooting that disrupts neighbors and affects traffic, sure.  But 99% of this is done in warehouse-sized studios or private homes.  Why does the government care?

Permits do apply to all films, being that the film industry is a commercial business and are held to specific rules to the genre they are filming for.  i.e. special permits are needed for animals and children being used on the project.  I am sure the amateur porn don't require such permits unless they start making enough money to legally be considered pro.  If you recall Springer had to get an entertainers license to keep his 'guest' from getting arrested for the assaults filmed on his show.  As usual, it is all about the money under the guise of 'for safety'.

/I gave up watching porn years ago, however condoms didn't make a difference to me back then
//just use them and move on


'special permits are needed for animals and children being used on the project. I am sure the amateur porn don't require such permits'

*chuckle*
 
2013-04-16 09:46:43 AM

FrancoFile: If it's about on-location shooting that disrupts neighbors and affects traffic, sure.  But 99% of this is done in warehouse-sized studios or private homes.  Why does the government care?


It's a public health issue.
 
2013-04-16 09:53:00 AM

Oliver Twisted: FrancoFile: I don't understand the whole film permitting process.  Isn't this a pretty hairy (heh heh heh) free speech issue?  Do I need a permit to write a book?  Does this apply to all films, or just porn - and who makes the decision about where to draw that line?

If it's about on-location shooting that disrupts neighbors and affects traffic, sure.  But 99% of this is done in warehouse-sized studios or private homes.  Why does the government care?

I'm $ure there i$ a very $ound rea$on for the the government'$ involvement.


If someone is to be farked, you can bet your bottom dollar the government is going to be there.
 
2013-04-16 09:54:45 AM

farkeruk: Cythraul: That's interesting. I was not aware of that. I guess the only positive thing about enforced condom requirements for porn production would be the theory that it would encourage viewers to practice safe sex. But even if that were true, hardly seems worth it to put porn actors at risk.

The problem is, the audience wants bareback. Whatever you think of that, that's how it is. That's why they're getting the hell out.


Getting the hell out means going to the next county and driving back.
 
2013-04-16 10:02:51 AM
They've just moved it elsewhere.

There are at least 2 studios operating in Boulder, CO now. I hear there may be a third, but I don't know that one for sure.
 
2013-04-16 10:10:18 AM

IdBeCrazyIf: sammyk: wholesome LA county.

If you can say this out loud and not laugh, then you are not human


RickN99: sammyk: If this law even had the tiniest bit to do with keeping people safe I would probably be ok with it. But it doesn't and it was never meant to. It's puritanical B.S. pushed by the usual group of god botherers to drive porn out of wholesome LA county.

Yeah, nowhere is more 'buckle on the Bible Belt' than Los Angeles.


San Fernando Valley is whitebread boring as hell suburban america.
 
2013-04-16 10:13:32 AM
Sounds like they took their balls and left.
 
2013-04-16 10:16:16 AM
Hasn't a fair proportion of porn production moved to the Miami area anyway?
 
2013-04-16 10:31:08 AM
All the really good porn seems to be getting made outside of LA anymore. Kink.com is headquartered in San Francisco, for example.
 
2013-04-16 10:36:30 AM
Yeah, because who wants profitable, tax paying businesses in your county.
 
2013-04-16 10:38:42 AM

Cythraul: bulok: Cythraul: So it's just a regulation that requires the use of a condom during the production of porn? Doesn't sound too bad. For quite a while after HIV was discovered, the gay porn industry was almost nothing but videos of condom usage. These days though, seems there's a trend towards going bare.

[vincentknight.files.wordpress.com image 400x266]


I checked your profile

/nttawwt

I think that meme is pretty much dead at this point. You might want to move on. Besides, it's pretty farking obvious that I'm a homo if you ever read any comments I make on Fark. It's not like I'm hiding it.


Let me just say this: You are awesome.  You be who you are and fark what anyone else thinks.

Be you.
 
2013-04-16 10:43:31 AM

Cythraul: So it's just a regulation that requires the use of a condom during the production of porn? Doesn't sound too bad. For quite a while after HIV was discovered, the gay porn industry was almost nothing but videos of condom usage. These days though, seems there's a trend towards going bare.


A trend? Most of the gay porn I've watched has been bareback. When I see a condom I'm like, oh a condom, with my surprised face firmly in place.
 
2013-04-16 11:14:53 AM
Camarillo Brillo
 
2013-04-16 11:20:28 AM

Cythraul: foo monkey: airsupport: Cythraul: I think that meme is pretty much dead at this point. You might want to move on. Besides, it's pretty farking obvious that I'm a homo if you ever read any comments I make on Fark. It's not like I'm hiding it.

Wait, wait, wait, you're gay?

This changes EVERYTHING.

I'd be more concerned about him living in North Carolina.

Yeah, it's not very conducive for me. But I have limited options for relocation at the moment.



A GAY NORTH CAROLINIAN?  IN MY FARK?
 
2013-04-16 11:21:31 AM

airsupport: Cythraul: foo monkey: airsupport: Cythraul: I think that meme is pretty much dead at this point. You might want to move on. Besides, it's pretty farking obvious that I'm a homo if you ever read any comments I make on Fark. It's not like I'm hiding it.

Wait, wait, wait, you're gay?

This changes EVERYTHING.

I'd be more concerned about him living in North Carolina.

Yeah, it's not very conducive for me. But I have limited options for relocation at the moment.


A GAY NORTH CAROLINIAN?  IN MY FARK?


It's more likely than you think.
 
2013-04-16 11:23:14 AM

coco ebert: They act like there's never been porn without condoms but like Cythraul said, at one time it was quite common. Wouldn't viewers just get used to it? I just don't see horny types swearing off porn forever because of a condom.


Watching porn is about fantasy, people don't fantasize about farking with condoms.
 
2013-04-16 11:41:52 AM

unlikely: They've just moved it elsewhere.

There are at least 2 studios operating in Boulder, CO now. I hear there may be a third, but I don't know that one for sure.


There are over 200 registered in the Dallas-Fort Worth alone.
 
2013-04-16 11:54:34 AM
There was a letter in the local paper complaining about the moans and public boobies at a recent shoot here (just north of the line). It was a porn being film in the same town Belinda Carlisle is from. Coincidence?
Boobies are never a coincidence.
 
2013-04-16 12:29:45 PM
The studios can move to San Diego County.  I'd happily welcome some extra money brought to our county to help repave all of the potholes and other glaring issues with our streets and roads.
 
2013-04-16 12:47:56 PM
www.starnostar.com
What an industrial worker may look like.
 
2013-04-16 01:00:44 PM

Cythraul: So it's just a regulation that requires the use of a condom during the production of porn? Doesn't sound too bad. For quite a while after HIV was discovered, the gay porn industry was almost nothing but videos of condom usage. These days though, seems there's a trend towards going bare.


Wonder what the language of the regulation actually is, could you just use it to tie up her hands or something or do you have to use it with penetration.  There's always a loophole.
 
2013-04-16 01:15:08 PM
I wonder how much tax revenue Los Angeles County is losing as a result.
 
2013-04-16 01:48:10 PM

sammyk: IdBeCrazyIf: sammyk: wholesome LA county.

If you can say this out loud and not laugh, then you are not human

RickN99: sammyk: If this law even had the tiniest bit to do with keeping people safe I would probably be ok with it. But it doesn't and it was never meant to. It's puritanical B.S. pushed by the usual group of god botherers to drive porn out of wholesome LA county.

Yeah, nowhere is more 'buckle on the Bible Belt' than Los Angeles.

San Fernando Valley is whitebread boring as hell suburban america.


Quoted for truth. I live in West Hills and grew up in the valley. The NIMBYism here is outrageous.
 
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